Question:
If you could reason with religious people, would there still be any religious people?
2018-05-02 05:30:28 UTC
I've noticed religious people rely on emotion and faith to the exclusion of everything else such as rational thought. If they could be reasoned with like other intelligent thinking individuals then they would realise magic is nonsense and be Atheists like everyone else who is actually sane right. I feel sorry for them but if they can't figure out such a simple thing by themselves then I suspect most of them are beyond help and will continue talking to their imaginary friends their whole lives. A pity there isn't a pill which can cure them of their mental condition. I've read that the worst cases often have lesions on the frontal cortex causing their malady. Maybe one day we can fix these broken people. So sad.

Atheists are smarter.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/athiests-religious-people-intelligence-smarter-study-imperial-college-london-a8183131.html

Study Finds Link Between Brain Damage and Religious Fundamentalism.
http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/study-finds-link-between-brain-damage-and-religious-fundamentalism

Majority of British now non-religious.
https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21728600-only-15-call-themselves-anglicans-dont-bet-church-losing-its-official-role-any-time
22 answers:
2018-05-07 23:50:20 UTC
still be any religious people? Gov't iskilling you with highfrequencyelectricity. Theotokos Virgin Mary gave prayers to "Schema-nun Antonia" on how to save aborted babies from hell. If you pray these prayers diligently, aborted babies are released from hell. On each painted nail there are 40 demons. Smoking is censer to the devil.Using foul language calls upon Pagan deities (aka demons); Holy Spirit departs on 7 meters. People who use drugs see demons who cleverly disguise themselves as ghosts and aliens.America will be last country to switch to Euro (antichrist's world currency). Contraceptives = abortion;using contraceptives for 1 year = 5 aborted kids.Miscarriages happen because of high heels; cesarean because of tight pants (second generation cesarean will be infertile).Unbaptized aborted/miscarried/unborn babies burn in hell for until Final Judgement; if pregnant, keep the kid and deliver at home because kids are chipped using IVs and vaccines in hospitals. Dentists and doctors chip patients secretly. Ultrasound leads to mark of the beast; don't do ultrasound, please. Abortion leads to breast cancer; a demon is released from hell for each aborted kid. Dogs can become possessed; don't keep dogs inside your home [Pelageya of Ryazan]. Walmart has technology to administer mark of the beast to those who have cat bacteria in their stomachs; stay away from cats [Afanasiy Sidyachiy]. Next false flag is the Statue of Liberty. Above earth there is ice (hemisphere); when rockets go up they bring ice down from upper sky to lower sky; ice stuck in lower sky will fall on us during Apocalypse. Earth is flat; earth stands on 3 pillars (the Most Holy Trinity); pillars stand on water at zero Kelvin; underneath this ice there is a bubble; and then the abyss. Zodiac is planetary prison of demons; don't believe in horoscopes or you'll exhibit the traits of the trapped demons. Most thoughts and dreams are from demons; demons never do good. Sleep fully clothed; pray the Jesus prayer. Pray to your guardian angel to have normal sleep. Vyacheslav Krasheninnikov was the last prophet before Apostle John (who wrote the Book of Revelation), Enoch, Elijah, resurrected Seraphim of Sarov, and resurrected Sergius of Radonezh will preach against the antichrist. Humans were created about 7525 years ago. Birds participate in time creation. It's a sin to kill birds. Dinosaurs live under our level; they will get out through sinkholes and lakes; to kill them, go for their nerves. Save the birds; but kill the dinosaurs. First dinosaur will come out of Volga River in Russia. Scientists don't see dinosaurs under our level because of radiation. Sinkholes happen because people dig for resources underground and because earth is heating up. Demons grow human skin (from a sample taken during abduction) and put it on so as to look like us. Demons will invite people to be healed inside their UFOs; those who go will be like zombies after. Gov't provides demons with diamonds and allows demons to abduct people. If you're being abducted, slowly pray the Jesus prayer. Don't panic. Demons use diamonds and souls to power their UFO craft. The bigger the diamond, the more it lasts. Demons have 4 UFO bases: 1)moon 2)inside fake mountain Kailash in Tibet 3)in lake Baikal in Russia 4)in Atlantis which is underneath the Mariana Trench in Pacific Ocean. There are no aliens. Nobody lives on other planets. Airplanes that go down are hit by demons because they need the airspace to fight Jesus. Antichrist is pale with red eyes. He's possessed by Satan since he's 12 years old [Lavrentiy Chernigovskiy]. He flies super fast; deceived people will say: "Christ is here; Christ is there" when he's flying from one city to the next very fast. He wears gloves to hide long nails. He's surrounded by demons who appear as angels of light. Antichrist will trick people that he can do mountain moving and resurrection using holograms/hypnosis; fire from the sky is real because of pollution gases in the atmosphere. Antichrist will have food only for 6 months; then he will feed his 666ed people flour from mashed up turtles (Tavrion Batozskiy), but this won't be enough because 666ed people are 10 times as angry and 7 times as hungry as normal people even though 666ed people became shorter (3-4 feet tall = 80 - 120 cm) because nanochips do function of organs (organs diminish) [Nilus Myrrhgusher]. If you have a lot of nanochips in your forearm, then you will not be able to make proper Orthodox sign of the cross (last mercy for you will be to cut your forearm off). Nanochips are sprayed by the gov't using chemtrails; they're also in gov't food and medicine; so, eat food from your own garden. In case garden is destroyed by ice from the sky, have chickens for eggs and goats for milk (Paisios). Lipstick contains cells of aborted fetuses, dog fat, and placenta; human flesh is in McDonalds, Pepsi, toothpaste, antiaging, anticancer, vaccines, perfume, etc.; that's why you should not be using anything that modern society has to offer. You're better off hiding within a 10-12 people group in order to escape Apocalypse. During Apocalypse, Chrtistians will eat dirt from under pussywillowtree as it's filled with tears of Theotokos Virgin Mary; this water will flee if a 666ed person tries to get it. Barcode is Druid black magic curse; QRcode is Mayan curse; when food is scanned, it becomes dead because laser is a substance from demons. Don't go into a UFO to be healed by demons. Green 666 is given by isotope rays on wrist or forehead when people stretch hands to receive small plastic grey card with no name on it (World Passport). It doesn't just have to be during this procedure (could be anything you sign up for or anywhere where there is a secret scanner); biometrics (fingerprints, eyes scan) or getting picture for passport are very dangerous because they could mark you secretly. Gabriel Urgebadze said that they do it on index finger when they scan your finger. Basically, try to avoid new documents at all cost. Police will microchip and isotope ray people on highways. Chipped people will be influenced by computers to take grey plastic card; but when they do, green mark by isotope rays is given on forehead/wrist. Food stores will isotope ray people too. Antichrist will also release prisoners to mark people. Reject 666 at all cost because it leads to permanent hell. If you're about to be marked, pray the Jesus prayer. Hide with Orthodox Christians to escape 666; leave all electronics behind so that antichrist's minions can't track you; burn documents because they're from Satan. The Most Holy Trinity gives you a name during baptism; devil gives an antiname during antibaptism (ex. Social Security Number). People who die with these Satanic documents go to concentration camp in hell to await Final Judgement; once the BEAST Computer is burned down, souls will be released for Final Judgement. That's why you should give back documents of your deceased relatives back to the gov't so that the gov't cancels these digital antichristian names given during antibaptism by the beast system; or just burn these documents because gov't could get upset and could send demons to mark you because of this outright act of defiance. Prophecy from half a millenium ago describes Final Judgement like this: Jesus was very upset with people who had little boards (plastic cards) in their hands because they wanted discount from the antichrist. Give to charity in the name of Archangel Michael; he rescues people from temporary hell twice a year [at midnight between September 18 and September 19 and similarly on November 20-21; pray at these times on your knees remembering the deceased by names (adding "and relatives by flesh up to Adam") so that they are rescued if they're in hell] (or brings them up a level, that is, to a level with less punishment; eventually, people are freed). Feed the pigeons; when pigeons bow down, people are saved from temporary hell. It's a big sin to remember the dead with wreaths (because demons put these wreaths on their necks if they're in hell with their hands tied up behind their back while hanging by their hands), meat, alcohol, sweets, and worldly music. Demons print icons of saints in newspapers so that you throw these newspapers in the trash blaspheming these saints. Crosses on soles of shoes and back of pants are blasphemy. Demons make carpets with crosses and put them on sidewalks so that people walk on crosses. Playing cards mock how Jesus suffered on the cross: clubs (cross on which Jesus was crucified), diamonds (four nails Jesus was crucified with), hearts (sponge with vinegar that Jesus was given to drink), spades (spear with which Jesus was pierced).Cremation is devil worship; only blasphemers such as Lenin should be burned; if Lenin is buried, earth will be polluted, and China will attack Russia because of this.After China attacks Russia, Ruski Orthodox Tsar (shown by resurrected Seraphim of Sarov) will come to power in Russia;this Tsar will slay traitors inside church and gov't; as a result, Russia will be the only country not under the antichrist.Ecumenism = 263 heresies;each heresy leads to hell. In 2006 in Moscow (that's why Moscow will sink), representatives from most religions signed a document where it says that all religions worship the same Supreme Being [aka the devil]. Priests who participate in ecumenism will have Pagans walking on their heads in hell. Arkhimandrite Antonin Kapustin left a prophecy that John the Baptist's living space will become a church and it will be blessed by forerunner of antichrist; Patriarch Kirill of Russia blessed this church.When priests pray for current gov't (instead of praying for future Tsar), Jesus gets up from His throne and turns His back to them.Forgive me.
2018-05-02 13:56:44 UTC
Religious people do a wonderful job of reasoning that's why they are the majority that's why they have a larger support group that's why they have more money that's why they have nicer cars that's why they have nicer houses that's why their children are better behaved that's why their credit scores are higher that's why their insurance rates are lower that's why for the most part that the police aren't chasing them! . It takes a lot of reasoning skills to become the top of the food chain instead of the bottom like the Bible said you're the head not the tail
Chi girl
2018-05-02 11:42:44 UTC
We could say the same of you.
kswck2
2018-05-02 10:35:58 UTC
That's the problem. You Can't reason with religious people because they hide behind their religion, and just stop listening when they get uncomfortable.
The Ambassador
2018-05-02 08:49:24 UTC
Yet you believe that your very existence stems from a rock.
Campbell Hayden
2018-05-02 08:03:05 UTC
I doubt it,

because the folly of being "saved" .. born "again" .. and, "forgiven" .. has overrun every last bit of their common sense.
antonius
2018-05-02 06:56:57 UTC
The young people are beginning to understand and leaving the nonsense.
Think Different
2018-05-02 05:53:58 UTC
Well if you could reason with them probably not but, as long as they are not forcing their beliefs on others like blue laws, marriage rights, prayer in schools etc. there is no need to. If people want to believe in the super natural that should be their right to do so. There will always be religious people, societies from the beginning of recorded man have proved this. It is not going to change in our lifetime nor even in our grandchildren's. If believing one will live forever brings them comfort what right do we have to take it away?
RoSH
2018-05-02 05:39:41 UTC
I have more education than any atheist I have met. I win every discussion no matter the subject.

1. Astronomy and the odds against the universe even existing discredits almost everything an atheists can say.

2 The odd against a planet providing an environment capable of sustaining evolving life long enough for said life to even be recognizable as life (according to human standards).

3. In a universe so violent that finding a planetary body not pot marked by impacts is nearly impossible.

For one to believe that life evolved from primordial ooze to what we see today is lubricous.

Thanks for the 2 points.....Have a nice day
2018-05-02 05:32:06 UTC
After attempting and failing to reason with TheDreadedWhiteChristianImbecile, I should say not.



-Corvus Blackthorne
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2018-05-03 07:31:30 UTC
No.
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2018-05-02 20:26:08 UTC
No. Religion relies on faith that must be used in place of fact. Therefore it's impossible to have a logical conversation with one of these deluded people.
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2018-05-02 13:05:02 UTC
what a stupid question...excuse me, but you sound like a complete hate-filled moron.



I see no reason, just hate. And I am almost certainly smarter and better educated than you, if you care to go one-on-one.
User
2018-05-02 12:54:58 UTC
"If you could reason with religious people, would there still be any religious people?"

...he or she asked, ironically employing the logical "fallacy of many questions".
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2018-05-02 09:36:50 UTC
Lets be honest. You do not really feel sorry for religious people. This entry is a subtle and deliberate attack on other people, designed to cause anger and contention.
Jonathn
2018-05-02 08:15:19 UTC
What is theology? Does it deserve respect like other branches of studies? Is it merely a bible trivia that imposes established beliefs and never dares question them? No. Theology is a subject that critically questions, confronts, examines, and debates every detail of every religion from every angle. It is not affiliated with any religion. A belief is a choice based on knowledge, reason, or nothing. Many theologians find the gospels to have a strong case of being convincing. That is the REASON that many choose to believe. Why are tbere many Christian based universities, hospitals, and charities? Is it due to lack of reasoning?
2018-05-02 07:08:39 UTC
The two groups are mutually exclusive. Atheists bought every LIE going.

They seem to like lies. Let's them live in fantasy.

They're destroyers.

If atheists are so smart, why all the problems in the world? They tried godless many times, what a mess, the slaughter was enormous, economy plummeted.



Your term 'religious' is far too vague. A supposed smart person shouldn't fall into generalizations.



Let me ask you? Where should crazy people hide? Atheist or religion? Where do they get benefits? Support?

It's all logical.



The greatest percentage of Nobel prize winners are Christians. Google it.

Your view is damaged.
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2018-05-02 07:08:22 UTC
Yep. Because there are plenty of religious people you can, in fact, reason with. There are probably religious people who could hand you your a** in a scientific debate, for example.



Now, if you had restricted your comment to, say, "strict creationists", then... no. Any strict creationist capable of being reasoned with would, well, have all of their little arguments demolished by your average, say, high-school biology student. Pretty soon, they'd either become someone you couldn't reason with, or someone who was no longer a strict creationist (there is a reason I specified strict creationist--"There is a Creator" is not a provably counterfactual claim, but "Genesis is literally true" is)



But for any religious belief that does *not* require accepting something observably counterfactual? You have about as much evidence that some kind of Higher Power doesn't exist as I do that She does. Which is to say... not much beyond guessing and vague "Well, this seems likelier to me" type arguments. So as long as I'm not trying to push my beliefs on you... you can go do something anatomically unlikely with yourself and stay out of my business.
2018-05-02 06:55:39 UTC
That's the difference between religious people and atheists. Because atheists do not accept the concept of religion, they dismiss those that do, as delusional charlatans. Whereas, the religious people that come on here (well, most of them), want to help atheists, not ridicule them.
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2018-05-02 06:16:38 UTC
If you could reason with atheist people, would there still be any atheist people?



I've noticed that atheist people rely on emotion and faith to the exclusion of everything else such as rational thought. If they could be reasoned with like other intelligent thinking individuals then they would realise evolution is nonsense and be atheists like everyone else who is actually sane right. I feel sorry for them but if they can't figure out such a simple thing by themselves then I suspect most of them are beyond help and will continue talking to their imaginary friends their whole lives. A pity there isn't a pill which can cure them of their mental condition. I've read that the worst cases often have lesions on the frontal cortex causing their malady. Maybe one day we can fix these broken people. So sad.
capitalgentleman
2018-05-02 05:56:15 UTC
You certainly have not met many religious people. Did you know, for example, that Logic, and Reason are so vital to Theology that they are taught in seminary? Fully 10% of my courses in fact. Reason is vital to the religious - to say that it isn't goes against reality in a major way.
2018-05-02 05:34:31 UTC
A person can know certainty Catholicism is the One True Faith by reciting daily and with care the angelic psalter of the Virgin Mary.


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