Question:
Atheists, do you sometimes wish you could turn the clock back and take the red pill instead?
hiniikken
2013-10-01 04:03:22 UTC
(analogy from The Matrix) The red pill being the Reality Pill, and the blue pill means you get to remain in a state of detachment from reality.
I>E> When Faith was presented to you, you refused it.
27 answers:
biggalloot2003
2013-10-01 04:07:17 UTC
It was never a choice. Religion is not just false, it is repulsive.
?
2013-10-01 06:18:50 UTC
I wish there was a God and I wish he was all the things people say he is, all powerful and all kind and that but by definition the impossibility is overwhelming to me.



You say: "When Faith was presented to you, you refused it." - I didn't. Faith is a belief in something that cannot be proven. The magic and beauty of reality is more than enough. Get as much as you can before you die because there's no seconds.



I just looked up exactly what Morpheus said to Neo, it seems like you are the one who took the blue pill... "This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth – nothing more."
?
2013-10-01 05:10:24 UTC
So you're defining reality as beliefs in nebulous and unproven (even deliberately unprovable) concepts, and detachment from reality as relying only on reality for your understanding *of* reality? Using your Matrix red pill/blue pill analogy, what you're doing here is trying to paint the blue pill red and the red pill blue. But it looks to me like you've used a poor-quality non-opaque paint - I'm not fooled for a second.



For me, there's no point I could wind time back to, because even though I've had an intellectual interest in comparative theology for most of my adult life, I've never once seen any value whatsoever in putting more faith in any demonstrably inaccurate book than in reality itself.
adiman83
2013-10-01 05:46:24 UTC
/I'll use the same Matrix analogy as you did. And what I have to say to you is that we (atheists) DID take the red pill.



The red pill doesn't mean what you think it does. Choosing faith is similar to taking the blue pill since faith doesn't help you understand the real world, it just keeps you in ignorance and blind belief.



Us as atheists are the ones that chose the red pill and stayed in Wonderland to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. You theists are the ones that took the blue pill, woke up in your beds believing whatever you want to believe.
Pyriform
2013-10-01 04:12:53 UTC
Taking pills does not determine whether one experiences reality, but since I know that The Matrix is fiction, it seems that I already have chosen reality. I am sorry you are confused about reality and fiction.



Different faiths contradict each other, so it is clear that faith does not lead one to reality.
?
2013-10-01 04:21:23 UTC
Faith is in no way a pathway to truth. Faith is the excuse people give for believing something with absolutely no evidence.



I can claim right now that the universe is just a painting and we're in a snowglobe.



Why not take me on faith?

Because there is NO room for faith in reality.
anonymous
2013-10-01 04:13:48 UTC
"I>E> When Faith was presented to you, you refused it."

You do excellent comedy.

LoLz...





I was seven when I first heard about *the* imaginary little space chap...

LONG before I knew much about anything let alone science being a concept even...

LONG before teh internets were invented.

LONG before I'd read anything written by atheists...

It was just so obvious - just like Pixie and Elf and Goblin...

I never read anything telling me they were fantasy figures either ;)



Anyway, I was surprised grownups could be so silly; I am still amazed.

Monsters in the closet, under the bed, dancing about on clouds awaiting requests?

It’s nothing but superstitious nonsense and it’s all extremely pathetic.

At almost 70 I have NOT seen-heard anything to cause me a change of mind.”

~
Megan
2013-10-01 05:46:55 UTC
Nice way of putting it. I am an agnostic not an atheist. I grew up catholic and it's more like the blue pill wore off rather than any choice being presented to me.
?
2013-10-01 04:35:36 UTC
Sorry, religion is the state of detachment from reality, where you get to believe that a magic sky daddy is taking care of you and you don't have to deal with real life.
.
2013-10-01 05:23:14 UTC
you are aware that you've deliberately switched which reality the pill colours relate to



topically the morpheus character spoke about those who are caught in just that kind of self-deluding rut in the film



"most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. "



10 points - since I've just hit a bullseye! .
Space Wasp
2013-10-01 04:13:11 UTC
You've messed your analogy up - atheists already have accepted reality (so have already 'taken the red pill').
anonymous
2013-10-01 05:08:45 UTC
but how would I have known to refuse faith.. i was just a little child brainwashed by a Muslim society.. i did waste some 15 years of my life being very devout and trying to make this imaginary God happy though.



could have spent that time better.
anonymous
2013-10-01 04:14:05 UTC
No because that would be a lie. The difference between theists and atheists is that theists don't care about the truth and atheists do. Theists know they are lying and their faith is a scam, and that's why they are so cruel and nasty and violent...they know their whole life is a lie.
anonymous
2013-10-01 04:21:20 UTC
" When Faith was presented to you, you refused it."



I was mired in the delusion of religion until I was 16. I would NEVER go back to that idiotic nonsense. Ever.
?
2013-10-01 04:51:24 UTC
I wish I could turn the clock back and take a double shot of whisky.
pmaxu
2013-10-01 04:08:52 UTC
Clever. In the end, though, believing in something just to believe in it doesn't make sense. I'm not going to say that it wouldn't be awesome if there was a god and afterlife, but I've never seen anything that makes me believe there is.
James K
2013-10-01 04:06:26 UTC
See, you've taken the blue pill and believe that unproven assertions (religion) are factual and therefore reality.
?
2013-10-01 04:16:44 UTC
I didn't need a pill to track me. I didn't need a pill to stop believing in crap. I mean gods.
Questor
2013-10-01 04:04:48 UTC
There is no need to turn any clock back. We can 'take any pill' when ever we want, just as you can.
The Other John
2013-10-01 04:12:11 UTC
Are drugs required to become a theist? Makes sense to me.....



I'm quite happy with my state of mind thank you, no twisting needed.
?
2013-10-01 04:05:39 UTC
Reality is always preferable to delusions.
anonymous
2013-10-01 04:07:49 UTC
Ha, this is hilarious because you believe unproven hypotheses to be true while you adamantly deny tested theories.
anonymous
2013-10-01 04:21:04 UTC
The Pope gave this speech to bring forth support for the nukes being

used on

Syria.... Atheists Caused WW3 ! ! !

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Jesus is the Lord of Light set for all to see

shining bright within our world you don't to

set us free awaking come alive to enjoy that

only the word can bring away Kid, live to and to want

sound that only the lower can sing awake

and I'm alive to the Lord
Archer
2013-10-01 04:05:53 UTC
It would not change anything gods would still not exist.
anonymous
2013-10-01 04:04:38 UTC
No, never.

P.S. It wasn't like that anyway!
anonymous
2013-10-01 04:05:08 UTC
i say no to Drugs
Trev
2013-10-01 04:27:05 UTC
now


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