Atheists how do you refute this christian statement?

Question

THIS IS NOT ME, DO NOT ATTACK ME IM ATHEIST, THIS IS FROM A CHRISTIAN APOLOGIST.

''The bible and science doesnt contradict.

When God said ''let there be light'' big bang happened.

The bible says it took only seconds, the science says it took millions and millions of years.


But how much is a second to God? to God a second could be millions of years.

And we must not forget that there have been worng translations of the bible.''

Answer 1

There was no LIGHT in the big bang. It was utterly dark as there was no electromagnetic radiation anywhere near to the frequencies of visible light. The universe remained utterly dark until the formation of the earliest stars, which happened a long time after the initital expansion.



At the time of the initial expansion (the big bang) the electromagnetic radiation was at frequencies far above those we consider as deadly, like X-rays. And you can't see X-rays.

Answer 2

There is a clear contradiction between science and the Genesis story.



The 'let there be light' occurs on the first day, but the sun, moon, and stars are not created until the fourth day. Also, by the fourth day, the plants have already been created. This implies that the earth and plants were around before the stars formed, which obviously contradicts what we know from science.



It is also amusing that the Christian bible-god could 'see' that everything was good, even before any sources of light had been created (the fourth day).



In any case, you can find well-educated Catholics who would agree that the bible is contradicted by science. They will say it is a book about religion and morals, not science. And they would be right.

Answer 3

The problem (other than there is no evidence that suggests that a deity had anything to do with the big bang) is that billions and billions of stars formed and "died" before our sun and planet. It is also clear that plants, animals/insects and all other life forms evolved at the same time. This means that the Genesis account is utterly wrong, no matter how you try to redefine the length of the "creation day".



It is also illogical in many ways to assert that a complex, all powerful, all knowing god could always exist while claiming that the universe could not exist without creation.

Answer 4

-Words have meanings.-



A deity that cannot get straight the difference between days and billions of years is an idiotic and stupid deity. One that cannot tell the truth about the time cannot be trusted on anything more complicated.



As for the translations, well, a deity that CAN make a whole Universe, but CANNOT get it's words translated correctly, is also an idiotic and negligent being.



Such a lazy and useless being is not worthy of the least respect, never mind worship.

Answer 5

The bible can never be used to prove the bible.



Even if you don't want to BELIEVE the science, you have no right to REFUTE it unless you are either doing the research, have done some peer reviewed articles, or have seen the experiments first hand.



Christian logic when it comes to the big bang:

What created the Universe?

"God, because everything has to have a beginning!"

...What created God?

"NOTHING, HE DOESN'T NEED A BEGINNING".

Answer 6

I don't understand why anybody would believe anything from the Bible. It's just an ancient book of myths that was written by primitive men who believed that the Earth was the center of the universe, and it was flat and covered by a large solid dome called the firmament.



For thousands of years, people have said that their god was behind what they didn't understand -- life, lightning, stars, earthquakes, the origin of life, the world or the universe, etc. Positing a god to supposedly answer a question solves nothing. It just adds an unwarranted level of complexity and stops you from asking more questions.



There are many well-respected physicists, such as Stephen Hawking, Lawrence Krauss, Sean M. Carroll, Victor Stenger, Michio Kaku, Alan Guth, Alex Vilenkin, Robert A.J. Matthews, and Nobel laureate Frank Wilczek, who have created scientific models where the Big Bang and thus the entire universe could arise from nothing but a quantum vacuum fluctuation in the quantum field -- via natural processes.



I know that this doesn't make sense in our Newtonian experience, but it does in the realm of quantum mechanics and relativity. As Nobel laureate physicist Richard Feynman wrote, "The theory of quantum electrodynamics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as she is — absurd."



"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today."

— Isaac Asimov



"As far as I can see, such a theory [of the primeval atom] remains entirely outside any metaphysical or religious question. It leaves the materialist free to deny any transcendental Being… For the believer, it removes any attempt at familiarity with God."

— Georges Lemaître, Catholic priest who first proposed what became the Big Bang Theory



For more, watch the video at the 1st link - "A Universe From Nothing" by theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss, read an interview with him (at the 2nd link), get his new book (at the 3rd link), or read an excerpt from his book (at the 4th link).

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Answer 7

This is an attempted to interpret the Bible in a metaphorical way so as to reconcile it with scientific findings. Why bother to refute it? As long as that person is not pushing you to accept his interpretation, leave him alone.



Zvi the Jewish Fiddler

Answer 8

Because the big bang is also responsible for the creation of the planet and all living things which DOES contradict Genesis down to the tee.

Answer 9

There is nothing to refute. This is nothing but a few empty claims about a fairy. Why try to prove them wrong? They say nothing.

Answer 10

It doesn't really matter. There was no Garden Of Eden, and I don't think if there was a God he'd mind waiting billions of years for humans to keep him company. Plus, we have finally realized that something comes from nothing. We have got to stop saying matter cannot be created nor destroyed, because it can be created, from nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

Answer 11

While I am not a scientist, to say that something had to cause the big bang is saying two nothings happened rather than one nothing.

Answer 12

Can this person confirm that the bible was not translated improperly and YHWH didn't actually state:



"Let there be movie theater popcorn"



Because if that was true, I would convert.

Answer 13

By the time some folks learn how to behave themselves they're too old to do anything else.

Answer 14

It's not essentially "wrong," just highly unlikely that it is true since there is no evidence for it.

Answer 15

that's no big surprise.

the big bang theory was created by a catholic priest.