Question:
Icebergs float, so Eskimos didn't need Noah's Ark to survive?
anonymous
2007-11-03 20:02:25 UTC
If I was an eskimo during the Great Flood, I could just carve a cave along the side of the iceberg. Bingo! instant shelter from wind, and rain. Actually, all I'd need to do is stretch a seal skin ceiling across a few logs, or blocks of ice and I'd have a rain proof shelter.

There's plenty of fresh water for drinking (after it stopped raining for 40 days i could melt ice). Plenty of fish in the ocean to eat. Survivability seems quite possible in this case. In addition, huge icebergs take years to melt, even in the hot sun.

Your thoughts?
21 answers:
Lights
2007-11-03 20:07:52 UTC
I never thought of it that way, but it seems to me that it would be a perfect shelter/way of surviving. Good thinking because as you stated, icebergs take years to melt and since it would be raining and its cold where the icebergs are, it wouldnt cause them to melt because wouldn't the rain freeze on the iceberg?
anonymous
2007-11-03 20:20:36 UTC
You are making the faulty assumption that the climate then was the same as the climate now, thus icebergs. What if the flood precipitated (pun intended) the climate change that produced the glaciations we now take for granted? What if the flood waters covered a previously mild climate over the entire globe? No safety in floating ice then. No, if there was a universal flood caused by God, then only eight humans survived, because the same God who designed the flood designed who would survive and how they would survive, and then told us about it.



Edit:



Wouldn't even think of polar bears "evolving" from other critters after the flood. Amusing proposal. There is better science in the concept of adaptation. That way the net genetic information of a species remains relatively constant, even though specific populations throw out some information and emphasize other information in order to cope with climatic or competitive changes in local habitats. In other words, polar bears are white bears that do well in the cold because those kinds of adaptations were incipiently available in the master gene pool for bears as a species. This principle of genetic potential for adaptation would work for the other cold weather species you mentioned as well. Furthermore, this type of adaptation has been experimentally verified. Evolution need not apply.
w2
2007-11-03 22:16:47 UTC
"And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained [alive], and they that [were] with him in the ark." (Gen 7:23)



According to that only Noah and they who were with him in the Ark survived the flood. I also see no reason to presuppose floating ice at that time, for the Bible says that all the high hills were covered which would probably include hills of ice, thus no floating icebergs. If however you must have icebergs floating around during the flood, that could yet be considered as a form of water prevailing, but it's unlikely since the original land was one mass whose mountains of ice would have fallen on itself, not in the ocean. Suboceanic volcanic activity would also have likely risen the temperature of the overall flood waters to the melting point of any supposed floating ice, but not enough to kill all the fish. As for polar bears, penguins, and walruses, they can live in other environments besides ice. Penguins for example can be found in the Galapagos Islands.
fuzz
2007-11-03 20:12:29 UTC
I think your logs would sink. A world covered in water would make massive tidal waves, because the moon would still create the tides, but the continents wouldn't be able to stop them. The logs would become waterlogged. There's no mention of cold weather until Genesis 8, which is after the flood, so there may not have been any icebergs before that. If you could think that quickly, and there were icebergs, maybe it could work, but I still think the waves would get you. Or the boulders being carried by the flood water. Or the mudslides. You wouldn't survive off of Noah's Ark.
?
2007-11-03 20:12:50 UTC
Aha! But a polar bear could climb up onto your berg, and he'd try to eat you or push you into the water. You might not be lucky enough to hitch a ride on a HUGE iceberg. Then, what if you saw a really nice looking eskimo of the opposite sex flying by you on another ice berg and you couldn't get over there? Wouldn't it just be better to hole up with a bunch of animals in a big wooden boat?



Edit: About those troublesome polar bears, walruses, penguins and sealions, etc. Isn't it obvious that God was cruising around in a little submarine zapping these creatures into existance, as he liked? Probably he did it just to give us something to think about.



(How can anyone read or answer this question seriously? Hmmm.)
hsmomlovinit
2007-11-03 20:12:39 UTC
And while it's raining night and day for a month and a half straight, so much so that the mountains are covered, I'm sure that litle igloo on an iceberg would do you a whole lot of good. Great idea there.



There have been meteorological models made and studied that show that the time of the flood would have been a time of the worst worldwide weather catastrophes ever known...yep, that lil' igloo would have come in really handy.
irish1
2007-11-03 20:23:16 UTC
Hmm - there is precedent. In 1872 - 73, the surviving members of Charles Francis Hall's Arctic expedition are said to have survived for several months on a drifting ice floe, before being picked up by a whaling ship.

Of course, that they lived though this was entirely due to the presence of Inuit guides who understood Arctic survival and who were able to hunt for the group.
weinman
2016-10-23 12:48:19 UTC
it is merely the end of the iceberg. the tale merely would not carry water. yet you could communicate up a typhoon about those arguments and also you're nonetheless swimming adversarial to the tide with those believers. in spite of the actuality that floats their boat, i wager.
anonymous
2007-11-04 07:34:43 UTC
Good question, I suppose the same reason the Australian aboriginal people can trace their ancestry on the island to 40,000 years ago give or take. Because a massive flood has not covered the earth in recent times.
anonymous
2007-11-03 20:25:20 UTC
Yeah your right. Who has ever heard of waves eroding dirt, rocks away? Oh wait it happens all the time. Rivers are a good example of it. The Grand Canyon is a great example of it. Waves could easily break down ice. But you have your beliefs as we have ours. Peace
Alex S
2007-11-03 20:12:04 UTC
This story was written in a place where

such a flood would have devastating

effects on nature and it's inhabitants with

little or no natural shelter around. There're

actually lots of places where you could

easily survive such a flood.
Mel
2007-11-03 20:07:43 UTC
You could have only done this if you would have had the time to plan. The only way you would have taken the time to plan was if you would have had faith and believed that the flood was coming. And if you would have had faith and believed that the flood was coming, then you would have just gotten on the Ark like Noah said.
goldyyloxx
2007-11-03 20:09:12 UTC
The bergs were melted by the water; God would not have allowed anyone to think up such a scheme if the bergs were still standing either. Man has no control, he just thinks he does.
anonymous
2007-11-03 20:08:42 UTC
Oh.....you may have a good point there. But of course, all the fundies have to do is say that "god" melted the icebergs, and presto!!....they have the answer. Of course seals, walruses and polar bears could have survived as well. But somehow I just know that the fundies have all this covered.
anonymous
2007-11-03 20:07:11 UTC
The great flood and Noah's Ark is a nonsense story of an event that never took place. You're wasting your time. Think about more important stuff than this. Why don't you try to come up with a new energy source? Or some way to fix the climate change?
cosmo
2007-11-03 20:08:13 UTC
There are a lot more problems with the Noah flood story than just this.
Lionheart ®
2007-11-03 20:07:00 UTC
This is something that Noah's people never thought of.
anonymous
2007-11-03 20:11:24 UTC
You rainproof shelter wouldn't get fresh air, and you would sufficate.
Megan
2007-11-03 20:07:18 UTC
catching fish and eating them raw while you freeze on ice doesn't sound good to me
Scumspawn
2007-11-03 20:07:28 UTC
Works for me! :)
Nikki
2007-11-03 20:06:25 UTC
Accept JESUS INTO YOUR HEART ALREADY!!!


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