Question:
Men: Do you support abortion? Does your stance have anything to do with child support?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Men: Do you support abortion? Does your stance have anything to do with child support?
Sixteen answers:
anonymous
2008-07-10 09:39:23 UTC
Thats quite the generalization...some women are pro choice too you know, and I don't have kids because I practice safe sex.



Its called not being an idiot...look it up.
anonymous
2008-07-10 09:39:14 UTC
"If you are a man who supports abortion, why would any woman want to have sex with you? "



Er, don't you have that exactly backwards?



Please tell me you slipped here, and meant the opposite of what you typed. Otherwise this is one of the most clueless, backwards things I've ever seen here.
anonymous
2008-07-10 09:39:41 UTC
I support abortion.



A woman might want to have sex with me because I could satisfy her. my wife/girlfriend could have sex with other men if she wishes. She cannot expect me to stick around if she choses that path.



oddly enough, despite the fact that I am pro-choice, I have managed to have sex with multiple women. for the record, to my knowledge, none of the girls I've ever had sex with have ever had an abortion.
khard
2008-07-10 09:41:48 UTC
No one supports abortion, but it's not up to me to decide for someone else. I can't make the decision for my g/f not to have sex with other men, but I trust her not to. There are some instances when I think abortion is a viable decision.
anonymous
2008-07-10 09:44:09 UTC
My husband is and always was pro choice. So, I guess I count as at least 1 woman who would sleep with a pro choice guy.



Like the person above me said, my husband can't force me to remain faithful, but he trusts me to do the right thing.
anonymous
2008-07-10 09:50:05 UTC
You are so wrong. My husband supports choice. He is a great father, a social worker and a former therapeutic foster parent. He knows exactly what a woman endures as a single mom and where most unwanted children end up. He is respects women, is a devoted family man and a fabulous lover. That is why I have sex with him.

The reason he expects me not to have sex with other men is because I swore not to when we got married, which was also my choice. He does not force me to be faithful anymore than he would force me to bare an unwanted child.

I think it is sick that you think women are only faithful because a man tells her to be.

EDIT: Yes they did address the issue of child support. Are you blind? Several said they used protection and would support a child gotten by mistake, others pointed out that they were married and therefore had no risk of children by various women. I pointed out that my husband is pro-choice. He and I did raise the child we made out of wedlock and as we both knew we could not afford another, he got himself a vasectomy. He supports choice for many valid reasons, none are because he hopes to shirk responsibility. Honestly, we kept foster kids! We don't just take on responsibility for the kids we make, but for the ones society leaves behind. You are insulting good men with your drivel.
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2008-07-10 09:39:47 UTC
i support everybody's right to freely choose their own actions, and my right to mind my own business. and if my wife/gf wants to be a s.l.u.t., that's her right to choose, too. and i won't be going out the door slow enough for it to hit me in the @ss. happy f****ng!
anonymous
2008-07-10 09:41:16 UTC
Ma'am, most married people aren't out having abortions...
~Smirk~ Resurrected
2008-07-10 09:40:03 UTC
My boyfriend is pro-choice and I love him all the more because he respects the fact that he has no say over my body.



And cheating on your spouse has very little to do with bodies and very much to do with trust.
Andrew K
2008-07-10 09:46:19 UTC
Look, I'm pro-choice, but I realize it's a choice I'm never going to have to make, and it has absolutely nothing to do with child support. I wear condoms and that has something to do with child support, but if I slipped one by the goalie I'd be more than happy to provide for my progeny.

Also, I don't have the right to force my girlfriend not to have sex with other men. I can hope she doesn't, and break up with her if she does, but the choice remains hers. I'm not a domineering tyrant. She's got her own life and can do as she pleases.
Jana
2008-07-10 09:46:53 UTC
I agree with the asker. It takes two to tango. A man who is pro-abortion is essentially saying, "I'll plant the seed, but if anything grows, you had better spray Round-Up on it, because I am not interested in long term care of a living organism." That shows he is both irresponsible and has no respect for life. A fetus IS alive.



I am pro-life myself with only three exceptions: 1. In the case of sexual assault or incest (which account for only 1% total of all abortions), if the pregnant woman acts within the first three months, I think it's ok. However, in this day and age, who doesn't have access to the morning after pill or an ECP? 2. If the mother and baby will die if the pregnancy continues (very rare), then one can be sacvrificed to save the other. 3. If the fetus is known to have a very serious medical / mental disorder that will cause it to have a very poor quality of life, it is essentially euthenasia, which is kinder in a way.



Otherwise, it's immoral, cruel, and irresponsible.
dale
2016-05-23 02:52:43 UTC
I agree with 'SO Pleased' If you're pro choice, it doesn't mean that you cheer on abortion. It means that you support the CHOICE. You support YES and NO. I feel like a lot of people just forget that. I support the choice of abortion because it's the woman's body. The fetus is depended on the mother, which means it affecting her health, and ect.. If the fetus could live independantly from day 1, than i would change my mind. But until we create such technology, i support the right to an abortion.
Hypnotic poop slayer
2008-07-10 09:50:03 UTC
I wrote a speech about this for my school project:



Abortion is the murder of innocent lives, no less than the holocaust, 9/11 or the Jonestown murders. If you don’t want the baby or cant take care of it give it to a family that can there are lots of women out there that would give there life to be a mom but just cant due to conceiving problems.



Every year 46 Million abortions take place a year that’s Approximately 126,000 every day. Majority of abortions take place at 1-3 months old. At 1-3 months old the brain emits waves which register on an electroencephalogram which is the legal standard for determining if someone is alive after birth. Also by two months old every organ is in present and in place, everything found in an adult human being can now be found in this tiny embryo which is about and an inch and a half long.



Some of the mothers excuse is that they can’t cope with it financially and mentally however if the person can't afford the baby, then adopt it, that way it will have a chance in life.



Fertilization is the exact moment when a new human being comes into existence, this one celled life which has inherited 23 chromosomes from each parent which contains the entire genetic code for every detail of individual human development.



A quote from a professor at Harvard University of medical school: “Scientifically it is a fact of nature that human life begins at conception and it is very incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive”



We therefore know when life begins we must decide at what point in the development of that life we as a society will confer rights of personhood and the most fundamental of which is the right to not be murdered



Many women use the excuse rape as a valid reason to abort a child however:



There are women who are raped and become pregnant; the problem is that they were raped, not that they are pregnant.



There are women who are starving who become pregnant; the problem is that they are starving, not that they are pregnant. There are women in abusive relationships who become pregnant; the problem is that they are in abusive relationships, not that they are pregnant.



The question of rape:

Rape is an act of violent assault against an innocent woman HOWEVER

Abortion is an act of violent assault against an unborn innocent child

Why is one life protected and the other is is not? Nobody agrees that a rape based conception is grounds reason for killing someone after birth however the majority will justify such violence before birth. Incest and rape account for less than 1% of all the abortions performed in the U.K. Aborting a child conceived through rape simply extends the pattern of violence and victimhood. It will not take away the memory of the rape which is sadly something the woman will bear for the rest of her life.



A common question being asked in our society today is: Why are kids killing and harming each other and why are kids killing themselves, many reasons are given but not many answers are given, here is an answer:



Abortion teaches violence; it is because those who have grown up in a society which grants mothers the legal right to massacre their unborn child will see human life as disposable and just as much value as litter. We should not be shocked when young people of today resort to violence to solve their problems when some individuals in our society embrace violence to solve our own problems by unplanned pregnancies



Having an abortion it may damage the long-term physical and emotional health of women who have an abortion.



A common view is that Human life occurs at conception, but fertilized eggs used for in vitro fertilization are also human lives and those not implanted are routinely thrown away. Is this murder, and if not, then how is abortion murder? However the child that is about to be aborted was lucky enough to live other than the millions that died if the others did die it is not a legitimate excuse to abort a perfectly healthy child. Another view is that if the child is going to be born with severe defects then it is ok to have an abortion, this statement is very false since the child with the severe defects is still a human being and still deserves to be treated like any other human and live regardless of severity of a disability, if you do not want to look after a disabled child then you should just give the child away to adoption at least that way the child will have a chance at life.



Another mistaken view is that stress was greatest prior to an abortion, and that there was no evidence of post-abortion syndrome. However 90% of women regret their decision and many women can become depressed because they aborted the child.



Conclusion- right and wrong-Must stop



There is a line between right and wrong, and it becomes crystal clear when you observe the murder of defenceless children. The doctors that make money out if it should be deeply ashamed. Abortion involves a level of cruelty no compassionate person could ever accept.







Of course saying all that I am also pro choice, you know it's all upto the woman.
Daver
2008-07-10 14:23:19 UTC
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Nope. No way.





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No, it has everything to do with morality: that the unborn are to be considered living human beings from the moment of conception until natural death. It's that simple.





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Unfortunately, there are plenty of women out there who support abortion. Therefore, I think those men who support it will have little trouble hooking up with women who feel the same way about abortion.





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Excuse me? In what way have I failed to live up to the standards I profess? Truth is, you can't answer that question because you don't know me personally - as you do not know most men out there.



That is why generalizations are always wrong, and hurts the credibility of anyone who uses them.





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Once a woman becomes preganant, it's no longer all about her. There is a the body of a living human being growing inside of her.



Can I tell a woman what to do with her body? I would say, in most cases, no. I CAN, however, tell a woman what to do, or not do as the case may be, with the body of the little one growing inside of her.





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Nope. I'll just tell her what she can or cannot do, as the case may be, with the body of the little one inside of her.





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My girlfriend? Yes, I do have that right to expect her to be chaste - because having sex before marriage is immoral. It's an offense against God as well as against the boyfriend.



My wife - who has taken a vow to forsake all others, you better believe that means I have a right to expect her not to have sex with other men. Morally speaking, that's an even bigger offense against God and husband.





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We all, men and woman, have bodies - but that doesn't mean we reserve the right to do whatever we want with our bodies.



There is no such thing as the "right" to be immoral. Such a thing is called "license".





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That's because the main issue is abortion. If a woman chooses to have an abortion, child-support becomes irrelevant. Child support only becomes relevant to the discussion once the woman has chosen, rightfully I might add, to give birth to the child and raise him/her. In that situation, it is the moral obligation of BOTH parents to do WHATEVER is necessary to raise their children as best they can. If the situation warrants child-support, it's up to the parent, not living with the child, to provide child-support.



There, now you can no longer claim no man avoided the issue of child-support.





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That is shamefully selfish of such men. Granted, abortion is shamefully selfish of the mother.





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No one should have sex with anyone who supports abortion, man or woman.
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2008-07-10 10:59:54 UTC
I have a question. Why would a woman want to keep a child when she knows it's not going to have a father? To me, that's selfish and worse than a man supporting abortion.....thanks!



BTW - the guy above me answered this question perfectly.
ANDRE L
2008-07-10 09:54:00 UTC
Well, your whole post is rife with misandrous sexist ASSumptions.



Lets nail down a few facts. One, if we acknowledge that women have a right to control and choose what happens to their bodies, then the same right should be granted to men. This is known as Equality.



Next, in contract law, liability follows authority. If a person has Zero say over a choice that has downstream consequences, then that person with the Zero say has to have Equal, Zero, liability for any and all of the consequences of Someone Else's Choice.



Ergo, demanding child support $$$ from men, when women have not only the sole Choice WRT abortion, but when women also have the some Choices (plural) over non medical and non biological legal means to post natally void, permanently, all of their parental responsibilities, it is then doubly misandristic to demand that men, who have Zero authority over any of this, to bear MORE responsibility than the women who got the Sole Choices.



"Her body, her Choice... HER *responsibility*."



Oh, any woman can have sex with anyone, inside or outside of marriage, that she chooses to. Many in fact not only do that, but then they LIE to their husbands about the children that they made with the studbois, who aren't of the cuckolded husband. See "Paternity Fraud", which affects at least 10% of all children.



But, to then try to claim that such cheating wives should not have to bear a consequence of her husband telling her "No more cheating or I'm gone, and you get not one more dime to support your cheating ways" is... insane.



Consequences apply, EVEN TO WOMEN. Duh.


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