Does God exist or not?

Question

Give me some sort of logical response here. I don't wanna hear "I just have faith" or snooty comments from the non-believers. Lay out in simple terms for God's existence.

Answer 1

I have some "non-Biblical" arguments for the existence of God...



First, there is the ontological argument. The most popular form of the ontological argument basically uses the concept of God to prove God’s existence. It begins with the definition of God as “that than which no greater can be conceived.” It is then argued that to exist is greater than to not exist, and therefore the greatest conceivable being must exist. If God did not exist then God would not be the greatest conceivable being - but that would contradict God's very definition.



Second is the teleological argument. The teleological argument is that since the universe displays such an amazing design, there must have been a Divine designer. For example, if earth were even a few hundred miles closer or further away from the sun, it would not be capable of supporting much of the life it currently does. If the elements in our atmosphere were even a few percentage points different, every living thing on earth would die. The odds of a single protein molecule forming by chance is 1 in 10243 (that is a 10 followed by 243 0’s). A single cell is comprised of millions of protein molecules.



A third logical argument for God’s existence is called the cosmological argument. Every effect must have a cause. This universe and everything in it is an effect. There must be something that caused everything to come into existence. Ultimately, there must be something “un-caused” in order to cause everything else to come into existence. That “un-caused” something is God.



If we do exist, there are only two possible explanations as to how our existence came to be. Either we had a beginning or we did not have a beginning. The Bible says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1 :1). Most atheists maintain that there was no beginning. The idea is that matter has always existed in the form of either matter or energy; and all that has happened is that matter has been changed from form to form, but it has always been. The Humanist Manifesto says, "Matter is self-existing and not created," and that is a concise statement of the atheist's belief.



The way we decide whether the atheist is correct or not is to see what science has discovered about this question. All of these galaxies are moving relative to each other. Their movement has a very distinct pattern which causes the distance between the galaxies to get greater with every passing day. Now let us suppose that we made time run backwards! If we are located at a certain distance today, then yesterday we were closer together. The day before that, we were still closer. Ultimately, where must all the galaxies have been? At a point! At the beginning! At what scientists call a singularity! In 1999, it was discovered that the galaxies are accelerating in their expansion. Any notion that we live in an oscillating or pulsating universe has been dispelled by this discovery. The universe is not slowing down, but speeding up in its motion.



Also, consider the energy sources that fuel the cosmos. You see our sun, Like all stars, the sun generates its energy by a nuclear process known as thermonuclear fusion. Every second that passes, the sun compresses 564 million tons of hydrogen into 560 million tons of helium with 4 million tons of matter released as energy. In spite of that tremendous consumption of fuel, the sun has only used up 2% of the hydrogen it had the day it came into existence. This incredible furnace is not a process confined to the sun. Every star in the sky generates its energy in the same way. Throughout the cosmos there are 25 quintillion stars, each converting hydrogen into helium, thereby reducing the total amount of hydrogen in the cosmos. Just think about it! If everywhere in the cosmos hydrogen is being consumed and if the process has been going on forever, how much hydrogen should be left?



Suppose I attempt to drive my automobile without putting any more gas (fuel) into it. As I drive and drive, what is eventually going to happen? I am going to run out of gas! If the cosmos has been here forever, we would have run out of hydrogen long ago! The fact is, however, that the sun still has 98% of its original hydrogen. The fact is that hydrogen is the most abundant material in the universe! Everywhere we look in space we can see the hydrogen 21-cm line in the spectrum--a piece of light only given off by hydrogen. This could not be unless we had a beginning!



A fourth argument is known as the moral argument. Every culture throughout history has had some form of law. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong. Murder, lying, stealing, and immorality are almost universally rejected. Where did this sense of right and wrong come from if not from a holy God?



Allow me one last argument for God’s existence. How do I know God exists? I know God exists because I speak to Him every day. I do not audibly hear Him speaking back to me, but I sense His presence, I feel His leading, I know His love, I desire His grace. Things have occurred in my life that have no other possible explanation other than God. God has so miraculously saved me and changed my life that I cannot help but to acknowledge and praise His existence. None of these arguments in and of themselves can persuade anyone who refuses to acknowledge what is so plainly clear. In the end, God’s existence must be accepted by faith (Hebrews 11:6). Faith in God is not a blind leap into the dark, it is safe step into a well-lit room where 90% of people are already standing.



Hope this helps.



Elder Greg

(((SFECU)))

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Answer 2

I believe God exists as long as nobody tries to define to me what "God" is. Jehovah? No, such a critter, if it did exist, is a malevolent, evil monster. Such a thing could not be perfect, and therefore would thwart even the most baseline human definition of god. Ra, the sun god? Hmmm, well, that's a little more problematic. Our sun is the giver of our life, we could not exist without it. There are over 100 billion suns in our galaxy alone and we are discovering hundreds of planets in orbit aournd relatively nearby suns, so they do seem to have a purpose. And the act of making new stars through the tidal forces of galactic collisions also seems an amazing coincidence if there was no driving force behind such phenomena. Sometimes I like to think as God residing in the quantum world in that on that level it does appear that all is still connected and in one place and time becomes foamy. Or the discovery of "dark matter" and "dark energy," nobdoy knows what it is yet it holds the universe together, so to speak. In all this I see no evidence that we are made in "His" image. I can't help but feel there is a drive, a purpose, a force that strives towards life and self-awarness over the course of billions upon billions of years. The fact that we exist -- indeed, the fact that there is something instead of nothing, when confronted with the question "why is this so?" is the ultimate question. We do not get an answer, just silence. We try to fill this silence with (extremely lame) theological explanations. It's like turning on the car radio when you're on a long drive -- even listening to commercials is better than silence. We are lonely, we seek the company of a silent, indifferent cosmos. Call that God if you like. The universe exists, I can see it, feel it, hear it, taste it, and smell it.

Answer 3

What is God to you? Abstract science? Or abstract bielf in an entity?



To me the fact of thinking about where everything came from, and what happens to our minds when we die is abstract already, then you get science which has provided electricity and other great things proving things, giving you abstract theory's on how it happen



And there is just a belief that people belief for no other reasons but "Faith" Or some sort ofexperiencee that happen to them, and they don't have theory'ss" like science they have truths



Here is where you have a logical choice: Science, which has done A lot and choosing there theory's which don't claim to be true, just a theory OR faith which has no theory but truths?





My choice is science and hope yours is, god may be real, but let alone than saying maybe, I am not going tbelieveve in anspecificic God





The only exception is when people have devine experences, than it is difference

Answer 4

My personal belief is that he does NOT exist because there has been no evidence what so ever of his existance in this planet. The Big Bang was created by a Super Nova a Star (like our sun but 8 billion times larger) which exploded because of the increase of energy. Thus creating a new Star which is our Sun. Around the sun clusters of rocks and gas joined together in order to form planets and orbits that were attracted to the imense gravitational pull of the Sun. And that is how the Earth was created in my opinion. Humans were created through Evolution a Fish becomes an anphibion and anphibion becomes a reptile a reptile into a bird a bird into mammal and humans. Humans are made of Amino acid we have 100% of it and u can fin amino acid even in the smallest particles of living things in the ocean i.e planktons who were the First living creatures in the earth

Answer 5

As I understand god defined, there is no evidence to support the definition. The religions that I am familiar with have an entity interacting with humans, the world, and the universe and yet nothing supernatural can be substantiated. Although this can not prove that a god does not exist, it certainly sheds a lot of doubt on religions.



If religion cannot be trusted to portray god, why is it necessary for me to believe in a god at all?

Answer 6

Contemplatives who describe having had an experience of "God" typically are having experiences that are more basic than words and the occurrence of thoughts ... so any descriptions they offer of that experience are necessarily going to have to be metaphoric.



Those experiences are typically the most sober, simple, and profound of their lives, and the persons who have them often offer practical techniques (contemplative prayer/ meditation) for how others can experience and know what they know first hand.



That has always seemed to me the most "logical" approach to the question of what "God exists" means -- to go and look.



I'm a Buddhist, but the sorts of experiences I've had with intensive Buddhist meditative practices give me the sense that what Christian contemplatives mean by an experience of "God" is honest and true ... but, again, it's an experience that is too simply fundamental for discursive words.



If you take religious language literally, you are not taking it seriously enough.

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Answer 7

There is no empirical evidence to suggest such an entity exists, just as there is no evidence to suggest Zeus, Thor, or Lord Brahma exists. All Christians have are vague arguments like "the universe is proof" or "life is too complex to not be created". The belief in god is nothing more than wishful thinking.



"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god then you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

~Stephen Roberts

Answer 8

I don't think there is one. If there was, why do we have things like cancer, which happens to good people. Why would there be war? If there was a god, would he not be able to guide every one to righteousness? Also, the bible wouldn't be contradictory. Read the old testament, then the new. they conflict the image of god. In the old testament, he is a spiteful, angry god. How could he love us all if he was like that? just read a lot of religious texts and you'll see extreme contradiction.

Answer 9

If all the trees were turned into pens and all the water on the face of the earth was made into ink. There still wouldn't be enough writings to convince non-believer's that a Supreme Source (whom some call it: God) exist.

Answer 10

This is people's flaw when it comes to religion. You can't mix faith and proof. The whole point of a religion is that you have FAITH that it is real. No one on Earth knows 100% for sure that God is real, no one knows 100% for sure that God isn't real. Just live life as good as you can and find out when you die ;)

Answer 11

You are certainly not going to get any logical responses from believers. Take for instance that IRev. Albert guy. All his listed quotes were taken out of context and even if were meant as they are quoted they do not point to the judeo-christian view of a god who wrote a bible and had a son blah blah blah. There simply is no credible evidence for the existence of god(s). If you propose something without any evidence, you can dismiss it without evidence. I highly recommend you watch this series of youtube videos:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS5vid4GkEY&feature=PlayList&p=AC3481305829426D&index=0

Answer 12

First of all, people need to abandon their preconceived notions of God as an old grey-bearded man. People need to give up the ideas that God is completely defined in literature. People may even need to opt for abandoning the word "God."



There is life. There is being. There is consciousness. These three occupy all space and cannot die.



Man is endowed with a means of connecting to this source. Actually, he already is connected to it.



You may want to call that God. You may not. It is your choice.

Answer 13

You really expect this question to be answered?

There is no proof for the existence of any god.

There is no proof against the existence of any god.



It all comes down to personal belief. I, personally, do not believe the concept of god is realistic. It's full of mythology and fable, and I do not accept myths as real.

Answer 14

YES.





But His Existence cannot not be definitively proved or disproved because there remains no way to positively test either way by our current methods, mostly because we do not know what He is made of.



xoxo ♥



*edit* What? Am I wrong? Can we carbon date G-D?

Does He emit Gamma, UV or X-Rays? What about radio frequencies? Is He matter? Anti-matter? Or Both? Overall Creation iteself favours Intelligent Design ... BUT not in the way in which it is presented by Fundies. *sighs*

Answer 15

Nope.



There was this one quote that explains what I feel pretty well

one second....



That was more than a second but I found it...



Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

- Epicurus

Answer 16

The most complete answer I can give is that there is no evidence for the existence of any gods.

Answer 17

We have as much reason to believe God exists as we do unicorns exist.



Does that mean we should believe in unicrns or God? When someone asks you if you believe in unicorns, should you say "I don't know?"



Of course not. God does not exist, until it is shown otherwise.

Answer 18

Everything we have around us thanks God plus deep down inside u know he's real and u would not ask or use his name in vain if u really say he don't exist and the bible says on John 20:29 Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed."

Answer 19

There is no proof. Also if he does exist he let millions of people die at the hands of Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot

Answer 20

In order to understand the proof for God's existence, you will need the use of both your right and left brain. Logic is left brain, right brain is abstract, nonlinear, creative. God is as much in the realm of imagination as in the realm of logic and mathematics. The proof you seek is going to be revealed to you, but the question is, will you understand it, or will you limit your understanding by limiting God in your own imagination. The first thing I would suggest in coming closer to the truth is to truly be open minded and start with the idea that With God, All Thinks are Possible. Do not place any limitation on how such proof could manifest. How badly do you really want to know the truth. God's existence is incomprehensibly vast. Forming a conscious relationship with that vastness is possible, but I might also suggest that your investigation might be benefited by looking as much for proof of the existence of the soul. When you find the soul you will find God, or at least a window into the reality of God. God is a hologram, of which the soul is a part. You are an observer inside the field of light, and the Whole Light Field that contains the hologram of the universe could not exist without observers present. Nothing exists without observers, and this is part of the nature of the soul. Souls are observers. In order to create a universe this large with this much detail, the consciousness of the One had to become a multiplicity, dividing the focus of attention into ever smaller parts, with each grouping of observers being guided by those of a higher vibration, as the container for the Whole Light Field expanded until the field grew so large, relative to the tiniest of observers that the field developed certain characteristics that we observe at this level of reality, like time and space. I could explain to you pages and pages of material about how this works, the physics of it, the spiritual nature of energy and how we cocreate with it in ways that most people don't see, but what I can tell you that might help you in your own process of discovery is that all of the answers you seek are within you. It is just a matter of learning to go within. To do this you need to develop better control of your brainfield. Be able to balance and synchronize your brain hemispheres, produce an alpha state. Most people spend too much time in beta, and don't use alpha productively, zoning out on TV instead. Everything you need to know about God and your direct relationship to God is written in the language of your body, both the symbolic form of the body and your DNA, which is not just atomic, but has multidimensional levels that you are not aware of yet. You see, YOU ARE THE PROOF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. The question is, how can someone like me who sees it so clearly support you to see what is already right in front of you. Once you understand what energy really is, you can't not see GOD in everything. GOD is in the Holographic WHOLE. What is missing from your awareness is wholeness, awareness of the whole, and balancing the brainfield is a key to aligning your consciousness with the patterns of wholeness that our brains were designed to be able to process. Let me suggest that you have the ability to become conscious of your DNA, and that this would allow you to explore levels of human memory that you have not yet fully tapped into yet, and that the process of answering this question of yours will happen over time. The answer is too big and too multifaceted for this form of language. But you can comprehend it. It will come to you through the proper combination of logic and intuition. So don't rule out the spiritual experience. Most people don't know how to express spirituality in terms of logic, that does not mean that you can't. Also, I can tell you that GOD listens and that your soul is vaster than just who you are in this life. When you pray and ask questions of God and the soul, instead of asking human beings, you will create an opening in your brainfield for light to flow in. This is key. You can learn how to communicate with a higher reality through prayer. Perhaps you should not be asking for proof of God yet, and instead start asking the universe to send to you a teacher that can help you grow spiritually. Someone who fits with who you are and your unique learning needs. Maybe asking the Creator is too abstract for you to focus on, so ask the Universe as a whole. Ask the universe itself to teach you how the universe works. Ask and you shall receive. I guarantee you that if you ask the universe for revelation concerning the truth of all things then one day you will have it and you will look back on all of the growth that happened since the moment that you made your prayer, and you will realize that the universe responds to your intentions, and that truly God listens to and loves the Creation enough to teach us about who we truly are.

Answer 21

There is no proof for any of the thousands of gods people have worshipped and killed for.

Answer 22

i believe that he exists based on the proof i have seen

Answer 23

yes God exist creation declares his power and so does his words from the witnesses who saw him as well as jesus.



The holy spirit also declares about God.

Answer 24

"I am fascinated by some strange developments going on in astronomy....The astronomical evidence leads to a Biblical view of the origin of the world". -- Robert Jastrow (Astomomer) and former Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies



“The more I examine the universe and the details of its architecture, the more evidence I

find that the universe in some sense must have known we were coming.” - Freeman Dyson (physicist)



“The exquisite order displayed by our scientific understanding of the physical world calls

for the divine.” - Vera Kistiakowsky (physicist)



"For the scientist who has lived his dream by faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries." - Robert Jastrow (astronomer and physicist)



"... It would be perfectly consistent with all we know to say that there was a Being who was responsible for the laws of physics". Stephen Hawking....American Scientist, 73, (1985).





“As a scientist, I look at the world around me, and observe engineering mechanisms of such remarkable complexity that I am drawn to the conclusion of intelligent design being behind such complex order.”—ANDREW MCINTOSH, MATHEMATICIAN, WALES, UNITED KINGDOM



“The complexity of nature clearly points to a Creator. Every biological and physical system, once understood, shows incredible complexity.”—JOHN K. G. KRAMER, BIOCHEMIST, CANADA



“The order of the living world is plainly evident. It was set up by a superior Power that I personally call God. It is here that faith agrees with scientific truth. Far from contradicting it, it completes it, providing a simpler understanding of our universe.”—JEAN DORST, BIOLOGIST, FRANCE





NEED I SAY MORE?

Answer 25

not



a surpreme being with human-like qualities is a poor explanation for the universe.

Answer 26

He does. Logical enough?

Answer 27

yes, the human body is far too complex to have just happened.

Answer 28

Look at all that exist that should be proof.