Question:
What are the differences in prayer, contemplation, & meditation?
Just Be
2008-08-10 10:17:23 UTC
What are the defining features of each?
How do you practice each in your life?
Thanks in advance for answering & Blessings to all!
25 answers:
WillRogerswannabe
2008-08-13 20:35:04 UTC
Meditation - helps calm the never ending waves that flow upon the ocean, known as the human mind.

Contemplation - helps one witness and reflect on the stillness 'deep' within the ocean, known as the human mind.

Prayer - is that which allows a human being to come to the understanding through wisdom that "Only God can pray to God", and this leads to a state of surrender & finally "Unity".



Much Love,
mind-scaper
2008-08-10 17:16:11 UTC
Hello. The following is my opinion.

The defining features of prayer are a little more obscure for some. It involves, in a base, a short message to some God or figure with a hope in mind. Some people get on their knees and put their hands together and others bow and sing. I personally, if it sounds greedy to me it's not, pray very little but thank a lot. I pray to God when I feel that only he can give me peace of mind. When I'm not strong enough to know he is there. It may seem like I ask him for things only when I really want them but I don't. When I ask for something important I "tell him" that if he has to sacrifice a part of me for it he can. To me He doesn't need to be told to do so but it means that I'm not just praying for a careless want.

The defining features of contemplation are deep thought and a sense of size. People sometimes don't outwardly realize just how small we are as individuals. Contemplation includes emotions, epiphanies, and self-consideration. We all have our ways of contemplation but they are more closely related. It's like when we take a long walk in the afternoon or when we sit out in the dark after something has affected us. I think those thoughts in passing and when I do I get filled up with heavy emotions that sometimes bring sadness, elation, or white hot rage. I contemplate many things and have given myself probably a low ranking in life because I realize my size in reality. The prospect that I may never be anything that anyone remembers. Despite the sad tone I also realize that I have exactly what I would choose in my life. I have the "perfect fit" for me so to speak. I contemplate things daily.

The defining features of meditation are probably some of the most common among people. It is linked when we sit and breathe in a quiet secluded place that brings us calm. Almost every person alive practices this to me. I actually hardly ever meditate in an atempt to strengthen the "threshold" so I named it. I try to make it to wear I imagine the feeling so I can deal with it should it come. But in the times I do meditate I take in the entire environment and all the feelings I can so I can try to reach a calm from the fire within. But I don't meditate often as I also assume most modern people don't. I wish they did and I think it would help some people but others just "don't have the time" which to me is the very reason they would meditate.

I don't think that that person should be called insignificant for that insight which he has. Good bye and thank you.
Barry W
2008-08-11 06:30:17 UTC
Prayer is a conversation with God. Contemplation is focusing on one idea. Meditation involves stopping the internal dialogue and moving deeper into ones consciousness. I'm involved with art so in the act of drawing one is involved in contemplation since you are focusing on what you are drawing one item at a time. You are also involved with seeing and learning to see. It is an act that is very active since you are working while you are focusing and thinking while you are doing. Meditation is a passive act. It involves stopping the internal dialogue and in so doing you are free to be receptive to cosmic energy. I know of two types of mediation. The Chinese refer to the first type as gathering the light. It is done with the eyes open. The other type is done with the eys closed and is referred to as visiting the ancestrial home. We are used to meditating while engaging in stillness but there is a type of meditation that can be done when you are in motion. I find that the best way to stop the internal dialogue is to focus on your senses without being involved in any sort of judgement.
Nice Vibrations
2008-08-10 12:38:39 UTC
Prayer - To ask from a source that is usually perceived as something other than self with an expectation of receiving a positive answer.



Comtemplation - To ask in an attempt to receive from the same source which is also perceived as self.



Meditation - To go beyond asking and just be. Answers may flow (usually do).



Edit : Just read 'An Insignificant Sufi's answer. Seems we are both saying the same thing in two different ways. But I think both the answers are worthy in their unique way (as are several others). Someone may understand it this way or someone may understand it that way. But once one understands it, both 'this' and 'that' become clear to him/her. :-)
SHIVA
2008-08-10 10:56:26 UTC
Prayer is just that - a personal experience and intimate connection with our God...As we pray with adoration, recognizing the authority of God, we rest in the assurance that His children are His highest priority.



By 'meditation' we are referring to the active use of the mind, the feelings, the imagination, applied to a passage of scripture, or our own situation in life, or to any active way in which we try to understand God or ourselves in relation to God or God's world.



Contemplative prayer is almost the opposite. Some temperaments, or some people at a certain stage of their life, come to find that the ideas, the images, the imagination, the feelings, good though they are, somehow get in the way between God and themselves...so

in contemplative prayer we try to put aside all the thoughts and ideas that come to us, and simply focus on a single word or phrase or symbol.
John G
2008-08-10 10:30:33 UTC
Whilst meditation and contemplation are restful and often healing, prayer stands out as desiring an outcome in terms of helping others, Meditation and contemplation are often undertaken by religious folk in order to focus, direct and concentrate but prayer is mainly specific in its direction. A life of prayer is a dedicated one, active and passive. Active in the world as action rather than thoughts, it displays a love of one's fellow souls whatever. Passive it gives power to the mind to concentrate on key issues that matter in the world. For me prayer is to be converted into action if possible. It is a great blessing to convert positive thoughts into deeds that support others. Bless you too!
MysticMaze
2008-08-10 15:54:05 UTC
Meditation - the practice of stilling conditioned ego thoughts and aligning and stabilizing the mind/body system.



Contemplation - observing the relationship between being and reality and tracing cause/effect to its source in experience, the process of transcending the ego.



Prayer - a deliberate withdrawing from the world (mental fasting) in order to focus the whole mind on an outcome in the field of Reality - for a specific healing purpose.
the_chief
2008-08-10 11:27:30 UTC
I view the difference is the area of focus. In prayer, we are acknowledging that a Higher Power has the answers and we are seeking the will of someone other than ourselves. In medititation or contemplation, we seem to say that the powers come from within ourselves. I chose to have reflective prayers that not only Honors the power and Love of God but makes me realize what I must do to take responsibilty to prepare myself.
Thimmappa M.S.
2008-08-11 03:37:19 UTC
In Prayer we talk/appeal to God, in Meditation God 'speak' to us and the Contemplation is the base or the medium for both, provided, of course, all the three emanates from peace within. I practice them in the way I just mentioned.
Beulah
2008-08-10 11:28:53 UTC
Interesting question.



My take on it.



Prayer is a conversation with God. Prayer can be for many different reasons. You do not have to get down on your knees, or recite certain phrases. You do not have to be in any certain place. A lot of folk seem to think it is all about asking or demanding things from God. Or for begging forgiveness, or expressing thanks. OK it can be for that, but it can just as easily be when you are going about your ordinary day, and something catches your eye, and you see Gods beauty, love or strength in it. If you take the time to see it with Him and enjoy that shared moment, that to is prayer.



Contemplation is thinking deeply on something, studying it, getting to know every aspect and shade of whatever it is your are thinking on.



Meditation is a preperation of your mind, clearing out all that is not neccessary so you can then contemplate whatever it is that is important to you at that time.



How do I practice each in my life. That depends on the circumstance.



If it is dealing with a life situation, or problem. I meditate on it by praying (talking) to God about it, so I can clear my mind of abstractions, and focus on the matter. I then contemplate the different options there are, and the solutions. Can do this as I get on with my life, as God does not mind if you talk to Him when you are washing dishes or going for groceries.



When studying a certain passage or lesson from The Bible, I first read it, contemplate its meaning, to reach a basic understanding. I then meditate on what I have read, to clear my mind of any outside thoughts that may interfere, and to deepen my concentration. Then pray, thanking God for His Word, and the gift of the Holy Spirit to guide me through my learning. I then read the passage again, this time opening my heart to receive what God wants me to gain from it. When I finish I again thank God for His wisdom



God Bless
NRPeace
2008-08-10 13:06:59 UTC
I know that there are technical differences between these three things, but I will say that I think they are all one thing. I would like to see my life become all three like the notes to a song, in action every single moment of every single day. My life as a prayer. My actions those of contemplation of this very moment, the only one I have, but one which I miss often. Finally, all of me as a meditation, living mindfully in all that I do, one moment to the next.
i am Sirius
2008-08-11 07:03:05 UTC
One can only speak from one's experience, Phae. Having skimmed those answers that precede mine, i find many that resonate for me. This is my own practice and experience:



Prayer is active affirmation of and gratitude for All That Is (grooving on the Isness, so to speak, but never an "asking," for i have no illusions of improving on what already is...rather, i "see" the perfection of what already is and actively/willfully resonate to it, soaking it into my being)



Contemplation is the map for observing "my" separation from Source, deconstruction of the illusionary ego



Meditation is entering the silence where ego's illusion is not, but only Source is



(an aside: here comes Spell Checker again, telling me i have 5 spelling errors...but this time i am ready for it, for i know Spell Checker is also an illusion and there is nothing to resist)



i am Sirius
neil s
2008-08-10 11:13:39 UTC
Prayer is marked by conversational language. Contemplation is concentration based, but not necessarily language oriented. Meditation is meant to move the mind past thought, so even if a word (mantra) is used, the idea is to transcend it, not to concentrate on it.
semi enlightened
2008-08-10 11:54:20 UTC
Different spellings for one....:)



In my insignificant opinion

1) Prayer = showing gratitude, love to Divine's bounties. Sometimes asking for help and guidance.



2) Contemplation = Like Philosophy, developing a perception of life and eternity. Through basic contemplation, one attains knowledge of the path and the beauty and importance of balance in it.



3) Meditation = Stillness of mind to listen to the universal spirit



It is through Contemplation one realizes that heaven is a state of mind

It is through Meditation he/she achieves peace of mind

It is through Prayer he/she sustains that peace of mind



Told you, its a worthless answer. ((((((((((((Phae))))))))))



Peace, Love and Blessings.
CaptAnil
2008-08-11 22:17:01 UTC
In My own limited knowledge it means below :-)))





Prayer : I feel it is for some thing you ask for others from God

Contemplation: I call it our own Intent

Meditation: This is session with self where you connect to Universe around you:-)
naughty
2008-08-10 19:30:15 UTC
Prayer is an outpouring of heart towards the beloved but there is duality.

Contemplation is focussing of awareness on particular area of interest.

In this also there is duality.

Meditation is just presence of awareness without movement of thought

so there is no duality in it.In meditation awareness is not directed.

Where as in prayer and contemplation it is directed and so limited.
2016-04-07 04:10:27 UTC
Meditation is self-reflection... Prayer is speaking with God
Breath on the Wind
2008-08-10 14:20:57 UTC
CONTEMPLATION:

It is in defining contemplation that you have a wide diversity of answers. Mostly I think this is because it is outside of our experience. I give you a cite if you are curious.



I have heard it said that prayer is when you talk to God and Meditation is when God talks to you. Could Contemplation then be when you talk to each other? It would have to be more like when good friends talk to each other with one mind. Some of the East describe contemplation as "to see God"4 But it most certainly is involved with and perhaps one goal of mysticism. I could only give you direct experience on the first two and believe that contemplation is another state of awareness entirely.



PRAYER:

Christians are taught to practice prayer quite a bit. One Christian cite outlines seven types of prayer. These are prayers of petition, confession, adoration, intercession, meditation (silence,) thanksgiving, and consecration.1 It is interesting that meditation is described as silence and a form of prayer. Because there is a clear distinction between God and Man there may be more reluctance to allow the possibility of meditation. Although some form of meditation may be involved in all religions.3



If you take my meaning it suggests that God can talk to anyone who meditates and this is problematic for any religion which has a hierarchical structure. For them God speaks to the appointed who speaks for God to the masses. Prayer for the masses is safe for religion, any religion not just Christianity. Meditation is more suited to mysticism than organized religious practice.



I had to travel East to learn more about Meditation. In the East, the relationship between God and Man is less distinct. Buddhism does not even believe in God. For them Enlightment is the ultimate goal.



You might meditate in a group (as in "world" meditations,) but its essence is individual and not group oriented. I suspect it makes a difference if one person asks for something or a whole church full ask for the same thing (even if only to the people asking.) Although like the East, the west has mystical branches of its religions, they are often marginalized and western mystics can come up hard against doctrines of the religion of which they are a part. If you accept Thomas Merton as a mystic then his struggles may be an example of this.5



CONCENTRATION:

My experience with meditation suggests that meditation is more a process of the absence of mind rather than the emphasis upon it. Wiki's definition talks about intense focus on one object.3 But my experience suggests that this is only a prelude to meditation. This prelude may be described simply as concentration. (Which you could have asked about separately.) For those learning to meditate the most difficult part is often to quiet the mind. It is easy to give up if you don't have initial success. The first time I began a practice of meditation it took me over 3 years to quiet the mind. Even then success was not always guaranteed.



MEDITATION:

My best analogy is that meditation is like listening. As in listening you can't be talking or thinking of your next response. Not, in any event, if you are truly listening to understand. Your focus must be upon listening. When you intently listen you must be quiet and still. Your focus is to block out all distractions, but it is in the absence of all else that meditation takes place. Even in the absence of concentration.



Yes, there are mantras (chants) and other vocal and visual techniques but although we might describe them as "meditation techniques" they are there to guide us to a goal. They are not that goal. If you want to "watch" someone meditating you might get some idea from Sufi dancing. (Whirling.)2 Or look at pictures of the sitting Buddha.



Prayer for me is still a confirmation of what I believe, but my real spiritual practice involves the constant listening of meditation. It is certainly not a practice for everyone. Contemplation is another goal off in some distant future.
2008-08-10 10:28:12 UTC
The similarity is 'intention', I believe this is the defining feature of each as well.
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2008-08-10 10:22:03 UTC
The first one is what a Christian may do while the remaining two is what Oprah Winfrey and here new world religion may do.
ra†ia
2008-08-10 22:20:50 UTC
hello phae.



this is a prayer. it is meant for your ears. it is song of love from the heart... and even if you have heard it before... it is always good to hear a song of love.



we hope that you contemplate it while you are meditating on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VqoxOcEqpk&feature=related

we love you very much. lol.

)))R&S(((



"Nuh wah doe he yaw duh"
shivamat bhairav
2008-08-11 06:01:28 UTC
PRAYER IS EITHER A DEMAND OR BEGGING SOMETHING FROM GOD

CONTEMPLATION IS THE USE OF LOGIC AND INTELLIGENCE TO KNOW GOD

MEDITATION IS BEYOND THE ABOVE TWO IT IS LIVING IN PRESENT WITH AWARNESS THAT IS THE TRUE GOD!
Angel SA
2008-08-10 12:08:14 UTC
They are all the same thing but done differently by different people.



GOD BLESS! AMEN! SHALOM!
2008-08-10 10:22:16 UTC
Simple Answer...!



Player... A Doer !



Contemplation... A Reasoner !



Meditation.... A Thinker !



Thanks, RR
2008-08-12 12:25:13 UTC
To me, they are all rolled into one package... thought. :-)

(but what do i know... hehe)


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