Question:
So, Mitt Romney thinks that some people take "separation of church and state too far"?
anonymous
2012-08-21 14:16:56 UTC
Can someone PLEASE smack this idiot in the back of the head for me?
He really should get it drilled through his thick skull that the Founding Fathers of the USA meant for Separation of Church and State to be ABSOLUTE.
In fact, one of them said the following about it;
"Freedom can be measured as the distance between the church, and the state. Once those two institutions are joined, all freedom has been lost."

Do you think Romney is smart enough to figure out who said that? I for one highly doubt it.
21 answers:
anonymous
2012-08-21 14:19:27 UTC
Romney believes in the exact opposite of our belief in secular government, and if left to his own, would support a complete theocracy. He's one of the most dangerous people in the world if he got any closer to the presidency than he is right now.
primavera
2016-07-27 07:32:03 UTC
Duh. However while the Reverend is not deliberating nearly all of religious americans who do vote. We do not know what the founders meant for religion in our public faculties or government buildings. But he does have a point. How does having the 10 Commandments on a court docket building promote a religion, how does having a cross on personal property promote religion. In both circumstances it doesn't. If the court docket rules on legal guidelines made up on these 10 Commandments, which our legal guidelines are, how does it? I agree, that church and state should be separate, however at what point do we try to separate them do much we are actually working to stamp out a religion? That's what I feel Romney was once looking to say. Just right question.
?
2012-08-21 14:49:09 UTC
No actually the founders did not.



I would challenge you to show me in the Declaration, Constitution or Bill of Rights the mention of Separation of Church and State.



The concept was articulated by Jefferson in a letter he wrote on his PERSONAL OPINION regarding the establishment of an official church for the country. It is not found in any documents outside of this. It has become a matter of law based on precedent but it is not in the constitution or bill of rights... not that, that matters most of what is occurring in Government right now is a complete violation of the Constitution and bill of rights.
anonymous
2012-08-21 14:32:30 UTC
In the article, he states "We are indeed one nation, under god, and in god we do trust."



No, we don't, Mittens.



And nobody's trying to remove all mention of religion from "the public square" -- what the constitution requires is that government endorsement or promotion of religion, ANY religion, not occur. Individuals can say whatever they want, they government can't. Moron.



Keep in mind, Mittens' church has a "prophecy" that one day the US government will "hang by a thread," and it will be the mormon church (or an individual mormon) who "rescues" it. He probably sees himself as the fulfillment of that "prophecy." I know many mormon church members do. Frightening.



Peace.
Pale Rider
2012-08-21 14:35:09 UTC
The problem is not that we of Faith wish a theocracy but that we wish to freely exercise our Faith and some (activists) wish we not be allowed to at all.



Are you one of those who wish that Government would prohibit the "free exercise thereof"?



If so, you are not but like that one which would enslave us all to a theocracy~ Therefore a hypocrite living in fear because you have not the faith to believe that your way of thinking is correct....thus you mock and deride in defense of what you claim to believe just like a faithless christian who thinks that he can change the world with politics.



Have a nice day
?
2012-08-21 14:19:04 UTC
The Catholic church desperately wants an outspoken christian in the white house. Then they will really rule the world and we can go back to the dark ages where women stay in the kitchen and pump out babies until we run out of resources because God said it was good.
?
2012-08-21 14:21:39 UTC
The Founding Fathers said the same thing, many of them. Sorry. You are wrong.



This is utter falsehood and I will prove it : Founding Fathers of the USA meant for Separation of Church and State to be ABSOLUTE.



ONE

the phrase “separation of church and state” is not even found in the Constitution! (Thomas Jefferson used the term in a private letter to reassure the Baptists that the government would not interfere in the free exercise of their religious beliefs [Jefferson, 1802]) -- note : State won't interfere, not the other way around !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



TWO

(Annals of Congress, 1789, pp. 440ff.). The facts of the matter are that by their use of the term “religion,” the Framers had in mind the several Protestant denominations. Their concern was to prevent any single Christian denomination from being elevated above the others and made the State religion—a circumstance that the Founders had endured under British rule when the Anglican Church was the state religion of the thirteen colonies. They further sought to leave the individual States free to make their own determinations with regard to religious (i.e., Christian) matters (cf. Story, 1833, 3.1873:730-731). The “Father of the Bill of Rights,” George Mason, actually proposed the following wording for the First Amendment, which demonstrates the context of their wording:



[A]ll men have an equal, natural and unalienable right to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that no particular sect or society of Christians ought to be favored or established by law in preference to others (Rowland, 1892, 1:244, emp. added).



THREE

The Constitution recognizes STATES RIGHTS

he average American would be startled to know that of the original eleven state constitutions (omitting Connecticut), seven explicitly required office holders to be of the Protestant religion (i.e., Vermont, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia). Maryland’s constitution required a belief in the Christian religion. The constitutions of Delaware and Pennsylvania required a belief in the inspiration of the Old and New Testaments. While the Virginia and New York constitutions did not mandate an oath, they spoke of “Christian forbearance” and “no one denomination of Christians” above another (“State Constitutions,” n.d.).
AdamKadmon
2012-08-21 14:26:00 UTC
Well, Romney believes (as a Mormon) that black people were "fence sitters in the War on Heaven" and that's their punishment for coming to earth. They only allowed blacks in their Temples in 1978 (I remember the uproar) a decade after blacks and white were legally allowed to marry in the U.S.



He also believes that God (yes, GOD) was once a man too. He (Mormon's) believe god lives on the planet Kolob (where they got the planet Kobol for in Battlestar: Galactica since its major writer was a Mormon) and that one day he can be God over his own planet (LOOK IT UP!)



Sorry, but I'm not buying this snake-oil.
anonymous
2012-08-21 14:27:51 UTC
Ok I am just pointing out that I am Mormon and NOT voting for Romney...he has his own views on the separation of church and state and that's fine. I think it should be completely separated and it has no reason to be involved. Having a Mormon for president would not be the worst thing on the planet...this is one man and he does NOT represent the LDS church. He just happens to be apart of it that does not make him someone who speaks for the whole church. So instead of sitting there and saying a Mormon in office would be the worst thing on the planet, grow up and realize that he is a grown man. He forms his own opinions outside of the Church.



Also I am Christian and being LDS has NOTHING to do with the Muslim religion. We believe in God and Jesus Christ and the atonement. The Muslim religion believes that Jesus was a Prophet, I believe he was the son of God...see the difference? Good, now you can join the grown up society



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megalomaniac
2012-08-21 14:19:01 UTC
Typical politician, cynically bending words for his own purposes without care for the underlying meaning or consequences. He may be smart enough but he's got the blinders on and one goal in mind - power.
?
2012-08-21 14:22:20 UTC
Mitt Romney isn't even a Christian. As someone else pointed out, Mormonism is simply an American version of Islam.
?
2012-08-21 14:20:55 UTC
For him to be smart enough to figure that out is to imply that he is actually smart. I for one highly doubt it too.
Take these Words
2012-08-21 14:18:42 UTC
We will collectively smack him in the ballot come November for you.
Mythos
2012-08-21 14:25:09 UTC
Can we send him up there to the great white North?





Maybe he could direct traffic or flip pancakes at some restaurant in British Columbia.



Get him out of my hair for a while anyway.
anonymous
2012-08-21 14:18:53 UTC
Some politicians seem unaware of the Constitution.
Dances with Labradors
2012-08-21 14:21:46 UTC
If a Mormon gets to be President, I will want to take that separation further than it has ever been taken before!
?
2012-08-21 14:20:23 UTC
Separate church and state is NOT in the Constitution. Can you show it to me?
?
2012-08-21 14:21:55 UTC
Romney is RIGHT. Some people do take "separation of church and state". Stalin is one prime example. He hated religion and attacked it much like liberals of today. I see so many similarities between the two. It is scary
synopsis
2012-08-21 14:19:20 UTC
He's a Muslim.



Mormons have always denied the Divinity of Christ, and insisted Jesus was no more than a prophet.



Only in America would people fail to notice how these are the core tenets of Islam.
Athena
2012-08-21 14:26:44 UTC
If you see MittTwit before I do, please smack him twice!
?
2012-08-21 14:19:17 UTC
He's a dumbass. The republican candidates are complete jokes this year.


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