If your atheist, please tell me how do you KNOW there is no God?

Question

I dont want to hear anything about the Bible or any critics on religions. This is about defending what you believe. Atheists ask Believers in God all the time questions that ask them to defend their beliefs. So im asking atheists to please defend the fact that there is no God.
-Asking a question in return such as what proof do believers have in a God?
-i strictly want the proof that you atheists have that their is no God that all the believers dont have, because the believers i know all have been able to defend questions they are asked. these would be extremely intelligent believers.
so please tell me.

Answer 1

Academia states that in the absence of proof of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable proof is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.



There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one!!! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!!



There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!!



He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?



Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!!



Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!!



At best he was an amalgam of those others!!



The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god!!! He also organized Christianity into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!! Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely ITALIAN!!



Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?



What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Christian enemies - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!!!



The first person to provide a shred of verifiable evidence for God will become world famous and mega rich!! Ain't happened yet and it never will!!



So how does this primitive belief survive? The answer is simple and very down to Earth!!



Acceptance of a supernatural claim tends to promote cooperative social relationships. This communication demonstrates a willingness to accept, without skepticism, the influence of the speaker in a way similar to a child's acceptance of the influence of a parent. By encouraging this kind of behavior where the most intense social relationships occur it facilitates the lack of skepticism and deters more open minded thinking.



They are christian, Muslim or the other religions depending where they were born simply because they were indoctrinated by their parents as very young children. They will go on to indoctrinate their own children and those will go on to indoctrinate their grandchildren!!



Atheists have the intellect to see through the conditioning and escape into the real world!!



Agnostics have the intellect to see through the conditioning but lack the courage to throw of the conditioning entirely.



Sadly Christians are still held firmly prisoner by the self perpetuating brainwashing!!

Answer 2

Unfortunately, by definition, your God cannot be proved against. There are too many fail-safes and safety nets. He is completely capable of doing whatever he wants, so he can make himself utterly invisible, destroy all traces of his existence, and even throw things like the fossil record at us, just to be a douche.



Therefore if he does exist... well he's either incompetent, or at least, a douche. Seriously - war, horror, disease, genocide, rape, murder, starvation - why would he allow these things to exist? See George Carlin, "Religion is Bullshit," for more along this vein.



So. We have an undisproveable all-powerful but mean (or neither) Father here. Can we disprove him? Well no, he's undisproveable.



We can disprove the /need/ for a God though. No, the Big Bang theory isn't 100% solid yet, but evolution is pretty damn spot-on (seriously, it is literally impossible that evolution could /not/ happen - using logic and just looking at something as fundamental as dog breeding you can see that), physicists are doing lots of research on how planets and stars can come into being... I don't believe in souls, I have a perfectly functional "moral compass" without the guidance of the Church (morals are literally "do not be a selfish prick" subdivided in a few special specific ways) - so I present to you the argument that there is no need for a God.



Then we can look at how hard it is to really trust a book that was hypothetically written thousands of years ago. Think of the editions and translations between now and then. Think of the historical accounts of its writing and the fact that many religious scholars agree that many parts of it weren't written by the people we assume they were (many of the gospels don't seem to be written by their appropriate disciple). How do we know they weren't just great big fibbers? There is no way to know. And logic presents evidence to the contrary.



And. Uh. I've never seen a believer defend the questions they're asked in a way that can actually be backed up by science, by anything measureable or observable... yeah.



So. I just know that God is ENTIRELY as likely as The Flying Spaghetti Monster and The Invisible Pink Unicorn and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. (Actually, there might be more evidence for the latter.) I feel no compelling reason to believe.



I figure that if God cared so much he'd give me some evidence.



Either I'm not worth saving or he doesn't exist.

Answer 3

I believe in god, but as far as science goes, I always agree with atheists.



However, I'm going to pretend I'm an atheist right now.



First of all, when someone says there is a Santa Clause, do you demand proof from them? If so, then that's why atheists do the same to you. You're telling us to provide proof that there is no god, but in reality, you need to prove that your own claim is fact.



From a scientific point of view, god is in the middle of fact and fiction. No evidence is there to support the existence of a god, but none supports a god not being around. Because god is in the realm of the super natural, it's physically impossible to test his existence.



Please, don't use ghost hunters as an example. That's about as real as the blair witch project.



I'm defending my belief in a god right now. I believe because there's no proof to disprove a god, and I don't like to live knowing this is all a big accident. Why would life want to keep on going, knowing it won't get to go somewhere afterwards? It doesn't know, it just keeps on living and we keep on reporducing because we as a species want to survive. I'd like to think there's more than just reproducing and getting out of the way for the next generation.

Answer 4

I never said, "There is no God."



And I don't blame you for not wanting to hear anything about the Bible.



You ask me to defend my beliefs.

But what you and so many others like you can't seem to comprehend is:



I Don't HAVE any beliefs when it comes to God.



Can't you understand that?



Can your mind even CONCEIVE of the idea that I CAN'T believe in God? No matter how desperately I wanted to? And how hard I've tried?



No. You can't.



You can only think inside your own little bubble you have created for yourself.

And your mind is closed to any other sort of possibility.



THAT'S what your religion has taught you.

And it's clear I'm wasting my time..

Answer 5

We have plenty of scientific evidence which disproves religions. Outside of religions there is no proof of any god, so if such a god existed, we'd know nothing about it, and talking about it would be meaningless.



No religious person has ever made an educated argument for their gods, and we can prove that religious people are brainwashed and irrational and delusional with psychology. We can also prove that prayer doesn't work, spiritual experiences have natural causes, appologetics is based on logical fallacies...



There's really a clear cut case that religion is just a coping mechanism and nothing more, and that it has been used by people in power for social control. There's no argument about it really.



I don't really see the point about talking about a being that nobody knows any attributes of. If you find some evidence of a creator, then discussing it would make sense. Other wise you're just using your imagination to write a fantasy novel.

Answer 6

isn't a bible basher someone who's hostile to it? which comprise an atheist? So...are not they a similar individual? besides, those who come on your door are likely Jehovah's Witnesses...they do no longer trust in Jesus because the Messiah. in my opinion, i trust that asking God to change into area of your life and accepting Jesus as your Messiah is what it skill to change right into a real believing Christian. if you're an atheist listening to this "message" from a Jehovah's witness then i'd perhaps trust that because that's the incorrect message it isn't having the right effect on you? even if that's for genuine, and from God...you'll sense it. God knows what's on your heart in spite of your beliefs. So, if you're wondering what to do from the following and are fascinated...in simple terms take a second and communicate to God. tell him you've an pastime in listening to this message and once you're uncertain of what you've self belief, you would possibly want to favor to listen on your thoughts! there is no longer some thing incorrect with being thoroughly right away ahead! God tells us to achieve out to him below any circumstances. danger is, in case your request is straightforward, quickly sufficient, you'll finally end up confronted with opportunities to study and change into knowledgeable. sturdy success!

Answer 7

I don't think science, which I am most inclined to go with, can show that a god or gods exist. Likewise, it cannot show that they don't exist. Deities are supernatural and evidently exist outside the natural universe, so scientifically they are off-limits.



It all boils down to whether you have the faith to believe in something that cannot be verified by experiment.

Answer 8

The same reason you don't believe in Zeus, Oden, Ra, and any of the other 1000's of god's that have come to pass... I just don't believe 1 less then you...



No evidence to support GOD exists.

Evidence to support the bible is false in many of it's accounts.



But mainly, If there is a GOD... I don't think it would choose to have the word of his existance and what it wants from us spread by man from 2000 years ago... We would ALL know he exists without doubt and what exactly he wants from us!!

Answer 9

An athiest cannot Prove that God does not exist, an athiest can argue for the probability that God does not exist. And vice a versus for a theist.

Answer 10

I am a Christian, but I think the argument atheists have is there are no Gods, just man. It doesn't matter to them if they can prove it or not to anyone.



Knowing is relative and subjective to the person. It is not an objective viewpoint.

Answer 11

As long as I'm not trying to convince or force anyone to live according to my beliefs, I'm not obligated to "defend" them to you or anyone else (excactly the same as with Xtians).



However, the believers' inability to furnish credible proof of their gods despite the passage of many thousands of years IS in itself evidence that gods do not exist. The paradox of an omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent God who nonetheless permits evil, tragedy and suffering to run rampant in the world is ample proof that the Xtian God doesn't exist.

Answer 12

Logically, a truly transcendent God can be neither proven nor disproven.



Technically, atheists don't "believe" in any God, diety, etc.



"...please defend the fact..."



So you're saying it's a fact?



And conversely, I want to have the proof theists have that God is real...

Answer 13

I no more know there isn't a god, than I know there no faeries, 800' tall men named Alan, or inviable yellow flying toads.



God is a proposition, and carries a burden of proof. Doubt does not carry a burden of proof. It is not an assertion to say, "I do not believe," a thing.

Answer 14

I don't feel the presence or existence of a god as Christians understand it to be. What I do feel is the force of Life itself. It has an inherent drive to succeed and to thrive in all of its forms, but is not a separate master/creator who punishes those who 'sin' against him and/or rewards people who bow to him and accept him as truth.

Answer 15

Your the one that has to prove the invisible man in the sky exists... how do you defend the belief of nothing?

Answer 16

I claim that there is no evidence for gods. So provide some evidence; until then, I will continue to believe that there are no gods.

Answer 17

Kevin, they don't know *whispers* (much of anything) *whispers*



Kevin, honestly... don't bother the atheists.



I am sure they have enough problems.



Besides, all they are going to do is call you (us) delusional, claim that we use logical fallacies, and even if they offer us real proof.... are you really going to change your mind?



Because, I for one, am not!

Answer 18

I don't claim there is no god or indeed no gods.



I don't believe in them.



That's what atheism is: a non belief in deities.



I have nothing to prove.

Answer 19

One can know for sure that God DOES exist by praying the rosary regularly. See the following promises.



The rosary is explained here:

http://www.sancta.org/rosary/how.html



The fifteen promises of Mary to Christians who recite the rosary:

1. Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.

2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.

3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against Hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.

4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.

5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.

6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its sacred mysteries, shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God and become worthy of eternal life.

7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.

8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plenitude of His graces; at the moment of death, they shall participate in the merits of the saints in Paradise.

9. I shall deliver from Purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.

10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.

11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.

12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.

13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire Celestial Court during their life and at the hour of death.

14. All who recite the Rosary are my sons, and brothers of my only Son, Jesus Christ.

15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.



God bless!

Dave

Answer 20

I know what I need to know and do not owe an explanation about anything to anyone

Answer 21

"This is about defending what you believe."



No, it is not. You seem to be under the delusion that I have actually claimed something. I just deny your claim, that's all.

Answer 22

I refute your belief due to lack of proof...beep...this is a recording.

Answer 23

I'm an atheist, but I am also agnostic.



...You should really look up the actual definitions of the words "atheist" and "agnostic."

Answer 24

the same reason i KNOW there's no such thing as a leprechaun.