Question:
Creationism/Evolution "debate"?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Creationism/Evolution "debate"?
22 answers:
punch
2009-05-04 17:25:39 UTC
Sorry. There IS no debate. Creationist think there is, but no one will debate them. Because in the Scientific community there IS no debate! And Christians have no evidence of creation. Certainly no testable Scientific evidence.



But here's a little help.
LucidDreamer
2009-05-04 17:27:47 UTC
Of the scientists and engineers in the United States, only about 5% are creationists, according to a 1991 Gallup poll (Robinson 1995, Witham 1997). However, this number includes those working in fields not related to life origins (such as computer scientists, mechanical engineers, etc.). Taking into account only those working in the relevant fields of earth and life sciences, there are about 480,000 scientists, but only about 700 believe in "creation-science" or consider it a valid theory (Robinson 1995). This means that less than 0.15 percent of relevant scientists believe in creationism. And that is just in the United States, which has more creationists than any other industrialized country. In other countries, the number of relevant scientists who accept creationism drops to less than one tenth of 1 percent.



Additionally, many scientific organizations believe the evidence so strongly that they have issued public statements to that effect. The National Academy of Sciences, one of the most prestigious science organizations, devotes a Web site to the topic. A panel of seventy-two Nobel Laureates, seventeen state academies of science, and seven other scientific organizations created an amicus curiae brief which they submitted to the Supreme Court (Edwards v. Aguillard 1986). This report clarified what makes science different from religion and why creationism is not science.



One needs to examine not how many scientists and professors believe something, but what their conviction is based upon. Most of those who reject evolution do so because of personal religious conviction, not because of evidence. The evidence supports evolution. And the evidence, not personal authority, is what objective conclusions should be based on.
anonymous
2009-05-04 17:26:22 UTC
"Debating Creationists on the topic of Evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - Scott D. Weitzenhoffer









Check out this website.



"15 Answers toi Creationist nonsense"



http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=15-answers-to-creationist
hippo
2009-05-04 17:26:05 UTC
Yes... the Blind Watchmaker.



And Climbing Mount Improbable - Richard Dawkins.
?
2009-05-04 17:30:53 UTC
"Creationism/Evolution "debate"?"

There is NO debate anywhere on PlanetOurs except in backward countries like USA, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, etc.



Educated people are aware that evolution is the corner stone of modern medicine.



There is no "theory of creation".

There is belief in supernatural creation, but there is no "theory", no mechanism, no predictions, no observability, no falsifiability, nothing to give creationism (or intelligent design, or creation science) the label of "theory".

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Anonymous #265
2009-05-04 17:25:01 UTC
The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins
anonymous
2009-05-04 17:38:39 UTC
Answers in Genesis is trying to simulate legitimate 'peer review' of its creationist articles. I'm thinking that it would interest you to see how they vette 'scientists' and their 'papers' for publication.



"VIII. Paper Review Process

Upon the reception of a paper the editor-in-chief will follow the procedures below:

A. Receive and acknowledge to the author the paper’s receipt.

B. Review the paper for possible inclusion into the ARJ review process.

The following criteria will be used in judging papers:

1. Is the paper’s topic important to the development of the Creation and Flood model?

2. Does the paper’s topic provide an original contribution to the Creation and Flood model?

3. Is this paper formulated within a young-earth, young-universe framework?

4. If the paper discusses claimed evidence for an old earth and/or universe, does this paper offer a very

constructively positive criticism and provide a possible young-earth, young-universe alternative?

5. If the paper is polemical in nature, does it deal with a topic rarely discussed within the origins

debate?

6. Does this paper provide evidence of faithfulness to the grammatical-historical/normative interpretation

of Scripture? If necessary, refer to: R. E. Walsh, 1986. Biblical hermeneutics and creation. Proceedings

First International Conference on Creationism, vol. 1, pp. 121–127. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania: Creation

Science Fellowship.

Remark:

The editor-in-chief will not be afraid to reject a paper if it does not properly satisfy the above criteria or it

conflicts with the best interests of AiG as judged by its biblical stand and goals outlined in its statement of

faith. The editors play a very important initial role in preserving a high level of quality in the ARJ, as well as

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protecting AiG from unnecessary controversy and review of clearly inappropriate papers."



Here is a link to the complete instructions to authors page,



http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/pdf/arj/instructions-to-authors.pdf
?
2016-05-26 17:22:20 UTC
Partly because Creation is a religious or philosophical concept rather than a scientific one. The creationist is not interested in unlocking the mysteries of the physical universe, but rather more interested in the doctrine of salvation, and he or she mistakenly believes that evolution is an obstacle to that objective. I for one think that creationism belongs in the religion cateogry, while evolution belongs in the biology category. Intelligent Design could straddle religion and philosophy, but it is not an accepted scientific model. (Although many scientists do accept the Weak Anthropic Principle, it is still more a philosophical postition that a scientific fact).
anonymous
2009-05-04 17:33:00 UTC
there is NO debate ... Evolution rolls on .. unabated .. forever.

religion is a scam.
Brian
2009-05-04 17:26:10 UTC
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/

and

http://www.talkorigins.org/



are both really good websites to find sources



the Blind Watchmaker is very good too, but it's been mentioned
Buddy_Lee_Hombre_de_accion
2009-05-04 17:27:06 UTC
Actually Evolution and Creationism shouldn't be pinned together. It's the religious fanatics that usually make that mistake, but plenty of Atheists are making that mistake too.



Evolution doesn't rule out in any way a creator. Evolution has nothing to do with life beginning. The theory of Evolution explains how life became what it is today, not how it came into existance.



edit: I see many are still confusing abiogenesis with evolution. Amazing.



edit2: Creationism hasn't been "debunked". However many of the many uneducated claims have obviously been debunked. There's a difference.

Just so you know, it's Creationists who usually say that the sun is the main culprit in global warming. There's nothing illogical about that claim, and plenty of proof to back it. Yet many in the Scientific Community still disagree with that claim too. Creationists are also starting to say that mankind is actually becoming less intelligent (see Hughes). I think R&S is evidence enough for that.
Jason M
2009-05-04 17:29:19 UTC
you insult most here and then ask for help? the only logically consistent and scientific part? so it is a law now? To do well in the debate you need to act like a scientist and look objectively about all the theories that are in the debate. None are proven so trying to insult the intelligence of the opposite debater is the quickest way to losing.



And I don't know of any books that prove anything. Do not try and use fossil records or whatnot though as I as an intelligent disgner would jsut harp upon the "missing" parts of the record. There is no winner or loser, jsut teh better debater
anonymous
2009-05-04 17:31:28 UTC
You need to go to the very beginning. The debate concerning the origin of life has been going on for a hundred years and that puzzle hasn't been answered and if you really think we evolved from a one celled micro, Oh well. There's a question of DNA
Encourager
2009-05-04 18:09:37 UTC
Have you EVER even read the Bible? All the way through?



Believing evolution is like going into a car junkyard.....parts of cars are lying everywhere....and you set off this huge explosion....parts are flying everywhere......and after all the dust settles....you look and ....there in front of you is this huge 747 jet perfectly running...all put together perfectly....computers on board all put together. Just how did it get put together ... running perfectly.....what bunk...that would be impossible! Just as evolution is a bunch of bunk and impossible.



Now HOW DUMB IS THAT? Car parts "evolved" into this perfectly running 747 jet....where did THOSE parts come from, HUH?



Well that's how stupid evolution is. I don't think you have seriously examined the "proof" of creation.



Listen to this quote from The Good News Magazine "Evolution: Fact or Fiction Sept/Oct 1998



"Just how complex are the tiniest living things? Even the simplest cells must possess a staggering amount of genetic information to function. For instance, the bacterium R. coli is one of the tiniest unicellular creatures in nature. Scientists calculate is has some 2,000 genes, each with around 1,000 enzymes. An enzyme is made up of some one billion nucleotides, which amount to a letter in the chemical alphabet, comparable to a byte in computer language. These enzymes instruct the organism how to function and reproduce. THE DNA INFORMATION IN JUST THIS SINGLE TINY CELL IS "THE APPROXIMATE EQUIVALENT OF 100 MILLION PAGES OF THE ENCYCLYPEDIA BRITANNICA. (John Whitcomb, The Early Earth, 1972, p. 79.)



What are the odds that the enzymes needed to produce the simplest living creature -- with each enzyme performing a specific chemical function -- could come together by CHANCE? Mathematician and astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle calculated the odds at one chance in 1040,000 (that is 10 to the 40,000th power: mathematical shorthand for a 10 followed by 40,000 zeros - a number long enough to fill about seven pages of this magazine.) *** Note that a probability of less than 1 in 1050 is considered by mathematicians to be a complete impossibility (Hayward, p.35-37.)



From the Good News website



Why don't you get some books which look at evolution:



1.) Darwin on Trial, Phillip Johnson, 1993 This book, by a professor of law at the University of California at Berkeley, puts the theory of evolution "on trial" by examining scientific detail that argues convincingly against the theory of evolution.



2.)Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution

by Michael Behe, 1996 Written by a university biochemist demonstrating that the tiny building blocks of life - cells and their components - are far too complex for their codependent parts and processes to have evolved without an outside intelligent design at work.





I think evolutionists just don't want to hear the truth....they don't look up the facts supporting creation ..... search it for themselves....they just listen to what the news media put into the papers. God's word is true...in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And He says in his word that "even creation declares the glory of God."



He says that one day, "every knee WILL bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. If you don't do it in this life....you WILL do it in the next.



Just why won't you read the Bible? Are you afraid it might really be true? God created you....the Bible says you are fearfully and wonderfully made. God created you to have a relationship with you. He wants to be in your life to help you live this life...to show his love for you.....just look at the sunrise and sunsets....perfectly timed....look at your own body....how perfectly is operates and is formed.....we're like little computers.....that didn't just happen by accident....it took intelligence to make this universe...I pray that you will see that.
Jessica B
2009-05-04 17:33:34 UTC
Not many books, but i DO know that if you hang around R&S enough, you can find plenty of information for both sides of this "debate."
Peace Through Blinding Force
2009-05-04 17:28:58 UTC
Apples and oranges.

It seems your understanding of even the fundamentals is faulty.

Evolution makes no attempt whatsoever to explain the ORIGIN of life and creationism does not deny evolution since life's dawning.
anonymous
2009-05-04 18:24:14 UTC
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If you are interested in the Creationists point of view, go to



http://evolution-facts.org/Downloads/Evolution%20CruncherP.pdf



May God bless you as you study the TRUTH



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anonymous
2009-05-04 17:26:12 UTC
The God Delusion by the aforementioned Dawkins, a god amongst atheists.
?
2009-05-04 17:30:44 UTC
Well, seeing that you are extremely biased and close-minded, I would just recommend that you make up the entire paper.
Starstruck*
2009-05-04 17:27:13 UTC
I'm not actually going to tell you any books...I just really want to tell you my opinion!





I think we were created and evolved from that....=]
anonymous
2009-05-04 17:25:25 UTC
Mysteries In Science

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5725394906886443944&ei=QHDFSeLrD47I-gG6m6z1Bw&q=fingerprints+of+creation&hl=en



The Young Age of the Earth

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/faith_and_spirituality/watch/v142573852wTf25Nx#



The Origin of Man by Dr. Duane Gish

http://www.strimoo.com/video/14877425/The-Origin-of-Man-by-Dr-Duane-Gish-Veoh.html



Skull Fossils - As Empty as the Evolutionary Theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yu5jN897kM



Neanderthals - Smarter Than We Thought

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxL636n3w2o



Creation In The 21st Century - Our Young Moon 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i3jtYx7NMk



The "Dark Cloud" of the Big Bang

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8903287973124207940&ei=znTFScGOApzE-gHD6IHBCg&q=Dr+Robert+gentry&hl=en



Why do creationists feel sorry for delusionists?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d4b_1214585502



Today's World Population Debunks Evolution- Dr. Carl Baugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWxqzNM76jE



Creation In The 21st Century -- Noah's Ark and Jesus 1 of 3 (Parallel)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQg67H4GK1o
jl
2009-05-04 17:25:39 UTC
do your own research.


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