For what reason do some Christians believe that atheists use disbelief as a false pretext for immorality?

Question

From another answer:

"There are no true atheists. They're not born that way. The very reason that they are atheist is to be immoral. Without God, they can do what they want. The only restraint is fear of getting caught. They make up their own moral codes, supposing it to be superior."

If this were true, then it would mean that anyone who participates in a religion that excludes the Christian God uses their beliefs as a pretext for a morality that they prefer to cherry-pick. It also implies that it is necessary to claim unbelief in order to choose actions that are Biblically immoral, which raises the question of why an atheist would bother to label himself as such if he could merely discard morality without also discarding belief in the first place.

Is it possible to reason with a Christian who has taken such a position? For what reason(s) might they not take someone at their word when they say they reject the Christian God for the same reason the Christian rejects all other gods?

Answer 1

An atheist can not possibly have moral. That would go against everything they believe in.



An atheistic existential view of history. It says that history is a line, it is not a series of repetition, it is a line but it's started by accident and no one knows how in the world it's going to end. There is no God. We are all the result of a collocation of atoms or some kind of primeval slime that out of it oozed something or other that eventually became what is and who knows what will eventually happen. There is no God. There is no rhyme or reason. There is no method. There is no purpose. There is no creator. There is no progenitor. There is no concluder. We are simply in an accidental existence and the only way to live it is to cram it full of every bit of gusto you can possibly get and make it as meaningful in its meaninglessness as you possibly can. "Existentialism of this type," writes Anthony Hokima(?), "is without meaning. No significant pattern," he says," can be found in history, no movement toward a goal, only a meaningless succession of events. And this being the case, one is left with what would appear to be shear individualism, each person must try to find his way from non-authentic, to authentic existence by making significant decisions. But history as a whole is devoid of meaning."



No goal, no purpose, nothingness if they are a honest atheist.



MIMI

Answer 2

To cover up the fact that Christians use forgiveness to destroy morality!



Research shows that the reason humans struggle with emotion to find equitable solutions is pinpointed the region of the brain called the insular cortex, or insula, which is also the seat of emotional reactions.



The fact that the brain has such a robust response to unfairness shows that sensing unfairness is a basic evolved capacity.



The emotional response to unfairness pushes people from extreme inequity and drives them to be fair. This observation shows our basic impulse to be fair isn't a complicated thing that we learn.



It therefore fully illustrates that all humans have morals controlled by the brain and that Christians are entirely wrong to try and claim morals as their own!!!!



But Christians found a way round it!



Government statistics show that christians are vastly over represented in prisons for sexual, violent and fraudulent crime whilst year on year government figures show atheists make up only 2% of the prison population!



The Catholic church is paying millions in compensation for the sex/pedophile crimes of their priests alone!



Christians are vastly over represented in the divorce courts!



Christians invented the concept of sin and then the idea that you could sin, ask forgiveness, get pardoned and start with a clean sheet!



So no surprise that they are so expert at it is it‽



A Christian is a man that feels repentance on Sunday for what he did on Saturday and is going to do on Monday. - Thomas Russell Ybarra

Answer 3

Ignorance. Christians don't realize how pathetic their "morals" theory really is.. If you need the Bible to tell you to be a moral person then you may be a sociopath. That quote is from a near failure of a human being.



Reason with them? No. They've taken a possession without reason. Your final question requires reasoning.



Edit: Why are Christians so concerned with other peoples sex lives? More importantly, why do the deluded fools feel they have the right to force people to accept their views as law?

Answer 4

It should be put this way: Atheists claim God does not exist as the reason not to repent. I guess it amounts to the same thing as what you're saying, but is more accurate in that it goes to the core of the decision.



Anyone who finds any reason not to repent simply prefers to continue a life of sin, and has nothing to do with proving or disproving God's existence. We know this because everyone believes, even satan and the demons.

Answer 5

First off christians don't care about atheist and what they think. I for one am not going to read this cause you sound like an atheist.

Answer 6

Atheists do not reject all morality - they can be moral in basic things - but it is a minimalistic morality.

Answer 7

well i happen to know an atheists and thats exactly what he Does......the false pretense thing that u said

Answer 8

people would rather burn in their lusts rather than submit to a God who prohibits even masturbation. rather than admit they are guilty of sin, they invent reasons to keep on sinning.