If Jehovah's Witness leaders had the eyes of understanding,why was there no WT listings of Christ's presence?

Question

prior until 1950??

If they had the eyes of understanding, why it took so long time for them to realize Jesus Christ's invisible presence?

Answer 1

If the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society was publishing the invisible presence of the Lord Jesus Christ as beginning in 1914 for decades before 1914, why did they publish the following in the Harp of God in 1921?



“The prophet then was shown that the 1260 years would mark the beginning of the time of the end of this beastly order. Twelve hundred sixty years from 539 A. D. brings us to 1799, another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of the “time of the end”…This date, therefore, when understood, would certainly fix the time when the Lord is due at his second appearing. Applying the same rule, then, of a day for a year, 1335 days after 539 A. D. brings us to 1874 A. D., at which time, according to Biblical chronology, the Lord’s second presence is due.” (p. 235)



“There are two important dates here that we must not confuse, but clearly differentiate, namely, the beginning of ‘the time of the end’ and of ‘the presence of the Lord’. ‘The time of the end’ embraces a period from 1799 A. D., as above indicated, to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan’s empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah. The time of the Lord’s second presence dates from 1874, as above stated. The latter period is within the first named, of course, and in the latter part of the period known as ‘the time of the end.’” (p. 236)

Answer 2

Why was it said,"million now living will never die," from 1918, as

they believed that 1975 was year 6000.

The only error could be is that 1974 was year 6040, so that year

5980 was 1914, or as they say, 2520th year after Babylon ended

Judah kings is less 606 BCE, 1914 CE.

Rev.9:1-5[5x 30 =] 150 the pit is open for Satan, God's sealed are there,

2520th year + 150 = 2670. Dan.12:1-12[2x 1335 = ] 2670, now at 2010

CE is 2616 years after Babylon ended Judah kings, 96 years after 2520.

Satan will be down Rev.17:5,6,10-14, all of the 8th that is of the 7.

Jesus has work to do before he comes with his first resurrected for his

1000 yr reign with Satan in the pit, Rev.20:1-6, for all to be made new.

Rev.21:1-5.

Answer 3

Greetings,



You’ve done faulty research:



What was the full title of the Watchtower magazine starting in 1917? It was “The Watch Tower and HERALD OF CHRIST’S PRESENCE.” !!!



“When first produced, in July 1879, it was called Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence...On January 1, 1909, the title was changed to The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence, in order to focus attention more clearly on the objective of the magazine. As of January 1, 1939, putting increased emphasis on the fact that Christ was already ruling from heaven as King, the title was altered to read The Watchtower and Herald of Christ’s Kingdom.”–Proclaimers p. 724





“Neither Barbour nor Russell was the first to explain the Lord’s return as an invisible presence. Much earlier, Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727) had written that Christ would return and reign “invisible to mortals.” In 1856, Joseph Seiss, a Lutheran minister in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, had written about a two-stage second advent—an invisible parousia, or presence, followed by a visible manifestation. Then, in 1864, Benjamin Wilson had published his Emphatic Diaglott with the interlinear reading “presence,” not “coming,” for parousia.”--Proclaimers p. 46



A 5 minute search brought up several quotes:



Wt. Nov, 1916: “ By the sudden, and now increasingly frequent, flashes of light which issue from the storm clouds that surround the invisible, spiritual presence of our glorious King,



Wt. Aug. 1898: “The days of the Son of Man are the days of his or presence, --invisible and unknown to the world, known only to the Watchers and seen by them only with the eye of faith.



Wt. Jan. 1896: “They fail to see that our Lord is a spirit being, whose second advent, glory and power, will be spiritual, not fleshly; that his Millennial parousia--presence--will be invisible to men;



Yours,



BAR-ANERGES

Answer 4

Why would he need to come to earth invisibly to inspect all the religeons





surely he could have done that from heaven, if angels can see what is going on from heaven then why couldn't Jesus



they use the term he has to come down and see to make it look like he is incapable of vieiwing the truth from heaven like a normal angel would





it's another attempt to lie and say he is not God and that he is not able to see what is going on inHeaven, which is silly really since even the angels could see what is happeining on the earth when looking down from heaven



silly silly





Also if he did turn up invisibly, then how did they know he truned up at all





it's another way of denying judgement by Jesus, they make out the second coming has already hapened therefore their wont be another coming of Jesus



they have their own revelations book, they have inserted the word Wild infront of beast at every given opportuninty in the book of Revelation in their own NWT, and the Real bible tells us there are severe consequnece forthose that add and take words away from the book of Revelation





even the makers of false scripture beleive the own nonsense they have created, how dark is their own deception, that even the ones who created the lies beleive the same lies themselves!!!!!!



Peace in Christ



They say it was invislbe to maintian the fact that Jesus did not have a physical ressurection



but how can a body that never sinned ever perish????





Don't fear the watchtower, it is a mark of artemis, the same moon god muhammed worshipped





Dont fear the esoterics the secret insiders, bar enos, conundrum vot vottie anarchist and their yellow brick road, they know the truth but prefer the esoteric gifts that the watchtower throws at them for deceiving many, pray that may change their hearts



Peace in our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

Answer 5

JWs perceived that Jesus' presence would be invisible BEFORE 1914. You need to re-check your sources.

Answer 6

If you did your research you would find that the first prediction of 1914 from Jehovah's witnesses happened in the 1870's with written proof and explanation of this date.

Answer 7

If you mean Jesus Christ's spirit presence in heaven, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Everyone in this organization has been well aware all along of Christ's headship as king of God's kingdom.

Answer 8

You are mistaken.

Jehovah's Witnesses publicised it for decades before 1914

Answer 9

Bible clearly says when Jesus comes again all will know it and he won't be invisible. The cult of JW's has made a habit of false prophecies and also don't follow the true Bible but their own made up blasphemous version of it.

Answer 10

I thought that Christs return would be vastly visible. Did he sneak in and only let the Witnesses know?

Answer 11

What other religion was given that insight?