do Atheists think joy and sufference are necessary for life to survive?

Question

i mean if were to create highly intelligent Robots, do I necessarily need to programme them to enjoys and suffer from?..the mechanism of pain is one complicated intelligence example..same goes for happiness..why would you think Evolution and Natural selection had species with these instincts to only survive..also why there are no other variables of these intelligent mechanisms..

if I return to the Robots example, I can simply create Robots Programmed that they:

A-can enjoy and suffers (normal live humans)

B-can only suffers never enjoys

C-doesnt have these instincts at all

or i can also go for the extreme

D- enjoys pain and suffers from happiness

E-enjoys pain

F-suffers from happiness

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Now each of these are probable result of long sequences of accidents, which suggests the other models have to be present as probable models created through random accidents,so why dont we find the other models of intelligent awareness present in humans and Mammals?

Dont you think that Joy and Happiness were deliberately programmed in us to fit in the Hell vs Heaven Formula?..

Answer 1

"The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.



Unfortunately this Electric Monk had developed a fault, and had started to believe all kinds of things, more or less at random. It was even beginning to believe things they'd have difficulty believing in Salt Lake City."



From Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams



How in the name of billy goats gruff does a myth of an afterlife enhance survival in this one? The entire world of animals and plants have no such concept. Bacteria seem to survive pretty well but you can hardly suspect them of joy or suffering.

Answer 2

I don't. I have discovered that emotional reactions are the result of mistaken beliefs in the belief system. Joy has been replaced with extreme satisfaction. Suffering just doesn't happen any more

Answer 3

Of course it is - look up "Congenital insensitivity to pain with anhidrosis"



Basically there are people out there that cannot feel pain and often self-harm without realizing it. A being that can feel pleasure from things helpful to it and pain from things harmful to its continued existence will live a longer, healthier life. Similarly if your robots can be programmed to gain "pleasure" from routine self-maintenance when its needed (like we feel hunger and can enjoy eating) and feel "pain" near sources of extreme heat for example that can damage circuitry, they will last longer without the intervention of others.



This means that basic natural selection would weed out organisms incapable of responding to such stimuli appropriately. Joy/happiness/pain are nothing but extensions of these responses and are experienced by a wide variety of creatures.

Answer 4

Only for religious people the rest of us are happy with the way things are -- Just so long as we are not forced to belong to something that is the Number one cause of Wars and killings on the earth -- Religion is todays big bad boy in reasons to kill a lot of people isis is a good example

Answer 5

both r necessary in life. just as only sweet dish will not make your diet you need some salty and pungent items also. same here. only happiness will make youir life bore. if there are no challanges or difficulties, you feel like doinmg something otherwise there is nothing left to be done. no?

Answer 6

1. We weren't created. 2. Emotions and physical sensations are part of life, and contrary to what you seem to think, are not limited to intelligent life. And 3. They aren't as complicated as you think.

Answer 7

Of course not... joy and suffering are part of life.

One allows you appreciate the other.

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Answer 8

Joy is a good indicator that something works.

Answer 9

sufference is not a word. Learn to spell.

Answer 10

When they are dying they try to believe in God but sometimes it's too late.

Answer 11

no