Question:
I'd like to re-look at the concept of the Trinity. What in your opinion is the trinity?
?
2013-02-27 18:49:04 UTC
If you choose to touch upon the entity known as Jesus, please feel free....but do me a favour, add some of your own thoughts to the meaning within, around and behind the trinity concept.

Thanks if you answer...
I'm open to ideas.
31 answers:
JORGE N
2013-02-28 19:31:11 UTC
What kind of re-look upon this subject do you intend to make? Have you new ideas and insights and thus perhaps new information as to understanding this? Can we come up with anything other than the already well known arguments? To really understand what the Trinity is I would suggest reading the subject as it is expressed in the Urantia Book. That as to date has the most excellent synthesis of the Trinity. If that is not able to clear it up for you perhaps you should just let it rest and not worry about it.

(108.1) 10:0.1 THE Paradise Trinity of eternal Deities facilitates the Father’s eThescape from personality absolutism. The Trinity perfectly associates the limitless expression of God’s infinite personal will with the absoluteness of Deity. The Eternal Son and the various Sons of divine origin, together with the Conjoint Actor and his universe children, effectively provide for the Father’s liberation from the limitations otherwise inherent in primacy, perfection, changelessness, eternity, universality, absoluteness, and infinity.



Take the language as the best form of expression of this idea from this book and you may be able to utilize it in a continual way from many standpoints. Or refuse and reject the synthesis and go and find your own way to understand this very complicated reality.
Katrina
2013-03-01 10:41:15 UTC
In Christian terms the scriptures themselves do not teach the trinity ideology. However with God and "spirit of God" or Holy spirit" already in place Paul may have set the stage in calling Jesus "divine son". (But we are all divine sons.) However who makes up the Trinity seems to vary. Some will tell you "father, son, and holy spirit" while a few have told me father son and mother Mary. (Catholics perhaps?) In any case I think the second example would be a throw back to the Egyptian Trinity mentioned below. Christianity calls their version of the trinity "the three in one". One God - 3 persons in the one god.



Prior to all of that was the Egyptian trinity from which I believe christian trinity was modeled. The father was Osiris, the son, Horus, and the mother, Isis Meri. The study of mythology in history seems to make it clear that the current Jesus figure is a combination of both the father and son Osiris and Horus.



Egypt is just one example. Older still would be the mythology of Sumer which much of Egyptian mythology seems to stem from. In reality there have been dozens of trinities in mythology over the course of history. And to a degree (but not always) its the same story over and over again with a few minor changes to the names and details.



And then there are the ancient religious mythologies that give one deity three heads. Such as Trisiras and Dattatreya in Hindu traditions. (Again three persons, one god.) It's a very old idea. Many of these myths predate Christianity by many thousands of years. The threads go back so far it's almost impossible to be sure where the concept originated.



Having said that, some believe the idea came from astrological observations of the ancients derived from the 3 most important positions the sun takes on the horizon during a 12 month period. On the Summer solstice and the Winter Solstice, the sun is north and south on the horizon and on the Spring and Fall equinoxes the Sun is in the center of the horizon, and at the same location as one another. Our ancestors loved to study the sky. There are many complex myths and allegories based on this and some believe the christian trinity (indeed the faith itself) grew from those stories as did the many myths in ancient religions.



A side note in the astrological regard is that in Luke 22:10 and Mark 14:13 Jesus himself told his disciples to follow the man with the pitcher of water to the house in Jerusalem which is thought by some to refer to the age of Aquarius and the return to the golden age. Each age fairly consistently has had some version of a Jesus/Horus type story and it is therefore believed by some that a new version of said story will evolve within the next 1000 years or so and therefore a new version of the trinity as well. I wish I could hang around to see if or how that works... :)

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anonymous
2016-10-06 04:48:54 UTC
The "trinity" is basically a handy thank you to neglect on the subject of the indisputable fact that some human beings worship 3 gods yet say that there is largely one. i'm nevertheless attempting to be certain why every physique thinks that monotheism is from now on rational than polytheism. Bob might desire to not comprehend any atheists, or he does not complication asking they why they have faith what they have faith ("The trinity is between the premier motives maximum atheists don't think in god."). I even have information for you, Bob. i'm an atheist because of the fact there isn't any data that any god exists. era. .
Mayflower
2013-03-01 11:58:37 UTC
The mind of St Augustine on God the Holy Trinity is a massive topic. The following is some kind of summary; read it carefully and compare to your other readings.

Book 1 Chapter 6.— That the Son is Very God, of the Same Substance with the Father.

A: Not Only the Father, But the Trinity, is Affirmed to Be Immortal. All Things are Not from the Father Alone, But Also from the Son. That the Holy Spirit is Very God, Equal with the Father and the Son.

1. Those who said that Jesus Christ is not God, or not very God;

2. or not with the Father the One and Only God,

3. or not truly immortal because changeable

4. 1 >3 are proved wrong by the most plain and unanimous voice of John 1:

a. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God.

b. We take it plain that the Word of God to be the only Son of God

c. Whom afterward said: And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us

5. Herein declared, not only that he is God, but also of the same substance with the Father;

a. Because after saying, And the Word was God,

b. It is also said, the same was in the beginning with God: all things were made by Him

c. And without Him, was not anything made: Not simply all things, but only all things that were MADE

d. That is the whole creature.

e. It appears clearly that He Himself was not made, “by whom all things were made.”

f. And if he was not made, then He is not a creature

g. But if He is not a creature, then He is of the same substance with the Father.

h. For all substance that is not God is creature, and all that is not a creature is God

i. If the Son is not of same substance of the Father, then he is a substance that was made

j. And if He is a substance that was made, then all things were not made by Him

k. But all things were made by Him, therefore He is of one and same substance with the Father.

l. And so, He is not only God, but also VERY GOD.

B: All Things are Not from the Father Alone, But Also from the Son.

For of Him, and thru Him, and in Him, all things

a. Of Him, that is of the Father

b. Through Him, thru the Son

c. In Him, in the HS;

d. It is manifest that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit is one God, inasmuch as the words continue in the singular number. :To whom be glory for ever.”
anonymous
2013-02-27 18:51:07 UTC
What is the origin of the Trinity doctrine?

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.

Even though, as Trinitarians acknowledge, neither the word “Trinity” nor a statement of the Trinitarian dogma is found in the Bible, are the concepts that are embodied in that dogma found there?

Does the Bible teach that the “Holy Spirit” is a person?

Some individual texts that refer to the holy spirit (“Holy Ghost,” KJ) might seem to indicate personality. For example, the holy spirit is referred to as a helper (Greek, pa·ra′kle·tos; “Comforter,” KJ; “Advocate,” JB, NE) that ‘teaches,’ ‘bears witness,’ ‘speaks’ and ‘hears.’ (John 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:13) But other texts say that people were “filled” with holy spirit, that some were ‘baptized’ with it or “anointed” with it. (Luke 1:41; Matt. 3:11; Acts 10:38) These latter references to holy spirit definitely do not fit a person. To understand what the Bible as a whole teaches, all these texts must be considered. What is the reasonable conclusion? That the first texts cited here employ a figure of speech personifying God’s holy spirit, his active force, as the Bible also personifies wisdom, sin, death, water, and blood. (See also pages 380, 381, under the heading “Spirit.”)

The Holy Scriptures tell us the personal name of the Father—Jehovah. They inform us that the Son is Jesus Christ. But nowhere in the Scriptures is a personal name applied to the holy spirit.

Acts 7:55, 56 reports that Stephen was given a vision of heaven in which he saw “Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” But he made no mention of seeing the holy spirit. (See also Revelation 7:10; 22:1, 3.)

The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.” (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575) It also reports: “The Apologists [Greek Christian writers of the second century] spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally.”—Vol. XIV, p. 296
The angels have the phone box.
2013-02-27 23:50:36 UTC
Triads were a common form of worship in the ancient world and de rigeur for salvation religions. Christianity adopted the triad, along with the rest of its theology, from those salvation religions and then sledgehammered it into a nominal monotheism.



All of the salvation theologies included a saviour deity who went down into the underworld (usually after a gruesome death/murder) and returned bringing eternal life, salvation from eternal punishment, etc. Most, but not all, included an especially high ranking god like Zeus or Sol Invictus. The remaining figure varied.
.
2013-02-27 18:58:04 UTC
I do not understand the trinity. I neither strongly embrace it nor reject it. It is to me a mystery and I am OK with that. If it turns out to be true or if it turns out to be false it makes no difference to me. In the mean time I usually relate to God as a whole making little distinction between Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I think it is possible that these 3 in 1 distinctions might simply be useful given the nature of God as a multidimensional being and the current limitations of humanity living in the perceptions of a 3 dimensional plus time reality. It could very well be that as a personality God is so multidimensional that His earthly interaction can be multifaceted so as to seem to us to be a trinity.
ROBERT P
2013-02-28 02:50:36 UTC
The Trinity is one God in three divine Persons, the consubstantial Trinity. The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves, for each of them is God, whole and entire.
anonymous
2013-02-27 19:28:04 UTC
The trinity is all the same God. The three parts are just descriptions of what He is doing. God is the all powerful father in heaven. Jesus is God as a human on earth. 1 John 1:2 says "the infinite Life of God himself took shape before us," referring to Jesus. The third part of the trinity, the Holy Spirit, is God living in those who believe in him. It is what joins believers together into the "body of Christ." The spirit is also a connection between believers and god. The Bible says that the spirit intercedes for us in prayer. Romans 8:26 "In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express." The trinity is used to describe God the father, God as a man who died and was raised, and God as he lives in those who believe in him.
?
2013-02-27 20:42:27 UTC
Jesus is the son of the one who is God.



Edit:

To answer your question, I would like to give you my opinion on the doctrine of the Trinity.



Its all about what is actually in the scriptures.



In Hosea 11:9 God said, "I am God, and not man". In Numbers 23:19, it is stated that "God is not a man...nor is he the son of man"



Jesus Christ the man is the mediator between the One God and men according to 1 Timothy 2:5. Jesus is a man that continues always having an unchangeable priesthood because God raised him from the dead according to Hebrews 7:24-28 and Acts 17:31.



Our Lord Jesus said, "My Father is greater than I" in John 14:28, and in John 20:17 Jesus said he was going to ascend to his God and our God.



In Ephesians chapter 1 Paul tells the saints from Ephesus, "Grace be to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.."



Paul also said in 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 that though there are many that are called gods and lords, to us there is but one God, the Father..."



Jesus said in his prayer to his Father in John 17, "...and this is life eternal, that they may know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."



It should be easy to trust our Lord Jesus, the only begotten son of God, who was sent by God, and is a man who heard the truth from God as he said he was in John 8:40.



The Doctrine of the Trinity was a lie from the beginning. It is not surprising though for if "satan can also be transformed into an angel of light" so can a lie seem to be the truth. 2 Corinthians 11:14



Never at anytime does God say in the old testament "We are God", "We are the Lord your God" , "We, three are the one God", "We created it", "We are Yahweh and there is none else".



The singular pronoun "I" in the English language is used 100% of the time for it to be acknowledged that one person is speaking. This is also the case in the scriptures, where God uses the singular personal pronoun over 1000 times in the scriptures concerning claims about himself and just talking in general.



Isaiah 45:18 proves that ELOHIM is one individual and not three individuals in one God. God is one, Trinitarians add to the straightforward claim in the scriptures that "our God is one Yahweh" by adding God is threefold, God is trinity, God is a tri-unity, etc. It never says that, and it never will.



Isaiah 45:18

18 For thus saith the Lord (Yahweh) that created the heavens; God (ha-ELOHIM) himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord (Yahweh); and there is none else.



God said, "I" am Yahweh, and there is none else. I believe him.
the Christian
2013-03-01 14:19:22 UTC
Who is the father, the son, and the holy spirit....? they are one according to scripture.....there are three who testify. Jesus loves you.....
Godsproblemchild
2013-02-27 18:58:26 UTC
Touch upon the entity of Jesus? How can you discuss the trinity without discussing God?

That is after all the point of the trinity, Jesus is the LORD. Almighty God, one with the Father and the Spirit. See, God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself. That was God who was born from the virgin Mary and God who walked among us, It was God who died on that cross and God the creator of everything the Alpha and Omega who rose from the dead. Jesus and God the Father and the Spirit are one.
anonymous
2013-02-27 18:51:52 UTC
The Bible says that Jesus is the son of God. The Holy spirit is a separate active force. And God himself is the Father of Jesus. This is shown when Jesus is performing miracles, and tells him that this is being done by the will of his father, not himself.
anonymous
2013-02-27 19:22:38 UTC
It isn't consistent with the Bible. It was invented in the third and fourth centuries and borrowed from pagan religion to win over converts.
?
2013-02-27 19:05:31 UTC
Hopefully the following Bible-based excerpt can assist you in your studies: “After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him. Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: ‘This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.’” (Matthew 3:16, 17) After seeing and hearing what happened, John had no doubt that Jesus was sent by God. (John 1:32-34) At the moment when God’s spirit, or active force, was poured out upon him that day, Jesus became the Messiah, or Christ, the one appointed to be Leader and King.—Isaiah 55:4.



The Bible teaches that Jesus lived in heaven before he came to earth. Micah prophesied that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem and also said that His origin was “from early times.” (Micah 5:2) On many occasions, Jesus himself said that he lived in heaven before being born as a human. (John 3:13; 6:38, 62; 17:4, 5) As a spirit creature in heaven, Jesus had a special relationship with Jehovah.



Jesus is Jehovah’s most precious Son—and for good reason. He is called “the firstborn of all creation,” for he was God’s first creation.# (Colossians 1:15) There is something else that makes this Son special. He is the “only-begotten Son.” (John 3:16) This means that Jesus is the only one directly created by God. Jesus is also the only one whom God used when He created all other things. (Colossians 1:16) Then, too, Jesus is called “the Word.” (John 1:14) This tells us that he spoke for God, no doubt delivering messages and instructions to the Father’s other sons, both spirit and human.



Is the firstborn Son equal to God, as some believe? That is not what the Bible teaches. As we noted in the preceding paragraph, the Son was created. Obviously, then, he had a beginning, whereas Jehovah God has no beginning or end. (Psalm 90:2) The only-begotten Son never even considered trying to be equal to his Father. The Bible clearly teaches that the Father is greater than the Son. (John 14:28; 1 Corinthians 11:3) Jehovah alone is “God Almighty.” (Genesis 17:1) Therefore, he has no equal.



Jehovah and his firstborn Son enjoyed close association for billions of years—long before the starry heavens and the earth were created. How they must have loved each other! (John 3:35; 14:31) This dear Son was just like his Father. That is why the Bible refers to the Son as “the image of the invisible God.” (Colossians 1:15) Yes, even as a human son may closely resemble his father in various ways, this heavenly Son reflected his Father’s qualities and personality."



"Who is Jesus": http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/who-is-jesus-christ/
?
2013-02-27 18:56:05 UTC
We as christians are taught that God is one....He states, Hear O Isreal, the Lord thy God , the Lord is one...but in other places we learn that not only the father is God but also the son and the Holy spirit...but we are taught that God is one...how do we deal with this? So since they cant all be the same person we come up with that all are God but One as in perhaps a cluster of grapes(bad analogy)..none the less we must say God is one but also a trilogy...\

WE apprehend this, but we do not comprehend this...it is to even christians an enigma....
Typhoon
2013-02-27 18:50:38 UTC
Trinity that bird in the Matrix. lovely body but the boat needs a bit of work.
?
2013-02-27 19:14:23 UTC
Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three “Persons” are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah. Not a Bible teaching.



What is the origin of the Trinity doctrine?

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.



The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.



Does the Bible teach that the “Holy Spirit” is a person?

The Holy Scriptures tell us the personal name of the Father—Jehovah. They inform us that the Son is Jesus Christ. But nowhere in the Scriptures is a personal name applied to the holy spirit.

Acts 7:55, 56 reports that Stephen was given a vision of heaven in which he saw “Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” But he made no mention of seeing the holy spirit. (See also Revelation 7:10; 22:1, 3.)



The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.” (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575)



Does the Bible agree with those who teach that the Father and the Son are not separate and distinct individuals?

Matthew 26:39, RS: “Going a little farther he [Jesus Christ] fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’” (If the Father and the Son were not distinct individuals, such a prayer would have been meaningless. Jesus would have been praying to himself, and his will would of necessity have been the Father’s will.)



John 8:17, 18, RS: “[Jesus answered the Jewish Pharisees:] In your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true; I bear witness to myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness to me.” (So, Jesus definitely spoke of himself as being an individual separate and distinct from the Father.)



Does the Bible teach that all who are said to be part of the Trinity are eternal, none having a beginning?

Colossians 1:15, 16, RS: “He [Jesus Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation; for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth.” (Jesus was created.)



Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty?

Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)



Matthew 20:20-23, RS: “The mother of the sons of Zebedee . . . said to him [Jesus], ‘Command that these two sons of mine may sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom.’ But Jesus answered, . . . ‘You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.’” (How strange, if, as claimed, Jesus is God! Was Jesus here merely answering according to his “human nature”? If, as Trinitarians say, Jesus was truly “God-man”—both God and man, not one or the other—would it truly be consistent to resort to such an explanation? Does not Matthew 20:23 rather show that the Son is not equal to the Father, that the Father has reserved some prerogatives for himself?)



John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”
?
2013-02-27 18:51:19 UTC
I think it's a concept invented by theologians who wanted to worship Jesus as a god yet still call themselves monotheists.
ra†ia
2013-02-28 07:02:20 UTC
Salaams dear Blue...



it is my understanding that it is an esoteric law that:



"It always takes 3 to make 1 and yet there are 4."



mystery upon mystery. i have tried to understand this many times... sometimes with limited success. for example, if it is true.... i should be able to illustrate an example.



example: it takes you and me to make us... (1+1=3) ... and yet there is all else besides.



or...

looking at an atom...

proton + neutron (sometimes) + electron = atom



i still have some confusion regarding this saying... but i do believe it to be a true saying even though i am unclear on it. i further believe that it is all somehow related to the Mysterious Trinity.



but God knows best.

Allahu a'lam.



[Hallelujah - Rufus Wainwright]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQK4YfiPj1Q



edit: this might be helpful inshallah.

http://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/philo_lawof3.htm - The Law of Three

The most important process related application of the Law of Three in the Work is with the transformation of energies for our Being by the exercise of the two Conscious Shocks. Gurdjieff called this aspect of the Work 'Intentional Suffering.' In Beelzebub's Tales, the following prayer describes the process of "harnel-miatznel" as it is used in transforming energies for our Being.



Holy-Affirming,

Holy-Denying,

Holy-Reconciling,

Transubstantiate in me,

For my Being.



This prayer is referred to as The Holy Equation or the Holy Affirming Prayer.



double edit: The Law of Three, called Triamazikamno in Beelzebub's Tales, is one of the fundamental laws of the universe and is a direct manifestation of the triune nature of His Endlessness as it is expressed in the universe. Gurdjieff defined the triune nature of His Endlessness as three forces - Active, Passive and Neutral. The three Laws of the second note of the Ray of Creation are the direct manifestation of His Endlessness and this is called the Theomertmalogos by Gurdjieff in Beelzebub's Tales. It is the basis of all the structures and processes within the universe and man.



The most important structurally related application for humans is with the formation of an harmonious interrelatedness of the three centers of human consciousness, Intellect, Body and Emotions, in a state known as All-Brains-Balanced-Being-Perception. Gurdjieff called this aspect of the Work and its related repetoire of exercises 'Conscious Labor.'



Gurdjieff defined the process of interaction of the three forces as the "harnel-miatznel," where the higher blends with the lower in order together to actualize the middle, and thus to become either higher for the preceding lower or lower for the succeeding higher.



edit 3: The Law of Three with Maurice Nicoll pg 108-109 Commentaries

Every manifestation in the Universe is a result of the combination of three forces. These forces are called Active Force, Passive Force and Neutralizing Force.

Active Force is called 1st Force,

Passive Force is called 2nd Force,

Neutralizing Force is called 3rd Force.

1st Force can be defined as initiating force, 2nd Force as a force of resistance or reaction, and 3rd Force as balancing or relating principle or connecting force or point of application.



These three forces are found both in Nature and in Man. Throughout the Universe, on every plane, these three forces are at work. They are the creative forces. Nothing is produced without the conjunction of these three forces.



The conjunction of these three forces constitutes a triad. One triad creates another triad, both in the vertical scale and in the horizontal scale of Time. In Time, what we call a chain of events is a chain of triads.

(more can be found the Psychological Commentaries by Nicoll.)

(confusing, i know. very much of a mystery...)



final edit: The number Three has been used since time immemorial to describe the fundamental attributes, principles or personalities of God and the forces of Nature. Here are a few examples :



Christian - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.



Taoist - Yin, Yang, Tao



Hinduism - Brahma is the creator, Shiva is the destroyer, Vishnu is the preserver.



Hinduism - The Three Gunas - Rajas, Tamas, Sattva.



Zoroastrian - Ahura Mazda is the father of two twin spirits, Angra Mainyu is the destructive one, Spenta Mainyu is the holy spirit.



Egyptian - Re was his face; Ptah his body; and Amun his hidden identity



Sumerian - Anu is the father, Enlil is the wind-god of the earth, Enki is the god of waters and wisdom.



Etruscan - Tinia, Uni, and Menerva.



Roman - Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva.
E
2013-02-27 19:24:36 UTC
a Mis- taught doctrine of men and Not Biblical or scriptural at all
Mkemke
2013-02-27 19:16:30 UTC
it is a mystery, and by far the most subtle.

since we cannot really grasp the infinite. thus still up to now, making the trinity a mystery.
?
2013-02-27 19:09:43 UTC
God the Creator, God the Infinite Reality, and God the consciousness (present in all living things)
Anil
2013-02-27 18:49:37 UTC
Imaginary.
C.D.M.
2013-02-27 18:57:28 UTC
I go with what's been past down unto us thru-out the generations...



The Bible.



Don't go making changes.
anonymous
2013-02-27 19:23:31 UTC
trying to understand the trinity one can lose their mind .

rejecting the trinity one can lose their soul

a well known phrase
?
2013-02-27 18:50:32 UTC
She was pretty hot but no where as good at fighting as Neo.
PaulCyp
2013-02-27 18:51:53 UTC
This says it all: http://www.ccel.org/creeds/athanasian.creed.html
LaDolceVita
2013-02-27 18:51:04 UTC
Mer.Ka.Bah.
anonymous
2013-02-27 18:50:21 UTC
seriously?
anonymous
2013-02-27 19:19:38 UTC
the christian god.


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