Question:
Meditation?
Hey, Ray
2007-03-04 18:57:07 UTC
what are the differences between Christian and Eastern meditation? All I know is that Christian meditation is just study, rememberance, and application, and you don't need to clear the mind or anything, just focus.

but what exactly is Eastern meditation?
Fifteen answers:
kotodama1
2007-03-04 19:27:09 UTC
The main goal of eastern meditation, mainly Buddhist meditation, is to clear the mind of distractions. Mostly the mind is continually thinking of stuff. There is a constant dialog of thoughts. It's like a runner who never stops moving. The idea is just to get the mind into a resting state.



In Catholic mysticism the goal is to bring oneself closer to communion with God. Where the Buddhist experiences oneness with everything, the Catholic describes their experience as divine Love.



Meditation in general, both prayer and eastern style meditation, change the brain state. Dr. Andrew Newberg has studied brain states of Tibetan monks and Catholic nuns engaged in "meditation" and discovered there are certain parts of the brain that become active in the same way for both groups.



Newberg found that when Buddhists and Catholic mystics speak of their absorptive experiences they describe them in very similar terms. Dr. James H. Austin has done extensive studies on the brain states of Zen meditators and remarks that the changes in brain function of advanced meditators are both extensive and profound.



There is a popular beleif among some Christians that if one "empties" the mind then unknown evil influences will take over the person. Both meditation and intense prayer are psychological activities that can have profound effects on the individual. There are situations where unguided internal focus of either kind can cause the practitioner problems. Mostly though, beginning meditators cannot empty the mind as the brain is continually thinking of things to think about.
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2016-12-23 06:56:36 UTC
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neuralzen
2007-03-04 20:14:11 UTC
Eastern meditation deals more with concentrating on emptyness of mind (which is not dangerous, you don't have a lack of will, it's simply dedicated to being empty), or concentrating on visualization. For example, one might hold and object and analyze it carefully. Then the meditator would close his eyes and try to concentrate and picture the object as clearly as possible in every detail. When the meditator was satisfied no more detail could be added, you open your eyes an dlook at the object you hold to see what you did not remember. Then repeat the excersize and remember new details. The emptyness of mind meditation is very important because while you are concentrating on being empty, thoughts still arise. Your state of mind, however, allows you to reflext and analyze these thoughts from a neutral perspective as opposed to be in them and swept away by them. In short, it is an important tool for self analysis. There are other forms, but these are the main two that I know of.
Raul D
2007-03-04 19:17:42 UTC
You are talking about modern Christian meditation, this is different from meditation in the Bible. Quotes like this, "Be still my soul and know that he is God," are all over the Bible. Modern Christians just have lost the understanding of it. Eastern meditation comes in several types. Yoga, transcendental, Tai Chi, zen, several others. Yoga and Tai Chi are both moving meditation. Zen and transcendental are both seated meditation. In most types of meditation you will find that the goal is to stop the mind from wandering. This is achieved by using a focal point such as a candle or by concentrating on a sound or concept. When you first begin, you have trouble concentrating on anything. We spend a lifetime with our minds in constant motion, it takes a while to teach it to be still. Transcendental meditation will start with exercises to stop mind wandering and then move on to trying to see beyond this reality. The Biblical type of meditation is a conceptual meditation, IE you meditate on a concept such as in the above quoted verse. Both meditation to stop mind wandering and conceptual meditation are spoken of in the Bible.
sweet cheeks
2007-03-04 19:06:17 UTC
Gee I have been trying to figure out the same thing. Christian meditation is just studying and thinking about the passage. Eastern involves emptying your mind. most Christians do not realize that they are emptying there mind when they meditate in an eastern style. The problem with emptying your mind is that anything can fill it. You are giving control over to any spirit that wants in. Each position in Yoga has different spiritual meanings and was created for a specific reason. Emptying your mind in a yoga meditation is a very spiritually dangerous thing.
blogbaba
2007-03-04 19:30:05 UTC
The blogbaba considers meditation a form of exercise designed to clear the mind and focus physical activity towards a physical goal. In terms of martial arts, Eastern or otherwise, mental attitude, (confidence, self awareness, purpose or simply just competitive will) are aspects of combat that are as important as physical strength, dexterity, or conditioning. To sharpen ones skills each aspect must be trained. One can use any object or idea to focus their mind, and mental exercise is as important as physical exercise.



Religious implications of self awareness vs a divine all powerful creator are polar opposite forms of religious dogma. It is best to ask God which is superior, since He created both lines of reason. God is bigger than any particular way of worshiping Him. Organized religion falls woefully short of most human expectations, because it is created by humans, therefor inherently flawed.



Eastern meditation is a form of self hypnosis.



Always settle for nothing less than the truth, eventually if you search long enough you will find what you are looking for.
papavero
2007-03-04 19:46:33 UTC
Very different in intend, practice, objective;



Eastern Meditation ==What is transcendental meditation? (TM) It involves sitting upright with eyes closed and letting the mind drift effortlessly toward a word or phrase known as a “mantra.” Advocates of TM say that it is neither a religion nor a philosophy nor a way of life. They advertise TM as simply “a natural and effortless technique for improving all aspects of life.”

Interesting, too, is how the Encyclopædia Britannica (1976) defines “mantra”: “in Hinduism and Buddhism, a sacred utterance (syllable, word or verse) considered to possess mystical or spiritual efficacy. . . . Mantras continue to be an important feature of Hindu religious rites and domestic ceremonies. Initiation into many sects involves the whispering of a secret mantra into the ear of the initiate by the guru (spiritual teacher).”



Siddhārtha Gautama gave up his family, his possessions, and his princely name and spend the next six years seeking the answer from Hindu teachers and gurus, but without success. The accounts tell us that he pursued a course of meditation, fasting, Yoga, and extreme self-denial, yet he found no spiritual peace or enlightenment.

Eventually he came to realize that his extreme course of self-denial was as useless as the life of self-indulgence that he had led before. He now adopted what he called the Middle Way, avoiding the extremes of the life-styles that he had been following. Deciding that the answer was to be found in his own consciousness, he sat in meditation under a pipal, or Indian fig tree. Resisting attacks and temptations by the devil Mara, he continued steadfast in his meditation for four weeks (some say seven weeks) until he supposedly transcended all knowledge and understanding and reached enlightenment. Having attained enlightenment, and after overcoming some initial hesitation, the Buddha set forth to teach his newfound truth, his dharma, to others.



For Christians==What does it mean to meditate? One dictionary defines the word as “to focus one’s thoughts on: reflect on or ponder over.” And the word “ponder” means “to think about: reflect on . . . to think or consider especially quietly, soberly, and deeply.”

Meditate appreciatively on God’s Word. Why is meditation essential? For two reasons. First, meditation enables us to assimilate what we read and to develop heart appreciation for it. Second, meditation prevents us from forgetting Jehovah, his wonderful works, and the hope he has set before us.
2007-03-04 19:12:10 UTC
You seem to have a handle on it. Christian meditation involves the mind. Meditating on God's Word, or what God has revealed in Scripture, is the thing. We read some of the Bible, then think it through; pray and ask for guidance, etc. Eastern meditation is a process of emptying your mind, and I believe, for no good purpose. I went to a Hare Krishna festival in Venice CA and they were applauding some guru for spending several hours a day in mindless meditation. Christians know that God wants us to grow, not sit and contemplate our navels or to empty our minds and let them be filled with whatever happens to pop in them (including demonic suggestion). No, we live with the knowledge of God, and we "meditate" on the application of what He has said in the Bible. There is plenty to think through, and we weren't given minds to sit and go blank while staring at a candle. We imbibe God's truth, and we meditate; whether that be in a specific quiet time/prayer time alone, or whether we are driving down the street in our vehicles. Christian meditation is very vital and active. Eastern meditation is passive, and according to Scripture, a VERY pointless - a waste of life.
vinslave
2007-03-04 19:27:44 UTC
Depends on how you define "Christian"... the original groups of Christians or the modern era ones? Hindu meditation or Buddhist?



You have to be more specific... Hindus and Christians believe in an omnipotent creator deity... Buddhism does not, which is the ultimate difference.



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John B
2007-03-04 19:46:12 UTC
Buddhist meditation is about being aware of what is going on in your mind.

Basic meditation technique is to concentrate your entire mind on the rising and falling of your diaphragm as you breath. Not exerting control over the process but concentrating on watching the process internally and watching what you mind is doing. Extraneous thoughts and ideas will arise in your conciousness and you should be aware that this is happening, realize that these events are occuring and stop the process by refocusing on breathing.

By concentrating on a simple process and letting intrusive processes be recognized and pushed aside we can learn to focus our minds on a single issue and avoid intrusion of all other issues onto our thought processes.

It is often refered to as controlling the monkey mind. Monkeys will run all over the place exploring whatever comes to hand rather than exploring one thing to its conclusion. Rather than scatter mental energy on talking, driving, planning dinner, getting angry about what the boss said and selecting what video to rent simultaneously and doing none of these with proper concentration the Buddhist practice is to treat each issue as a seperate and complete thing without intrusion of the others.

Only if your mind is focused on a single issue can it be resolved with a clear mind.

Simple example is that if you are angry about an unrelated issue it will effect your judgement on all issues you are dealing with.
2007-03-04 20:51:23 UTC
this website will tell you what exactly the eastern meditation.



http://www.11meditation.co.nr



it's a meditation method from Theravada Buddhist religion in Thailand.
2017-02-17 20:06:43 UTC
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Giggly Giraffe
2007-03-04 19:04:11 UTC
I never learned Christian Meditation that way...puzzlying.

Eastern is like Yoga where u clear mind and force ur self to presant ... chants to harmonize ... and Christianity can also be done with Yoga.
2007-03-04 19:03:34 UTC
Practising being still, body sometimes and mind always. I like to call it "divine being".
Thomas
2007-03-05 15:52:32 UTC
*Please Kindly and Patiently read this. Thxs.



In Christian meditation one is to pray first, casting all their cares on Jesus, relaxing the mind, then focus on one scripture, dwelling on it, while having a thankfull attitude to God for the scriptures. You do not deviate to the right or to the left from the scripture you are deeply and thankfully pondering on. Joshua states this, in first Joshua chapter one. There is not to be any anxious or worrisome thoughts, as you meditate on the scripture, if you have casted all your cares/anxieties first - on Jesus, before meditating on the scripture. And while meditating on the scripture, one does not add or take away from that scripture. But allows the Spirit of God to give clarity and understanding.



In Buddhist meditation, I'll "briefly" mention/explain three types: mindfulness meditation {or often called the mindfulness of breathing) one does the following steps {Patiently read below) please:

*As we approach the stressors in our life with an optimistic attitude, it will help us a great deal to deal effectively with stress, anger, fear, poor self-image, depression, anxieties, etc. The main way to deal with stress, anger, etc. is to take 20 min. early in the morning, and 20 min. in the evening to practice a simple meditation called the mindfulness of breathing. [Practicing Analytical meditation for 20 min. a day; spoken of later, is quite helpful also].

Mindfulness Meditation or what is often called, The Mindfulness of Breathing exercises:

1) Be in a comfortable position, whether sitting

or lying down.

2) Have someone watch your children for

about 20 min. [Increase in time gradually, after practicing for a month].

Then close your eyes, and concentrate

totally on your breathing.

3) At the end of your first inhalation of oxygen,

count one. Keep doing this until you get to

ten. *Remain patient with yourself.

4) Then focus your attention on breathing only

through your nostrils, which filter out all

the things, which are not healthy to breath

into your lungs. Be aware of the various

sensations through your nostrils, while you

continue the counting. When you get to

ten, start again at one.

5) When a distracting thoughts enters your mind

allow them to pass through {your mind], without judging them, or trying to fix them. Just be mindful/aware of them. {You are not emptying your mind into nothingness. You are quite aware/mindful of everything happening).

And then gently, patiently bring your full

attention back to your breath. Every time,

a distracting thought {any thought which

would take your attention of your breath),

comes to your mind, you need to use this

skillful, disciplinary method of bring it back.

Thoughts might come into our minds, ie:

worrisome , or pressing thoughts

which indicate to us that we have an anxious mind. During meditation, anxiety is let go.

Just be patient w/yourself, and keep practicing.

**"There is proven evidence of the

Success of The Mindfulness of Breathing

Exercises Proven by Dr. Jon Kabat-ZinnPhD

Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn PhD. has a book

out called, "Coming to Our Senses' which

teaches this. *There is also a book called, " The

Beginner's Guide to Insight Meditation"

by: Arinna Weisman & Jean Smith which is most

Excellent also.*” Meditation is the eighth factor in the Eightfold Path of Budhism. The Mindfulness of Breathing greatly help us to clearly see things as they really are, in order to act and react in a healthy manner toward people, and situations in life. We are thus able to walk in unconditional loving-kindness and patience toward others in life - brings us peace.

Mindfulness meditation{mindfulness of breathing and Analytical meditation is excellent for cultivating Patience {patience/endurance is the ability to remain internally calm, peaceful, and undisturbed, even in the face of difficulities and harm) ! In Dr. Jon Kabat-Zinn's clinic in Mass. he teaches the mindfulness of breathing to his patients to help them reduce pain, stress, anxiety, anger, depression, and worry. Many people establish the practice of mindfulness, as a way of life for themselves. For some, who are very Analytical, and might have a difficult time calming down their mind, "analytical meditation" is probably geared more for them. This method of meditation is excellent for effectively dealing with pain, stress, & anger. Training in Patience: {done in both mindfulness and especially in Analytical meditation) The meditation of observing our stress and anger involves paying close attention to the storyline behind stress and anger. We note the blood rushing to our head, our heart pounding, the emotional pain of hurt feelings, disappointment, & unfulfilled expectations. Simply observing these, “but Not reacting to them by clinging to them or pushing them away, we experience them as they are in the present. In doing so, we watch them arise And Cease in their own accord.” Mindfulness is very effective in letting go of Negative, Unwholesome thoughts and emotions, so they do not come out of our mouth. [as does christian meditation, ie: meditating on the scripture that says, "Let No unwholesome words come out of your mouth, but only that which is beneficial to the hearer]" *“Techniques in which we re-frame the situation constitute most of this volume, and they fall in the category of 'Analytical meditation, in which we investigate our thoughts, feeling, and perceptions to discern if they are accurate and beneficial. [for the christian meditating on a scripture is quite helpful, for the scripture gives one discernment as to the thoughts and intentions of his or her heart, to lead to repentance]. In Buddhist meditation, changing the way we describe and interpret situations subdue stress, pain, anger because we stop exaggerating and projecting negativities onto people, and situations'. In this way, the external event, its meaning, & our position in it appear to us differently- clearly, and our stress and anger evaporates.” Meditation on love, patience and compassion{loving-kindness meditation], (which many do as form of walking meditation) strengthens these positive thoughts and emotions in our minds and hearts, which are beneficial because these thoughts and emotions act not only as antidotes to stress and anger, but also as measures preventing them from arising. So for some, mindfully observing their Thoughts and emotions allow stress and anger to subdue naturally, while for others, a more Analytical approach is necessary. Through investigation{introspection), we see clearly that stress and anger are states of mind that misapprehends their object {either the person or the situation). But remember, subduing stress & anger, to cultivate Patience properly is a slow and steady process. Don’t expect them to always disappear overnight. Reacting stressfully and in anger are deeply ingrained habits, & like all habits, it takes time to unlearn. Note: Think about this, who really gives us the best opportunity to demonstrate patience, compassion, and tolerance? Not our friends, because they are nice to us. It is our enemies. Through having an optimistic attitude, we can clearly see that it is our enemies which help us that infinitely beneficial, wholesome quality of Patience. It is those who harm and offend us that actually give us excellent opportunities to cultivate Patience{that ability to remain calm, peaceful, and undisturbed, even in the face of difficulites or harm)! Love is Very Patient ! “Meditation helps people to deal effectively with stress, and anger – to cultivate Patience and tolerance, resulting in Peace of Mind.

Recall, “Patience” is the ability to remain internally calm, peaceful, and undisturbed in the face of harm or difficulties. Through the situations in life which we are faced with, patience and wisdom are cultivated and stress-energy w/in us, and the anger-energy within us are slowly dissolved, resulting in peace of mind.*



Christian meditation serves rightfully so, to greatly help to transform the christians mind (Rom. 12:2) as he or she thinks on these things,

as Paul said in Phil 4:7-8, which brings peace of mind. And I have already mentioned, {if you feel the need go ahead and re-read that section

the many benefits of the mindfulness of breathing, loving-kindness meditation, and Analyltical meditation - to walk in unconditional

loving-kindness and patience toward others and oneself. I hope this helped some.

Thank You for Your Excellent Question, Remain Optimistic. The world needs more people like you, who have a positive optimistic attitudes in Life. I encourage you to daily meditating the way in which is most comfortable and beneficial to you -in order to successfully demonstrate Patience and Lovingkindness to all people throughout the world.



P.S. - both methods of meditation are excellent, and quite helpful in cultivating lovingkindness and Patience toward people, especially if we go into meditation with the proper attitude. There is no superior meditation. Meditators are "not in competition" with others who meditate in their own ways. It simply depends on your religious background, as to what kind of meditation is more confortable for you.

The purpose of Christian meditation and Buddhist meditations is to help us cultivate humility, loving-kindness, Patience, and understanding. There is no competition, except with ourselves, in order to learn humility and unconditonal Love. If one goes into meditation competively, with the wrong motives, it will be a futile - causing only pride, arrogance, and

self-righteousness.



Also, in the Christian "must" always clear his mind from all worries, problems, and anxieties by praying - casting his cares on Jesus, [trusting on the Lord with all your heart, leaning not on your own understanding = allowing the Spirit of God to give you insight and understanding on what the Word is saying to you] while meditating on a scripture, or else it will interfere with having a successful meditative session on the word of God. For the Buddhist, clearing away the anxious mind to cultivate patience and love is done during the meditative practice {especially in Analytical meditation, ie: deeply thinking, pondering on the disadvantages of anger, impatience, lust, selfishness, and the harm those unwholesome thoughts, words and actions can do to others) !

Hope this helps, for I came across many negative, narrow-minded, condemning answers before the one I have shared with you. That is sad, for it indicates that some do not pray, before meditating on the Word, therefore their meditative sessions does not produce humility, patience and loving-kindness toward others, but only pride and self-righteousness.



Going into meditation {whether Christian or Buddhist meditation) with a proper attitude beforehand, always produces true unconditional love, and "Humility" - and never a critcal/judgmental attitude toward others. Jesus told humanity, Not to judge, criticize or condemn others {Matthew 7:1-5) or else He defines us as actors, pretenders and hypocrites who need to change our ways. For the Christian, going into meditation, with the proper attitude keeps one from becoming negative, critical, judgmental and condemning toward others. Having a Humbly Teachable Attitude always leads to effective communication in life with people, as well.



Thank You for Patiently reading this. Maintain

your healthy Optimistic attitude in life, which will help bring you peace of mind, and happiness.


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