Why do most Christians think the bible says the lord our God is three? When it literally, plainly says, the lord our God is one?

Question

27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?

Behold, the lord our God is one lord.


5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

The entire Old Testament is Unitarian yet christians insist God is a trinity based on very vague scripture in the New Testament. Why is this?

Answer 1

Unfortunately, this is referred to as the Trinity. This doctrine is completely false. The Bible even contradicts this idea as well. In fact you will never find the word trinity in the Bible anywhere. In fact the origin of the trinity actually came from Babylon, the start of all false religion; we definitely do not want to pick up anything from them. Mark 13:32 says concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father. If the son and the Father are the same shouldn't there not be a difference in what they know or their intelligence. Proverbs 8:22 says Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. This scripture is basically saying that God made Jesus. Notice how the holy spirit isn't even mentioned in Mark 13:32, the holy spirit is not a person; it is like a tool. For example, God shaped and made the Earth using the holy spirit. Praying for holy spirit can give us the strength we need to get over and around obstacles and trials in our life. Read Proverbs 8:30, Acts 7:55-56, and John 14:28.

Answer 2

Like you said, though many people think it, the Bible simply doesn't support the trinity doctrine.



It is quite interesting to understand the origin of the trinity doctrine because it provides much insight. For instance, The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.



The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.



In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.



According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.



John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.

Answer 3

The word "trinity" is plainly a word we use to describe something we don't understand. It's easier to say "trinity" than trying to explain it all.



Here's some evidence supporting the trinity:

Genesis 1:1-2 NKJV

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep." Pay attention to this next part, "And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."

C'mon people. It says right there, "spirit of God." Evidence right there supporting God and the Holy Spirit. But, what about Jesus? Well, Jesus is God, the Bible says it multiple times. Then there's your three: The Father (God), The Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.

Answer 4

Not "most Christians think the Bible says the Lord our God is three". ALL Christians know the Bible says God is one God and the Trinity doctrine plainly states that.



It is "all Muslims, all Jehovah's Witnesses, all Mormons, all Unitarians etc think the Trinity doctrine teaches three gods.



Their inability to understand the Trinity doctrine is flaunted on this site, day in and day out. They believe misinformation and disinformation about the Trinity doctrine and ridicule those who accept that the ONE Being of God subsists in the three uncreated persons of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. None of that clashes with the Bible saying that the Lord our God is one, but if you are determined to mock, I am determined to ignore your mocking. You have, however, been told the truth now.

Answer 5

I suppose you could think of it more as the Trinity being three personalities of one God. God is omni-potent, which means He has unlimited power and can do anything, so why not have three separate personalities?



I'm seeing all this saying there is no evidence to support it? What do you make of the Holy Spirit, then? Either the Holy Spirit is part of God (the Trinity) or there is another god, which the scripture you quoted says there is not. Now on to Jesus.

Jesus was the perfect man, sinless and absolutely perfect, that's the only way He made a fitting sacrifice for the world's sin (a perfect lamb, in the fashion of Old Testament sacrifices). There's no way He could have been perfect without being God, because "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". So again, either Jesus is part of the one God (the Trinity) or there is another god, which we know there is not.

Now for the bible.



Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:



2 Corinthians 13:14 - The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.



If those don't do it..



1 John 5:7-8 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



Colossians 2:9 - For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.



1 Peter 1:2 - Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.



John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.



John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.



Romans 5:8 - “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”



1 Timothy 6:14-16 - “our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing, which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.”



Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ



1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.



John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”



Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” (which is translated, “God with us.”)



No proof of the trinity, eh?

Answer 6

Because they are a triune godhead. Three who are One -- one is spirit, mind, character, and purpose. 1 John 5:7 tells us who the three are (and Revelation 19:13-16 identifies the living Word as Jesus Christ). Even in Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew word for God there, is the plural term Elohim. So even the Old Testament tells us that the godhead is a plurality. But hold on to your hat -- John 1:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-4; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:13-16; and Hebrews 1:2 all tell us that Jesus is our Creator. He is Jehovah -- but Jehovah is not the Father (unlike what the common mistakes of popular Christianity teach us). Colossians 2:9 also informs us that in Christ Jesus dwells all the fullness of the godhead, bodily. Meaning that He is both fully human and fully divine.

Answer 7

Acts 7

44 “Our ancestors had the tabernacle of the covenant law with them in the wilderness. It had been made as God directed Moses, according to the pattern he had seen. 45 After receiving the tabernacle, our ancestors under Joshua brought it with them when they took the land from the nations God drove out before them. It remained in the land until the time of David, 46 who enjoyed God’s favor and asked that he might provide a dwelling place for the God of Jacob.[k] 47 But it was Solomon who built a house for him.

48 “However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:

49

“‘Heaven is my throne,

and the earth is my footstool.

What kind of house will you build for me?

says the Lord.

Or where will my resting place be?

50

Has not my hand made all these things?’[l]

51 “You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit!



Revelation 3:20

Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

Answer 8

God is one. However there is more than one aspect to God, and more than one role He plays in our lives (for lack of better terminology). If everything that Jesus did was of the Father, and everything He said was of the Father, what part of the Son can you separate from the Father?

The more I read, the less important the distinction seems, and the more important it is to know and love our one, infinite God. These divisions in the church are not good for us. We can come together and discuss them in peace in-house, but they shouldn't be standing in the way of serving side-by-side.



"Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow. ... Even angels long to look into these things." (1 Peter 10, 11, 12b)



"But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless." (Titus 3:9)



“Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and most important commandment. The second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37–40)

Answer 9

I wonder why this argument continues. Whether you believe that there is only God the Creator or the triune God, changes nothing where salvation is concerned. I'm certain that God is not in Heaven saying, "If those guys don't get it right then I'm done with them.". Too many Christians get all bound up in stupid theological arguments among themselves and miss the fellowship with each other and God.



Jesus railed against the Pharisees. They are no longer in existence in Judaism. But Christianity has replaced them by dividing itself into denominations, with absolute unbending denominational dogma, while picking nits off their brothers in Christ. No wonder the lost laugh at us.



This question gets asked repeatedly and answered. One would think that by now, the argument could end and the focus could be on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Sadly........it hasn't.

Answer 10

The passage regarding baptizing in the name of the Father, Son and holy Spirit.

"The Father, the Woprd and the Holy Ghost, and these three being one"



Some that belive the watchtower, Brooklyn and watchtopwer are one again have false doctrines as well as

the normal confusion that false brethren bring.



To antichrist doctrines of Jesus Christ deniiers in other religions ..that oneness is a nil and annullment of salvation whereby ommissions to Jesus Christ seem a paramount ply of deceptiopns,

At times a non revelation to people and other times by satn blining the eyes of unbelievers to the glory of Jesus Christ.

Thus the scripture," the god of this world blindeth the eyes of unbelievers to the glory of Jesus Christ"

As Jesus Christ prayed that understanding be given the apostles in the Word, so too should we pray that God through Jesus Christ reveal multitudes the truth of Jesus Christm and the plan of salvation to peole.

BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THAT THESE THREE ARE ONE..WE SHOULD EXCEPT AND UNDERSTAND THE HOLY SPIIRT IS PART OF THE GODHEAD. JUST AS THE WORD OR BIBLE IS PART IOF GOD.

Answer 11

Genesis 1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.



Genesis 2 - 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



John 1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,



There you have 3 in one. Body, soul and spirit.

Answer 12

So, are you planning to compete in the Cluelessness events at the next Olympics? Christians do NOT believe that God is three, and the fact that you have so thoroughly misrepresented us shows that you don't even understand the basics of the doctrine of the Trinity. "Three persons, one substance" does not mean three gods any more than the fact that "Elohim" (one of the two main words for God in the Old Testament) is a plural noun means that God is not one.

Answer 13

Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all united in the one Godhead. Within the unity of the One and only God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, there are three Persons, the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit; and these three share the same Nature and attributes. In effect then, the three Persons are the One God.

Answer 14

Because Protestant Christians accept the Holy Apostolic Tradition of the Catholic Church but do not want to admit it.



The doctrine of the Holy Trinity states there is one true God who is made up of three separate but equal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.



The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments. For many biblical references, see: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11239928/Trinity-Outline



Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three equal persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity in 325 C.E. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed. Later, the Holy Spirit guided the same Church to select which documents would become the Bible.



How the Blessed Trinity works is not fully known and is one the Christian mysteries.



The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is shared by over 2 billion souls, 99% of everyone who call themselves Christian including Roman and Orthodox Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals, Episcopalians, and the Salvation Army.



Non-Trinitarian churches make up less than 1% of those who call themselves Christian and include Christadelphianism, Christian Science, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Arian Catholicism, Unitarianism, Nontrinitarianism, and Oneness Pentecostals.



For more information, see Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 232 and following.



With love in Christ.

Answer 15

The Trinity is one of the easiest things to accept but the most difficult to explain. Three Gods in one each part united and each part having al the attributes of the other. To get anywhere near understanding it the fact that God is a god with no limitations

Answer 16

There is only one God. The Son is Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of Him, God. so where do you get three Gods, that just is not so.



The bible teaches and tells of these three, but not making three Gods. only one who is God the Father. it is one thing to mutter trinity doctrine, it is another to dissect it to understand it.



Christians are not running around saying they worship three Gods as they Know God is One God. Jesus never claimed to be a God, and the Holy Spirit is a Spirit, not a God. it is simple.

Answer 17

Perceptions vary among devotees. Some have faith about trinity God. As you say, some only believe in one Jesus. These things are basically left to the sweet-will and choice of the true devotees.



The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (from Latin trinitas "triad", from trinus "threefold") defines God as three consubstantial persons, expressions, or hypostases: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit;

Answer 18

The GOD as

1: Passive: Before creation (The one before the idea of intention of creation)

2. Intention: The Will or the energy being of God to create is also God

3. Created: The dream state or the creation that manifests through this intent is also GOD and nothing else. Be it a flower, or a gun.

Answer 19

That is from Deuteronomy 6:4, it is a Jewish belief. It is not kept in Christianity. The Catholic Church broke the first two of the Ten Commandments (as well as Deuteronomy 6:4) when they took a prophet (Jesus) as God. They also had the Holy Spirit, and Mary as Gods; in addition to 5,120 saints worshiped as Gods.

Answer 20

actually in Geisis 1:1 and all of the other verses, the heberw word used for God is "Elohim" which is plural in form but singular in meaning. also, in the hebrew bible the word "Elohim" is always followed by a singular verb and a singular pronoun. this clearely indicates that God is one.

secondly, Jesus did not come to change the law of Moses, and Moses only had one God, not 3 or 3 in 1.

if you look into the history of the bible and th3 hebrew bible you'll find that God is one, not 3.

Answer 21

You are mistaken regarding what Christians think.

The doctrine of trinity *explicitly* teaches that there is only one God.

Which, obviously, is in complete agreement with the phrase "the lord our God is one".



Conclusion: learn what the trinity teaches before you attempt to challenge again - or you will end up doing again what you have done here, in a failed attempt to challenge the doctrine of trinity, quoting Bible passages that agree exactly with what the doctrine of trinity teaches.

Answer 22

On the other hand, God also clearly states in Isaiah 43:11 that, "​I, I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior." So... who exactly does that make Jesus Christ, Savior and Lord then? Does God lie?



The truth is caught somewhere in between what you are taught of man's opinions of God--and what God truly meant. He's patiently waiting for you to ask HIM what HE thinks, and to wait for the answer. Do not ask us. We are not Him.

Answer 23

God is One and God is three

since God is eternal Love he must be more than one person

A right reading of the New testament supports the trinity

Answer 24

Actually it's the basic tenant of Christianity that there is ONE God - not three gods. The divine nature of the One God who is the creator of all is different then the nature of us created human beings - which makes sense.



You seem to misunderstand the concept of the Trinity. It explicitly includes the understanding that the Triune God is one.

Answer 25

The Lord our God is ONE with 3 divine nature: God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit, yet One.

Yes, elohim is plural in nature: thus it is right when God [singular] said: Let US [elohim] make man...defines the trinity aspect of God. Awesome!

Answer 26

You think so- Psalm 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet."

Answer 27

The Bible uses word pictures so mistakes of language won t be made. These three Scriptures demonstrate the 3 persons of the Godhead. They are separate personalities yet one in purpose and unity. The word ELOHIM used in Genesis is a Hebrew plural word meaning "Gods"



Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.



Luk 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.



Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.



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Answer 28

hence the trinity. The bible is clear that there is one God, but it also claims the Son as God and the Spirit as God in addition to the Father

Answer 29

"Most Christians"? Could you please take the time to prove that most Christians believe God is three? Most Christians I know and have studied with believe God to be one. They also believe Jesus to be one and the Holy Spirit to be one. They do believe that they work with a concerted effort to the same goal which is to build Gods Kingdom on earth.



They are one in purpose only.

Answer 30

Actually the bible LITERALLY says God is a unity.



It does not say he is "one" in hebrew, it literally says "God is a unity". Of course that's not enough to convince the average man but don't say there is no basis for the claim.

Answer 31

I and the Father are one. John 10:30

Answer 32

Unless one is Full of HIS Spirit, they will continue to follow the doctrines of men...it takes God to open up their eyes to reveal His Truth in His Word....and why so many are following every doctrine that tickles their ears.

And why many quote scripture and try to force their reasoning in it, when all they do is show their fallacies and Gods Truth

The Trinity Doctrine is an excuse and a man made assumption of the things of God...rather than take Gods word in it's entirety and stand on what HE said Himself they write in what they desire to explain it and excuse it away...that is How the Trinity doctrine came about.

Sadly many other doctrines have followed it and why we have thousands of religions and buildings they claim as God's on every street corner and yet Refuse to take God at What He said when HE said"the Most High does NOT dwell in temples made with hands " yet every preacher and every religious group swears God is in theirs....

Again that is how the Trinity Doctrine came about...even Israel when commanded concerning what God said they always made excuses and twisted it to suit themselves.....and why God scattered them...bit still loved them enough to promise He would bring those back to the land of Promise that obeyed His Voice.



Man still does it today...Gods Word says it and they excuse it and make their own explanation of scripture fit their doctrine, group or religious ideology.

Answer 33

3 spirits work together as God the Father, His Son, and Holy Spirit which cooperates as one. God created us, Jesus saved us, and the Spirit is like the messenger that comes down to Earth for us when we need him. It's really beyond our understanding.

Answer 34

semantics. Being ONE with God is plurality of the godhead. aiui. but God and jesus are separate personages. distinctly two different personalities. two separate lives! but there are 3 that rule in heaven, still, God the Father Is ONE God. and now that Jesus is ascended and is given the throne, He is also one with full authority and will be OUR God and OUR Lord and we will be his sons. see rev 3:21 and 21:7

Answer 35

Then explain :



Genesis 1V26:"And God said, Let "US" make man in "OUR" image, after "OUR" likeness: and let them have ......"



Please read this Torah writing and explain to the NT followers--what the interchanging of the pronoun US where God is talking ---and creating at the same time---REFERRING TO--thank you.



"The Spirit of God" is a clear reference to the creative activity of the Holy Spirit.



John 1:3: indicates that Christ actually created all things for the Father.



Thus, all three persons of the Trinity are active in the Creation.



This undoubtedly ACCOUNTS for the PLURAL NOUNS "US" and "OUR" in Verse 26 of Genesis Chapter 1 which takes SINGULAR VERBS in expressing the tri-Unity of God.



Matthew 28V19:"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the NAME (and not NAMES) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"



Jesus Christ the Son of God Himself giving this command and interpreting Genesis 1 V 26 Ultimately.

Answer 36

John 14 is full of Jesus claining that he and the the Father are ONE. The very first word in john 1:1 claims that.

Answer 37

It's all this "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" rubbish that religious nutters keep trotting out. The verifiabvly truth is thast there is no god of any kind.

Answer 38

I don't believe that most Christians do hold that consensus, plainly from hearing that though we trust & believe in God, it's thereabouts said in various wording from "God is perfect" or "God is beyond human comprehension" we practically cannot comprehend God's Imagery to God's Own Personification though we are OF God's Own Personification.

Answer 39

Ecclesiastes 3:10,11,

10, I have seen the burden

God has laid on men.

11, He has made everything beautiful in its time.

He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they

cannot fathom

waht God has done from beginning to end.

(Ecclesiastes 1:18, ))) For

with much wisdom comes much

sorrow;

the more knowledge, the more

greaf.

Answer 40

As best as I understand it. Trying to understand the nature of God would be like trying to teach Quantum mechanics to an infant. It is so far above us that we try to explain it in terms we can understand. That's why when God did appear to us it may of been "a burning bush" or something else. I don't try to understand his nature, I just try to understand what he's trying to tell me.

Answer 41

That, was a "dogma" established by the Catholic Church through Augustine, circa 325AD, and spread through the division through the centuries to all those who descend from the whore of Babylon. The Scriptures say nothing of the sort.

Answer 42

The scripture Deut.6:4 states in Hebrew - "YHVH Elohim echad YHVH"



YHVH - Yehovah

Elohim - plural name of God in the Bible

echad - united as one, or one



The scripture you use is in context comparing the difference between Elohim and pagan gods which are not united but described in their mythological theology as constantly fighting against each other.



Such pagan gods are not in any way describing the Biblically stated Godhead (Colos.2:9, 1:19; John 1:16) which is commonly known of today as the Trinity.



Jesus Christ who said "I and the Father are one" in John 10:30, also told His disciples in Mat.28:19 "Go into all the world and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the Name (singular) of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Spirit."



Father - #1

Son - #2

Holy Spirit - #3



Jesus prayed in John 17:21, speaking of believers, "That they all may be one as You Father are in me and I in You, that they also may be in US."



And also in John 17:11, "Holy Father, protect them by the power of Your Name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one."



The new testament teachings, doctrine, and theology of Trinity do not violate the old testament scriptures.

Answer 43

It's THREE people/spirits making ONE God.

Answer 44

Christians don't believe in trinity, they believe what the Bible says, "Hear of Israel, Jehovah God is ONE GOD..." And John 17:3 "This means everlasting life their taking in knowledge of you the ONLY TRUE GOD, AND the one you sent forth, JESUS CHRIST..."

Answer 45

In the same way that Richard Branson or Bill Gates are the head of their companies. At the top of both of their companies, they have people to help them in areas they don't understand. That's pretty much what a trinity is.

Answer 46

Because according to christian maths 3 = 1 LMAO. And the definition of monotheism in christian dictionary is "The worship of 3 gods" LMAO again...

Answer 47

Your claim of OT is Unitarian is false.



The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. (‭Psalms‬ ‭110‬:‭1‬ KJV)



Which lord is the lord talking to here.

Answer 48

Dear Friend,



Jesus Christ "is" God. However, He came to earth as "sinless" Man.

The word Trinity is defined in the dictionary as:



1. The Christian Godhead as One God in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

2. A group of three spiritual Persons



God is a Triune God: Three spiritual Persons in One.



The Trinity consists of: God, the Father (Jehovah). God the Son, Jesus (Lord and Savior). And God the Holy Spirit (all Power).



One of the best ways to describe the Trinity is the example of an egg. An egg has 3 parts. The shell, the yolk, and the white. All three can be used independently from one another and yet, still be called...an egg. The Trinity of God is One, yet can be separate and used independently as well. We call 'an' egg...an egg. One. But it has three distinct parts to it. God is Triune God with three distinct parts to Him. He is Spirit, not 'like'...us.



"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father (Jehovah God), the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost (Spirit/Ghost) all Power: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 (Three in One = Trinity)



Jesus said, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" Matthew 28:19 (Three in One = Trinity)



2 Corinthians 13:14 "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen" (Three in One = Trinity)



*All three Persons of the Godhead were involved in the work of creation.*



"God ...created the heavens and the earth" Genesis 1:1.



"The Spirit of God (Holy Spirit/Ghost) was hovering over the face of the waters:" Genesis 1:2.



And "All things were created through Him (Jesus) and for Him (Jesus)." Colossians 1:16b.



"I have given them the glory You (Jehovah God) gave Me (Jesus), so they may be one as We are One." (John 17:22 NLT)



"Now, Father (Jehovah God), bring Me (Jesus) into the glory we shared before the world began." (John 17:5 NLT)



Tender blessings,

Answer 49

So, you don't think that God can make three and one be the same thing at the same time?



That means you don't believe God is all powerful, which the Bible clearly says He is.



Welcome to heresy and damnation. Population: You.

Answer 50

Transliterated from the Hebrew, it says, Adonai echad. The word "echad" has a range of meanings. Do your best and exegete the passage.

Answer 51

Because it is a basic Christian tenet to believe the Trinity.

If you don't believe that then you are a Unitarian and not a Christian.



There are other differences, too, but this one is pretty basic.

Answer 52

Only some religions believe the trinity...It simply is not supported by scripture...So those that do have to be false...the main one being the RCC.

And their time is limited...

(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.

Answer 53

the 'trinity' as it is taught today is not in the christian canon (official new testament). it was adopted over 200 years after the canon was written. and people confused it with other religions.

Answer 54

I would argue that most Christians do not say that and that is a Straw Man Fallacy. And if a person says that they have not understood the Trinity.

Answer 55

3 = 1, hello.



Basic mathematics.

Answer 56

Because they have bought the "trinity doctrine" hook, line and sinker!

Most people would rather fight, scream and have a hissy fit than admit they're wrong..

Answer 57

Because it was written by dozens of different authors over thousands of years, filled with hundreds of contradictions. No two people totally agree and there are over 40,000 different recognized sects of Christianity.

Answer 58

Religion is about "people" not gods hence different sects were created to appease varying levels of

Answer 59

Yes....the Godhead is "One" In purpose, power and unity - just as Christ admonished the saints to be "ONE" as He and the Father are one. Clearly you don't get it.

Answer 60

Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.



Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.



Romans 14:8-12 in it's context 8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.



9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.



10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.



11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.



12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.



Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.



Isaiah 7:41 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.



Jesus Christ when he left promised He would send another who is the Holy Spirit. And he would testify of Jesus Christ. Remember that the gospels and the epistles are all about the new covenant with believers about Jesus Christ as savior of this world. But he also will be the judge of this world too.



Jesus did by nature things that man could not do. He was born of a virgin. He did mighty miracles like raise the dead; cast out devils; walk on water; feed 5000 and 3000 with but a few bread and fish; calmed the storm; arise from the dead; forgive sins; send the gift of the Holy Spirit to his followers. These are all supernatural things that are divine by nature.



God is one. Of course. But he manifests himself to mankind in these three ways. For great is the mystery of godliness. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. And Paul says this in Colosians 2:9 For in him (Jesus Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. That is God the Father; God the Son; and God the Holy Spirit.



The qualities of God is like water that when hot can be a gas or steam; normal temperature is liquid; and when frozen is like ice and hard. Three manifestations of water but at different temperatures.



Or myself as an example. I am a father to my children; a son to my parent; and a brother to my siblings or a husband to my wife. Three manifestations of the same person.



I hope this helps. God bless.

Answer 61

"They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." (Koran)

Answer 62

Is Jehovah a Trinity -three persons on one God? No! Jehovah, the Father, is "the only true God." (John 17:3; Mark 12:29)

Jesus is His firstborn Son. and he is subject to God. (1 Corinthians 11:3)



The Father is greater than the Son. (John 14:28)



The holy spirit is not a person; it is God's active force. - Genesis 1:2; Acts 2:18.

Answer 63

Ignore Christians. When they are defeated they say "If you look at it in this context"

Answer 64

What is the Trinity?

by Matt Slick



The word "trinity" is a term used to denote the Christian doctrine that God exists as a unity of three distinct persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of the persons is distinct from the other yet identical in essence. In other words, each is fully divine in nature, but each is not the totality of the other persons of the Trinity. Each has a will, loves, and says "I" and "You" when speaking. The Father is not the same person as the Son, who is not the same person as the Holy Spirit, and who is not the same person as the Father. Each is divine, yet there are not three gods but one God. There are three individual subsistences or persons. The word "subsistence" means something that has a real existence. The word "person" denotes individuality and self-awareness. The Trinity is three of these though the latter term has become the dominant one used to describe the individual aspects of God known as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.



Included in the doctrine of the Trinity is a strict monotheism which is the teaching that there exists in all the universe a single being known as God who is self-existent and unchangeable (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6, 8). Therefore, it is important to note that the doctrine of the trinity is not polytheistic as some of its critics proclaim. Trinitarianism is monotheistic by definition, and those who claim it is polytheistic demonstrate a lack of understanding of what it really is.



The Trinity

God is three persons.

Each person is divine.

There is only one God.

Many theologians admit that the term "person" is not a perfect word to describe the three individual aspects/foci found in God. When we normally use the word person, we understand it to mean physical individuals who exist as separate beings from other individuals. But in God there are not three entities nor three beings. God is a trinity of persons consisting of one substance and one essence. God is numerically one. Yet, within the single divine essence are three individual subsistences that we call persons.



Each of the three persons is completely divine in nature though each is not the totality of the Godhead.

Each of the three persons is not the other two persons.

Each of the three persons is related to the other two but are distinct from them.

The word "trinity" is not found in the Bible, but this does not mean that the concept is not taught there. The word "bible" is not found in the Bible either, but we use it anyway. Likewise, the words "omniscience," which means "all-knowing," "omnipotence," which means "all-powerful," and "omnipresence," which means "present everywhere" are not found in the Bible either; but we use these words to describe the attributes of God. So, to say that the Trinity isn't true because the word isn't in the Bible is an invalid argument.



Is there subordination in the Trinity?

There is, apparently, a subordination within the Trinity regarding order but not substance or essence. We can see that the Father is first, the Son is second, and the Holy Spirit is third. The Father is not begotten, but the Son is (John 3:16). The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father (John 15:26). The Father sent the Son (1 John 4:10). The Son and the Father send the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26). The Father creates (Isaiah 44:24), the Son redeems (Gal. 3:13), and the Holy Spirit sanctifies (Rom. 15:16).



This subordination of order does not mean that each of the members of the Godhead are not equal or divine. For example, we see that the Father sent the Son, but this does not mean that the Son is not equal to the Father in essence and divine nature. The Son is equal to the Father in his divinity but inferior in his humanity. A wife is to be subject to her husband; but this does not negate her humanity, essence, or equality. By further analogy, a king and his servant both share human nature. Yet, the king sends the servant to do his will. Jesus said, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me" (John 6:38). Of course Jesus already is King; but the analogy shows that because someone is sent, it doesn't mean they are different from the one who sent him.



Critics of the Trinity will see this subordination as proof that the Trinity is false. They reason that if Jesus were truly God, then He would be completely equal to God the Father in all areas and would not, therefore, be subordinate to the Father in any way; but this objection is not logical. If we look at the analogy of the king and the servant, we certainly would not say that the servant was not human because he was sent. Being sent does not negate sameness in essence. Therefore, the fact that the Son is sent does not mean that He is not divine any more than when my wife sends me to get bread, I am not human.



Is this confusing?

Another important point about the Trinity is that it can be a difficult concept to grasp, but this does not necessitate an argument against its validity. On the contrary, the fact that it is difficult is an argument for its truth. The Bible is the self-revelation of an infinite God. Therefore, we are bound to encounter concepts which are difficult to understand--especially when dealing with an incomprehensible God who exists in all places at all times. So, when we view descriptions and attributes of God manifested in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, we discover that a completely comprehensible and understandable explanation of God's essence and nature is not possible. What we have done, however, is derive from the Scripture the truths that we can grasp and combine them into the doctrine we call The Trinity. The Trinity is, to a large extent, a mystery. After all, we are dealing with God Himself.



It is the way of the cults to reduce biblical truth to make God comprehensible and understandable by their minds. To this end, they subject God's word to their own reasoning and end in error. The following verses are often used to demonstrate that the doctrine of the Trinity is indeed biblical:



Matt. 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."

1 Cor. 12:4-6, "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6And there are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons."

2 Cor. 13:14, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all."

Eph. 4:4-7, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift."

1 Pet. 1:2, "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in fullest measure."

Jude 20-21, "But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith; praying in the Holy Spirit; 21keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life."

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Answer 65

because of wrong translations and fake stories created by people to fulfill their own needs.

Answer 66

I am afraid your attempt to change Catholicism will not be succeded.

Answer 67

Catholics say that but they are not "real" Christians.

Answer 68

well, jesus said he is one with us and he said he is one with god, so, we are all one with god. obviously.

Answer 69

Maybe your "new" Bible does, but the actual Bible as interpreted from from texts written by those who intended to spread God's Word in different languages refers to God in the plural in Genesis like twice, and in the Gospel of John, it is expressly explained how God is at least dual and one at the same time.



How do you reconcile where it says, "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (Paraphrased)





Then it goes on the explain how the Word became flesh and dwelled with us.



"Who being in very nature God, did not expect that equality with God was something to be used to his own advantage." (paraphrased)



God created man in His own image. (Do you think that God's image is that of a primate-esque shape? Is God even subject to shape and form? Or is it more than likely that God is referring instead to the triune nature of our own existence? We have a flesh, our body, a mind our self-awareness, logic, ability to simply think and ponder our environment and God, even our ability to choose to sin or to follow God of our own volition is found within the power that makes our mind, and finally, the third part, a soul.)



How do you reconcile that?



The Bible does not explicitly spell out a lot of things. And as if to warn us ahead of time, the Bible itself says that the Word of God is not carnally discerned. So anyone can tell you that means we humans cannot understand the Word of God through our own rationale and logic. We must ask God for that wisdom, that the discernment of what God means be revealed to us.



Look at the Bible and how it's constructed. There is no faith designed in such a way as to encourage a more perfect interpretation, more encouraging of debate and dissension, more demanding that each individual reevaluate, almost by second-nature, the ideas and philosophies, and theologies, and ideologies that they've been taught to believe are true.



You are not wrong to question what we believe regarding this, for the Bible practically demands individuals consider the merits of doctrines both within themselves and what they are taught.



You are wrong, however, to assume that you have it right and that we don't.



Because the reality of Christianity is that we never have it completely right, none of us, and we can't, for our sin-nature corrupts and infects all of our thinking. But we never stop fighting to find that perfect understanding.



Why else do you think it has taken so long to even reach this level of perfection in interpreting the finer details of doctrine instructed within Word of God?



Our best works are but dirty rags to God.



Why is this? Ever used a dirty rag to clean a dirty table? No matter how grand and great an effort we put into cleaning that table, the very rag itself means that their is a level of contamination.



The reason our best works are but dirty rags is because no matter how great and grand our intentions, our sin-nature always contaminates our efforts even to our very fundamental core. This is why, no matter how great and grand and perfect our interpretation of God's Word, we will never have it completely accurate, and we will always need to reevaluate, reassess, reexamine, and seek further understanding from God in order to further perfect our doctrine.



The only ever clean rag was Christ Himself, the Word of God Himself made flesh, both God and with God "in the beginning." Christ calls himself the I Am, and the Alpha and Omega. There is nothing that has been made that wasn't made through Christ.



It seems that God always starts something world-changing with those who are in most devout, obedient, and humble service to God because as time goes on, we only become less perfect in it.



God started the world with Adam and Eve, two people who knew Him without a doubt.



God restarted the world with Noah and his family, the only people still faithful to God.



God started Judaism with a man who was very holy in God's eyes, Abraham.



God established the law of God with Moses, the most humble man before God in the history of the world.



God established the Kingship of Israel with a man most Holy and obedient to God, King Saul.



After King Saul failed, God established the line of the Messiah within a foundation He formed with King David, a man that God referred to as a man after His own heart.



The most world-changing region of the world Europe, formed it's modern societies within the crucible of Christ-centered direction and influence.



America, the single most world-shattering and changing nation the world has ever known formed with a group who were NOT subjugated to the Catholic traditions, but were in a time of focusing specifically on the Word of God itself.



It seems that when God has determined to change the world with something, He always starts it from a place of humility and focus upon Him because humankind has a way of perverting that and ever progressing away from God as time goes on.



When the time spoken of in Revelations happens, Christ will establish His reign with He Himself sitting upon the throne in a world just rescued from themselves as they put all of their rights, freedoms, and power into the hands of Satan.



Then, in 1,000 years, after we will have the history of the Chosen people called the Jews, the followers of the Messiah sent by God called the Christians, the world's choosing to follow Satan through the antiChrist, and finally, the following of Christ Himself ruling with an iron sceptor over the whole earth, crushing sin and disobedience to God wherever it may take root, we will have one more time to make the choice of our own accord. But we started from knowing all of that, having all of that history to reference, and we will choose to hold true to our nature, to become corrupted, proving one final time that no matter what the circumstance, our best works can only ever be dirty rags.

Answer 70

1x1x1 = ?

Answer 71

ITS DOES

Answer 72

THAT IS THE CHRISTIAN BELIEF............//

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YES, NO, MAYBE..............//

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Answer 73

Christians do not believe there are three Gods but that God is made up of three equal "parts" (for lack of a better word) .. The word trinity is not in the bible.. neither is "bible" yet we call it bible... for lack of a better word. We believe in ONE God .. Isaiah 43:10

you are my witnesses, says the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me, so this tells us there shall never be or ever was any other "god" formed..ever... But yet John 1:1 says..

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is God's spoken word.. This statement yields two important conclusions regarding Jesus; Jesus is God and existed from the beginning as God, yet Jesus' existence is somehow distinct from God the Father. Jesus was "with" God and "was" God at the same time. This is the mystery of the Trinity: all three "parts" in the Godhead are One God and yet all are distinct from one another.



Moving to verse 3, John says that it was the Word (Him) that created all things. From this statement, we begin to see why Jesus is called the "Word" by John.



We know from scripture that God the Father is Spirit (John 4:24), meaning He doesn't exist in physical form.The Creation cannot experience the Father as He truly is, since we are bound to a physical dimension yet He is not physical.

we also know that God's Spirit is likewise invisible (John 3:6-8). He can only be known by observing His work in the Creation.



On the other hand, Jesus is the member of the Godhead responsible for all physical matter. As John said, all things were made by and through Jesus. Paul says the same thing in Col 1:15-17.



More over, Paul teaches in Colossians that Jesus is the "image of the invisible God." Therefore, He is the only Person in the Godhead Who has entered into and become a part of the physical creation. Jesus can be seen in a physical sense, because He is the One Who entered into the Creation and become a part of it (i.e., became incarnate).

Next, Genesis 1 teaches that the world was created by the spoken word of God (note the repeating phrase in Genesis 1, "Then God said..."). So when God the Father determined to created the universe and everything in it, He "spoke" it into existence. But as John said in verse 3, Jesus was the One who made all things, therefore we can say that Jesus was God's logos, or spoken Word.

This is John's meaning when he says that Jesus is the Word. He meant that Jesus is the physical manifestation of God the Father, just as a spoken word is the physical manifestation of our inner thoughts. Until Jesus took action and created the universe, there was no physical reality to God's presence. But when God "spoke" (i.e., when Jesus took action), the Creation came into existence.



Later, Jesus arrived in Person to meet with His creation, and as Jesus spoke His words to His disciples, He fulfilled the Father's purpose by providing a physical representation of the Godhead to His creation. Hebrews says it this way:





Heb. 1:1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,

Heb. 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

Heb. 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power...



Paul reiterates this same thought in Colossians when he says:



Col. 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

Col. 1:16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created through Him and for Him.



Think of this if the Bible said that Jesus is "a" God as some might argue then it would not make sense and contradict what We believe: That there is NO OTHER GOD FORMED OR EVER WILL BE" It would make Jesus a "false" god! How then could we follow a false god?

many argue that moses was called a god(Exodus 7:1) or that in John 10:33-36 Jesus calls the pharisees gods.. does that make them "true' gods? even if he called them so? No..there is only ONE GOD.. so these being called gods does not make them gods either, in fact if they were gods they would still be false gods...

here are a few more reasons:

Jesus is explicitly called God: (your passage - He is "Immanuel", "God [present] with us", Matt.1:23; and also Jn.1:18; Rom.9:5; Tit.2:13; Heb.1:8; 1Jn.5:20)



Jesus is worshiped as God (Matt.28:9; Phil.2:10)



Jesus is the Creator (Jn.1:3; Col.1:16; Heb.1:1-3; 1:10 - and God created the world: Gen.1-2)



Jesus is One with God (Jn.10:30)

Jesus has all the divine attributes of God (cf. Matt.28:18; Jn.1:48; 14:6)



Jesus is the exact image of God (Col.15; cf. 2Cor.4:4; Heb.1:3)



Jesus is eternal like God (Jn.8:58; Heb.13:8)



Jesus is equal to God (Jn.5:18)



Jesus is sent from heaven and comes from heaven – which can only be the case if He is God (Jn.6:38-58).



and just in case there is still doubt... here is still more proof...



We are to worship God only...Yet Jesus and Jehovah God both accept joint worship: Isaiah 45:23-24 states that every knee shall bow to Jehovah and every tongue shall confess allegiance to Jehovah.

Isaiah 45:23-24 is quoted and applied to the Father in Romans 14:9-12 and applied to the Son in Philippians 2:9-11

Therefore Jehovah is applied to both the Father and the Son. Further, Isaiah 45:23-24 is an example of the highest form of joint worship.



more examples of joint- worship by the Father and the Son...



Both are co-recipients of worship Heb 1:6; Rev 5:11-14; Matt 14:33; 28:9; John 9:38; Rev 19:10

Both are co-recipients of the kind of "service" that is only allowed to God: Matt 4:10; Rev 22:3f Greek--latreuo; cf. ). Notice the identical structure in Rev 20:6 speaks of Christ or both, but not the Father alone. "but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with "HIM" for a thousand years." Rev 20:6, and in Rev 22:3:The(singular) throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it,and His bond-servants shall serve [latreuo] Him (one person) yet this sentence speaks of both God and the Lamb...

Notice the singular "HIM" either refers to Christ alone, or both Christ and God, but not the Father alone.

If "HIM" in Rev 22:3 refers to either one of Jesus or God, we must conclude, based upon Rev 20:6, that it is Christ. In Rev 20:6, we can be certain that Christ is included in the reign.

In fact, the truth is that both God and Christ are included in BOTH passages. Rev 20:6 is saying we will be priests and reign with BOTH God and Christ. Likewise, Rev 22:3 is, with equal clarity, saying that bond-servants will SERVE [latreuo]both.

Never in Revelation does any verse refer to both God and Christ as "they, them" etc. This is to show the unity of God.



Grace to you and peace from him who is(JEHOVAH-JESUS) and who was(JESUS) and who is to come(JESUS), and from the seven spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.(JESUS -Ruler of kings on earth--see Daniel 4:17-the most high is ruler in the kingdom of men)



Revelation 1:4-8

To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood (JESUS) and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory(JESUS GLORIFIED) and dominion forever and ever(JESUS RULES FOREVER). Amen. 7 Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail[c] on account of him. Even so. Amen.



“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” (THE LORD GOD,(JEHOVAH) WHO IS AND WAS AND IS TO COME.(JESUS) THE ALMIGHTY..(EITHER GOD REALLY WANTS TO CONFUSE US HERE OR JESUS AND JEHOVAH ARE ONE)



John 8:23-24 I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."

Answer 74

wtf do you care... it doesnt matter as its just religion...