Are Evolutionists having to re-think things again - apes lived when man did, crocidile teeth sold as dinasour?

Question

The Evolutionist Saga began in 1859.

The story has changed so many times. Misidentification of bones and teeth continues to be the great plague of Evolutionists. How many fakes have they produced or mis-labled?

If Evolutionists were so secure that they were right, then they would talk openly about their failures and successes as well.

Nasa feels like it is a worthwhile organization, and it talks openly about it's failures, and wrong turns.

Why do Evolutionists sweep theirs under the rug, act as if it never happened, and lie about it blatantly?

Answer 1

Aaaah .... How right you are to see that evolution has been a process of learning. It has changed and changed from it's rudimentary beginnings and added to it's knowledge in leaps and bounds. It has often had to take a backward step to keep on a truthful path. Scientific method is a remarkable tool of discovery, isn't it....



And knowing this, do you think that science will ever learn enough to arrive at the conclusions of the Bible tales....? I'll bet you do.



How foolish of you.



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Answer 2

first of all, nobody is perfect. you can't deny everything they find just b/c they make mistakes. and the ones that come up with fakes are dismissed by the scientific community; they end up not changing anything.



second, there is no such thing as a scientific failure, and that is why they won't admit a failure. to put in the words of thomas jefferson [not the exact quote, but it's along these lines.] "when i tried 70 ways to make a lightbulb and they didn't work, it wasn't a failed experiment. i just found 70 ways not to make a light bulb. so i was one way closer"



the story has changed b/c scientists have never taken one idea and said "this is how it is and always will be". the purpose of science means being open to being flexible about your theories based on actual evidence.



example: if you have REAL EVIDENCE to think trees are going to fall down in 3 days, and the next day it turns out you have new evidence that says 5 days instead, then that's just b/c they took their study one step further and corrected themselves.



also, science doesn't take what one guy says and just believe it. religion does. science takes the collective of lots of professionals and tests a hypothesis in a controlled experiment over and over and over until all of them together come to the common conclusion that under those circumstances, that is always going to happen.



and evolutionists don't randomly just take species out of the chain or anything. they may change things around when they make a new DISCOVERY about their genes, or a new species discovered that should be in the place they are, or any variety of circumstances. even if you have the ability perfectly date bones. you still have to explore the specifics about the bones... the developement... comparing everything. things might bet mismatched. things may not get discovered for a long time. not long ago was it that scientists finally found the only difference between the Neanderthal and human skulls, which would be the placement of the vocal chords., resulting in finally having our first reasonable hypothesis as to why they are the species that failed [they couldn't communicate as well where their voicebox was]



lastly, if scientists of any kind ever found any proof, evidence, anything that even slightly indicated to god's existence, then it would be widely investigated. if many scientists agreed on it, then god would be scientifically accepted. but they haven't, so he's not. science doesn't base it's beliefs on 2000 year old men's imagination. it bases things on physical evidence.



one last thing... there were crocodiles in the time of dinosaurs, so with their dating could be easily mistaken.



also, what does apes living at the same time have to do with proving/disproving evolution? they still live smartass. evolution doesnt mean when a new species comes along, the one before it is just gone. if that's how it worked, we would only have one species on the whole planet.

Answer 3

Think your smart do you!! Well my smart A friend, the Crocodile is a Dinosaur that is how old the reptile is,but he was much larger than those of today !!pity you weren't alive then eh !!And i would much rather believe in evolution than the dribble that comes out of your scrawny cake hole ??

Now you will try to out do this true fact and sweep it under the carpet!! How many wrong turns can the Christian religion

take before they will admit to being mass murders of all the other religions.

You started this debate,now see if you can do something constructive with it ,and not just hearsay,as my theory came

from Australia Zoo the home of the real Crocodile Hunter~~

Steve Irwin !!

Answer 4

You don't seem to understand how evolution, or for that matter science, works. The first reply addressed your claims about 'evolutionists' lying. If you want to understand evolution better, I suggest you read a good textbook on it. If you want to criticise something, you should make sure you understand it first, otherwise you will just look foolish to those who do understand it.



Most creationist claims are misrepresentations. I have linked the Talk Origins archive, where most of these claims are examined.

Answer 5

Evolutoin bragged up and down about Piltdown man as well as Peking man. Both were fakes.



Evolution is forever changing. If you back track the history of Evolution, you'll find all kinds of "Theories" on how the Earth was created and other things that have been "altered."

Answer 6

You mean like the fake bones created by Creationists to support the existence of giants?



Evolution knows that apes live along with man. Man is a type of ape. Apes are creatures that look like us and don't have tails.



Evolutionists do admit their errors. That is why and how the theory is modified over time ... to remain in line with the evidence. That is the point of science ... to modify the theory as the body of evidence grows.



Unlike Creationism, which tries to modify the world and opinion to maintain its never changing saga in the face of conflicting evidence, Science recognizes its flaws and modifies its theories as they are shown inaccurate.



The fact that unscrupulous people might sell a crock tooth as a dinosaur tooth does not impugn science at all. Peddlers of artifacts are not scientists.



The saga of evolution began before 1859. People were discussing this theory prior to Darwin. He solidified it and championed it. He did not originate it.

Answer 7

Actually, no one lies blatantly. Lying blatantly is what Ann Coulter does to attack liberals and what your doing with this not-question. You already know why, that's why you're asking the question. Evolution is a scientific theory about a possibillity of how many organisms are the way they are, including humanity. We don't know, we all have different opinions. now stop using yahoo to attack people. that's an all new low.

Answer 8

Actually, you are deliberately lying since each of those hoaxes were exposed by scientists. Piltdown man was a hoax done by a landowner, not a scientist, who hammered together different bones. Scientists clamored for a look and he would not allow them near for a long time. Once Piltdown Man was subjected to scientific scrutiny, it was immediately declared a hoax. Nice try. Why are you forcing Nebraska Man onto Piltdown man, something that was made up by a newspaper editor yet blamed on scientists? The "boar's tooth" was found in Nebraska, Piltdown Man constructed in the UK. Creationists get more confused with their own lies day by day.



Nice try.



Evolutionary scientists sweep nothing under the rug. Go to a university and ask these same questions of a biology professor.



I am betting you do not have the courage to do so.



And beneath me, another fool who does not understand that all scientific theories are supported by FACTS or they are not theories.



Go do some real reading.

Answer 9

we share a uncomplicated ancestor. we didnt evolve from apes. nor did we "evolve faster than them" or "we stepped forward and that they didnt" as others have pronounced. there are a number of approaches for a species to seperate into various branches, the main prominant of that's geographic isolation. IE at one element there have been distinctive populations of this uncomplicated ancester, those populations seperated so as that they did no longer interbreed with one yet another and thusly they stepped forward seperately into 2 distinctive species based on the mutations and environmental standards placed upon those populations. additionally i'd upload that evolution isn't unavoidably in assessment to the judaeo-christian bible or the backyard of eden tale. in actuality, in case you somewhat had to interpret it in the variety of way you should assert that the backyard of eden is a parable for evolution. by way of this reading it turns into the main suitable "lack of expertise is bliss" tale, wherein humanity exits a metaphorical eden by way of the long technique of evolving to greater stepped forward brains that understand loss of life and suffering. the apple in this reading turns into the aptitude of girls human beings in our inhabitants to opt for a mate, thereby stearing evolution in the path it has long gone. supposing you desperate to have faith this: A. you will end finding like an fool who doesnt understand technological awareness and B. you will come to a greater ideal greater finished wisdom of the bible as an exciting determination of information, some historic acounts, yet lots of that are truly in trouble-free terms logically to be taken as parables.

Answer 10

Kind of like trying to sweep faith-healers and other such people under the rug? These type of people appear on both sides.

Answer 11

That's the great thing about science as a way of knowing things -- it freely admits that the theories it puts forth are the best explanation for the evidence we currently have; and that they're subject to change should new evidence come to light (or old evidence be discredited).



Now compare this to the religious mindset: where humanity supposedly reached the apex of its knowledge of the universe two thousand years ago; and if new information is discovered that conflicts with scripture, it is reality itself that MUST be wrong...



You go ahead and keep your mind and thought processes in the fourteenth century, if it helps you sleep at night; but if you ever get tired of being a benighted and backward rube, there's plenty of room up here with us in the 21st...

Answer 12

what you falsely described are Archaeologists / Paleontologists

you idiot



TO dspcfi :



Theories are based from FACTS .. it didn't come out of thin air. Its not just an idea.. a theory is based from facts.. gravity is a theory .. why dont the 2 of you read a book other then ur bible

Answer 13

actually most of what you call the plague of evolution is christians rewritting papers of people and the biographies of scientist after they die.... the christian habit of slander after death gives the impression to chirstians that there is flaws in evolution... but the rewritten works of christians are not considered in the real world...... the christians practice deceit at every turn... people should seek outside information when christians promote failures of others...

Answer 14

k well for one god made us in the image of hisself automaticly and this must mean that either you are saying god was a liar and we weren't made to look like him. or we changed from the already perfect look he gave us. and your saying that god looked like a monkey and has changed to what we look like now and that's completely untrue because he is the eternal being that never changes. so any of my choices make u evolutionists look extremely stupid. and they also make u blaspemous to god and his writings

Answer 15

I see no sweeping going on. Scientific thought evolves as new discoveries are made. Sometimes it is necessary to discard old, incorrect information.



I find that preferable to something that is supposed to be infallible (let's say the divine word of god, for example) and yet changes simply to remain relevant and palatable.

Answer 16

Wow, So you have proved that you don't understand evolution. Science is about disproving a hypothesis or theory, not accepting everything on face value.

Answer 17

When was the last time you put the bible down long enough to read anything about evolution?

Answer 18

Evolution is not even a theory. A theory is a idea that has some facts to back it up, Evolution has no facts to back it up.

The only proofs are ether honest mistakes, or deliberate lies.

The several stages of evolution have all been proven to be wrong.

1) Lucy.

A 3 foot skeleton of a chimp, the “evidence” that she was becoming human was her knee joint, which was found more then a mile away, and over 200 feet in the earth.

2) Heidelberg Man.

Built by a jaw bone that was considered to be quite human.

3) Nebraska Man.

Built from a pigs tooth

4) Piltdown Man.

The jaw was a modern ape

5) Peking Man.

Lived 500,000 years ago, but no remains were ever found.

6) Neanderthal Man.

Old Man with arthritis.

7) New Guinea man.

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8) Gro-Magnon Man.

Skeletal Structure is exactly the same as modern man.

Answer 19

the story is the same , it is only your perception that has changed

Answer 20

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/08/paleoanthropologists_disown_ho.html

Answer 21

Where did santan get these bones or did he creat them?

Answer 22

Because they're too ashamed to admit they have been wrong.



I mean, just look at the piltdown man, for example.



This "evidence" was actually planted so that it could be dug up later on as proof of evolution.



And yet it was based on the tooth of a dead boar! A PIG!!!!



Why don't the evolutionists admit they've been duped?

Answer 23

Evolutionists are still claiming evolution is a "fact" when in fact it is still technically a theory...I wouldn't expect them to be able to answer objectively on this question.