On the subject of "SALVATION" ... permanent? Or conditional, based on POST - "Christ-acceptance" behavior?

Question

Christians, fascinated on-lookers ... what-have-you.

I've come to an understanding that regular, run-of-the-mill Christians believe in "salvation through faith" by simply "asking Jesus to come into their hearts." Southern Baptists (on the other hand, and for example) believe that, in addition, one must be baptised by being dunked under water.

Now, here's the premise ... say you have a guy who professes to have accepted the Christian god (because we're not talking about the other gods at the moment), whether or not he gets baptised in water ... for all accounts and purposes, the guy is "saved."

Now, suppose that guy eventually starts drinking, and whoring, and raping, and stealing, and ends up in jail, or dead, or whatever.

SOME WOULD SAY HE IS STILL "SAVED" ... just that he "fell off the wagon."

OTHERS WOULD SAY THAT HE WAS "NEVER SAVED" IN THE FIRST PLACE AND MUST HAVE BEEN "FRONTING" ... because if he was truly "saved" he never would have committed all those bad deeds.


WHICH IS IT?

Answer 1

"The secret to salvation is but this; you are doing this to yourself".

Answer 2

There is



NO,



such thing as



UNCONDITIONAL,



Eternal Security. Our salvation is conditional, based on our obeying what God says in his word. You sin I sin we all sin,

is a



DAMNABLE,



doctrine



STRAIGHT,



from hell itself.



Heaven is a holy place,

filled with glory and with grace,

sin can never enter there.

So if at the judgment bar,

sinful spots your soul shall mar,

you can never enter there.



It is as simple as that. Read Romans chapters 5-8. You will see that Christians



CAN,



live holy or free from sin.



BY THE WAY,



Water baptism does not save you (anyone).

Answer 3

he is not saved

baptism is not essential for salvation



once saved a person will have changed they will not go and lived like they never were saved as in drinking, and whoring, and raping, and stealing .



A person who does that is not saved