Question:
Once saved always saved.?
xingboy2
2006-07-15 19:23:37 UTC
I do understand that part what once saved always saved mean. But how I can be saved? What I have to do to be saved once? And if anyone of you know script in bible book talk about once saved always saved please tell me what script in bible book. Thank you.
32 answers:
Trice W
2006-07-15 19:28:08 UTC
if you want to be saved look in Romans 10: 9 and 10 u must belive that god raised jesus from the dead and so on read the scripture im happy you want to know
Dead Man Walking
2006-07-15 19:39:53 UTC
Once saved Always is very miss leading. First off you need to know something about the faith before you can even understand this. Many Christians think that saying a little pray will save them. Sorry but that is not the reality of it. See being save is only the first step in the binging of a new life. Everything changes, When you claim the faith then you need to learn the faith, and live the faith. If is what make you real. Many think that once they say the pray that's it. They never change their ways, they live as the did before and they play religion. That is not being saved that is living a lie.



If you are true about the faith, Learn it, Live it, Love it. The more you learn the more you will understand.
Bridget
2006-07-15 19:56:46 UTC
When I read your question I thought that I had a simple answer... I thought that according to the Bible that accepting Jesus as one's personal savior would make you saved. But I looked into it. Read Mark 10: 17-22 or Matthew 19:16-22. Even though I believe in a lot of what Christianity suggests, the Bible can be somewhat contradictory. Just figure out what you believe and live they way that you think is "right". You can search the Bible in a lot of different versions on online, like www.biblegateway.com...
impossble_dream
2006-07-15 19:30:47 UTC
The Bible doesnt say "once saved always saved"... thats a doctrine some Baptists made up... What you need to do to be saved is to repent of your sins believe in your heart Jesus is Lord and died for those sins. Now, if you sin again it doesnt mean you arent saved anymore but you do have to stay in the Lord... if you walk away from Him according to 2 Peter 2:20-22, you're worse off than before you were saved.
romantic_angel_agent
2006-07-15 19:44:24 UTC
Ok. The Bible clearly states that the only way to the Father is through Jesus, accepting Him in your heart



.Ac 4:12 -

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."



Heb 9:28 -

so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.



I do believe that if we receive Jesus in our hearts, we are saved from Hell. However, I also believe that once we truly ask Jesus in our hearts with true repentance, then we are saved forever. If we ask Jesus in our hearts just to escape Hell but are not truly repentant in our hearts, then it was a lie and we will go to Hell. It does not say in the Bible, once saved always saved. That is an interpretation from man. There is no sin greater than another (murder is just as bad as lying). When we are truly repentant in our hearts and ask God to forgive us, then we can enter into His grace and mercy. The Bible does not say that we can lose our salvation once we accept it. It does say that we are to live a repentant lifestyle. In other words, live for Jesus and witness to others. Once we ask Jesus in our hearts and really mean it, then we will want to live for Him. That way we will not sin willingly and therefore escape the judgement of wrath from God. God looks at the heart and that is how we are judged. I hope that this sheds some light for you.
c g
2006-07-15 19:35:01 UTC
Dosent say it in the bible. Noone knows if they are saved or not, churches have people convinced of this fact, but it is not easy for a person who actually reads the bible on their own to be twisted as far as to believe what men have came up with on their own to try to sway ones to go to their church. You have to work at being saved on a everyday basis just like you have to go to work everyday if you want to be sure there will be food on the table. If all you had to do is go get saved in a church and youd always be saved without any effort then their would be no reason to pray , ask for forgiveness, or study his word. It would be easy. It is not that easy and for people that believe so it is because they are too lazy to believe that it is going to take alot of work, and alot of effort on their part.
doggybag300
2006-07-15 20:19:59 UTC
Once you accept God and He pours his Holy Spirit out on you, Heb:6,4-6,says if you go back into the world,there is no more forgiveness for you. I did that-and went back out into the world for a few years. I thought that I would just live by the Golden Rule and take my chances. I was pretty disgusted about how things were going for me back then.

Eventually I felt God was calling me back in,and I repented and came back to God. Since then I've grown in faith,I had prayers answered,have been faith healed, and have been in situations where I 'knew that God was using me to do his work. That part in Hebrews that says no repentance is accepted after one walks away... Well, all I can figure is that no repentance is accepted after one departs this life. I've always considered myself kinda like the prodigal son.

That's my answer to your question,my friend. With all these different answers,I hope you're not more confused than ever.
1saintofGod
2006-07-15 19:27:13 UTC
Once saved always saved is conditional. We are to remain in the vine to stay saved.



NOW to your question.



First you have to realize that you are a hell bound sinner in need of a saviour, who is Jesus Christ.



AND



that he paid the price for the sin(s) of mankind.



You have to believe that he can save your soul.

You must ask God to forgive you of your sins,



WITH,



the intent of living as God would have you to live.



God will save you.



Read the book of St. John but beginning with the first 3 chapters.



A person who gets saved receives the Holy Spirit into them to enable them to live free from sin.



This is the quickest I can tell you off hand.
fingerpicknboys
2006-07-15 19:35:11 UTC
Jesus Himself said that "He who has endured to the end will be saved." So, you are not saved until you make it to the end of your life being faithful to God and to His Son Jesus Christ.



There is NOT any Scripture in the Bible that says you will always be saved because Jesus said the opposite in Matthew 24:13.
?
2006-07-15 21:10:09 UTC
There is no concept called once saved always saved in the bible. Salvation is an on going process and must be worked on minute by minute. Yes we are saved by grace but one must continue in totally obedience to God. One must accept that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and that we must repent and seek forgiveness and then turn from sin. Only Jesus is perfect, and we are sinners, who by accepting God His grace and mercy is given to us.
anonymous
2006-07-15 19:29:50 UTC
No once your saved your not always saved. You must continue on the path of righteousness and salvation. Two examples of ones abandoning their faith would be 1) Satan, he wasn't always the devil, he was once an arch angel who resided in heaven before being cast out. 2) Judas, was once a trusted disciple of Jesus prior to betraying him. Salvation will only last as long as you hold fast to it. However the world will temp you to obtain your faith and the path to righteousness.
His eyes are like flames
2006-07-15 19:41:05 UTC
ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED IS NOT IN YOUR BIBLE IT IS A FALSE TEACHING A TRADITION OF MEN, TO BE SAVED YOU MUST REPENT OF YOUR SINS, THEN BE BAPTIZED AND THE LAYING ON OF HANDS TO RECEIVE GODS SPIRIT, THEN YOU MUST CONTINUE IN GODS WORD UNTIL DEATH OR WHEN JESUS RETURNS TO THIS EARTH. THERE ARE LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF A PERSON WITH SALVATION THEN LOSING IT. JUDAS, JESUS'S DECIPLE IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF HAVING SALVATION THEN ALLOWING SATAN TO ENTER INTO HIS HEART, THEREFOR HE LOST HIS SALVATION. DO NOT BE DECEIVED BY THE TRADITIONS OF MEN.

Mr 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

Mr 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Mr 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Matthew C
2006-07-15 19:35:06 UTC
The phrase would suggest that once someone has been "saved", that nothing can keep you from heaven. HOWEVER, there is NO scripture to enforce that belief because then that would mean that you could do whatever you want and in that, baptism would be nothing greater than having ones head dipped in water.
pappa_15
2006-07-15 19:33:59 UTC
Once you call on the name of Jesus and get saved there is nothing that can seperate you from the love of God. Look at Romans 8:38-39.
blessedfriend2000
2006-07-15 20:04:56 UTC
John 3:16-19

16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

NIV



Rom 3:21-24



21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

NIV

Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

NIV



Prov 3:5-6



5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding;

6 in all your ways acknowledge him,

and he will make your paths straight.

NIV
anonymous
2006-07-15 19:33:27 UTC
That is a false message preached by the Baptists. Justification grants Salvation but faith cannot be justified until you die, only then is perseverance in Christ shown. The parable of the Sower explains this best, the seed that falls on rocky ground perishes. Those who are the rocky ground lose their faith and are condemned.
anonymous
2006-07-15 19:32:01 UTC
There is no such thing as "once saved, always saved" because we are human beings, capable of free will choices and sin and if we sin, we lose God's Divine life within us and need to repent, and express heartfelt sorrow, and ask for forgiveness to restore God's life within ourselves.
Baron Hausenpheffer
2006-07-15 19:39:24 UTC
It's a Baptist doctrine that says once you accept Jesus into your heart once, it doesn't matter what happens (or what you come to believe) later on. I personally think that is pure bull, and it is my biggest theological difference with that church. Christ and all of his disciples made painfully clear what would happen to people who turn from the true faith or attempt to turn others from it. (They'll need an air conditioner where they're going.)



I don't know where the verse they get that from is, but it goes something like "God will not allow any of his people to be taken from Him" or something to that effect. That's taking quite a bit of artistic license with that verse, if you ask me, but whatever...
Tabby
2006-07-15 19:34:48 UTC
I don't believe once saved always saved. To get saved for the first time i believe that you have to believe in your heart that Jesus died for our sins and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ Is Lord. Salvation is in your heart just pray to him to forgive you of your sins and tell him that you want him to be your Lord in your life. That you want him to fill your heart with joy and love and you want to live your life acceptable in his sight. You can use those words but just pray from your heart. After you get pray i encourage you to find a local church where you can be encouraged in your new walk with God. I hope this helps you...i pray God bless you richly and i will keep you in my prayers
anonymous
2006-07-15 19:32:12 UTC
1 John 5:13

Ephesians 4:30

Ephesians 1:13-14
Iwanna know
2006-07-15 19:50:36 UTC
Once you hear the latch click on the pearly gates, then your saved. At this time only can you apply ,the once saved always saved rule.
Martin S
2006-07-15 19:38:37 UTC
Click on this link to find out how to be saved.



http://contenderministries.org/romanroad.php



As to the OSAS teaching I think that the majority of Scripture supports that doctrine but I don't take a stand on it one way or the other because it's not essential to my faith. Instead I take heed to the exhortation given in this passage.



2 Peter 1: 5For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. 8For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.



10Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, 11and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.



When people ask my Pastor about OSAS he says "I'm not planning on losing my salvation, are you?" :o)
anonymous
2006-07-15 19:39:27 UTC
ive found something that contradicts what ur saying. hebrews 6:6 "If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." Which means translated into "bible in basic english" ... "And then let themselves be turned away, it is not possible for their hearts to be made new a second time; because they themselves put the Son of God on the cross again, openly shaming him."



which in my translation means, if you ask forgiveness and are forgiven and wonder away from God, to ask forgiveness again is like putting Him back on the cross.
Davie
2006-07-15 19:29:08 UTC
If I follow you, you believe that if you are saved and then go out and murder someone, you will still be saved because once saved means always? Tain't logical.
sanangel
2006-07-15 20:14:05 UTC
one thing you need to do is to believe in the lord... john 3 16 says whosever believeth in me shall have everlasting life..i know the scripture you are talking about... but i believe that we can backslide and that we need to rededicate our lives to god.. i know when i feel real guilty of my sins and need a good talk with the lord , i ask him to forgive me... i was raised by a very faithful baptist dad and he really was a wonderful , truly god believing man.. but i have went against the way; i was brought up... but i am now trying to live the life as god wants me to live...we all have sinned and come short of the glory of god, but i think we should turn away from the sinful things of this world and try to live for jesus....i acts 16:30 tells us what we must do to be saved... i have tried to find the scripture in the bible that does say once saved always saved but right now i can not find it... but i know we are saved by the grace of god... you need to seek the lord, start reading the bible and the more you read and cross read the scriptures for you can understand more...pray to god as you are talking to him and tell him that you want him to be the ruler of your life... and try and live the way god wants us to live.. i try to follow the 10 commandments.. it is not always easy to live for the lord but the benefits of knowing god personally as your lord and savior is worth more than all the rubies and gold here on earth...store up your treasures in heaven....we will all be held accountable for our deeds and actions here on earth.. actually ever word that proceeded out of our mouth...but god is just to forgive and he does not want any of us to perish.. he came in love to save the world...i hope i have helped you some.. feel free to email me about anything and i will try to help you.. i wish you knew a minister where you live that you could talk to...you must believe that god sent his son to die for our sins...i have been raised knowing god and i think that knowing sin and going ahead and doing it is wrong... i know god still lives in my heart and my soul... and i know i am a child of god... i have a very guilty consious when i do wrong...but if you seek the lord you will surely find him...and i thank you for the question, and i hope i have helped you....
n9wff
2006-07-15 19:45:50 UTC
Isaiah 59:2 Sin separates you from God.

One is all it takes. If you died in this sin, it separates you from God.

Thus, once saved, always saved is false. You could lose your "ticket" my one bad decision.
beek
2006-07-15 19:32:26 UTC
Jesus says to repent and believe. So it is looking to Him for forgiveness and following Him in obedience and giving up the ways of selfishness and sin.
lifeizgr8
2006-07-15 21:18:58 UTC
Once your saved you cant be "unsaved" for every bad thing you do. Jesus doesn't use whiteout!!!!
anonymous
2006-07-15 20:21:57 UTC
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!you have to work your salvation......You must continue on the path of righteousness and salvation.
anonymous
2006-07-15 19:27:09 UTC
No idea either
anonymous
2006-07-15 19:25:29 UTC
i have a no idea
smashingdon
2006-07-15 20:11:16 UTC
YES, ONCE SAVED... ALWAYS SAVED IS GOD'S PROMISE and that is the promise which keeps in the faith and trusting only in the Lord and not in my own ability..



I am quoting bible references. However the anomaly which is explained above happens when people who are not saved claim that they are saved and from their lifestyle we start wondering how such a man can go to heaven by living a life which is not worthy of God, the answer is that such a man was not saved at all. We don't know who is truly saved, only God knows the names of his children.. and those whom he brings to him.. he will in no wise cast out. God did not bring us to him because of any of our merits, did he? "And while we were yet christians Christ died for us" so God is the one who brought us to him.. and so when we were sinners and unmeritful we were brought to him.. and so after that when we are still unmeritful God will cast us out? If we never came to God because of our merit, is he going to cast us out again for our being meritless? The answer is no.. and so once those who have been brought to Christ by God, God will keep them till the end. God is the one who works out our salvation and keeps us in the faith. we are not the ones who keep our own salvation.. and hence since God is the one who keeps us we can't fall away from grace.. its true that christians can fall, but they can't fall away.. and now for the bible quotes..



“My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one." [John 10:27-30]



this verse explains a lot.. who are the sheep? those who follow Jesus? A man who lives an ungodly life and continues in sin is not Jesus's sheep because he is not following Jesus. He is not heeding Jesus' voice and following him. And hence he is not among the flock. but what will happen to the sheep whom God has made his own (means the ones who are truly saved) Now, you all know what “eternal” means, however, no one can form an idea of eternity which can fully grasp its endless duration. we know that it has no end, and therefore cannot ever cease to be. If anybody said that he had eternal life and lost it, he would be flatly contradicting himself. It could not be eternal, or else he would still have it. If it is eternal, it is eternal, and there is no end to it; and thus there is an end of further argument about it. If the life that Christ gives us, when we are born again, can die, then it is not “eternal” life, or else words have ceased to have any meaning at all. In its nature, as being the work of the Holy Spirit, and emanating from God, the life bestowed in regeneration is an everlasting one. Hasn’t the Holy Spirit described us as “being born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.”? The life of God imparted by the Holy Spirit must live forever. And just as the gift is continuous, and it is always being given, and as it is in itself eternal life, therefore it must always exist.



-“And they shall never perish.” They have a tendency to spiritual sickness, but their Shepherd will minister to them so that they shall never perish. They are sheep, and have a tendency to wander; but their Shepherd shall keep them so that they shall never perish. Time tries them, and they grow old, and the novelty of religion wears off; but they shall never perish. Think what you will of them, “they shall never perish,” for so the promise stands.



The first statement, “I give them eternal life,” is as broad as it can be, and this is broader still-“they shall never perish.” The rule has absolutely no exception. All of the Lord’s sheep shall be preserved. Let them live to be as old as Methuselah; they shall never perish, whatever temptation may assail them. They may be tried, and troubled, and broken down, so that they may be hardly able to live; but they shall never perish. “Never” is a long day; but it is not longer than grace will last. Blessed be God, this grand promise stands firm-“They shall never perish.”



there is more to the verse.. “No one can snatch them out of my hand.” Many will tug at them, but none shall snatch them away. The devil will give many a horrible tug and pull, to get them away; but he shall never take them out of the great Shepherd’s hand. Their old friends, and the memory of their old sins will come, and tug at them very hard, and very cunningly; but the Savior says, “No one can snatch them out of my hand.”



So, first, here is their security: they are in his hand; that is, in his possession, and he clutches them, as a man holds something in his hand, and says, “It is mine.” Neither shall anyone take them away from being under his protection. Never shall they be snatched away from Christ. When he says this, he pledges his honor to preserve them, for if one could be snatched out of his hand, then the devils in hell would rejoice, and say, “He could not keep them. He said that he would, but he could not. We have managed to snatch this one, or that one, out of the pierced hand of their Redeemer.” But such a horrible exultation shall never be heard throughout the ages of eternity. “They shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.”



“If I believed that doctrine, I would live as I pleased,” says one. Then you are not one of his sheep, for his sheep love holiness, and will not love iniquity. The change brought about by the new birth is such that a man will not return to his old ways of sin and folly. This is the doctrine; and how can you make it to be an indulgence to sin? True saints never turn the grace of God into an excuse to ignore the very commands of God, but the very mention of eternal love leads them to careful obedience.



and finally..

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Rom 8:38, 39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.



so now it is upto you to decide.. are you one of the Lord's sheep? Do you have the characteristics of his sheep? Judge yourself and repent of your sins and if you truly repent then the Lord will add you into his flock and so cry out to the Lord for mercy and do not cease till he has mercy.. and he will definitely hear your prayers.. so trust in the Lord's promise that.. whosoever comes truly to him.. he will in no wise cast out.. so pray with an earnest heart and confess your sins to God and he is faithful enough to forgive you of your sins and cleanse you from your iniquities.


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