Question:
Why do so many people inhere not believe in god. Don't say evolution cause that is not part of science.?
iiiidontcare
2007-11-25 00:01:29 UTC
There is only one observable type of evolution and that is micro... variations within the kind. The rest of it they hope happened. But it's never been observed... It can't be tested or recreated. I'd say you have more of a faith in that, which technically makes it a religion. So lets see christians believe we came from god. atheists believe we came from a rock that was rained on for millions of years. In all these questions here i typically see atheist mentioning there intelligence. Well i ask where's the intelligence in that.
37 answers:
2007-11-25 00:11:32 UTC
No one hopes it happened that way. Right now that's the best explanation that fits all the evidence. Just saying a supreme being did it by fiat is not a better explanation.



This is the old argument of jumping to conclusions. Just because we don't have absolute proof of every conceivable thing it does not follow that a supreme alien did it instead.



Supreme beings doing anything is not an explanation because there's no reason to think there are any supreme beings. Anecdotes and ancient stories don't prove anything. You have to have solid, repeatable proof. You don't even have a hypothesis for god. It's nonsense to us modern humans. It might've made sense to masses of prehistoric humans who believed anything people told them out of abject ignorance and fear. But to me, it's mysticism pure and simple, blank-minded, immoral, self-destructive, hateful, threatening, violent mysticism.
Scott M
2007-11-25 00:11:57 UTC
1: Evolution has nothing to do with God. It says nothing whatsoever about God.

2: Evolution has been observed--in the lab and in the field. Anyone who has told you otherwise is LYING.

3: The ToE is not a religion, it is a scientific theory. Not a guess. Not a suspicion. In science, a theory is as good as it gets. Anyone who tells you otherwise knows nothing of science.

4: Atheists do not believe that life came from a rock that was rained on for millions of years. If you dare to learn, the field of chemestry called abiogenesis goes into detail on the subject of the formation of life.

5: There is intelligence in asking questions, demanding evidence, and testing the response. There is no intelligence at all involved in "faith".



Edit to add:

Plainly you haven't even bothered to read what your critics have posted.



1- "The Big Bang" did not come from "nothing". It came from a singualrity.

2- There is no such thing as "chemecal evolution". The heavier elements were formed in the earliest stars of the universe.

3- Stars did not form planets. Gravity formed the planets around the stars.

4- Abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution. Pick up a book and study the field of chemestry.

5- "Macro-evolution" is a fiction made up by creationists. Speciation has been observed directly in the lab and in the field.

6- "Micro-evolution" is also a creationist made-up designation. Why do you consider it so impossible that many "micro-changes" could add up to a "macro-change"? Once again, there is more than adequate evidence for such changes to base an entire field of science on it...biology.
novangelis
2007-11-25 00:20:31 UTC
Why must Creationists persist in the various lies about evolution?



1) Micro-evolution and macro-evolution are the study of evolution at small and large scales, respectively. There is no mechanistic distinction, so they are one and the same.

2) Evolution has been tested across disparate organisms. Predictions regarding their genetic relatedness based on their anatomic relatedness have been confirmed in experiments.

3) Reproducibility in science requires that experiments be repeatable, not nature be reproduced. We don not have to assemble a star or planet to study them.

4) Science does not require faith.

5) Religion is not defined by faith alone.

6) Atheists do not believe life "came from a rock that was rained on for millions of years".



If your belief in God is reflected in your six lies in such a short passage, atheism is the honest and intelligent choice. For the atheists sake, I hope you keep promoting religion. You are an example that is good for atheism.
Ruddo S
2007-11-25 00:24:45 UTC
for all those non-believers there is plenty of evidence supporting creation. Roman records say that they did crucify a man named Jesus for saying he was the messiah and that he was crucified next to two other men. There is geological proof that the flood happened. There is also evidence that this might have made rocks seem 'older' when dated using scientists dating system. Another mystery is why are all petrified stumps sitting the right way up, if they were petrified during the flood it is perfectly plausible. Some non-believers may say that trees take hundreds of years to petrify, not 40 days and 40 nights, but on one occasion a tree was petrified instantly when it was struck by an electrical wire, although it is unusual it would not be impossible for lightning to strike at least 100 trees in 40 days and 40 nights. After all, in some places you can get over 4000 lightning strikes a night.



Also the fact that humans are all so close in DNA mach up is explained with Adam and Eve. There is heeps of other evidence if you look around, just keep your ears open.



why the thumbs down- a serious answer



any way another thing to add, the big bang theory has been studied by mathematicians and they put together a model and came to a conclusion...The Big Bang theory only works if there is another universe, older than our previous universe and our previous universe is built on the remnants of that one.



I wonder where that universe came from, atime machine from the end of this one???



A seriouse question although english would be a better language to post you query in, its what most of us understand. also another great point has been raised by other posts, try researching your topic a bit first before answering.



As well as that evolution fits in with the bible, God may have used evolution as a tool to let his creation survive through all sorts of catastrophies, such as an ice age (wich is explained in one of the first four books of the bible) global warming.



And, besides some other misleading comments on the sightanimal breeders can not proove evolution, although it does probobly exist, the pup of two different species to try and gain a better one is sterile, it can't reproduce.



P.S. this is fun...reminds me of when I used to do debating. Rebuttle rebutle rebutle.



P.S. I know I already have a P.S. but I have another piont which is unrelated to the last...Any spelling mistakes are not my fault, either the answer is to long or the spell checker is stuffed because it is taking forevr and ever and ever...=D
2007-11-25 01:37:47 UTC
Wow - how uneducated and ignorant you sound!!! You totally ignore all the science that does exist about evolution.



Simple animal breeders can demonstrate evolution in a matter of months or years!!!



The Pope recognized evolution last year but said final proof may not be possible because it took place over such a vast time scale.



Of course your question also shows that you must think God was too inept to be able to use evolution as his tool!



Sadly what you have demonstrated yet again is that most Christians on here have such weak faith that they seek to denigrate science and non believers. You denigrate and abuse people just because they do not believe as you do.



That is why you are so scared of atheists - your faith is so weak you are scared you may be wrong!!!!!!



Atheists are far more moral, inclusive and upright citizens!!!
kwxilvr
2007-11-25 00:15:05 UTC
Actually, the results of what you might call "macro" evolution are substantial. They're called fossils. You may want to read about them.

Unfortunately, you have a rather rough understanding of what science is and what constitutes a reasonable claim and what does not. The intelligence we cite is that which is testable, and fossils do test evolution (since evolution predicts that intermediate forms should exist). When fossils are found that have both prior reptilian characteristics, but also newly developed feathers, we can reasonably infer that such a specimen may be a precursor to modern birds. With sufficient supporting evidence, of which there is enough to fill books, it is quite reasonable to state that evolution has occurred.



I think with a few more years serious study you might actually be prepared for better science questions.
Elizabeth J
2007-11-27 05:07:27 UTC
I don't know... the idea of invisible sky deities just doesn't seem plausible to me.



Evolution is part of science. You sure type well for a sperm, my little bigot. Survival of the fittest has never been observed? Change over time can't be tested or recreated? You theists scare me sometimes.



You have to have more faith to believe in scientific principles than an invisible deity zapping us into existence? Try again.



You know atheists don't believe we came from a rock. Silly, Silly.



I KNOW! WE'LL JUST SAY THAT SOME OF US EVOLVED (ATHEISTS) AND OTHERS DIDN'T (YOU).
2007-11-25 00:10:42 UTC
You are arguing from a flawed premise - you appear to know little about evolution, including whether it's even relevant to your "question". It's not. Evolution works on living organisms - it has nothing to do with the origins of life.



I don't believe in God because there is no evidence to support his existence. However there are other non-paranormal explanations for everything attributed to God, and these explanations can be supported by evidence.
Star
2007-11-25 00:12:45 UTC
Did you know that on a technicality you are ranting?



Anyhow, I don't believe in a god simply because it is the right choice for me. I don't try citing stuff about evolution, and those that do will not say we came from rocks...



Also, atheists are not the only group that doesn't believe in a god, christian or otherwise...
雅威的烤面包机
2007-11-25 00:04:43 UTC
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UAEWb3gig80



Yeah....biology is not longer considered science....oookay



re·li·gion (rĭ-lĭj'ən)

n.

1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.





I would be much quicker to assume that Quetzalcoatl exists than your Christian deity. There's the exact same amount of evidence (none), and his name is much more fun to say. Also, he doesn't go with the facade of being all loving and then torturing people. No, he says he's mad and doesn't love everybody and you'll just have to deal with it. At least Quetzalcoatl is honest.
2007-11-25 00:06:29 UTC
1. Evolution doesn't aim to disprove god

2. evolution has been observed. Multiple times. You can find examples on talkorigin or wikipedia. Also a simple search will show you examples.

3. It has been tested and speciation has been achieved in the lab (fruitflies)

4. there is no reason to put micro- or macro- in front of evolution.

5. science (or evolution) only requires faith if you don't understand it.
Trina™
2007-11-25 00:15:31 UTC
First of all, I would much rather come from a rock than from the vengeful, sadistic, arrogant god depicted in the Bible!!!!



Where is the intelligence in blindly following something like that kind of God?



People's disbelief of God does not come as a result of preferring to believe an evolutionary theory. The disbelief comes from lack of proof and inconsistencies in what is considered to be proof.
2007-11-25 00:12:40 UTC
I have no idea where you got that "rock that was rained on" garbage. Evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life, only the origin of species. Charles Darwin made that perfectly clear when he named his book. Go learn something & then get back to me.
2007-11-25 00:13:21 UTC
By its very definition, theism posits the existence of a deity which has in some way, shape, or form revealed itself to the universe. For such a revelation to be of any significance, there must be self-aware structures capable of free will. That is, these self-aware structures must be capable of producing some action in violation of causation, or for which there is no anticedent. If self-aware structures exist, but do not have free will, then the revelation is irrelevant.



Thus, the existence of any theistic deity must naturally and of necessity have the consequence of free-willed self-aware structures.



For free-will to exist, the self-aware structure must have some cognitive component which is non-tangible, and not subject to the principles of physics. Any tangible component is subject to physics, and thus violates the principle of non-causation. This principle of non-tangibility is, in psychology and philosophy, refered to as 'dualism'.



However, various studies have shown that without exception, every component of the mind and consciousness arises from the actions of the nervous system. These studies, in various ways, all involve selectively disabling portions of the brain or preventing communication between them -- split brain studies (where the corpus collosum has been cut or damaged), stroke victim studies (localized or regionalized brain death), and partial brain anasthesia. This establishes with high confidence, beyond reasonable doubt, that the mind is in fact monistic, or entirely tangible.



As stated, a free-willed mind must have a non-tangible component. Since the human mind has no non-tangible component, it is incapable of free will.



Since free will is a requirement of theism, theism is provably impossible, beyond any reasonable doubt.



This method of proof by modus tollens can be summarized:



[A Theistic Deity Exists] THEN [Free Will Exists].

NOT [Free Will Exists].

THEREFORE NOT [A Theistic Deity Exists].



Assign these as follows:



A = "A theistic deity exists."

B = "Free will exists."



Then the standard format is:



A⇒B.

¬B.

∴¬A.
whereRyou?
2007-11-25 00:05:57 UTC
My question to you is why so many people out there believe in God? What is so intelligent about that? I get your point regarding evolution, but I would like to see some scientific evidence or even non-scienfic evidence that any god exists.
2007-11-25 00:09:35 UTC
Because there is no evidence of a god. What is so hard to understand?



I will say evolution, just to piss you off. Yes it is science. It is even more than science it is a fact. TOH explains that fact.
2007-11-25 00:06:09 UTC
All the people in here are different. Let people believe what they want to. All that matters is what you believe. Personally I believe in God. No one can change my mind about that and I dont plan on trying to change any one else's mind about what they believe.
2007-11-25 00:19:04 UTC
I don't get it .If history teaches us anything it's that what is not known today will be known tomorrow. That is guaranteed .Just because evolution is not a fact today does not mean that it will not be a fact tomorrow in all probability it will.
Beautiful
2007-11-25 00:10:23 UTC
I do not know if this is the answer you are looking for, but here it goes anyways. There are three main reasons why people don't believe in God. 1. Ignorance; they don't know who He is or have been given false info about who He really is. 2. Fear: once you get to know God and His character, you realize that to really know Him is to make Him Lord of your life; and most people are either to afraid to do that or just don't want to give up lordship over there own lives. 3. Past hurts: some people have been so hurt by "people who believe in God" that they automatically blame God for other people's stupidity. Sad but true.



The question really isn't why don't people believe in God; because most do. The real question is what do you choose to do with that belief? Deny it? or take it to the next level and develop a relationship with Him. Belief will not get anyone into heaven.
Bob C
2007-11-25 00:07:25 UTC
I really hope you're an atheist making a joke, because otherwise you know nothing about evolution and how it is supposed to work.
2007-11-25 00:07:00 UTC
some people need a god to make their life complete...some people are happy with their life and don't need a person to pray to for forgiveness.....some people are happy and respectful of others...and they may not need a god to believe in.

I just read a very interesting book...but doesn't mean I will start a cult and declare myself a god....unfortunately...religion has become an accepted form of cult...and those that follow it seem to be lacking direction or faith in themselves....am I religious ...no....am I a pagan? no... I am me..am happy to be me and happy with my life...I don't need a god to be a decent individual.
Saqib
2007-11-25 00:08:31 UTC
So many people don't believe in God for many reasons. They feel themselves free to do whatever they like if they don't believe in God. However, if they have to believe in God, they will have to shun many things. Secondly, it is going to be a fashion to believe in unproven scientific theories but not in God. Most of the non-believers stand for logic but deny logics when the issue of God comes.
venatiusadelmo
2007-11-25 00:05:04 UTC
Congratulations, you are trying to start an argument about science without fully understanding what "science" is or means! In fact, you even have a religion without knowing what "religion" means! (Hint: It doesn't mean "having faith in something", as you assert it does. I have faith my car will work when I start it. My car is not my religion.)
pblahut70
2007-11-25 00:14:42 UTC
Evolution is NOT a true fact. As I am a Born Again Spirit Filled Christian and I believe Fact that GOD had written in the Bible.



Look into the Museam - You will literally SEE things that exist there that ACTUALLY happened.



JESUS Died and Rose again and is living inside my heart. I'm proud to say that I'm going to Heaven just because Jesus died and Rose again for our Sins.



Read the Bible before you say anything against it.
Closed
2007-11-25 00:06:59 UTC
We want proof that doesn't involve a certain book. I will surely follow if you have solid evidence that god exists.
2007-11-25 00:05:29 UTC
What proof do you have that God exists. Prove God exists and I'll become a Christian.
nooru
2007-11-25 00:25:50 UTC
Proof to Evolution is a Hoax

http://www.harunyahya.com/c_refutation_darwinism.php

http://www.darwinistsneverrealize.com/

http://www.askdarwinists.com/

http://www.fossil-museum.com/

http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/

http://www.evolutiondocumentary.com/

http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/

http://www.darwinismthegreatestlieinhistory.com/

http://www.whydarwinwaswrong.com/

http://www.detailsofdarwinistforgeries.com/

http://www.bewareofdarwinistfalsehoods.com/

http://www.famousdarwinistdeceptions.com/



Atheism is a HoaX

http://www.creationofuniverse.com/

http://www.harunyahya.com/c_refutation_atheism.php



watch TV

http://www.harunyahya.tv/index.php?l=4
2007-11-25 00:06:09 UTC
it is becoming unfashionable to believe in God. that's why there are so many athiests. If they were really good athiests then they would be off seeking all the pleasures of the world because they would be convinced that this is all there is. but for some reason they feel the need to pontificate on yahoo answers, i think it is because they don't believe their own statements.



also, if you're going to accuse people of not being intelligent, at least use proper english.



thanks
krcst1
2007-11-25 00:04:13 UTC
I believe in God, just not yours.
2007-11-25 00:04:53 UTC
Evolution is not part of science, just because your pastor says so?



ROFLMAO!
2007-11-25 00:09:59 UTC
I come here, mostly, for the salad bar.
ahsoasho2u2
2007-11-25 00:16:03 UTC
THOUGHT, DISCUSSION OF RATIONAL AND LOGICAL UNDERSTANDINGS FROM TWO VARIATIONS / DEGREES OF BELIEFS.
mamilove
2007-11-25 00:10:39 UTC
because atheist believed that they are mushroom,came from nothing,and knows nothing.Christian believed God because we are intelligent enough to know that nothing will exist without reason.And the reason we are here on earth bec.somebody created us.
Lauren
2007-11-25 00:04:48 UTC
everyone's entitled to their own beliefs...don't judge because you happen to not agree.
anqelaaaa xD
2007-11-25 00:04:22 UTC
cant blame em

whee da *** daa proof?
PaulaNealMooney
2007-11-25 00:04:15 UTC
I believe!



I believe!
I love being a mommy!
2007-11-25 00:05:16 UTC
honestly ive been wondering the same thing


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