For Atheists, would you be mad if life was just a Simulation and everything you've ever felt just an Illusion?

Question

For Atheists, would you be mad if life was just a Simulation and everything you've ever felt just an Illusion?

Answer 1

Human perception actually is a simulation, created within our subjective mind by our own living brain. ...and no, I'm not "mad" about it because I have enough education to correctly imagine the objective physical realm people cannot properly understand without resorting to physical laws and mathematics. It is the business of scientists and engineers to correctly understand the objective physical reality which exists independently of our subjective perceptions.



Sadly, thanks to Aristotle and the early Roman Catholics it has become the business of organized religion to confuse the issue by erroneously pretending human subjective perceptions are the basis of reality.

Answer 2

We don’t care.



But until there is solid evidence, it’s just as fantastical as your god.

Answer 3

No. Even if this is all not real, I have no choice but to act like it is in order to accomplish anything. I would certainly be intrigued by this revelation, but it wouldn't make me angry. I'd just be hungry to know more about the simulation -- why it exists, who created such a simulation, in what ways can the simulation be exploited to improve my experience, etc.

Answer 4

What a GREAT idea for a film!



You could get some boatmaker's supplies, and do it as a puppet show, starring Canoe Reefs

Answer 5

For " Atheist " would you be "MAD" ... ( here it comes the HYPOTHETICAL ) "IF" LIFE was a "SIMULATION" and every "THING" you have ever "FELT" just an "ILLUSION" .... we have the word ILLUSION for a REASON .. it describes the ability to have FALSE associations related to perception . which deals with HUMAN SENSES VISION HEARING TOUCH SMELL AND TASTE we use them collectively and investigation indicates if one or more senses is altered in feed back or evaluation of stimuli



If my hearing is in DECLINE when people are speaking i may not hear the words clearly when they say SKUNK i might hear DRUNK .



. the question presents a lot of "SUBJECTS " I will begin with the lack of SPECIFIC as in the word salad every "THING" you have ever "FELT " is that FELT as in EMOTIONS or FELT as in "TOUCH" THINGS meaning OBJECTS . that have MASS and can be demonstrated and have Confirmation



.... SIMULATION defined as IMITATION or ENACTMENT .... comes from the word SIMILAR meaning "LIKE" implying that it had to be BASED on that which is already KNOWN to COPY it



...as in from an ORIGINAL according to Wikipedia SIMULATION is a imitation of the operation of a REAL world process or system the KEY issues in SIMULATIONS include acquisition of VALID source INFORMATION about the relevant selection of KEY characteristics and Behaviors



" LIFE" is the quality that DISTINGUISHES a VITAL and functioning plant or animal from a DEAD BODY or from INORGANIC matter ..including the capacity for growth reproduction functional ACTIVITY and continual change preceding death



next subject " MAD" I suspect one means the EMOTION of ANGER ... psychologically ANGER is an EMOTION characterized by antagonism



( wait for it this is the big CLUE ) toward "SOMEONE" or SOMETHING " you "FEEL" ( i prefer the term have IDENTIFIED ) to have DELIBERATELY Done you WRONG . lets try again with specifics WHO or WHAT would be the specific IDENTIFIED " AGENT" i would be directing an emotion of anger AT .



.. if one wanted to ask SUPERNATURAL PROPOSITION / proposal Question ( God spirits demons devil ) one did not need go the round about way ..



... IDENTIFY one specific SIMULATOR producer in ones HYPOTHETICAL .



.. wait isn't that what THEIST do present a HYPOTHETICAL



a supernatural proposition or Proposal of a CREATOR GOD CONTROLLING ALL .. that they FAIL to DEMONSTRATE to be the case ..



. lets try again EXIST ... is not DEPENDENT on mere human assertion



EXIST would be independent of mere human ASSERTION ( assertions being Claims ) and SELF EVIDENT ...



. I need not ASSERT i have a companion a dog .... now if you saw a chain in the yard and a small house and a food an water bowl one might CONCLUDE i have a dog .



.. all of that does not CONFIRM i have a dog or the dog EXIST



.. THE INDEPENDENT SELF EVIDENT DOG confirms it EXIST



one needs a DICTIONARY to address the UPDATE Quote the CLAIM Atheist will "BELIEVE" ANYTHING ( i suspect one means a CLAIM PROPOSITION or ASSERTION ) WITHOUT evidence AS long as the CONCLUSION is " NOT GOD DID IT " ...



.. BELIEF is a persons CONVICTION of the truth of a PROPOSITION or ALLEGATION WITHOUT DIRECT KNOWLEDGE ...



the word ATHEIST only addresses a SINGLE PROPOSITION ...( GODS ) but RELIGION has MULTIPLE supernatural proportions or PROPOSAL ..



.. NON RELIGIOUS ATHEIST ( a religious atheist would be a Buddhist do not promote a " god " but do promote " DEMONS " and DUALISM the proposition that the Mind and body BOTH exist as SEPARATE ' ENTITIES " ( ie souls spirits reincarnation rebirth ) also found in many Theist religions



Most NON RELIGIOUS PEOPLE who are Atheist are CRITICAL THINKERS



.. they QUESTION and VALUE EVIDENCE . DEMONSTRATION and DIRECT knowledge .. if you can IDENTIFY what one may call a " BELIEF" I hold ( that which is not based on DIRECT Knowledge .) .. i will STOP accepting it as To be the case . I accept that which is Demonstrated .... and assertion stops being a PROPOSITION or proposal when it is demonstrated To Be the case



NOT having DIRECT KNOWLEDGE is part of the definition of BELIEF ...



.. ones WORD salad is CONTRADICTING meaning ignorant of the definition of Belief as well as the definition of atheist .. Atheist is the " LACK of BELIEF " in a single supernatural proposition

Answer 6

To answer your question, no. I wouldn't be mad, but more surprised to find out that the reality I perceive is only an artificial reality generated by an outside reality. But as far as my life goes it wouldn't make any difference because reality or illusion/simulation, I can only perceive it as my reality and have to deal with it just the same.



To respond to your comment, no, atheists do not believe in anything without evidence. That is faith by definition, which is a tenet of all religions because of how gullible some people are. Atheists reject the claim that there is a god because there is NO evidence for it. And further, atheists overall are skeptics and reject all other claims when there is no evidence and no reason to believe it. Why is it theists always project their own character flaws onto atheists when those characteristics don't apply to atheists at all and apply fully to theists? It's the "I know you are but what am I?" method of debate and is really very childish. And when your choices are "here are the scientific explanations for the origins of the universe, Earth, life, and the diversity of life and all the verified data from all the observations and experimentation to back it up" or "everything was made by an infinitely big, infinitely powerful invisible man in the sky who watches everything you do at all times, but you can never see him, hear him, or detect him in any way", and you choose the invisible man in the sky to believe in, how stupid is that? A person that gullible would fall for anything.

Answer 7

Whatever this reality is... it is the only reality I am aware of, and it isn't like I could swap it out for another anyway.

Answer 8

In all honesty...I'd think the atheists would be thrilled.

Answer 9

Why would atheists care one way or another, vs. theists? If anything it would be atheists best equipped to deal with this reality than anybody else, as they have no assumptions about what life is.

Answer 10

It may be, I'm not mad, my life is still the same.

Answer 11

why would I care?



Seen the film "the matrix"? -



which life would you prefer - the real one? - or the fake one generated in the matrix?

Answer 12

no

we wouldn't know

Answer 13

I suppose I'd be glad that I took the red pill and found out, Toilet Baby.



Update: No, as an aspiring rationalist, I would not believe in anything with no evidence.

Answer 14

Depends on how good the illusions were.

Answer 15

Mad? No. That would be consistent with the non-existence of God. And if I cease to exist because the game is over or because I died, I'll never know the difference.

Answer 16

The idea that life is just one big sims game actually gives me hope

Answer 17

If proof existed that the world was just a simulation' then this would disprove a god, meaning atheists were right and theists were wrong why would that make them mad

Answer 18

Stop basing your view of others on your sad Christian fantasy!

Answer 19

A person can battle atheism and the other errors of Russia using the rosary and fasting.

Answer 20

Probably, but I bet Christians would be mad too.

Answer 21

I can't see any point in being mad,

if that were the case.

I am happy to experience life,

as I find it.



I thought theists are the ones who believe

that some hypothetical God

spoke reality into existence

(created this simulation)

and watches it, for its own amusement.



That said, I would be interested to know

if reality is just a simulation.

I watch for the tell-tale signs.

But I haven't seen them, yet.



An example of such signs

is displayed in the Matrix movie,

when the helicopter

slams into the side

of a glass covered sky scraper.

Did you catch it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E3JDtqHaVM

--

Regards,



John Popelish

Answer 22

It would make no difference, because no one can say what matter/energy IS. It's all mathematics. Nothing fake could be any less "real".

Answer 23

No, experiences are the only thing of any real value, having experiences is the point of existing, I don't care what framework supports me to do that



The map of reality we build in our head very much is an illusion anyway, or at least a subjective interpretation of small elements of something more vast and complex than we could ever fully comprehend

Answer 24

We are part of this illusion, so - we have to follow the rules..but we can decide what to learn to get aware about the truth or stay with a fake-book and remain unknowing.

Answer 25

Even if what I am experiencing is a simulation, it is what I consider and call my reality.



It would do no good to get angry about something that I was so impossibly able to have any control over.

Answer 26

This isn't the Matrix

Answer 27

Not really.

I'd see no reason to be angry about that unless I emerged from it and discovered that the simulation had a nefarious purpose.

But until I know thats the case, why be angry about something like that?



Also, if I'm just part of the simulation, then why would it matter? This is my life. Whether simulated or not, this is the place and the reality in which I exist. Were it not for the existence of the simulation I would not have had a chance to exist. So I can;t be angry about that either.