C'mon Evolution... Wheres your grip?

Question

The sun's diameter is shrinking at the rate of five feet per hour. At this rate, life could not have existed on the earth 100,000 years ago.


The spin rate of the earth is slowing .00002 second per year. If the earth were the billions of years old that the evolutionists say it is, the centrifugal force would have notably deformed the earth.
 

Answer 1

Exactly , Obviously, the evidences for Evolution is obtained through an / a philosophical & Ideological bias, One just has to see the answers posted here by Atheist to see that with their lying Evolution Web sites and pseudo-Science they employ.



What is tragic is that many Christians (and I use that word Christian loosely) are succumbing to worldly pressure to adjust their theology to “Make it Fit”

For it is Written “ 2 Timothy 4:3-4 (NKJV) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, [because] they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn [their] ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.



These Christians do not know just HOW That effects Their theology

How a Christian views Creation has a profound effect on that.

How do beliefs about creation impact the rest of theology?

http://www.gotquestions.org/creation-theology-beliefs.html



Why is Biblical Creationism so important?

http://www.gotquestions.org/biblical-creationism.html



The Gospel—Evidence for Creation

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v11/n1/gospel



Many secular and atheist groups mock Creation Science and Christians for not being scientific. However, some of the most influential scientists past and present have been and are creationists



Some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/



A Good read that explains the Bias against Creation is here



The Battle for the Beginning

By: John MacArthur

http://www.christianbook.com/the-battle-for-the-beginning/john-macarthur/9780785271598/pd/71597?event=AFF&p=1011693&



The Case For The Creator

The Case for the Creator is a deep look into the evidence for Intelligent design. "My road to atheism was paved by science... but, ironically, so was my later journey to God." -Lee Strobel

http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=FJ0J0JNU



http://www.answersingenesis.org/



http://www.icr.org/



Darwin's Deadly Legacy (1 of 7)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxXICZ9mXo

Answer 2

Hard to know where to start !



1. The suns diameter is not shrinking! In 1987, several astronomers from Paris Observatory made an announcement that solar eclipse data from 1666 to 1719 showed that the Sun was 2000 kilometers larger than it is today. This amounts to a 0.3 percent reduction, seemed to be more than coincidental. However, this data was found to contain an error regarding the 1715 solar eclipse path of totality. Consequently, the Sun was the same size in 1716 as it is today, and astronomers were reassured

In any case, the sun, as with all starts goes through life cycles and burns fuel at different rates (obviously!).



2. There is no such things as "centrifugal force", but we can put the aside for now.

The 'spin rate' as you call it - is slowing. A slowing rotation does not suggest cause for any deformation! What makes you think that would happen?? The Earth is not round, it is slightly oval at the equator due to it's spinning motion.



3. Both of your points are incorrect scientifically. However, further to that, ask your self this - you are quoting data "the sun is shrinking at 5 feet an hour", "the earth is slowing Xseconds per year", this data, has been made available to you by applying science to the world around you.

The difference between Science and Religion is that science seeks the truth without an agenda. It does not ask the world to behave how it wants to see it. By attempting to use scientific data to disprove the effectiveness of science you are shooting your self in the foot!

The same fundamental methods of reasoning and logic that produce the data you are quoting, produce the theory of evolution.



Be curious about the world, ask questions, and seek to understand why things are for yourself! It's good to ask the question, but often when you think a result does not make sense, it is because you do not understand it - not because it is wrong!

Answer 3

Oh, that must explain why the earth is so noticeably deformed. Or didn't you know that it's a bit wider around the equator?



Even if that shrinkage of the sun had been constant at that same rate for the whole 100,000 years, the distance from the earth to the sun's surface would have change by less than 1% in that time.

Answer 4

And this is why "young earth creationists" are routinely dismisses as ignorant and dishonest.



The sun's diameter is *not* shrinking at the rate of five feet per hour. That's a flat-out lie.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/dave_matson/young-earth/specific_arguments/sun_shrinking.html



Your second argument is also both dishonest and incredibly ignorant:



http://novan.com/earth.htm



By the way, centrifugal force *does* "deform" the earth -- that's why we don't live on a spherical planet, we live on an oblate spheroid that bulges at the equator.



You just demonstrated your personal dishonesty and ignorance. Well done. You must be so proud.

Answer 5

The mystery's of faith an GOD are beyond human comprehension

Faith concerns questions which cannot be settled by evidence.





I think it's very sad that if someone does not have faith they would want others to agree with them!



How can the universe create itself out of nothingness? Given the fact that the universe began to exist, it must have had a “cause” that originated it.Doesn't it make more sense to assume the existence of a Creation. The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that GOD came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, GOD is not in the category of things that are created or caused. GOD is uncaused and uncreated—He simply exists.

We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing being is what we call GOD ,GOD is the un-caused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it.



The universe requires a cause because it had a beginning, GOD unlike the universe, had no beginning, so he doesn’t need a cause. Einstein’s theory of general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space. Since GOD is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created..@





Life without GOD is like an un- sharpened pencil it has no point..

You can't see the wind, but you know it is there because you can see what the wind is doing. You can know that the wind is there because you can feel it.GOD is like the wind, you can't see him

Answer 6

What makes you think the rate of change of sun diameter is constant?



What makes you think the rate of change of spin of the earth is constant?



Do you know the first thing about science?



REAL scientists have worked all this out and know that the earth is nearly 5 billion years old, everything adds up just fine. If you disagree, why not submit a scientific paper for peer review and prove everyone wrong?

Answer 7

Are you referring to the Kelvin–Helmholtz mechanism, that was wrong see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin%E2%80%93Helmholtz_mechanism



Blunder number two is the unwarranted assumption that the rate of shrinkage reported by Eddy and Boornazian is an established fact. Far from it! The rate of shrinkage was published as an abstract to further scientific discussion, not as a polished paper. Certain creationists nevertheless pounced upon it as though it were the Holy Grail. Before long, serious flaws in its methodology turned up and the data has since been discredited; http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-yea.html



The spin rate of the earth is slowing, Stop getting bad info from creationist sites, they are lining to you, isn't that a sin?

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE011.html

Answer 8

The sun isn't shrinking. Except on creationist websites. We would have noticed. Certainly not at 5 feet per hour.

The earth is an oblate spheroid, so yes it has been deformed by rotation, the poles are flatter and the equator bulges. We've noticed. What stuns me is that you haven't.

Answer 9

There is no evidence for continuous shrinking of the sun.



If you think your second claim is correct then please supply the maths that supports it (with all workings). First step would be to show that the slowing rate you use is constant (its not). You do realise that the Earth is measurably deformed?



Finally, such stupid statements are nothing to do with evolution, you should address them to Cosmologists and Geologists respectively.

Answer 10

Yes, then sun transforms some of it mass into energy. A part of that energy reaches us, we call it sun shine. This loss of mass does not result in a constant decrease of diameter.



Evolution still happens. Which part of evolution seems dubios to you?

Answer 11

So the equatorial bulge does not exist then, because you said so. Sometimes I can understand why some species eat their young.

Answer 12

The sun is not bloody shrinking. Where do loons get this crap?

Answer 13

and yes, there's nothing but LINEAR REGRESSION everywhere in the universe.



linear regression is description of a stable trend in change of a variable through time. ever heard of parabole?



http://onlinestatbook.com/2/regression/intro.html

Answer 14

Nothing you say holds up to scientific examination. And you're too lazy and ignorant to even cite your reference.

Answer 15

Be very aware of the stage.

All the major faiths give reference to being dead/blind/asleep.

The lies on stage are conducive to mentally leading people away from God. A less spiritual realm of carnal pursuits, objectified truths whilst identified and confounded with the psychophysical organism.

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If we evolved over hundreds of thousands of years, (General estimate – 200,000), why does the story keep changing?

Man found in Palastine 400,000 years ago.

http://gizadeathstar.com/2012/02/man-in-palestine-400000-years-ago/



Also, in equivalent and relevant terms of time, why have we technologically evolved over the equivalent to 5 days?



HERE'S THE MATHS!

Lets say 30 years for modern technology.

So: 30 years Multiplied by 10 Divided by 400,000 years = 0.00075

So 30 years is 0.00075% of 400,000 years



Now 365 days in a year Multiplied by 400,000 = 146000000 Days.

0.00075 Divided by 146000000 = 5.1 Days.



So in equivalent and relevant terms of time, we have technologically evolved in the last 5 Days.



Yet:



In Lebanon - The ruins of Baalbek, according to Arabs said to have been built by a tribe of Giants for the Biblical King Nimrod consists of rocks no modern Crain can lift today.

The history of settlement in the area of Baalbek dates back about 9,000 years.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i395/AbAeterno123/baalbek_9_zpsdd453079.jpg

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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Albert Einstein.



"Nothing is as it seems. Nor is it otherwise."

Lankavatara Sutra - Mahāyāna Buddhism



There is no greater mystery than this; that being the reality we seek to gain reality.

Sri Ramana Maharshi (December 30, 1879 – April 14, 1950)



The universe is endlessly going through creation and dissolution. But that does not affect the Self. The Self is beyond time and causation. Creation and dissolution are in time. In reality nothing else exists. ASTAVAKRA SAMHITA – Chapter XV - P98

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Answer 16

Please, you intelligence is showing or more correctly your lack of it. Get a book and read it, other than the fairy tales you must read now.

Answer 17

hahahahahahaha



Oh boy, you people just crack me up.

Answer 18

You are right...



Those millions of fossils are ALL fakes!