Question:
A question for Mormons about the Word of Wisdom?
DotWarner
2008-07-11 08:39:38 UTC
I was wondering, if the D&C states that the word of wisdom is not a commandment, but "given for a principle with a promise", then why can you not get baptised or go to the temple if you continue to do these things without repentance. i don't do them- it's just not healthy, but you'd think if you had a cup of tea or coffee and it's not a commandment, that it shouldn't keep you out of the temple. how does that work?

i would say "members only please" since those are the only ones i will take seriously, but people who think they know what they are talking about even though they've never gone to church or read the book of mormon feel like they know best and can't seem to help themselves butting in where they're not invited, so...
Fourteen answers:
rkd6
2008-07-11 08:46:24 UTC
It wasn't a commandment when it was given. But it IS a commandment now. And no, it's not a commandment merely because it's been "blown out of proportion"...it was made a prerequisite for entering the temple via inspiration to the Prophet. As Mormons, we believe continuing revelation to God's Prophet.



EDIT:



The Word of Wisdom became a binding commandment when Heber J. Grant was prophet. But the importance of observing the World of Wisdom was stressed increasingly by each prophet leading up to Heber J. Grant.



Observe the following trend from Brigham Young to Heber J. Grant.



-Brigham Young-



"The spirit whispers to me," said Young in 1867, "to call upon the Latter-day Saints to observe the Word of Wisdom, to let tea, coffee, and tobacco alone, and to abstain from drinking spirituous drinks." In this same year, Brigham Young referred to the Word of Wisdom as "the word of the Lord," and explained to the members that although they had a great many privileges, indulgence in liquor and other injurious substances was not one of them.



-John Taylor-



Two years after taking leadership of the church, according to one researcher, John Taylor received a revelation designating the Word of Wisdom as a commandment.



-Wilford Woodruff-



By 1894 Wilford Woodruff became President of the Church and spoke forcefully to the members about Word of Wisdom compliance. With the increasing concern over observance, some leaders began to question whether those who did not fully follow the Word of Wisdom should be allowed to attend the Temple. In the early 1900's bishops were asked to consider each situation on its own merits since there was no rigid rule for each case. Recognizing that it would be a hardship for the older men--who had become addicted--to abstain from tobacco in order to enter the Temple, the First Presidency decided in 1902 that such members "should at least be willing to curtail themselves as much as they possibly can, and promise to cleanse themselves from the tobacco odor and not to use it at all the days they do work in the temple."



-Joseph F. Smith-



Joseph F. Smith, fifth President of the Church, felt "the reason...why the Word of Wisdom was given not by commandment or constraint was that at that time...it would have brought every man, addicted to the use of these noxious things, under condemnation." He reasoned that a merciful God would give individuals a chance to overcome undesirable habits before bringing them under law. Nevertheless, Joseph F. Smith felt that it was time for stricter observance. In 1902 he "urged stake presidents and others to refuse recommends to flagrant violators but to be somewhat liberal with old men who used tobacco and old ladies who drank tea. Habitual drunkards, however, were to be denied temple recommends." As demands for observance increased bishops were advised to no "'longer tolerate men in presiding positions who would not keep the Word of Wisdom.'" By 1906, in keeping with the increased emphasis on abstinence, the First Presidency and Twelve substituted water for wine in the sacrament in their temple meetings. Seven years later, the First Presidency instructed the President of the Salt Lake Stake, not to call or recommend missionaries who did not observe the Word of Wisdom."



-Heber J. Grant-



Five years later Heber J. Grant became Church President, and in 1921 adherence to the Word of Wisdom was made a requirement for admission to the Temple.



(info above is from) http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Conferences/2000_Up_in_Smoke.html
2008-07-11 15:51:57 UTC
When It was received, the Lord only meant it to be a word of "wisdom". However, the men were chewing tobacco in the temple and spitting it in spittoons, and sometimes missed. That was looked on with a great deal of trepidation. Therefore, the church voted on it to make it a revelation rather than a word of wisdom.



Since Alchohol and tobacco are or were in the top five killers of humans. and alcohol, one of the reasons for the break up of families and and item costing a ton of money in some families. It made good sense to make it a commandment.



Caffein is not so effective, but is the worlds most used drug and is addictive. My ex started on Pepsi's at age 21 and couldn't make it more than a couple of hours without one. That is how horrible that one is. I have met many people addicted to coffee and had to have one constantly. Why wouldn't a knowledgeable human being want to stay away from these things.



And the promises given in the word of wisdom are awesome. Christ did drink wine, but grape juice was called wine then, so I don't think he ever got out of hand.
2008-07-11 16:06:36 UTC
I would say, we are asked specifically IF we keep the word of wisdom, to get baptized or go to the temple. So, in my mind it is a commandment, I don't think it would be in the scriptures if we weren't supposed to abide by it. Also, it must be some form of a commandment or it wouldn't be a necessary thing to ask for those ordinances. Also, I think keeping the word of wisdom isn't necessarily just a 'health' thing but it is one to see if we will be obedient.

My husband has a hard time accepting why he can't have a cup of coffee now and then, but we are temple go-ers so he doesn't.



That's just what I think.
rac
2008-07-11 19:16:04 UTC
You now have several good answers.

For me it is a matter of giving heed to good counsel. If the Lord tells me that I should do something, who am I to tell Him that I won't listen unless He commands me to do so. That brings to mind the scripture about not being compelled in all things for such is a slothful and not a wise servant.

As for the W of W itself, it became binding upon the church during Brigham Young's term as mentioned by your other respondents.

For temple recommend purposes you will note that in the scripture it states that this is designed to be acceptable to all saints, even the least of those that can be called saints. In other words, if you can't keep this counsel, then maybe you are not strong enough to be called a Latter-day Saint. Thus not ready for baptism and certainly not worthy of a temple recommend.
plastik punk -Bottom Contributor
2008-07-11 16:20:44 UTC
From what I understand when it was first revealed the word of wisdom was a guideline and members were given suggestion to follow it. I believe it was some years later around the turn of the last century that it was made a commandment. I know I could find the exact history on this, but I know what I've stated is fairly close to how it went.
phrog
2008-07-11 15:46:15 UTC
It really comes down to trusting in the Lord's promises......



In the past, I have known of individuals who smoked that did have a temple recommend. I do not know if they got it by saying they didn't or something else.....just saying it has happened. God always leaves 'loopholes'. Maybe just to see if we will look for them, or if we are willing to adjust our lives to His will. Most of His prophecies and promises are conditional. It's something we need to adjust to and learn to live by.



EDIT: Background on the WoW - Hope this is what you wanted -



“In 1851, President Brigham Young proposed to the general conference of the Church that all Saints formally covenant to keep the Word of Wisdom. This proposal was unanimously upheld by the membership of the Church. Since that day, the revelation has been a binding commandment on all Church members” (E.T. Benson, Ensign, May 1983).



“The Lord foresaw the situation of today when motives for money would cause men to conspire to entice others to take noxious substances into their bodies. Advertisements which promote beer, wine, liquors, coffee, tobacco, and other harmful substances are examples of what the Lord foresaw. But the most pernicious example of an evil conspiracy in our time is those who induce young people into the use of drugs” (E.T. Benson, Ensign, May 1983).
Open Heart Searchery
2008-07-11 15:45:53 UTC
I agree with you. The Word of Wisdom was given as counsel, not as a commandment. Yet over time it has taken on a life of its own and now seems equivalent to other things like chastity, abortion, apostasy, etc in the temple recommend interviews. It seems a little blown out of proportion IMO.



I also follow the word of wisdom, but I often wonder the same things. Especially when I read about Jesus drinking wine and turning water into wine. I have even read that Joseph Smith drank the ocassional glass of wine or cup of tea even after the word of wisdom revelation was given. So I'm just not sure how serious of a sin it is, but it seems to be considered quite serious by the Church now. Maybe it was the 60's & 70's drug culture that did it?



EDIT: Questioning the quirks of Mormon culture while still being obedient to LDS doctrine is "kicking against the pricks?" Hey, if there is specific revelation that made it a commandment rather than just a suggestion, please provide me the reference - I'm more than willing to admit that I'm wrong. Thanks!



EDIT 2: Thanks to those who provided context for the transition of the Word of Wisdom from suggestion to commandment. I stand corrected. :-)
Old Timer Too
2008-07-11 15:52:57 UTC
Read the next verse. Here are the two pertinent ones:

2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

3 Given for a principle with promise, adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints, who are or can be called saints.



In short, it is a standard for the weakest of all the members of the church. It isn't given by way of commandment because it is a health code and health codes change with conditions. For instance, the health codes given to ancient Israel concerning the eating of certain meats, cooking, and cleanliness no longer apply because we now have methods that make eating, cooking, and cleanliness safe from disease.



Likewise, the decisions on what to include and not to include is determined by time - most wines today have additives, coffee and tea both have chemical content that cause serious health issues. Tobacco and alcohol are obvious in their addictive natures, not to mention the problems associated with tobacco and drunkenness. Illegal drugs are now also included for similar reasons.



Because it is given for the weakest of all members, it is also used as a standard for temple worthiness.



The above is my opinion on the matter. I recommend reading President Hinckley's comments on "Wisdom with a Promise" (Link: http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=024644f8f206c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=b4f935c4ceeae010VgnVCM100000176f620a____&hideNav=1) as it addresses your very question.
Yoda's Duck
2008-07-11 17:55:12 UTC
I think it was while Brigham was prophet. Don't quote me, though.



Apparently, at some point, Brigham decided that although the WoW was a suggestion, that he should be an example and worked to quit smoking- he smoked a pipe. He really struggled (if I remember right), and it may have been because of that struggle that the issue came before the 12.... Maybe he thought, "If it's this hard to quit, maybe we shouldn't be starting in the first place..."





I personally see the addictions the WoW prevents as coming from our Father's desire for us to be free and strong. Just one example-- Watching my coworkers that smoke- their whole day is dictated by nicotine!!
2008-07-11 16:25:06 UTC
when it was first given it wasn't a commandment



It's almost humorous how non-LDS people add things to the WofW that aren't there. They say, "hey, why are you drinking that Coke?" Coke isn't in the WofW!



"Hot drinks" has been interpreted to mean black tea and coffee but it doesn't specifically mention coffee & tea. Actually if you have hot chocolate that is too hot, that would be bad.



I follow the WofW. I feel that I am healthier than I would be without it. I don;t think that I am "breaking the WofW" when I have a periodic diet Coke. (They don't ask in a temple recommend interview.)
Cholla Cacti are not nice
2008-07-11 18:34:21 UTC
When first given the Word of Wisdom was not a commandment, but it has since been made one.

"Give heed to this Word of Wisdom," President Joseph F. Smith said. "It was given unto us 'not by commandment'; but by the word of President Brigham Young, it was made a commandment unto the saints." (Gos. Doc. p 365) The Prophet himself gave this decision: "No official member in this Church is worthy to hold an office after having the Word of Wisdom properly taught him, and he, the official member, neglecting to comply with and obey it." (Teachings, p 117)
Ace
2008-07-11 15:57:18 UTC
We just simply can not choose which of His laws and commandements we will or will not follow.



He is the same yesterday, today and forever.



Gods laws do not change to compensate for the will of mankind.



The Lord does give commandements for the temporal and spiritual benefit of man.



Edit;

Geeze lady, read the answers, every one of them answers your question.
falisrm
2008-07-11 15:51:14 UTC
rkd said it well. You and beta fish blow me away. This is common sense. Anyone knows by the spirit to obey the word of wisdom. Cigerettes, Alchohol control lives. Its substance abuse. Same with that morning jolt everyone seems to need.



You two are kicking against the pricks for sure.

Seriously, if the word of wisdom wasn't a requirement, what else would be your fruits of repentance? Drink and do drugs, just don't become an alcoholic or druggie?



EDIT: http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-commandments/obey-the-word-of-wisdom



http://providentliving.org/content/list/0,11664,2407-1,00.html



This is religion 101. We hear it every week and the missionaries teach it every single day.
Anonymous
2008-07-11 15:44:42 UTC
I would say any principle from God is a commandment. He expects us to follow His word rather it is referred to as a commandment or a principle.


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