Question:
Really America is this what we sunk to?
St.Jeb
2012-11-08 12:21:45 UTC
Voters for Obama and abortion, please take note of the following, do you also agree with killing babies?

"As originally proposed, the 2003 Illinois state bill, SB 1082, sought to define the term "born-alive infant" as any infant, even one born as the result of an unsuccessful abortion, that shows vital signs separate from its mother. The bill would have established that infants thus defined were humans with legal rights. It never made it to the floor; it was voted down by the Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired."
24 answers:
Voice in the Wilderness
2012-11-08 12:40:53 UTC
Yes. If we can't defend our foriegn Ambassadors and Navy Seals, what can we do for the unborn?



This is Amerika, and his highness Obama is the master. Life is defined by the Supreme Court, not God. Serve Obama and he will provide free health care, food stamps, a cell phone and a flat screen TV.



Oppose him and you'll starve without health care. Today on CNN I heard that Iranian piloted Russian jets have fired on American drones in international waters. Undoubtedly, Obama will apologize, he just has to find out WHO to apologize to. And today it is drones, tomorrow it will be US Navy ships. There will be no consequences or military response from the coward in Chief.



Bu the end of his second term, with the military cuts in store, Amerika will be ripe for being conquered by Russia or China, and Obama would give up without a fight.



The Voice
paddar
2012-11-08 12:32:44 UTC
He and every other pro-choice legislator voted it down because the bill sucked - the provisions about medical assistance were already in the law, and the rest of it was just a back-door, dishonest way to try to invalidate Roe v. Wade.



This was gone over FOUR YEARS AGO. Obama said "I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported – which was to say – that you should provide assistance to any infant that was born – even if it was as a consequence of an induced abortion. That was not the bill that was presented at the state level. What that bill also was doing was trying to undermine Roe vs. Wade."



Even fundies stopped promoting this lie four years ago, because they were thoroughly embarrassed by how badly they were spanked on this.



But here you are, butthurt and lying again. Get over it. You lost.
2012-11-08 12:45:13 UTC
Nonsense Jibber Jabber...





Standard answer to this one cos I'm sick of it...



*******************Ignore what doesn’t pertain to you*******************



EVERYONE is PRO-life... excepting maybe psychopaths.



I am PRO choice and you are ANTI choice... let's call it what it is...

Not some emotive term denigrating people who believe in freedom of choice.



It sounds very much like you're another willing tool of the religious right, driven by misogynistic wrinkled old men.



The modus operandi of ANTI choicers is to pick on the weak and vulnerable.

The ANTI choicers' main tools of trade are FEAR, GUILT, lies and hypocrisy.



I am against abortion BUT

1. I am a man; I should have NO say.

2. I am NOT that girl; I should have NO say.



I'm pro-choice, not pro-abortion…



Religion needs to stay out of a woman's vagina; it has no business there.



Only the terminally gullible believe that making abortion illegal makes it stop... it just drives it underground and kills more women.



There is nothing I can think of more barbaric than forcing a girl-woman to gestate unwillingly.



AND…



IF men could become pregnant, abortion would NOT be an issue and you know it.



Tony Abbott (Australian Catholic sexist politician): Abortion is the easy way out.

Yeah… right, Tony.



Addendum: “Our tax dollars already go into welfare, child protection programs, and abuse counseling for underprivileged children.

These are necessary programs, but wouldn't be great if they could be less necessary? If more children were wanted and were born to people who were emotionally prepared to be parents these and other programs would not be as flooded as they currently are by neglected, unloved children.

I'd rather pay for someone's abortion, than pay for 18 years of child care.

Giving women access to reproductive health choices, including birth control and elective abortion means healthier, happier families, and less strain on the tax payer.”

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NiJo
2012-11-08 12:35:34 UTC
I truly wish abortions never occurred. But I'm not prepared to advocate for their illegality. However, I could in no way counter the argument you put forth here. No one could argue an infant outside the womb isn't an individual with rights, whatever the mothers or doctors intentions were.
Tobias
2012-11-08 12:43:07 UTC
Mitt Romney is pro-abortion as well. George Bush, Jr. had the ability to fight abortion when he was in office, and he didn't do much to support Christian values while he was in office either. He was a skull and bones member and Obama claimed to be Christian, until people saw that his beliefs did not line up with the Bible. He made comments against the Bible in some of his speeches.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w
2012-11-08 13:44:27 UTC
i don't agree with abortion of a fetus after 2 months...

Obama is still much, much better than Romney or anyone the Republican Party has to offer.

Many Republicans don't seem to have a problem with war, and with any war innocent people are killed.

Including babies.

Google Iraq War Babies, go to Images
TheMadProfessor
2012-11-08 12:31:50 UTC
As previously pointed out, Obama turned down the bill because the federal one made it unnecessary while language snuck into the Illinois version could have made it ammo for pro-life idiots to try and prevent abortions.



Posting it repeatedly doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
Zasetsu
2012-11-08 12:48:23 UTC
No..what we have sunk to is to the point of listening to marginally educated whiners yap on and on and on about utter crap that is YEARS old...shouldn't you be more concerned with the christian priests who are protected pedophiles?

Is this the best you can come up with? 9 year old crap? and Obama holding a chair on the HHSC is another wasted breath...the COMMITTEE made the choices...Obama had no ability to over ride the decision of the GROUP of people involved..By your pathetically weak logic, we should be executing priests and burning their corpses...Really America..is this what we HAVE sunk to....You should have stayed awake more often in school.
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A.Mercer
2012-11-08 13:33:03 UTC
If you truly want to reduce abortion then you need to support proper sex education, advocate birth control, and remove social stigma on alternative forms of sex that have a much lower chance of pregnancy. If you do these things then I will know you are serious about abortion.
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2012-11-08 12:30:57 UTC
Since this single issue seems to define you, I suggest you move to either El Salvador or Nicaragua. Abortion is illegal under any circumstances in those countries.
Scouse
2012-11-08 12:26:46 UTC
So what are you trying to say? I've been on committees and they have voted for things I disagree with. In any event the chairman usually only has a casting vote which is traditionally used to favour the motion
John1
2012-11-08 12:31:04 UTC
He claimed it was wording he didn't like.



Use to be all life was sacred to doctors. And all possible medical was to be given to save a life. Now they can walk away from the born alive of a unsuccessful abortion with no repercussions. Even knowing some have been saved after with medical care.



Costly-yes



Yes, That's what we sunk too.
Roel
2012-11-08 12:24:51 UTC
I could change the definition of person to include bovines, does that make burger king's customers cannibals?
kenny.lane
2012-11-08 12:29:01 UTC
Shut up white man! Haven't you been paying attention? You've lost all your rights. Just keep paying taxes and keep your mouth shut! Obama has passed new laws to deal with guys like you!



And Me!
2012-11-08 12:39:07 UTC
all killing is wrong so give up your NRA and electric chair too
Slightly Cynical
2012-11-08 12:26:11 UTC
A partially-developed fetus is NOT a baby. If it doesn't have a beating heart, it's not alive.
manuel
2012-11-08 12:24:57 UTC
I'm sorry, I can't quite hear you over the sound of right-wing sobbing.
Le BigMac
2012-11-08 12:26:18 UTC
Asker, please take note, there are three branches of government, and the president cannot outlaw something ruled as allowable by the supreme court.
Andrew H
2012-11-08 12:28:53 UTC
Here's a suggestion for you: keep your nose out of other peoples' business.
2012-11-08 12:25:44 UTC
asker, we use abortion, as a way of weeding out idiots like yourself.



Go figure.
Queen Chrysalis the Grammar Nazi
2012-11-08 12:28:23 UTC
Would you like some CHEESE with that whine?
implumbus
2012-11-08 12:24:24 UTC
yup....people refuse to see the heart of a man who thinks killing a baby is a right women have....and people....who are stupid or ignorant or both voted for this man...thinking he cares about them....
Reileah
2012-11-08 12:30:06 UTC
Oh please. You probably beat your dog on a regular basis.



You're an idiot.


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