Question:
We really can't convince Christians they're wrong. What now?
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:26:59 UTC
Logic doesn't work. Education doesn't take. There is misinformation being spread about evolution. They need their sky-daddy! So what can we do now to get around them? We need to make some sort of "pocket of non-influence" that they can exist inside, and not screw everything else up. How can we create this? Separation of church and state is a good start...
57 answers:
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:38:51 UTC
another conversion attempt?!?!?!

If we are all going to die and be nothing but worm food what does it matter what we believe? If evolution is a reliable way to ensure "survival of the fittest" then just let evolution take care of our silly uneducated beliefs- I mean if we are that weak and uneducated then evolution should wipe us all out in say , umm... a few billion years! There is PLENTY of misinformation being spread about Christianity, what exactly we believe and why- so I would suggest you get educated. Besides if through evolution this world can only get better and stronger - why is it , according to your own words, getting more and more screwed up? Not because of us Christians- because if we were wrong, and you know we are not- then it would make absolutely no difference in the world what anyone believed, how anyone lived their life,etc.



Evidently you believe there is something more , otherwise you would not spend so much time and effort trying to convert us all the time :)
The Y!ABut
2006-07-25 12:00:12 UTC
I totally agree with the separation of Church and State. I think a person should run if they hear statements like "I would never do that to you, I am a Christian." I put up a wall right away. I would rather go to 'Honest Abe's' used car lot. I am not against Christianity. I am against the abuse of it. Many seem to think it is a cure-all. An easy way out. That no matter what they do, it will be ok because they have 'been redeemed'. I know of a case where a father abused his child and when he was in court actually told the judge that it would be ok because 'Jesus will heal her.' The judge handed down the stiffest sentence he could give. Citing that he had less regard for his own daughter than a drunk behind the wheel of a car. All I want is for people to be accountable and quit hiding behind the mask of "Christian"
du_robot
2006-07-25 11:46:23 UTC
You can't tell someone what to believe in. Be it god or love it is simply a feeling to which no logic can apply.



As far as, evolution goes, well that's just the crazy fundamentalists. Even the Vatican has admitted that evolution is scientific fact. For that matter is it really so difficult to imagine evolution and god co-existing? Devo figured it out:



"God made man, but a monkey applied the glue."



Moreover, we have certainly benefited from the influence of some Christians - MLK for example. Rather we need to get rid of fundamentalism. We need to make Christians realize that the death penalty, greedy materialism, judging and hating others for a different faith or lifestyle... all of these things are very directly opposed to the teachings of Jesus. Moreover, Jesus himself was an advocate of the separation of church and state. Remember, Jesus was executed by a joint order between the Temple and the Emperor, and it was he who said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's render unto god that which is god's."



Unfortunately many secular minded folk fall into the same fundamentalist trap as our Christian brothers and sisters. It's just as easy to get self-righteous about not-god as it is to feel that way about god.



So, the answer is simple. Instead of looking for things to fight about and reasons to hate each other, let's look at things we can agree upon. Both Atheists and Christians should have a strong interest in the separation of church and state because while your particular faith might be in fashion now, what about 50 years from now? What if at that point Islam is the most popular religion? Moreover, there are many universally human causes we can agree upon - ending starvation and poverty, curing diseases, promoting equality and justice for all people, and working for peace. There are plenty of Christians out there who are focused on these noble goals, unfortunately they just aren't as loud as the Pat Robertsons and Ralph Reeds of the world.
Sparky
2006-07-25 11:46:05 UTC
I don't have a problem with ANY RELIGION. It is the EFFECTS that the religion is having on the people.



The Christian Right (or Satanic Wrong as I call them) have been running this country for way too long, and their politics look more like the politics of war, strife, hate, blasphemy and deception than those of Jesus. Jesus was into peace, prosperity, getting along, acceptance, truth, and good religion.



People will continue to vary in their religious interpretations through eternity. Do yourself a favor and get used to it and like it. I just call it DIVERSITY, and it is a beautiful thing.



As for the Christian Right, when were they EVER RIGHT, and they don't look Christian to me. VOTE AGAINST THEM and help in political campaigns to remove them from office so we can get our country back from their cruel and unusual punishment. You can also write your congressmen and voice your political opinions as well as various federal agencies. Everybody has a web site and is open to input from the public.



Or, sit on your **** and complain about it. A good first step is to talk to your friends and get them involved. Every vote counts. I am pretty much voting COMPLETELY AGAINST ALL REPUBLICANS in the next election in the hopes that it will help. I like the Libertarians, and the Bush Administration has just done this country WAY WRONG.
The Truth 2006
2006-07-26 00:18:59 UTC
All religions, especially Christianity has a vague understanding and range of knowledge of god and heaven and hell. All these wars today over religion, it’s not about if there is a god, it’s about his looks and his divine words, which god is better. Nobody knows what god wants, hell nobody even knows what happens to you after you die. There are many answers, but they are really assumptions. So religions blend their own hatred towards gays, promiscious women, criminals, even other religions as being pagans and not believing in one god for their own benefit and build a negative cycle and a split in society strictly fueled by contradiction (when one thing opposes the other) such as thou shall not kill, but christian religious freaks killed thousands so called non believers in 1095 A.D, which is hypocrisy (The false expression of beliefs, feelings, or virtues which one does not actually possess, or follow themselves fully, or even to a certain extent) which is the main factor of dehumanizing others (process by which members of a group of people assert the "inferiority" of another group through subtle or overt acts or statements.) sometimes people may feel that the biggest sin is just being born, existing because religion banishes everything, so what’s the point of caring if everything is wrong to those who are closer to the creator (or creators)?. By reading this answer and separating fact from fiction.
Battousai
2006-07-25 11:34:46 UTC
Hey not all Christians are the ones you speak of. Personally, I don't believe in an absolute wrong. For that to occur, everyone would have to agree on an absolute right (100% of people agree). Therefore, I can not and will not say what is "right" or "wrong". I have a personally right and wrong and I encourage everyone else to do the same. My personally "right " is that there is a God, or as you call him Sky Daddy (I think that is cool by the way).



I'd never tell you how to live your life, please don't tell me how to live mine. And I agree about the crazy people calling themselves Christians and making choices for everyone! Get rid of them and we'd all be happier people!
justmeagain
2006-07-25 11:36:05 UTC
What gives you the right to take away our rights...I am a Christian. I share my beliefs, but I do not insult yours. Why does it bother you Sooooo much what someone else believes? That might be a good place for you to start. If you don't believe in Christ or the Christian faith bothers you so much, ask yourself why? When I don't believe/agree with anothers beliefs or viewpoints, I don't dwell on their beliefs...I dig deeper into my own.

And by the way...I thank God for every person that suffered even to death so that I can have the freedom to type this or say what I believe without having to worry about people "getting around me".
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:31:36 UTC
Would you play the lottery if it where free and you could still win millions of dollars???



Here's the way I see it. Athiests have got to be the dumbest people on the planet. Sure there is overwhelming evidence of evolution, however there is no evidence as to the creation of the universe. So, with that in mind, what do you have to lose by believing there is a God? But on the flip side, imagine what you have to gain...
bc_munkee
2006-07-25 11:32:36 UTC
An anti-religious advocacy group needs to be started up, to bring our message into the political mainstream. The fundies have most of the power right now, and that is why we find ourselves in these silly dillemmas (ID in school, stem-cell research, etc.). There needs to be a political platform that reflects our views, basically...something not as corrupt, or self-promoting as the ACLU.



Edit: J.C.! Do you think that guy wrote enough? I hate when they do that. If I wanted to read an entire text, I would not be on here.

LOL!
Tim
2006-07-25 11:32:47 UTC
What happened to tolerance? Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them wrong. What right do you have to take away the civil and human rights of a third of the human race? If your logic and education lead to the kind of intolerance you exhibit, I would doubt whether you're as logical and educated as you think.
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:32:52 UTC
You shouldn't try to convince Christians that we are wrong. It is our belief and we have that right. Just as with the seperation of church and state which I agree with, I am also a believer of Freedom of Religion. Let everyone believe what they want, it doesn't hurt anyone. What are Christians messing up? It is a religion just as the others, or do you begrudge all religions?
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:32:45 UTC
Well see?



If you were SMART... you'd understand what the "separation of church and state" really means. Since you probably don't like to read... let me do your research for you.



What that phrase means is, NO CHURCH, can be a STATE.



It doesn't mean that states can't have churches or you can't have religious things in state paid for buildings.



Secondly... Who set you up as the GRAND POOH-BAH...



Why do you presume that you should be telling another adult what to believe in or not? It's not your JOB, nor do you have the RIGHT to impose your VIEWS, true or otherwise... on another adult.



Look this one up yourself: "FAITH".



Look, I don't go around trying to make NON-BELIEVERS believe in what what I do. Their LACK of BELIEF is THEIR religion.



Do you know how PRESUMPTUOUS you are?



Evidently you don't. Evidently You lack the intellect or interspersion.
tobykeogh
2006-07-25 11:28:55 UTC
yes we can. don't give up.



700 years ago, they murdered and tortured people with opposing beliefs.



500 years ago, they believed in geocentricity. (they even burned galileo alive for his preaching heliocentricity.)



150 years ago, NO ONE agreed with darwin.



80 years ago, john scopes was tried and convicted for teaching evolution in public schools.



look at the progress. christianity has been dying. in fact, true christianity is already dead. even the most hard core fundamentalists are really just moderates.



we just have to keep fighting the fight. i've already personally aided creationists in crossing over to IDists, and some as far over as straight up darwinists (i think).



so educate yourself as best you can on why christianity is false and dangerous, and just don't stop. you're making a difference whether you know it or not. just,,,,, be careful not to spread any information yourself. sometimes mistakes happen, but just don't lie intentionally.



good luck. we're all in this together, kid.
lilith
2006-07-25 11:34:07 UTC
I don't know why they want to pray in school so bad.



Silly Christians, don't they realize if their kids can pray to their christian god, the other kids would be allowed to pray to their own gods as well?

They wouldn't stand for it, I know they wouldn't. "That kids praying to (so and so) right next to my son", oh the horror. They have no respect that someone believes and cherishes a different god than they do, they just freak out and say it's evil or a demon.



Of course, I guess I'm guilty of not having much or any respect (at times) that they believe and Cherish their Christian god. Whatever.
trainer53
2006-07-25 11:32:11 UTC
So this is the question? You come to a religious site and ask this? Hmmm, well I guess there are "other religions" on here huh!

You don't have to agree with Christianity and we don't have to agree with you. Why don't you just believe your thing, and I'll believe mine? Why do you need to "convince me" of anything? We're always being accused of trying to convince people about Jesus, but what about you? What if you're wrong?
kai u
2006-07-26 13:52:28 UTC
True story.I am like everyone else but yet seem to be different for along time ive been wanting the truth about god and 1 day i got upset i saw to many people pointing the finger and everyone saying are group or religion is the right one and your the wrong one.So one day i asked god with GREAT passion and desire i steped away from my religion and said i dont want any part of this world man is to nieve and said i will have a more personal realationship with you instead show me the truth.I got my answer you find him with desire passion its is not about a group its about peoples heart .Gods chosen people seek whats right who seek the truth who have passion and desire for God for the love you have will make you stand out from the rest of the world the message from god goes on to say to me: for those who love do not steal for the who love do not cause harm to another man to those who love dont desire to be greedy for those who love desire to please god the list goes on but you get the point .Heres another clue/ for a man who really loves his wife he will not find the desire to cheat on his wife because the love is real. A maridge contract is useless without love ,the love binds the contract.The actual meaning of god if you look it up is love.So,bottom line if love is really what you are that will make you stand out from the rest of the world remember this god knows whats in your heart SO,ask yourself is your heart it worthy enough for God.God knows what real love is otherwise you and i would not be here.
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:30:16 UTC
It's amazing that you would use John's picture for your Avatar and ask this question. Bless his heart----he chose sin for his life. He chose lusts, addictions, destructive choices, and he paid the consequences for his actions.



Satan is good at trying to diminish the power of God and the victory of Jesus Christ. That's the devil's only hope---to see how many purported intelligent people he can get to go with him to hell. I will pray that you can come to the realization that you are being dooped.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2006-07-25 11:35:34 UTC
The fact that you are so concerned with others believing and reaping the benefits of a life with Jesus Christ tells me that you-----------perhaps have some doubts.

Thats good.

Everyone should always have an open mind- thereby always keep themselves in a state of perpetual learning..... keep searching

Peace-
Kenny ♣
2006-07-25 11:29:22 UTC
Separation of church and state should mean religious people can't vote or run for office. How do you think that would go over?
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:29:53 UTC
Get over it. Live your life the way you want and let it end there. Stop trying to push your beliefs on to others. If you do that, you're just as bad as the Christians. Do your thing, leave others alone.
antfaz
2006-07-25 11:34:41 UTC
To be honest with you, sometimes I wish our influence were less political. It makes it too easy for you to dismiss our core message.



Plus, I hate to admit it, but persecution brings out the best in us. Evidence shows that's when our influence grows.
iknowtruthismine
2006-07-25 11:29:47 UTC
Arguing with a Christian is like playing chess with a pigeon, they knock over all the pieces, crap on the board, then fly home to their flock to declare victory
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:32:36 UTC
I say all the Christians can have the US. I want to be someplace warm, sunny, and on a beach, that doesn't involve California.
peaco1000
2006-07-25 11:30:17 UTC
The church will NEVER give up its power. These sheep need it. Its a match made in heaven.
anthonydavidpirtle
2006-07-25 11:30:41 UTC
Perhaps the problem is your either/or approach. If christians want to believe what they believe what does it matter to you? As long as no one is forcing you to be a christian, and as long as evangelicals fail to inject god all over the government, what does it matter?
Rose
2006-07-25 11:30:14 UTC
I think you should just let people believe what they want to believe, and we do have seperation of church and state, it's in the constitution.
Looking4Help727
2006-07-25 11:28:50 UTC
Get rid of the Christian Republicans running this damn country...Good Start There
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:30:17 UTC
putt all the extreme christians and all the extreme muslims in the middle east and tell them its the whole city is for who wins it.

it will take around 2 weeks before they all killed eachother.

after that we can live in peace..
Kylie W
2006-07-25 11:29:13 UTC
it's because you have to have FAITH and not hard facts. If you need logic to believe in god then you'r not truely a christian so you'r NEVER gonna stray me from the right path.
sweetie_baby
2006-07-25 11:29:03 UTC
Aw, freedom of speech and religion kind of head ya off there. You cant, unless you re-write the constitution.
walstib_710
2006-07-25 11:32:15 UTC
educate your children, then urge them to plant the seed of doubt in the christian chldrens heads when they grow up the doubt will break the brainwashing.
John D
2006-07-25 11:28:22 UTC
I say we just continue to harass them and have fun at their expense. Most of them are harmless. And the rest will get what they deserve.
Cheesie M
2006-07-25 11:29:16 UTC
how about separation of the bible belt from the rest of america. let's make it a safe haven for the god abusing one.
2BaD4u
2006-07-25 11:33:57 UTC
How about this: "A War on Christianity"!!!!!! We have war on everything else in this country.Drugs,violence,homelessness,poverty,terror etc.....
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:29:22 UTC
Use them to feed the poor? HEY, just an idea! How do they taste anyway?
mikayla_starstuff
2006-07-25 11:29:50 UTC
Make sure they can't nullify or revise the First Amendment.

(Assuming you're from the US)
Brian
2006-07-25 11:30:59 UTC
Live and let live. Don't try to change them, because they hate that as much as you do when someone tries to change you.
graci j
2006-07-25 11:29:35 UTC
I think you're mad because christians are right.. of course we need God!!! if you believe in evoulution ur on sumtin
Br
2006-07-25 11:30:47 UTC
Please! I just got done writing a report for Confirmation and now I have to hear you wining that we are wrong! God bless you and may he help you to realize your mistake!
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:29:59 UTC
Just remember my favorite saying: "IT IS BETTER TO HAVE A BRAIN AND NO RELIGION THAN TO HAVE A RELIGION AND NO BRAIN".



Question answered.!
Von Kempelen
2006-07-25 11:39:13 UTC
Just do what you think is the right thing to do, however erroneous that may be.
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:29:30 UTC
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Dysthymia
2006-07-25 11:29:08 UTC
So you want to take away our civil rights?
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:31:23 UTC
leave them alone or you become a hypocrite. everyone has the right to believe wha they want to.
Thomas G
2006-07-25 11:30:26 UTC
See you on Judgement day!
Kansas
2006-07-25 11:33:39 UTC
why is it so important that you prove us wrong? If we're wrong, then what are you worried about?!? Ignore us if we bug you so much.
aefhskjrfhskjghskjrghw289utghwsr
2006-07-25 11:30:24 UTC
even though it's annoying, you just have to accept it. and if you can't do that, just avoid the conversation i guess.
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:31:04 UTC
By your lifestyle. Why do you try so hard? That is your problem.
bilbodawg2004
2006-07-25 11:29:27 UTC
haha, your all going to burn in hell!!!!!! Oh im sorry thats not very christian of me to say!
MelaMom23boys
2006-07-25 11:29:13 UTC
If you dont believe, dont worry!
Xianpu
2006-07-25 11:29:30 UTC
just leave them alone!
joglekarpv
2006-07-25 11:28:32 UTC
forget it
JAM123
2006-07-25 11:30:25 UTC
Maybe you are wrong.!!!
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:34:07 UTC
*shrug*
anonymous
2006-07-25 11:28:46 UTC
What are you gonna do!??!?!
DannyK
2006-07-25 11:29:18 UTC
Please provide proof that you are correct.
Deepest-Blue
2006-07-25 11:30:53 UTC
Chaplain Yusuf Estes will tell his story of how he discovered Islam and will tell you what made him like about Islam and finally you will discover the truth.



He is speaking



Many people ask me how a preacher or priest in Christianity can ever go to Islam, especially considering all the negative things that we hear about Islam and Muslims everyday. Some people are simply curious, while others take a profound exception to my "conversion" to Islam. Some have asked how I could have turned my back on Jesus, or if I truly understood the Holy Ghost and some even questioned whether or not I considered myself as "born again" or had ever really been saved at all. These are good questions to which I will offer answers to at the end of this writing. I would like to thank everyone for their interest and offer my humble story, God Willing.



One very nice Christian gentleman asked me in email why and how I left Christianity for Islam. This is more or less a copy of the letter I sent to him.



Introduction

My name is Yusuf Estes now, but in years past my friends used to call me Skip. I have preached Christianity and worked in the entertainment and music industry since I was a boy in the 1950's. My father and I have established music stores, TV and radio programs and outdoor entertainment for fun (and profit). I was a music minister and even used a pony ride and entertained the children as "Skippy the Clown."



Once, I have served as Delegate to the United Nations Peace Conference for Religious Leaders. Now I am a retired former Muslim Chaplain for United States Bureau of Prisons, Washington, DC. and I join alongside many American Muslims, working with Muslim student and youth organizations as well as schools for Muslim children. As such, I travel around the entire world lecturing and sharing the message of the Christ of the Quran in Islam. We hold dialogs and discussion groups with all faiths and enjoy the opportunity to work alongside rabbis, ministers, preachers and priests everywhere. Some of our work is in the institutional area, military, universities and prisons. Primarily our goal is to educate and communicate the correct message of Islam and who the Muslims really are. Although Islam has grown now to nearly tie Christianity as the largest of religions on earth, we see many of those who claim Islam as Muslims, that do not correctly understand nor properly represent the message of "Peace, Surrender and Obedience to God" [Arabic = 'Islam']



Dear me, I am afraid that I got a bit ahead of myself. I was trying to give a bit of background of our work perhaps to see if it would in anyway benefit those who may being going through what I experienced while trying to resolve some of the issues of Christianity.



How It Happened

This may seem quite strange, while we perhaps may share a few different perspectives and concepts of God, Jesus, prophethood, sin and salvation. But you see, at one time I was in the same boat as many folks are today. Really, I was. Let me explain.



Born A Strong Christian

I was born into a very strong Christian family in the Midwest. Our family and their ancestors not only built the churches and schools across this land, but actually were the same ones who came here in the first place. While I was still in elementary we relocated in Houston, Texas in 1949 (I'm old). We attended church regularly and I was baptized at the age of 12 in Pasadena, Texas. As a teenager, I wanted to visit other churches to learn more of their teachings and beliefs. The Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, Charismatic movements, Nazarene, Church of Christ, Church of God, Church of God in Christ, Full Gospel, Agape, Catholic, Presbyterian and many more. I developed quite a thirst for the "Gospel" or as we say; "Good News." My research into religion did not stop with Christianity. Not at all. Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Metaphysics, native American beliefs were all a part of my studies. Just about the only one that I did not look into seriously was "Islam". Why? Good question.



Music Minister

Anyway, I became very interested in different types of music, especially Gospel and Classical. Because my whole family was religious and musical it followed that I too would begin my studies in both areas. All this set me for the logical position of Music Minister in many of the churches that I became affiliated with over the years. I started teaching keyboard instruments in 1960 and by 1963 owned my own studios in Laurel, Maryland, called "Estes Music Studios."



Business Projects In Texas, Oklahoma and Florida

Over the next 30 years my father and I worked together in many business projects. We had entertainment programs, shows and attractions. We opened piano and organ stores all the way from Texas and Oklahoma to Florida. We had earned millions of dollars during those years, but could not find the peace of mind that can only come through knowing the truth and finding the real plan of salvation. I'm sure you have asked yourself the question; "Why did God create me?" or "What is it that God wants me to do?" or "Exactly who is God, anyway?" "Why do we believe in 'original sin?" and "Why would the sons of Adam be forced to accept his 'sins' and then as a result be punished forever." But if you asked anyone these questions, they would probably tell you that you have to believe without asking, or that it is a 'mystery' and you shouldn't ask - "Just have faith, brother."



Trinity Concept

Strangely enough, the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible. And it has been a concern for religious scholars as early as 200 years after Jesus was raised up by Almighty God. I would ask preachers or ministers to give me some sort of an idea how 'one' could figure out to become 'three' or how God Himself, Who can do anything He Wills to do, cannot just forgive people's sins, but rather and had to become a man, come down on earth, be a human, and then take on the sins of all people; keeping in mind that all along He is still God of the whole universe and does as He Wills to do, both in and outside of the universe as we know it. They never seemed to be able to come up with anything other than opinions or strange analogies.



Father - Ordained Non-Denominational Minister

My father was very active in supporting church work, especially church school programs. He became and ordained minister in the 1970s. He and his wife (my stepmother) knew many of the TV evangelists and preachers and even visited Oral Roberts and helped in the building of the "Prayer Tower" in Tulsa, OK. They also were strong supporters of Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Fae Bakker, Jerry Fallwell, John Haggi and the biggest enemy to Islam in America, Pat Robertson.



Distributing "Praise" Tapes for Jesus

During the early 1980's my Dad and his wife worked together and were most active in recording "Praise" tapes and distributing them for free to people in retirement homes, hospitals and homes for the elderly. We were really "winning souls to the Lord - for Jesus" day after day.



Met A Man From Egypt

It was early in 1991 when my father began doing business with a man from Egypt and told me that he wanted me to meet him. This idea appealed to me when I thought about the idea of having an international flavor. You know, the pyramids, sphinx, Nile River and all that.



He Was A "Mozlem"



Hijackers; Kidnappers; Bombers, Terrorists - and who knows what else?

Then my father mentioned that this man was a 'Moslem.' First, I hated the idea of meeting an "infidel, hijacker, kidnapper, bomber, terrorist, non-believer." Any normal person would be repulsed at the idea. I couldn't believe my ears. A 'Moslem?' No way! I reminded my dad of the various different things that we had heard about these people.



Lies Against Muslims & Islam - They Told Us, Muslims:



* They don't even believe in God

* They worship a black box in the desert.

* And They kiss the ground five times a day.



No Way! I Did Not Want to Meet Him!

I did not want to meet this 'Moslem' man. No way! My father insisted that I meet him and reassured me that he was a very nice person. This was too much for me. Especially since the evangelists that we used to travel around with all hated Muslims and Islam very much. They even said things that were not true to make people afraid of Islam. So, why would I want anything to do with these people?



Idea - "Change Him To Christian"

Then an idea came to me, "We can change this man to Christian." So, I gave in and agreed to the meeting. But on my terms.



Met Him With A Bible, Cross and Cap with "Jesus Is Lord!" on it.

I agreed to meet him on a Sunday after church so we would be all prayed up and in good standing with the Lord. I would be carrying my Bible under my arm as usual. I would have my big shiny cross dangling and I would have on my cap which says: "Jesus is Lord" right across the front. My wife and two young daughters came along and we were ready for our first encounter with the 'Moslems.'



Where Is He?

When I came into the shop and asked my father where the 'Moslem' was, he pointed and said: "He's right over there."

I was confused. That couldn't be the Moslem. No way.



Turban & Beard?

I'm looking for a huge man with flowing robes, a big turban on his head, a beard half way down his shirt and eyebrows that go all the way across his forehead with a sword or a bomb under his coat.



No Turban - No Beard - [No Hair at All!]

This man had no beard. In fact, he didn't even have any hair on his head at all. He was nearly bald. Best of all, he was very pleasant with a warm welcome and handshake. This didn't make sense. I thought they are terrorists and bombers. What is this all about?



He Needs Jesus

Never mind. I'll get right to work on this guy. He needs to be 'saved' in the 'Name of Jesus' and me and the Lord are going to do it.



Introduction & Interrogation

After a quick introduction, I asked him:



"Do you believe in God?"

He said:

"Yes." - (Good!)



Then I said:

"Do you believe in Adam and Eve?"

He said:

"Yes." - (Very Good!)



I said: "What about Abraham? You believe in him and how he tried to sacrifice his son for God?"

He said:

"Yes." - (Even better!)



Then I asked:

"What about Moses?"

"Ten Commandments?"

"Parting the Red Sea?"

Again he said:

"Yes." - (Better still!)



Then:

"What about the other prophets, David, Solomon and John the Baptist?"

He said:

"Yes." - (Great!)



I asked:

"Do you believe in the Bible?"

Again, he said:

"Yes." - (OK!)



So, now it was time for the big question:

"Do you believe in Jesus? That he was the Messiah (Christ) of God?"

Again the said:

"Yes." - (Fantastic!)



Well now - "This was going to be easier than I had thought."

He was just about ready to be baptized only he didn't know it.

And I was just the one to do it, too.



Shocking Knowledge - Muslims Believe in the Bible?

One day in the Spring of 1991, I came to know that the Muslims believed in the Bible. I was shocked. How could this be? But that's not all, they believe in Jesus as:



* A true messenger of God;

* Prophet of God;

* Miracle birth without human intervention;

* He was the 'Christ' or Messiah as predicted in the Bible;

* He is with God now and most important;

* He will be coming back in the Last Days to lead the believers against the 'Antichrist.'



After "winning souls to the Lord for Jesus" day after day, this would be a big achievement for me, to catch one of these 'Moslems' and 'convert' him to Christianity.



Cup of Tea - Discuss Beliefs

I asked him if he liked tea and he said he did. So off we went to a little shop in the mall to sit and talk about my favorite subject: Beliefs. While we sat in that little coffee shop for hours talking (I did most of the talking) I came to know that he was very nice, quiet and even a bit shy. He listened attentively to every word that I had to say and did not interrupt even one time. I liked this man's way and thought that he had definite potential to become a good Christian. - Little did I know the course of events about to unravel in front of my eyes.



Agreed to Do Business

First of all, I agreed with my father that we should do business with this man and even encouraged the idea of him traveling along with me on my business trips across the northern part of Texas. Day after day we would ride together and discuss various issues pertaining to different beliefs that people have. And along the way, I could of course interject some of my favorite radio programs of worship and praise to help bring the message to this poor individual. We talked about the concept of God; the meaning of life; the purpose of creation; the prophets and their mission and how God reveals His Will to mankind. We also shared a lot of personal experiences and ideas as well.



Moved to Our Home

One day I came to know that my friend Mohamed was going to move out of the home he have been sharing with a friend of his and was going to be living in the mosque for a time. I went to my dad and asked him if we could invite Mohamed to come out to our big home in the country and stay there with us. After all, he could share some of the work and some expenses and he would be right there when we were ready to go to out traveling around. My father agreed and Mohamed moved in.



Continued Ministry & Preaching

Of course I still would find time to visit my fellow preachers and evangelists around the state of Texas. One of them lived on the Texas -- Mexico border and another lived near lived Oklahoma border. One preacher liked to a huge wooden cross that was bigger than a car. He would carry it over his shoulder and drag the bottom on the ground and go down the road or freeway hauling these two beams formed in the shape of a cross. People would stop their cars and come over to him and ask him what was going on and he would give them pamphlets and booklets on Christianity.



Preacher Has Heart Attack

One day my friend with the cross had a heart attack and had to go to the Veterans Hospital where he stayed for quite a long while. I used to visit him in the hospital several times a week and I would take Mohamed with me with the hopes that we could all share together in the subject of beliefs and religions. My friend was not very impressed and it was obvious that he did not want to know anything about Islam. Then one day a man who was sharing the room with my friend came rolling into the room in his wheelchair. I went to him and asked him his name and he said that it didn't matter and when I asked him where he was from he said he was from the planet Jupiter. I thought about what he said and then began to wonder if I was in the cardiac ward or the mental ward.



Man in Wheelchair - Needed the Lord

I knew the man was lonely and depressed and needed someone in his life. So, I began to 'witness' to him about the Lord. I read to him out of the book of Jonah in the Old Testament. I shared the story of the prophet Jonah who had been sent by the Lord to call his people to the correct way. Jonah had left his people and escaped by boat to leave his city and head out to sea. A storm came up and the ship almost capsized and the people on board threw Jonah over the side of the ship. A whale came up to the surface and grabbed Jonah, swallowed him and then went down to the bottom of the sea, where he stayed for 3 days and 3 nights. Yet because of God's Mercy, He caused the whale to rise to the surface and then spit Jonah out to return back home safely to his city of Nineveh. And the idea was that we can't really run away from our problems because we always know what we have done. And what is more, God also always knows what we have done.



Catholic Priest

After sharing this story with the man in the wheel chair, he looked up and me and apologized. He told me he was sorry for his rude behavior and that he had experienced some real serious problems recently. Then he said that he wanted to confess something to me. And I said that I was not a Catholic priest and I don't handle confessions. He replied back to me that he knew that. In fact, he said: "I am a Catholic priest."

I was shocked. Here I had been trying to preach Christianity to a priest. What in the world was happening here?



Priest in Latin America

The priest began to share his story of being a missionary for the church for over 12 years to south and Central America and Mexico and even in New York's 'Hell's Kitchen.' When he was released from the hospital he needed a place to go to recover and rather than let him go to stay with a Catholic family, I told my dad that we should invite him to come out and live with us in the country along with our families and Mohamed. It was agreed by all that he would so, he moved out right away.



Priests Must Study ISLAM? - YES!

During the trip out to our home, I talked with the priest about some of the concepts of beliefs in Islam and to my surprise he agreed and then shared even more about this with me. I was shocked when he told me that Catholic priests actually study Islam and some even carry doctors degrees in this subject. This was all very enlightening to me. But there was still a lot more to come.



Different Versions of the Bible

After settling in, we all began to gather around the kitchen table after dinner every night to discuss religion. My father would bring his King James Version of the Bible, I would bring out my Revised Standard Version of the Bible, my wife had another version of the Bible (maybe something like Jimmy Swaggart's 'Good News For Modern Man." The priest of course, had the Catholic Bible which has 7 more books in it that the Protestant Bible. So we spent more time talking about which Bible was the right one or the most correct one, than we did trying to convince Mohamed about becoming a Christian.



Quran Has Only ONE Version - In Arabic - And Still Exists

At one point I recall asking him about the Quran and how many versions of it there were in the last 1,400 years. He told me that there was only ONE QURAN. And that it had never been changed. Yet he let me know that the Quran had been memorized by hundreds of thousands of people, in it's entirety and were scattered about the earth in many different countries. Over the centuries since the Quran was revealed millions have memorized it completely and have taught it to others who have memorized it completely, from cover to cover, letter perfect without mistakes. Today, over 9 million Muslims have memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover.



How Could This Be?

This did not seem possible to me. After all, the original languages of the Bible have all been dead languages for centuries and the documents themselves have been lost in their originals for hundreds and thousands of years. So, how could it be that something like this could be so easy to preserve and to recite from cover to cover.



Priest Goes to the Mosque

Anyway, one day the priest asked the Mohamed if he might accompany him to the mosque to see what it was like there. They came back talking about their experience there and we could not wait to ask the priest what it was like and what all types of ceremonies they performed. He said they didn't really 'do' anything. They just came and prayed and left. I said: "They left? Without any speeches or singing?" He said that was right.



Priest Enters Islam!

A few more days went by and the Catholic priest asked Mohamed if he might join him again for a trip to the mosque which they did. But this time it was different. They did not come back for a very long time. It became dark and we worried that something might have happened to them. Finally they arrived and when they came in the door I immediately recognized Mohamed, but who was this alongside of him? Someone wearing a white robe and a white cap. Hold on a minute! It was the priest. I said to him: "Pete? -- Did you become a 'Moslem?'

He said that he had entered into Islam that very day. THE PRIEST BECAME A MUSLIM!! What next? (You'll see).



My Wife Announces Her Islam!

So, I went upstairs to think things over a bit and began to talk to my wife about the whole subject. She then told me that she too was going to enter into Islam, because she knew it was the truth.



Shocked!

I was really shocked now. I went downstairs and woke up Mohamed and asked him to come outside with me for a discussion. We walked and talked that whole night through.



Truth Had Come!

By the time he was ready to pray Fajr (the morning prayer of the Muslims) I knew that the truth had come at last and now it was up to me to do my part. I went out back behind my father's house and found an old piece of plywood lying under an overhang and right there I put my head down on the ground facing the direction that the Muslims pray five times a day.



Guide Me! O God! Guide Me!

Now then in that position, with my body stretched out on the plywood and my head on the ground, I asked: "O God. If you are there, guide me, guide me."



Sign Inside of Me

And then after a while I raised up my head and I noticed something. No, I didn't see birds or angels coming out of the sky nor did I hear voices or music, nor did I see bright lights and flashes. What I did notice was a change inside of me. I was aware now more than ever before that it was time for me to stop any lying and doing anything sneaky. It was time that I really work at being an honest and upright man. I knew now what I had to do.



Wash Away the "OLD"

So I went upstairs and took a shower with the distinct idea that I was 'washing' away the sinful old person that I had become over the years. And I was now coming into a new, fresh life. A life based on truth and proof.



- And Become New!

Around 11:00 A.M. that morning, I stood before two witnesses, one the ex-priest, formerly known as Father Peter Jacob's, and the other Mohamed Abel Rehman and announced my 'shahadah' (open testimony to the Oneness of God and the prophethood of Muhammad, peace be upon him).



"I bear witness, there is no deity to worship, except Almighty Allah, alone and He has no partners and I bear witness that Mohammad is His messenger and servant."



My Wife Was Next

A few minutes later, my wife follow along and gave the same testimony. But hers was in front of 3 witnesses (me being the third).



Then My Father

My father was a bit more reserved on the subject and waited a few more months before he made his shahadah (public testimony). But he did finally commit to Islam and began offering prayers right along with me and the other Muslims in the local masjid (mosque).



Children Too!

The children were taken out of the Christian school and placed in Muslim schools. And now ten years later, they are memorizing much of the Quran and the teachings of Islam.



Father's Wife (Stepmother) Next

My father's wife finally acknowledged, before she died, that Jesus could not be a son of God and that he must have been a mighty prophet of God, but not God. She passed away within a few months of this statement at age 86. May Allah accept her statement of faith, ameen.



Houseful of New Muslims - What's Next?

Now stop and think. A whole entire household of people from varying backgrounds and ethnic groups coming together in truth to learn how to know and worship the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Think. A Catholic priest; a minister of music and preacher of the Gospel; an ordained minister and builder of Christian schools; and the children, even a great-grandmother - they all come into Islam!



His Mercy and Guidance

Only by His Mercy were we all guided to see the real truth of Islam, by removing the coverings over our ears and the blinders on our eyes, no longer having seals over our hearts - He was Guiding us now.



Amazing Story - Family and Friends Entering Islam - From One Man

If I were to stop right here, I'm sure that you would have to admit that at least, this is an amazing story, right? After all, three religious leaders of three separate denominations all going into one very opposite belief at the same time and then soon after the rest of the household.



More? - Yes! Baptist Seminary Student Reads Quran - Accepts Islam

But that is not all. There is more! The same year, while I was in Grand Prairie, Texas (near Dallas) I met a Baptist seminary student from Tennessee named Joe, who also came to Islam after reading the Holy Quran while in BAPTIST SEMINARY COLLEGE!





More? Yes. Catholic Priest Loves Islam - But Needs His Job!

There are others as well. I recall the case of the Catholic priest in a college town who talked about the good things in Islam so much that I was forced to ask him why he didn't enter Islam. He replied: "What? And loose my job?" - His name is Father John and we still pray for Allah to Guide Him.



Another Catholic Priest Makes Shahadah

The very next year I met a former Catholic priest who had been a missionary for 8 years in Africa. He learned about Islam while he was there and entered into Islam. He then changed his name to Omar and moved to Dallas Texas.



Any more? Again - Yes! Orthodox Arch Bishop leaves church for Islam

Two years later, while in San Antonio, Texas I was introduced to a former Arch Bishop of the Orthodox Church of Russia who learned about Islam and gave up his position to enter Islam.



Daughter of Hindu Pundit (Religious Leader) - Accepts Islam - Helping thousands to Islam

I met a woman in New York who wanted to make our CDs about "What Is Islam?" After giving her permission several years ago, I have learned she has produced and distributed over 600 thousand of these to the non-Muslims in America. May Allah reward her and keep her strong in her efforts, ameen.



Hundreds - Thousands - Still Coming

And since my own entrance into Islam and becoming a chaplain to the Muslims throughout the country and around the world, I have encountered many more individuals who were leaders, teachers and scholars in other religions who learned about Islam and entered into it. They came from Hindus, Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Greek and Russian Orthodox, Coptic Christians from Egypt, non-denominational churches and even scientists who had been atheists.



Why? Good question.

The combination always seems to be the same; people are sincerely seeking the truth and are willing to put their different prejudices and biases out of their minds and begin to ask God for His Guidance in their lives.



So, now you have the introduction to the story of my coming into Islam and becoming Muslim. There is more on the Internet about this story and there are more pictures there as well. Please take the time to visit it and then please take the time to email me and let us come together to share in all truths based on proofs for understanding our origins and our purpose and goals in this life and the Next Life.







9 Steps to Purify the Heart

May I suggest to the seeker of truth do the following NINE STEPS to purification of the heart?



1. Clean - your mind, your heart & soul - remove all prejudices & biases.

2. Thank God - for what you have - every moment of every day.

3. Read - a good translation of the meaning of the Holy Quran in a language that they can understand best. (http://islamtomorrow.com/downloads/noble...

4. Reflect on the meanings & consider the bounties of your Lord.

5. Seek - Forgiveness From God & Learn to Forgive others.

6. Ask - in your heart for Guidance from Above.

7. Open - your heart and mind.

8. Continue - to do this up for a few months. And be regular in it.

9. Avoid - the poison of evil while your heart is opening for the "rebirth of your soul."



Remember: Clean; Thank; Read; Reflect - then:

"Seek, and ye shall find. Ask, and it shall be given thee. Knock, and it shall be opened."

Then: Continue & Avoid



The rest is between you and the Almighty Lord of the Universe. If you truly love Him, then He already Knows it and He will deal with each of us according to our hearts.



ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS



Now as I promised here are the answers to the questions many have asked me connected with my choice of Islam:



1. "How could you have turned your back on the perfect plan of salvation of Jesus Christ on the cross for you sins?"



Answer: Your question implies you have not considered the similarities and teachings of the Bible and the Quran.



"ISLAM" means - "Surrender, submit and obey your Lord in sincerity and peace." Whoever is trying to do this, is a "MUSLIM." If someone believes in Almighty God as One God and One Lord and wants to commit their life to serving Him and obeying His Commandments, then that person will be in the right way and they will be "saved" according to God's Mercy. No one can take the sins of another and the guilty must stand accused for what they have done. It will be up to Almighty God to Forgive or Punish according to His Judgment on that Day.



According to the remains of the translations of the Bible [see: "Bible, A Closer Look"] Jesus, peace be upon him, did not preach a message of salvation by worshipping him. This was something added later by Saul (who later became Paul). We find clear statements indicating salvation would come only through acknowledging Almighty God as One God and worshipping Him with all the heart, mind and strength. Jesus, peace be upon him, taught his followers to worship "My God and your God, My Lord and your Lord."



Again, according to the remains of the English translation of the Bible, we see the one on the cross crying out a very blasphemous statement, "Eli! Eli! Lama sabachthani?" (Which being translated means, "My God! My God! Why have you forsaken me?") This statement on the cross clearly indicates the one on the cross is not pleased with the situation nor does he consider it right or just. Therefore, one would have to conclude this was not something Jesus approved of nor did he accept, or else someone else was on the cross in his place. Either way you look at it, the one on the cross did not accept this as a plan of salvation.



The Quran is absolutely in agreement with these teachings and Muslims do worship the same God and Lord of Jesus, Moses, Abraham and Adam, peace be upon them all. The Quran states in many places, no one will be taken to task for the sins of another, nor can anyone carry the burden of another. We will all be on our own on that Day. And I ask Allah to have Mercy and Forgiveness for all those who believe in Him, ameen.



I consider that I have not left the teachings of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him. On the contrary, I feel much closer to Jesus, peace be upon him, and I look forward to His return on earth more than ever before. Now I am worshipping the same God he worships and I serve the same Lord he serves, in the very same way he does. Jesus prayed to Almighty God and taught his followers to do the same. I am simply doing what he commanded to the best of my ability and ask Almighty God to accept it.



2. "Do you consider you were really "saved" and that you had in fact, been "born again?"



Answer: The Baptists have a statement, "Once saved, always saved." I asked one of them about this and he agreed it was true. Then I mentioned at one time I had become a Baptist (in my teen years) but now I was a Muslim. I had also been "saved" and baptized at the age of 12. I had accepted the very statement of Jesus being the way, the light and the truth and no man coming on to the Father except by him. I understood these statements to mean I must follow Jesus and his teachings. Therefore, I read the Bible for myself and did not let others tell me what to think about what I was reading.



The Bible states that Jesus prayed for salvation for himself in the garden of Gethsemane in this way, "Let this cup pass from me, even so, Thy Will be done." This prayer was repeated by Jesus, peace be upon him, a number of times and it is mentioned in more than one Gospel. Yet, according to Biblical accounts, the cup did not pass from him and his prayers were NOT ANSWERED. Islam teaches us his prayers were answered and he did not have to endure the cruel treatment and death on the cross, but rather he was taken up while still alive and is with Almighty God even now and ready to return in the Last Days to bring victory to the believers.



Additionally, we find Jesus, peace be upon him, teaching his disciples to pray like this, "Our Father in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name, Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from all evil. For Thine is the Kingdom and the Power and Glory, forever and ever, ameen." Every Muslim I have met accepts every single word of this pray with the exception of calling "Allah" our "Father." Muslims consider it better to call on Almighty God by His Names, which we do consider to be "Hallowed."



3. "How did your family respond to your conversion?"



Answer: This is always difficult for families to adjust to and it usually takes time. My family was no exception. Although my wife, children entered into Islam and eventually my father came to declare Islam to be the way of salvation for himself, still my own mother and many others in my family resented our going to Islam at first. Eventually, things became more normalized and we do stay in touch, although they are all still very much involved in Christianity.



Allah promises to test those who declare their faith in Him with many types of difficulties and family is one of those mentioned as a test in the Quran. I do pray for them and ask Allah to guide them to the very best in this life and the very best in the Next Life. But it is up to Allah if He wants them to be in Submission to Him (Islam means, submission to Allah) or not.



4. "How about your congregation? What did they say?"



Answer: I never had my own church. I was a music minister in the Church of God (Anderson, Indiana branch) in Texas and did my preaching to businessmen and informal gatherings. Those who knew me for the most part did not object and some even came to Islam, but there were a few who felt very upset and accused me of "Turing my back on Jesus, peace be upon him." No matter what I tried to say or do, these particular individuals would not listen nor did they want to learn anything about Islam.



5. "Did you experience a lot of difficulties in changing religions?"



Answer: Certainly anyone who wants to consider Islam in these times, just as in times gone by, will have to recognize there will be certain difficulties and tests along the way. The followers of Jesus, peace be upon him, were highly criticized and persecuted even until death (read what Paul said he used to do to them in the Bible; Book of Acts of the Apostles). Those who followed Muhammad, peace be upon him, suffered at the hands of their very own tribes, yet they were determined to continue to worship Almighty God Alone, without partners and submit to His Will.



The biggest problem with non-Muslims, is their lack of understanding and lack of knowledge as to what Islam is really all about and who the Muslims are supposed to be. I pray for them all and ask Allah to forgive the Muslims for not showing a better picture to everyone.



6. "Who was responsible for converting you?"



Answer: As Muslims we believe that it is only Allah who guides the people and whoever He guides will not be misguided and whomever He lets go astray none will be able to guide them. As such, it means we don't believe anyone really can "convert" someone else.



Also, we accept that all children are born in the natural state of submission to Almighty God and as such that means they are Muslims. Should a child die he or she would go to Heaven as they are not responsible for what they do not understand.



7. "Don't you ever think about coming back to being a Christian?"



Answer: "Christian" indicates a follower of Christ. When Jesus, peace be upon him, returns to earth in the Last Days, all the Muslims will be obliged to follow him. But we would not call ourselves "Christians" anymore than he would. He never called himself or his companions "Christians." The Bible tells us they were never even called "Christians" until Paul was preaching his message in Antioch.



8. "Doesn't it bother you to have left the way of peace, justice and love for a religion of hatred, violence and oppression toward women and others?"



Answer: All the prophets, peace be upon them all, called the people to worship Almighty God as One God and One Lord. As such, those who did not want to submit to Almighty God would combat them and treat them with hostilities, even unto death, as Paul had done while still being a Pharisee. The prophets, peace be upon them all, did encourage their followers to live in peace and deal with people in justice and certainly love is the highest form of emotion a human can have for another human being.



Yet at the same time, believers have to defend themselves, their families and the religion itself, lest those who are not believers should remove belief from the very face of the earth. Islam, like Christianity preaches a message of peace and tolerance - to a point. But when this is no longer possible without totally compromising and loosing one's way of life and belief system, then there is no alternative except to engage in open combat against those who are combating against the believers.



Jesus called upon his followers to sell their coats and buy swords. He explained that he did not come with peace, but rather a sword. He and his companions were engaged in mortal combat with their enemies, the Pharisees when one of the priests slaves had his ear cut by the sword. Jesus then told them to put down their swords. This is mentioned in the Bible.



The word "sword" appears over 200 times in the Bible - but even though the Arabic language has more than a dozen words for sword, there is not a single occurrence of any of these words anywhere in the Quran.



Combat is ordered in the Quran, only under very specific and limited conditions and it is nothing more than what we would today call "The War on Terrorism." Fighting against all acts of organized aggression, oppression, persecution and terrorism is an obligation on all believers. But it certainly has limits and women, children, elderly and any innocents are not to killed or injured during such occasions. Treatment of prisoners is not to be humiliating or torture of any kind. Even the dead of the enemy are to be buried with dignity and respect.



Now since writing my story and publishing here on the internet many other websites have picked up this story and it had become a famous example of how "Priest and Preachers Are Coming to Islam."



Again, I thank you for visiting. And I thank our Christian friend for his email. If he hadn't sent it, I probably would still not have completed this task of putting down the story once and for all of how my family, friends and myself all came to Islam.



Please feel free to share this story with others. You should print it out and make copies for everyone. Give them our links, add our story to your website or blog page, and send out emails to everyone you know. Maybe it could make a difference for others like us, God Willing.



May Allah guide you on your journey to all truth. Ameen. And May He open your heart and your mind to the reality of this world and the purpose of this life, ameen.



Peace to you and Guidance from Allah the One Almighty God, Creator and Sustainer of all that exists.

Your friend,



Yusuf Estes

Chaplain Yusuf Estes

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Scientists’ Comments on Scientific Miracles in the Quran:



The following are some comments of scientists1 on the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran. All of these comments have been taken from the videotape entitled This is the Truth. In this videotape, you can see and hear the scientists while they are giving the following comments.



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1) Dr. T. V. N. Persaud is Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, and Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences at the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. There, he was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy for 16 years. He is well-known in his field. He is the author or editor of 22 textbooks and has published over 181 scientific papers. In 1991, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. When he was asked about the scientific miracles in the Quran which he has researched, he stated the following:



“The way it was explained to me is that Muhammad was a very ordinary man. He could not read, didn’t know [how] to write. In fact, he was an illiterate. And we’re talking about twelve [actually about fourteen] hundred years ago. You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements and statements and that are amazingly accurate about scientific nature. And I personally can’t see how this could be a mere chance. There are too many accuracies and, like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



Professor Persaud has included some Quranic verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad in some of his books. He has also presented these verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad at several conferences.



2) Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA. Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA. He was also the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad :



{In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...}2



{If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....}3



He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad . Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:



“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad ) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



3) Dr. E. Marshall Johnson is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Developmental Biology at Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. There, for 22 years he was Professor of Anatomy, the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy, and the Director of the Daniel Baugh Institute. He was also the President of the Teratology Society. He has authored more than 200 publications. In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Johnson said in the presentation of his research paper:



“Summary: The Quran describes not only the development of external form, but emphasizes also the internal stages, the stages inside the embryo, of its creation and development, emphasizing major events recognized by contemporary science.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



Also he said: “As a scientist, I can only deal with things which I can specifically see. I can understand embryology and developmental biology. I can understand the words that are translated to me from the Quran. As I gave the example before, if I were to transpose myself into that era, knowing what I knew today and describing things, I could not describe the things which were described. I see no evidence for the fact to refute the concept that this individual, Muhammad, had to be developing this information from some place. So I see nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved in what he was able to write.”4 (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



4) Dr. William W. Hay is a well-known marine scientist. He is Professor of Geological Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, Colorado, USA. He was formerly the Dean of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science at the University of Miami, Miami, Florida, USA. After a discussion with Professor Hay about the Quran’s mention of recently discovered facts on seas, he said:



“I find it very interesting that this sort of information is in the ancient scriptures of the Holy Quran, and I have no way of knowing where they would come from, but I think it is extremely interesting that they are there and that this work is going on to discover it, the meaning of some of the passages.” And when he was asked about the source of the Quran, he replied: “Well, I would think it must be the divine being.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



5) Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer is Course Director and Associate Professor of Medical Embryology at the Department of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University, Washington, DC, USA. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Goeringer stated the following in the presentation of his research paper:



“In a relatively few aayahs (Quranic verses) is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development, such as classification, terminology, and description, existed previously. In most, if not all, instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the traditional scientific literature.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



6) Dr. Yoshihide Kozai is Professor Emeritus at Tokyo University, Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and was the Director of the National Astronomical Observatory, Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan. He said:



“I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in [the] Quran, and for us the modern astronomers have been studying very small pieces of the universe. We’ve concentrated our efforts for understanding of [a] very small part. Because by using telescopes, we can see only very few parts [of] the sky without thinking [about the] whole universe. So, by reading [the] Quran and by answering to the questions, I think I can find my future way for investigation of the universe.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



7) Professor Tejatat Tejasen is the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy at Chiang Mai University, Chiang Mai, Thailand. Previously, he was the Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the same university. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Tejasen stood up and said:



“During the last three years, I became interested in the Quran . . . . From my study and what I have learned from this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means. Since the Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write, Muhammad must be a messenger who relayed this truth, which was revealed to him as an enlightenment by the one who is eligible [as the] creator. This creator must be God. Therefore, I think this is the time to say La ilaha illa Allah, there is no god to worship except Allah (God), Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, Muhammad is Messenger (Prophet) of Allah (God). Lastly, I must congratulate for the excellent and highly successful arrangement for this conference . . . . I have gained not only from the scientific point of view and religious point of view but also the great chance of meeting many well-known scientists and making many new friends among the participants. The most precious thing of all that I have gained by coming to this place is La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, and to have become a Muslim.” (View the RealPlayer video of this comment Video Clip)



After all these examples we have seen about the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran and all these scientists’ comments on this, let us ask ourselves these questions:



Could it be a coincidence that all this recently discovered scientific information from different fields was mentioned in the Quran, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago?



Could this Quran have been authored by Muhammad or by any other human being?



The only possible answer is that this Quran must be the literal word of God, revealed by Him.


This content was originally posted on Y! Answers, a Q&A website that shut down in 2021.
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