Question:
So humans and apes have a common ancestor according to evolutionists...?
hiniikken
2013-09-24 06:28:03 UTC
Question: What about modern humans , all 7 billion of us....do we have a common ancestor?
21 answers:
?
2013-09-24 06:46:15 UTC
Actually the model calculates that what it calls the Most Recent Common Ancestor, or MRCA, was much more recent than that, at about 1500 BC, meaning that there was a person alive at that time from whom all currently living human beings are directly descended. Surprisingly, that puts it closer to the time of Moses, and is much more recent than Adam and Eve, Noah, or even Abraham. All the respondents here who are claiming huge numbers like 100,000 or 300,000 years ago for a common ancestor are relying on outdated mythology and need to take a look into a little something the rest of us call Science.
George Patton
2013-09-24 06:47:24 UTC
Well, you're a bit confused it seems. Humans ARE apes. If you mean share a common ancestor with all the other apes, then yes we do. DNA analysis easily proves this. In fact, ALL life on Earth has a common acestor, way back. And we certainly do not have a common ancestor from 5 to 10,000 years ago. That's nonsense. The MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) for all humans is named Eve. Because that's what scientists named her, Mitochondrial Eve.... It's unlikely she had a name when alive though because it's unlikely they had a language at that time. Mitochondrial Eve lived between 140 and 200,000 years ago. Our most recent common male ancestor is known as Y chromosomal Adam. It's harder to trace back that male lineage because the Y chorosome only gets passed on to male offspring. But he is believed to have lived between about 120 and 300,000 years ago. What's funny, because you don't appear to understand, is that these two ancestors of ours didn't even know each other, or live at the same time. In fact, if Y Chromosomal Adam is as old as some think then he wouldn't even have been a homo sapien... Also it's interesting to those of us who actually understand it, but these are just the most recent ancestors that we all share. We would also have ancestors who lived at the same time, that we just don't share with everyone else. It's not like there was *ever* just one male and one female on Earth. We know that never happened. Our species slowly emerged over time after evolving from other species.



Oh maybe you are getting it. Yes, we DO share a distant relative with cabbage. Do you still not get it? *A-L-L* life on Earth shares a common ancestor. This is proven fact. You're welcome to continue believing in nonsense if you wish. But that doesn't change the real world you know.



@ Song: The information you post is based solely on a computer program..... The older dates are based on actual DNA analysis. You need to learn what counts as "science". A simple computer simulation not backed up by any experimentation at all doesn't meet the definition.



Concentrate and read? Sounds like you need to follow your own advice. As many have stated yes we do have common ancestors. No, they didn't know each other. And no they were not the only people alive at the time. And no there was never at any point just ONE human or one pair of humans that were alive and all people are descended from them. No, that never happened. Is that simple enough for you?
2013-09-24 06:49:15 UTC
Yes, all 7 billion humans have a common ancestor. The fact that humans and other apes have a common ancestor makes humans a type of ape. "Common ancestor" refers to a species by the way, not an individual living thing. We're all descendants of the same species, we didn't all come from one single primate, or pair of primates.



There are bound to be some scientists who assert that creationism is credible. The fact that the other 99% of scientists agree that it is nonsense, over-shadows whatever examples you give of scientists who support creationist claims.



Again, "common ancestors" does not refer to a pair of individuals, it refers to an entire species from which we've descended.



All life on earth shares the same origin (except for some viruses and bacteria I think), so yes we are technically related to cabbages. We and cabbages are both earthlings.
2013-09-24 06:36:30 UTC
"So humans and apes have a common ancestor according to evolutionists...?"



According to countless evidences from DNA sequencing, which is the most powerful evidence imaginable, we share an ancient ape ancestor with chimpanzee apes. This ancestor lived about six million years ago.



Even more interesting: chimpanzees are still apes and people are still apes.



Your Magic Jeebus Man is a dead ape which is a scientific fact. Imagine the religious implications.



You of course are not looking for an answer. You're only interested in wasting people's time. You don't want to learn anything. You have no moral values so you ask your stupid questions anyway.
?
2013-09-24 06:35:15 UTC
Yes, obviously.

Based on the current diversity of human genes, it was somewhere in the range of 100,000 - 300,000 years ago.





Edit: regarding Adam, Eve, Noah, and cabbages:



Our Y-chromosomes probably converge more recently than our mitochondria, because it was far more common for a man to have children with many women than for a woman to have children with many men.



Let's call this most recent common ancestor Noah. Noah was not the first human; he may have been very recent compared to human divergence from apes. Noah's mother is necessarily also our common ancestor, as is her father, and so on. Noah and his wives and all other humans living at that time (whose male lines have died out) were descended from some common ancestor - let's call that one Seth.

All of the apes living today had a common ancestor. Let's call him Cain. Seth and Cain also had a common ancestor.



And let's call the cabbage ancestor Polonius (I can't think of a Biblical cabbage). You have to go really, really far back to find Seth and Polonius's common ancestor, past y-chromosomes, past mitochondria, back billions of years to a single-celled organism floating in the ocean. At this point it feel weird to call this an "ancestor." It probably didn't reproduce sexually. The billions of years of mutations have made our DNA very different from its DNA. But it did exist, the cell that provided the template for all modern eukaryotes.
Mike S
2013-09-24 06:37:37 UTC
Actually, if your sticking with the bible, then wouldn't it be Noah, his sons, and their wives?





Your also assuming, that some trace of even earlier humans would be found, if they didn't live in groups, but rather lived solo, much like bears live. We always assume humans have always been sociable like monkeys.







@jea, even further than DNA, we where all created at the same point of time as the universe. Thus, everything that can be created, has already been created. It can only combine in different ways to make different things. It is weird to think that one day at one point in time, the very atoms that make me, were part of a star, or another universe.
?
2013-09-24 06:32:05 UTC
Yup, and about 8% of people living in the area of the mongol empire have a common ancestor.



Khan!!



Go back further, and we're all related. Not as closely related as Adam and Eve's grandchildren mind you. (unless you're in Alabama)



* the computer models show 5000 - 10,000 years old? Time to get a new PC... The Pengtoushan culture of ancient china was a thriving culture 10,000 years ago...
?
2013-09-24 06:36:36 UTC
And the three wise men rode in on a brontosaurus!!!



Apes have 24 pairs of chromosomes humans have 23 pairs. To prove the link they had to prove what happened to the extra pair. What they found was an elongated pair of chromosomes which was two pairs fused together end to end. Mystery solved.



It's called evidence, don't be jealous.
2013-09-24 06:33:01 UTC
At one point, humans were on the brink of extinction so they believe. Makes finding the bones a bit of a challenge in a tiny continent like Africa.
2013-09-24 06:32:54 UTC
We are all connected by DNA.

You even share (therefore are related to) DNA with a cabbage!

How does that little FACT sit with your preacher? What is his excuse for his cabbage ancestor?

You folks go deeper into denial every day.
2013-09-24 06:40:05 UTC
Lol, you want to equate our common ancestor with Adam and Eve...well it is possible if you think that bible wrote about these:



http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/hypothetical-placental-ancestor.jpg
?
2013-09-24 06:34:09 UTC
All life has a common ancestor. approximately 3 billion years ago we all came from a single celled life form.
planner
2013-09-24 06:34:54 UTC
humans and apes have a common ancestor according to the bible as well. since God destroyed everyone on earth in the flood except for the family of noah, who was the great, great, great.....however many greats...grandson of adam, we are all then related to adam.



and in genesis chapter two where we read in verse 7 about God creating adam, it says he made him out of the dust of the earth. then a little later, it says that God created the animals out out of the same dust of the earth...in genesis 2:19, so that makes man and animal related and linked by dna both by the fact that we had the same Creator and by the fact that our Creator God used the same dirt to make both adam and the animals, including apes.



our common ancestory with apes is dirt.
Chris
2013-09-24 06:30:32 UTC
Supposedly, yes. Called Mitochondrial Eve, she lived about 200,000 years ago. Can't claim to have known her personally...
fruitsalad
2013-09-24 06:32:13 UTC
Yes. Biological Eve, and biological Adam are common ancestors to us all (note they may not have lived at the same time).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
pmt853
2013-09-24 06:44:39 UTC
Yes.
?
2013-09-24 06:34:35 UTC
according to evolution . . . Yes. According to the Abrahamic faiths . . . Yes.
?
2013-09-24 06:29:12 UTC
All life has a common ancestor, if you go back far enough
2013-09-24 06:34:51 UTC
Not 'according to evolutionists' - it's according to the evidence.



The 'bible' doesn't factor into it.
2013-09-24 06:30:40 UTC
We are mammals.

We are primates.

We are apes.

But, we're the smart apes.
Rockin' Robin
2013-09-24 06:29:13 UTC
Humans "are" apes...so...yes & yes.


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