Christians, what do you think about all those ancient myths that are quite similar to your own Bible myths?

Question

...but which are far older than the Bible stories?

Gilgamesh flood...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth

Easter....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter

The Isis and Horus myth (a virgin mother, nonetheless)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis

Saturnalia....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia

Mithras, a Persian God/Man born from a Virgin, redeemer of humanity (whose birth was announced by a bright star, BTW)
http://geocities.com/birthofjesus/enchr5.htm

So? Are they "retroplagiarized" copies of the Bible?

What do you think?

Answer 1

Hehe..they're probably going to say that all those are wrong except for their belief.

Answer 2

1) Gilgamesh flood - so, this agrees with the bible in large part. Sounds like the Babylonians and the ancient Hebrews might have lived in the same region...and suffered the same flood.





2) Easter - um, what's this got to do with "ancient myths". Do you mean, adopting the name of a pagan goddess for the celebration of the resurrection of Christ, which was based on the centuries-old Jewish Passover, not on a Germanic goddess who was probably not even worshiped at the time of Jesus? Which ancient myth are you claiming to be related to the Christian celebration of Easter?





3) Isis - I assume you are trying to relate to Mary. Let's compare



Isis - funerary assistant to dead king / pharaoh; protects dead against evil

Mary - dead, doesn't do funerals



Isis - 4 sons

Mary - only one definitely; others possibly



Isis - considered to be the wife of Horus, the Pharaoh god

Mary - considered to be the wife of Joseph, a guy



Isis - married her brother, Joe Bob Osiris

Mary - not into the cousin-lovin'



Isis - later, becomes mother of Horus instead of his wife, and since Osiris was dead, they had to resurrect him so he could do the nasty with his sister and make Horus

Mary - didn't have any of these issues



Isis - has to leave with her son to escape her jealous brother Set, who had already killed her husband / brother

Mary - has to leave with her son and husband to escape the frightened King Herod - so far, the nearest similarity, and it's not very close at all



Isis - heals her son of a poisonous scorpion bite

Mary - nope



Isis - tricks sun god into giving her his secret name so that she has the magic to raise her brother from the dead so that she can do the nasty with him

Mary - uhhhh, I don't think so.



Isis virgin birth - well, she

a) turned herself into a kite by magic and then

b) flew over Osiris' dead body to become pregnant

Mary - no, didn't have to do any avian necrophilia to get pregnant





4) Saturnalia - "Saturnalia is the feast with which the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of the god Saturn,"

Christmas - "the celebration of Jesus' birth"



not very similar...





5) Mithras - 1st century Roman religion - wonder where they got those ideas????





Well, the flood is obviously not plagiarized, but simply an account of a similar flood or, possibly, even the same flood.



Easter - we have biblical texts pre-dating our earliest knowledge of the Germanic Eostre by at least 5 centuries.



Isis - about as similar as Hulk Hogan and Richard Simmons. No, I take that back - those two are much more similar than Isis and Mary.



Saturnalia - well, most are well aware that Christmas is celebrated on the day that was formerly Saturnalia. There certainly seems to be no similarity with the biblical account of Jesus' birth and Saturnalia, though.



Mithras - no need to retroplagiarize when you are the one being plagiarized...



Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/

Answer 3

The gilgamesh flood could very well be talking about the biblical flood.



Parts of Easter tradition are pagan, but not the ressurection of Christ.



Isus was not a virgin, Horus was not crucified. Try finding the real "myth". Not the one made to look like Jesus for the uneducated.



Mithras apparently carved himself out of a cave, was not born of a virgin:see Horus above



Not sure Saturnalia but will research.

Answer 4

Gilgamesh flood: More evidence that it happened.

Isis & Horus bears almost no resemblance to the Christian story. Mithras was said to have been born, fully grown, from solid rock; the event leaving a cavity behind. There was no mention of a virgin. Get your facts straight.

It's kind of like those people who want to believe there's life on Mars, so their eyes are attune to anything in the Mars photos that looks like a face or building...and they see it. It's easy to look in retrospect through history to try to find something like Christianity if you're determined to do so. You can probably find something that parallels Mickey Mouse if you try hard enough.

Answer 5

Mithras was a hunter god who was born from a rock, not a virgin. He didn't redeeme humanity, he saved the persians from a huge bull.



Horus was born from re-assembled bits of Isis' now-murdered husband.



Lots of cultures have flood stories, which would sort of lend authenticity to a large flood at some point in history.



I think that people went back and tried to find something similar in order to discredit Christianity, and have even engaged in re-writing some of these myths in order to make them appear closer to Christianity. Authentic Mithraism was nothing close to Christianity.

Answer 6

i've got tried from a thoroughly curious perspective, whether this is annoying to locate in the previous works. dissimilar the old stuff replaced into initially oral custom that replaced into later transcribed like Genesis. the 1st section is extremely poetic and looks to persist with the syntax of tale informed for hundreds of years and something sounds like it replaced into written and dedicated to paper at as quickly as. i think of that it rather is between the charms of the Bible is this is volume of time and dissimilar separate tribes and peoples that wrote it. The Jews weren't one single united human beings on the circumstances of the Bible and that they spoke many languages and had many faiths or interpretations. it relatively is a stable question.

Answer 7

Truth is truth.



If you have never seen the movie "Enemy Mine", that quote won't mean much to you.



Anyhow, if you think about it, if the Bible is true, then it was true from the very beginning of time. Most of these "myths" as you call them, and shame on you, would be simply earlier versions of the truth. Then, too, as Babylon says, some of these "myths" are badly garbled...

If you know for sure that these tales are "myths", you must be incredibly old, indeed. Several million years at least, to claim such knowledge.

Would you like to borrow my sister's Oil of Olay? I think you probably need it alot more than she does....

Answer 8

haha you're lack of real research makes me laugh.





the epic of gilgamesh many people use as proof of a flood.



the easter/eostre thing only works in english. every other language uses a form of "pashcal" meaning passover.



Isis wasn't a virign, she inseminated herself with Osiris' wang (after his parts were scatted no less) Wikipedia doesn't even say she was a virgin.



Mithras CARVED HIMSELF OUT OF A ROCK. He was never known as a redeemer of humanity. there was no star, since he wasn't born.



Mithra is persian, not mithras. Either way mithra wasn't born of a virgin either. He was created by Ahura Mazda.



http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/copycathub.html



I think you should do more research.

Answer 9

I asked a question about the similarities of Jesus and other godmen before him like Horus, Osiris, Krishna, Buddha, Dionysus, and Mithras.



I was literally told that "Satan had fooled people back then of these false gods to try and discredit Christianity"



Its funny, believing that Jesus resurrected himself is considered normal for Christians.

But believing Mithras did it, well now that is just nonsense......lmao

Answer 10

Don't forget Dionysus: son of God, born of a mortal woman, descended from kings, punished those that didn't acknowledge him; and Asclepeus: son of God, healer, raised the dead, preached peace, etc...

Answer 11

The bible does not express worshiping of a Goddess or virgin mother....That is a Catholic thing



The Bible does tell us to celebrate easter either, it doesn't command us or tell us to celebrate Christmas....our culture has done that



Mithras...it is that hard to connect the dots on that? it started in CE aka AD



The Gilgamesh Flood or epic flood is present in many cultures...you would expect that if it really happened wouldn't you? myth maybe but if the world did flood we would hear ancient stories with it



you should be glad you can say this stuff on here...because if you had said this in an academic setting, you would be feeling pretty foolish right now....

Answer 12

Man, I've been trying forever now..........they have an excuse for every single parallel. Good luck.

Answer 13

Satan has one and only one goal. Stop as many people as possible from turning to God.

He knew how God planned to save man kind and has been throwing false Christs and messiahs ever sense the flood.



Don't be fooled; if you sincerely wish to know the truth seek it.

Answer 14

unless it pertains directly to the words in the bible, it is all myth.



except for their beliefs of course.

Answer 15

bwuahahaha