Question:
How does Wiccanism Make Sense?
The State
2009-10-04 14:27:47 UTC
I don't understand Wiccanism and witchcraft at all. How can you guys believe in withcraft and spells? I have a problem understanding how people can be so delusional. I see silly people asking how they make LOVE SPELLS. LOVE SPELLS, COME ON? How does THAT make sense? I'm sorry but, how the heck does any of this make sense to you?

My brain just aches from how people believe in such non-sense.

So, once again... how does Wiccanism make any sense?

Edit: Wow, what a surprise, this question gets deleted within 10 minutes!
Fourteen answers:
Rai A
2009-10-06 21:19:22 UTC
Wiccanism is bad grammar.



The Faith is Wicca, the followers are Wiccan.



We believe Love spells take away another's free will and is unethical.



I'd suggest maybe looking at http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/wicca0.htm for generalised basic information. OK I recently found few articles have not been attributed - but the rest are OR were written by the Site's owner. I'd also suggest reading http://www.witchvox.com/ or http://www.religioustolerance.org .



[Later: Ignore the BukkaCapri troll. He/She/It got in a huff because they started demanding most Wiccans here give them money spells etc.]



[Later still: I gave you several urls about what Wicca is about. If you can't be bothered reading them then thst's your problem. Attacking people because you can't be bothered is just being out & out rude. Wicca is NOT a cult - there is no one "charismatic leader" - and "Wiccanism is NOT an acceptable term, it's usage is ONLY being adopted solely because rude ignorant brats can't be bothered checking their facts.]



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Nightwind
2009-10-06 21:52:09 UTC
Wiccanism is not a word. Wicca is a religion. Witchcraft is a magical practice. They are nowhere near the same thing.



Wicca is not about spells. Perhaps you should do a modicrum of research before lashing out like an ignorant lunatic.



Places to start:

http://wicca.timerift.net/wicca101

http://wicca.timerift.net/wiccans.shtml



Many witches either don't believe love spells work, or find them to be unethical. Witches are not delusional simply because you have no clue what their practices are about.



Are there some delusional witches (and Wiccans) out there? Yes. I dare you to find a subgroup that doesn't have a few cranks. That doesn't mean they're the majority, or that witchcraft or Wicca really have anything to do with their general delusions.



Edit: Clearly you have no idea what a cult is either. In the broadest sense, all religions are cult. In common usage, meaning a dangerous and controlling group, Wicca doesn't come anywhere close. And even if Wicca was a dangerous cult, that doesn't somehow give you the right to just make up new names for them.



Fail, fail, fail.
Crystal clear
2009-10-07 14:12:57 UTC
"Wiccanism" doesn't make any sense to be because it is not a valid word.



Seriously, if you wanted better answers, maybe you shouldn't have included insults in your details directed at the very people you are asking a question of. How does judging and insulting people you seek information from make any sense?



Witchcraft and spells are not what Wicca is.



The religion of Wicca, while popularized in the early 50's, believes in gods and goddesses and honors those pre-Christian gods (so new religion yes, but not new gods).



It's a religion for the modern-day that draws much from the ancient pagans - let's face it, we don't *have to* live by the land and the seasons in the way our pagan ancestors did what with all the technology, luxuries and conveniences we have now, but if not for them and their wisdom about the natural world, we would not be here today - so I don't believe it's "delusional" to respect and remember where we came from.



It always made sense to me that the divine power would have both male and female counterparts, considering every living thing on earth does.



And I also believe in living by a solid code of ethics. I don't believe in the existence of any devil or "Satan" but rather that folks should accept the responsibility for their own actions, and the consequences of them.



These are among the number of reasons why Wicca makes sense to me and is the right religion for me. Is that enough for you?



As far as witchcraft and spells. Well first, love spells in the sense you are likely thinking of, have no place in Wicca.



You stated above that your brain just aches from thinking about how people believe in nonsense. So, your thoughts are affecting you pysically? Hmmm, simple thoughts can make your head hurt - imagine what powerful, focused thoughts can do. That's what magic is.



As far as other practices of witchcraft - how about hearbal health and hhealing which is a common one.



Why do people drink ginerale when they're sick? Because ginger relieves naseua. Would you drink willow bark tea for a headache? Or would you take a couple of aspirin? The same active ingredient that relieves aches and pains is found in both. These things can be scientifically proven, so therefore, they are not "delusional".
Mad Hatter
2009-10-07 09:13:39 UTC
So it doesn't make sense to you. That's fine, but have you even bothered to learn anything about it? I only ask because you've gone off about spells and witchcraft (neither of which are exclusive, nor central, to Wicca) but haven't really explained which Wiccan beliefs don't make sense to you. Is it the Rede? The concept of universal balance? The notion of gods? It would be impossible to adequately explain each and every belief and principle in the entire religion (many of which are not universal) and why they make sense, in such a limited space.



The religion is right for me because it fit the beliefs I already held. I didn't feel like I was struggling to force my beliefs to fit within the religion or vice-versa.
LabGrrl
2009-10-06 19:09:46 UTC
Some teenagers who think they are Wiccan ask about 'love spells.'



There is no such critter as a love spell in Wicca.



Dear, there are twice as many hits on Google for "angel" as there are for love spells. I could ask you why all Christians (Or, I suppose, Christianismists) believe that they can attract winged people to guide them....



People who think love spells are a part of the Wiccan religion are like people who think angel candles are part of Christianity.



Sure, you can find 'Wiccan' websites about magic and spells... and you can find Christian ones like this:

http://kimbasangels.com/intromagi.html



The moral? Every religion has marketing geared for teens and the ignorant.



Edit: We can't answer your question to your satisfaction because your question asserts a nonsensical definition of Wicca. YES, IF WICCA WAS as you DESCRIBE, then it would not make sense, but since IT IS NOT as you describe, it does make sense.



Admit it, you don't want answers do you? You just want people to agree with your silliness.
2009-10-06 18:57:26 UTC
Eh most of those people posting spell begging questions have never bothered to actually study Wicca as a religion. A person can practice the religion of Wicca and not practice magic at all, if they wanted to.



Sides, magic ritual is more or less psycho-drama, its a way to get your mind into a certain frame and to focus your will.
2009-10-07 09:56:33 UTC
You don't have to be Wiccan. If Wicca makes sense to you, become Wiccan. If something else makes sense, do that. Wiccans don't evangelize, nor do we Pagans believe we need to make everyone in the world believe the same as we do. Diversity is the rule. Who are you to judge what beliefs work for another person?
Uncle Tim
2009-10-07 08:56:55 UTC
You've got some good answers here already. Labgirl's for instance, and the one that quotes Margot Adler. I don't have much to add other than suggest that you read Margot Adler's book to get a feel for who Wiccans (and pagans in general) are. We're not the crackpots you seem to feel we are. As has already been stated, those who ask after love spells tend to be teenagers who really are not Wiccan.
Ma'iingan
2009-10-07 06:04:19 UTC
Whether or not Wicca makes sense to you or not is not our problem. It's yours. If you believe it to be nothing more than nonsense, then that's your opinion. Nothing anyone is going to say is going to change your mind as your mind is already made up. You're just looking for someone to confirm your opinion, and you're not going to get it from those who believe AND practice Wicca.



And there is no such word as "Wiccanism". Check your dictionary.
Kharm
2009-10-07 14:12:16 UTC
It make no more and no less sense than any other religion. That's just the way religions are.



I mean really, people rising from the dead?
2009-10-04 14:31:00 UTC
"We are not evil. We don't harm or seduce people. We are not dangerous. We are ordinary people like you. We have families, jobs, hopes, and dreams. We are not a cult. This religion is not a joke. We are not what you think we are from looking at T.V. We are real. We laugh, we cry. We are serious. We have a sense of humor. You don't have to be afraid of us. We don't want to convert you. And please don't try to convert us. Just give us the same right we give you--to live in peace. We are much more similar to you than you think." Margot Adler
Phyrekiss
2009-10-07 17:09:57 UTC
It does not make sense to you becuase you do not understand it. Its just like anything else.





Atomic Radiation doesn't make any sense to me, neither does Rocket Science, but that doesn't mean it doesnt have any real validity.



People always reject and fear what they dont understand.



maybe you should study on it a bit before you critisize.
Kosher Ninja Chick JPA
2009-10-04 14:31:09 UTC
Wicca is a religion.



I've starred for my Pagan friends and contacts.
Γνῶθι σεαυτόν
2009-10-07 09:23:32 UTC
How does your question make sense? ..Not wasting my time on it.



.fail.


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