Ok, there are 3 persons that are gods separately(THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PERSONS);but there are not 3 gods but 1?

Question

Correct me if i am wrong with any of the following assumptions of the Trinity:

1) God is a triune god (made up of 3 SEPARATE components, that are NOT dependent on each other).

2) Each of the 3 components ARE gods separately, and act by their OWN will. Then how is Christianity not polytheistic? If 1/3rd of the godhead is not god separately; and only when all 3 godheads meet do we have a god, then Christianity is monotheistic.

3) God is indivisible and eternal. Then why did the son die when he was human, assuming he was god then? If the son wasnt god on this earth, then there were only 2 out of the 3 components in function then.

The definition of god is that it can do EVERYTHING. Son is for salvation but the Father isnt. Son doesnt have the knowledge of the Father. Meaning the Father and Son cant do everything by themselves, so they are NOT god SEPARATELY.

Answer 1

Sorry to tell you, you have a cesar salad in your head...Look at this:



* God is a triune god (made up of 3 SEPARATE components, = (Mr 12:29) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:



* that are NOT dependent on each other). = (Pr 8:24) When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

The Son of God was created by Yahweh Himself. He HAD a beguinning.



* Then why did the son die when he was human, assuming he was god then = (Lu 4:41) And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.

He was THE SON OF GOD, and He was not killed by the romans or the jews; He DELIVERED his spirit, voluntarily. No one could have killed the Son of God, are you kidding? Read this Psalm and think about the characters...

(Zec 13:7) ¶ Awake, O sword, against MY SHEPPERD, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered...



The trinity was an idea collected by Agustine - a monk of the 3rd century - that had been around the block for another million years...The Hindus have a "trinity" also, with Shiva, Brahama and Vishnu, controlling some 330.000 deities...There is nothing new under the Sun. These ideas have come to mankind through the teachings of fallen angels mixing themselves with mankind against God designated purpose for them, and man has copied, taught and perverted all these things because some sound "exotic". God is Not a trinity. Water is not a "duality" of Hidrogen and Oxygen: it's water, made with O2 and H. That's all. The Holy Spirit is just that: Holy Spirit of God. It does whatever it is sent to do. It existed for ever, because it is part of God Himself.

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Answer 2

The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to adequately explain it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are, therefore we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean it is not true or not based on the teachings of the Bible.



Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word "Trinity" is not used in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God, the fact that there are three coexistent, co-eternal persons that make up God. Understand that this is NOT in any way suggesting three Gods. The Trinity is one God made up of three persons. There is nothing wrong with using the term "Trinity" even though the word is not found in the Bible. It is shorter to say the word "Trinity" than to say "three coexistent, co-eternal persons making up one God." If this presents a problem to you, consider this: the word grandfather is not used in the Bible either. Yet, we know there were grandfathers in the Bible. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. What should be of real importance is that the concept that is represented by the word "Trinity" does exist in Scripture. With the introduction out of the way, Bible verses will be given in discussion of the Trinity.



1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.



2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is without question. In English, we only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms—definitely more than two—and must be referring to three or more, in this case Father, Son, Holy Spirit.



In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct persons in the Trinity.



3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, "LORD" is distinguished from "Lord" (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from "God" (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament John 14:16-17, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity—the Father.



4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16. (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).



5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.



6) The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things.



The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the foll

Answer 3

Father is God, Son is God, Holy Spirit is God.

Father is not Son. Son is not Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit is not Father.

Father has authority. He commands the Son and Spirit. Son and Spirit both do what the Father commands.

They are intrinsically close. Like if my arm had a personality and I loved it. I would use it for things. It does things that I tell it to do (sure it has to because it's my arm, but ignore that). It knows only what I tell it. It doesn't have access to my brain. Yes, it's a part of me. Yes, it's a different personality. No, it doesn't know exactly when I intend to use it.

Answer 4

Think of it like this. Say there are 3 coffee cups, which are exactly identical in every way possible; down to the molecular structure. And in those cups there is the same exact type of coffee. Each cup is filled with the exact same coffee, to the exact same point in volume of the cup. So basically, everything is the same. No cup is different from each other; they are all equal. This is like The Trinity. Each one is a different being with their own will, but each one of them is the same. They are all God. God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit. It's hard to understand with our human brains. Hope this helps! :)



-Frequenxy

Answer 5

I think you have too much time on your hands.



The Bible also states emphatically in many places that when a man and a woman join in marriage, they become one flesh.



There are is not a single flesh but two different people. So I guess you have to come out of your hole at some point and realize that there might be a slightly different meaning than the legalistic one you're trying to foistt on us.

Answer 6

You have a nose, ears, and a mouth... but one face



Another way to look at it:



We are all made up of mind, body, and spirit, right?



The Father - God's mind

Christ - God's body

The Holy Spirit - God's spirit



Another way to look at it:



Water, ice, and steam are all water.

Answer 7

You are absolutely right to refer them as 3 separate beings but it's not right to say 3 gods. God is only one.



1. God the Supreme Father is the Father of all souls/spirits. He is without human form or we can say incorporeal. He is also known as Light / Jothi / Nur,etc. God is the standard of all goodness / virtues / powers / wisdom, etc. God belongs to all religion and all people (even to free thinkers, atheists or non-believers) even though some religion claim that only those in that religion get salvaged by God. God is the primordial energy and that's why some scriptures claim that God has created us humans out of his Image or perfection. God is not bound by religion or any human belief system. God loves all the souls for He is the Spiritual Mother and Father of all spirits. So fear not of God for He is the Redeemer and Uplifter of all human souls.



2. Jesus is known as the son of God. Likewise, we are all children of one God. Jesus is like our own brother. He played a unique part in this drama and we are all unique in our own way.



3. Christ is the holy spirit/soul which entered the body of Jesus to play its part. In fact there are two souls in the body of Jesus, one of his own and the other is Christ. Upon entering the body of Jesus, Christ started performing miracles and started giving sermons. Otherwise, Jesus was an ordinary carpenter's son. Christ is not God for he used to pray "Our Father in Heaven..." Christ loved God the Father so much. Would God pray to God?



It is also believed Christ left the body Jesus at the time he was being detained by the Jews at Gethsemane. Being overwhelmed by this sudden loss of power and pain and sufferings of crucifixion and humiliation Jesus cried out lout "Why have you forsaken me oh God (Eli)?" before his last breath!

Answer 8

I see a lot of answers like devin09osu's opening answer. We can't fully understand God. But God demands accurate knowledge! So how can that answer be right, or how can the trinity be right if it leans on not being able to understand in order to understand it.



(Ephesians 1:16-18) 16 do not cease giving thanks for YOU. I continue mentioning YOU in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give YOU a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him; 18 the eyes of YOUR heart having been enlightened, that YOU may know what is the hope to which he called YOU, what the glorious riches are which he holds as an inheritance for the holy ones,



(Philippians 1:9) 9 And this is what I continue praying, that YOUR love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment;



(Colossians 1:9-10) 9 That is also why we, from the day we heard [of it], have not ceased praying for YOU and asking that YOU may be filled with the accurate knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual comprehension, 10 in order to walk worthily of Jehovah to the end of fully pleasing [him] as YOU go on bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the accurate knowledge of God,



(1 Timothy 2:4-5) 4 whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,



(Philippians 1:9) 9 And this is what I continue praying, that YOUR love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment;



(1 Timothy 2:3-5) 3 This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4 whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,



(John 17:3) 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.



Sounds like God really wants us to know Him very good to me. Why would He then shroud His most important part of Himself away from us?



Well I hope you get the point, I just don't see how accurately knowing God and the trinity go together.



I can't believe this even if I tried.

Answer 9

3 in one: with different functions. Example: Lets take a man who is a Son, a Father, and a Grandfather, but, still one person having different titles or functions???

Answer 10

Read Athanasian (400 A.D.) creed of the Church councils. One God in three persons with same matter and substance.

Answer 11

My religion teaches that they are 3 separate and individual beings. We don't believe in the trinity.

Answer 12

The Nicene councils Creed explains that. they changed the wording from the original Apostles Creed.

Answer 13

In the movie "Religulous" the Christ character explains it this way.



Water can be:

water

steam

ice



They all do different things, but they're still water.

Answer 14

three entities but one God



one in thought one in purpose and one in holiness