Question:
What's the deal with the new breed Christians who also support evolution?
2008-05-19 21:21:25 UTC
Support evolution in any form. -- How can you if you are Christian, or any religion with a detailed story of creation which does not coincide with evolution? You can't believe the story of Adam and Eve and at the same time support evolution. Right? Forget the obvious geological dating incongruencies in evolution theory and the bible- do you Christians assume that every other organism else evolves -- Except humans? How can that be? Or is there 'select evolution'? Or are you suggesting something else all together... like maybe god created ancestral apes and humans eventually speciated and evolved from them? But the apes would have had to evolve from something as well...
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Teresa (SFECU) -†- pray4revival
2008-05-19 23:06:16 UTC
At the risk of offending some, they are lukewarm Christians who unfortunately have little faith in God except when it's convenient. Rather than stand by God's word and risk being called a name like "fundie" they attempt to negotiate God's word. However, God does not negotiate. There is no such thing as a "christian-evolutionist". (Revelation 3:15, 16)
2008-05-20 04:39:58 UTC
Have you read the different texts that make up Genesis their English translation. If not, then you already are working with a shoddy version of Genesis.



As for your question, religion evolves. The history of Christianity, its pedagogy, theology, history, and texts demonstrate this aptly. But some people still find that Christianity appeals to them. However, they also find the wholes in Christianity's tradition irreconcilable to modern science, philosophy, and theodicy.



By adapting Christianity to include evolution, these Christians find a way to make their religion applicable to today's world.



This is nothing new. After all, the concept of Jesus as being the 'son' of God, and the concept of the en filique, or the holy spirit, literally divided churches, and is still contentious today.



I don’t believe anyone has it right myself. But don't scoff at others for doing what Christianity has always done.
virile romulus jedi ghoul
2008-05-20 04:29:45 UTC
I don't really know. Maybe the Christians are beginning to evolve some sort of intelligence within their group.

I understand what you are saying, though. There is a stereotype that all Christians are supposed to be intellectually challenged. Though this is not always the case, genuine intelligence and cognitive power is highly discouraged within Christianity. The Christians who begin to develop any depth of perception that would ordinarily be valued in a sane population are generally ostracized by their fellow Christians, and often times they are pushed outside of the group as well. This makes intelligence a poor survival strategy for the Christian.
PaulCyp
2008-05-20 04:27:41 UTC
Nothing new about it. Fundamentalism which demands that its members reject objective reality is new. Misinterpretation of the Bible is only a few hundred years old. Prior to that, all Christians knew the fullness of Christian truth in unity through the biblical pillar and foundation of truth, the one Church Christ founded for all mankind. Real Christians know that truth cannot contradict truth, and are fully secure in their Christian beliefs. Therefore they can freely accept scientific truth, knowing that it cannot conflict with religious truth. However, those whose religious beliefs are based on nothing more than unauthoritative personal guesses about the meaning of the Bible naturally hold many false beliefs, so no surprise that some of those false beliefs may conflict with scientific truth.
Eiliat
2008-05-20 04:28:42 UTC
Most Christians are intelligent and thus realize the truth of evolution. The Bible is full of metaphors. All of Genesis is metaphorical. Adam and Eve never truly existed.
Simon Templar
2008-05-20 04:28:57 UTC
It's a sign that the truth is encroaching and what does a powerless creed do when it is threatened? It absorbs the new threat and subtly alters it to fit its needs. So now the christian-evolutionists call Genesis an 'apochryphal story' and claim that evolution is a godly process.



Hey presto, enemy nullified and inner peace (for now).
2008-05-20 04:27:28 UTC
1.) The story of Adam and Eve is not detailed. Actually, there are two of them and they both do not match.

2.) It could be interpreted as figurative.

3.) Evolution is much more than "we evolved from monkeys."
2008-05-20 04:27:17 UTC
Well not every form of Christian believes the bible is completely 100% literal truth ya know...there are those that view it as a guide book via symbolic stories that aren't all factual.
2008-05-20 04:51:36 UTC
What if God designed the evolutionary process?



Then the biblical version of creation could be the "age appropriate" metaphoric version of a basic truth, yes?



Or, what if, yes, evolution applied to all other species, and God then invented Man and put him on the planet - and we're all the bastard children of the begetting of Noah and his kin?



I'm not advocating for such ideas - just offering that beliefs can vary - and that they don't necessarily have to be in conflict where "being right" isn't all that relevant to now.



The problem with religion vs science - especially in this issue - is that both groups value "being right" more highly than they value practical application and use of their respective ideas.



And, it's truly idiotic to argue over an unprovable issue the "rightness" of which isn't even relevant in and of itself to any practical application. The only use of "rightness" in this context relates to artificial power (of state or church or school) - and all of those are antagonistic to the free-thinking and success of the constituients in question.



Evolution - as the unquestioned ource of Man isn't relevant to understanding that we can watch it and manipulate it in flies and seagulls and microbes.



And, the idea of God as the origin of man isn't antagonistic to the observable evolution of microbes as necessary to build better antibiotics - in and of itself - until some wack-job preacher can't find the definition of 'METAPHOR' in the dictionary because losing that definition is practical to hoodwink the middle class of their savings for his new suit.



"Being right" and arguing unprovables - is useful mostly for various varieties politicians - whether they're dressed as politicians, priests, or teachers.



Others occupy themselves with learning how things observably work and finding better ways to work them...
babbie
2008-05-20 05:31:54 UTC
Oh, gee, another atheist trolling for a fight. What a surprise. Why do you people fight it? You obsess about Christ day and night, apparently, why not just get it over with and become a Christian? Then you wouldn't have to be so scared of Him that you feel the need to throw rocks at His followers.
Dixie
2008-05-20 04:27:51 UTC
Why can't you believe Adam and Eve and evolution at the same time?
Schnapper
2008-05-20 04:32:06 UTC
Outside of the USA, the number of christians who believe in young earth creationism is negligible, bro.
butterflybaby20082007
2008-05-20 04:34:21 UTC
I am sorry, maybe I shouldn't answer this because I don't know the answer but... I just want to say I have no idea and have been wondering the same... I agree.
2008-05-20 04:27:13 UTC
the Bible, genesis in particular isn't meant to be read as a Biology textbook, but of God revealing to man his true dignity purpose, and greatness...Genesis answers "Why" God created, evolution and science go into incredible detail as to "how" God created in my opinion. Science and faith are 2 sides of the same coin, open your mind to the fullness of truth, knowledge isn't limited purely on your five senses (science), but on the mind and soul of man--theology and philosophy. God bless!
Tayler T
2008-05-20 04:27:44 UTC
Whoa Duffy!!



Some of us are old breeds too!!





btw, i believe that adam and eve is symbolic of evolution
Demon of hand-writing analysis
2008-05-20 04:26:00 UTC
It's easy. I don't take the bible literally.
2008-05-20 04:35:43 UTC
Satan is still certainly his old crafty-self
Ark
2008-05-20 04:26:02 UTC
well atleast some of them started thinking for themselves...
2008-05-20 04:27:23 UTC
you said it "new' age, Jesus said I'm the same yesterday today and forever.

compromise will not cut it, either believe or don't
2008-05-20 04:25:17 UTC
they are intelligent


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