Question:
Why this double standard by Popes ?
2010-12-17 01:49:36 UTC
According to Wickie Leaks, in spite of Turkey being a secular state,
Pope was against her inclusion in the European Union blaming evil
intentions. But just a few years ago, a pope issued a decree setting
aside the tradition of cursing the killers of Christ son of Mary on Easter.

Why this double standard by the papacy? Would Roman Catholics
kindly care to explain?
Thirteen answers:
2010-12-17 08:52:09 UTC
Why this double standard by Imams (muslim clerics) ?



According to Wiki Leaks, in spite of India being a secular state,

the imams (muslim clerics) was against her inclusion in the European Union blaming evil

intentions. But just a few years ago, an imam issued a decree setting

aside the tradition of cursing the Christians and the Jews on Eid



Why this double standard by islam? Would Sunni muslims

kindly care to explain?
Nebulous
2010-12-17 10:38:37 UTC
Officially letting go of a tradition (that was essentially holding a grudge against a specific group of long-dead people based on a specific action) is one thing. I have never heard of that 'tradition' which would be very odd if it truly existed since Jesus himself said "Father, forgive them. They don't know what they're doing." (Luke 23:34). Please could you provide an actual source for that comment about that papal decree or the 'tradition' you are referring to?



Believing it was a bad thing for the EU to accept Turkey as a member "without having made the necessary advances in religious freedom" (see 3rd link under the heading "Caveats") is an entirely different issue, based on the current (at that time) status of religious freedom in Turkey.



How is that a double standard?
lyn1136
2010-12-17 13:21:24 UTC
No electee can "wipe out the de fide doctrine" promulgated by previous valid popes. He made the attempt, but as a valid pope, he cannot erase his predecessors permanent doctrine on praying for the Turks and the Jews. Those who have done so prove their invalid papal status, i.e., , Roncalli, Montini, Luciani, Wojtyla, Ratzinger. They were elected by irresponsible electors, to say the least. To say the most is to name the electors as sinful apostates who had no business electing unqualified traitors to the Catholic Doctrine.



The valid papal record shows that the True Church always prayed for the Turks & the Jews, for all to return to the protection of the True Faith for which All Men were created. The True Church was consistent & constant in her prayer for those outside the Church. As Traditional Catholics, we still are.



No go tell all those "catholics" that you know--and watch the sparks fly when they read this continuing message by Catholics who HAVE DONE their homework on what it takes to be a Catholic. The impostors in 1958 had been "blind-sided" by the :"papal populorum method" beginning with world-wide press, photo ops, and silly excursions by these electees; they did everything BUT behave as representatives of Christ and His Doctrine. Instead, they impressed the gullible with their impression of being papal representatives. And it worked! as Pentangelli said to Consire Tom in Godfather II. There is nothing like a closed conspiracy to pull off fraud at any level.



It is the false catholics who support the false popes of Vatican 2. Falsity is constantly revealed by the contradictions (Wojtyla even proudly issued a book entiled "Sign of Contradiction") but the new modernist members didn't get it.



It certainly is not the Traditional Catholics who were "thrown out" of their own churches, their own Mass, and forced to keep the faith in rented rooms & private homes. We will maintain prayer for the Turks & the Jews & in the Last Days there will be many who return to the message of Christ they knew before Muhammed came along. But Impostor catholics have a price to pay in Divine Justice for the uncharity committed against Catholics---those like Tammee, who have walked away from the modernist mess into heresy & apostasy without ever knowing why they thought they had to do so.



Traditional Catholics at

traditionalmass.org/
Greg
2010-12-17 10:00:56 UTC
Yeah, I'll explain with a question:



Why are you making up stuff? "the tradition of cursing the killers of Christ son of Mary on Easter."?



I've been suspicious you were were a Jewish troll, given the fact you are brighter than the average Muslim, and your superstitious habit of dashing out the "o" in the word "God" like only a superstitious Jew would.



I think I'm convinced now, that you are a typical, Catholic-hating, propaganda spreading, hateful Jew.



Quit trolling and quit being a false-witness bearing liar.
Farsight
2010-12-17 10:06:20 UTC
The killers of Christ were Romans. Catholics recognize this. They also recognize that it was necessary for their salvation, and so criticize no one for killing him. You're just making crap up in an attempt to defame.
tammee
2010-12-17 10:22:16 UTC
Yep, that's the problem with following a Pope!!! One can totally wipe out another's rule.

I don't get it! I'm an ex-Catholic and don't follow anybody.
2010-12-17 09:52:16 UTC
WikiLeak wins again.
Matt
2010-12-17 09:55:11 UTC
There are countless self-contradictions and double standards in the bible and religion.
bivsaur_ii
2010-12-17 09:51:43 UTC
The Pope is infallible; applying "standard"s to him is impossible while maintaining faith.
your conscious
2010-12-17 09:53:56 UTC
Don't believe it. Jesus forgave his enemies at the foot of the cross....and Catholics are called to forgive their enemies too...always have been.
2010-12-17 09:52:05 UTC
Turkey is pile of dogshit anyway.
Matthew
2010-12-17 09:51:25 UTC
Don't look to Popes. Look to Jesus.
Comfort
2010-12-17 09:58:40 UTC
He can do ? they rejected truth,


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