Question:
why are christian kids not allowed to read harry potter, but lord of the rings and narnia are ok?
2007-01-31 11:31:59 UTC
why are christian kids not allowed to read harry potter, but lord of the rings and narnia are ok?
33 answers:
Left Libby
2007-01-31 11:37:17 UTC
Prof..once again, you are lumping and stereotyping Christians...we are NOT all alike nor do we BELIEVE the same things...anymore than the atheists do. There are not set rules that govern all "Christians" to believe exactly the same.



Some fundamentalist, right wing chruches banned Harry Potter...but by far more endorsed the Harry Potter books.



Book banning/burning, is an abomination to ME...a Christian.

LEFTY
Mr. Taco
2007-01-31 11:43:13 UTC
That's quite a generalization. I go to a Southern Baptist church, and when I was in a couples' study group, the parents in the group were constantly trading Harry Potter books and dvds for their kids. So the fact is that this is a stereotype of Christians based on a cross-section of Christians that do not represent the religion as a whole.



That said, C.S. Lewis was and Anglican who wrote the Narnia books in part as a fantasy, but also in part as a Christian allegory. Meanwhile, Tolkien was a devout Catholic, and the Lord of the Rings is seen as being symbolic of the battle between good and evil. Ultimately, I think you are right that their stories are not any different than the Harry Potter series in any practical sense. Because Rowling is not an overtly religious person like Tolkien and Lewis were, I think some Christians are quicker to look for excuses to dislike the Potter books. They see it as an "occult" book, and it really is. Nevermind the fact that it is pure FICTION. It's not like Rowling is trying to pass it off as a biography or something. So I am not sure what the fuss if all about.



Apparently neither do the parents in my bible study class.
2016-05-24 03:19:46 UTC
My husband and I are agnostics but we don't teach our kids to be like us. It's our own personal choice, we allow them to develop their own when it comes to religion and faith. They go to schools with Christian Living as one of the subjects, their teachers are Christian. They also love Harry Potter. I make it a point to play up the values the story contains like unconditional love, friendship, tolerance, respect, sacrifice and generally being good. I believe that it really doesn't matter if God or the church is being glossed over in the books as some of the fundamentalists claim. What matters is the series has morals and positive values the kids can learn. The fact that it is about witches and wizards does not make it different from Snow White, Cinderella, Rapunzel, Sleeping Beauty, The Wizard of Oz or Alice in Wonderland. The Harry Potter series teach more values and Christian insights than all these classics put together. I believe the current ban on Harry Potter would eventually be lifted once the hoopla and the hype surrounding it would have died down. And all the readers (young and old alike) do not turn into devil worshipping, witchcraft fanatics. Your daughter could still share Harry Potter with her friend even if the latter is not allowed to read the books or watch the movies. You didn't say if telling her friend about the books would make her parents angry. I hope it doesn't because that would indeed be sad.
Renee D
2007-01-31 11:59:22 UTC
I am a Christian, and I am "allowed" to read ANYTHING I want! God gave me free will!

I have read (and own) ALL of the Harry Potter books AND movies, AND I own all three Lord of the Rings movies, AS WELL AS Narnia.

Bottom line: The premise of all three selections listed is BASICALLY good vs evil. Good wins out in all three.

Harry Potter is quite a bit more light-hearted than the other two. It is also based on the universal milestones of childhood. I don't think Rowling's intention was to draw people to the occult. If you feel yourself drawn that way after reading the Harry Potter books, You should examine YOURSELF! What would make you so weak-minded?!

My children and I were drawn closer together as a result of reading the Harry Potter series. We had a standing appointment to read until we couldn't keep our eyes open before bed EVERY night until we finished. They are 13 & 14 now, and we CAN'T WAIT for the next installment! Even thought they are the ages they are, I have NO DOUBT that we will continue our tradition. I happen to think getting closer to your kids, and teaching them a love of reading is PLEASING to God. Closer relationships with our kids is KNOWN to keep them off the streets and out of trouble.

Some people just can't see the Forbidden Forrest for the trees!
♪ ♫Jin_Jur♫ ♥
2007-01-31 11:54:33 UTC
The Pope said that Harry Potter glorifies witchcraft & wizzardry and that's a no no in the catholic church. They'll burn ya you know! But I had to laugh when I read about him saying that. I thought it was pretty rich coming from a guy who believes the planet was created in 7 days and that you can feed thousands with a couple of fish and a loaf of bread. As for Narnia, it contains many allusions to traditional Christian ideas so I suppose that is why it's ok in the eyes of those who are against HP. Same with Lord of the Rings. In a letter to a friend, Tolkien wrote that the creation of Lord of the Rings was a "fundamentally religious and Christian work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision." Personally I think they're all great books and if I had kids I would definitely let them read them. In fact I would be extatic to have a child who reads!
Bill K Atheist Goodfella
2007-01-31 11:49:55 UTC
I know quite a few devout christians who hold Lord of the Rings with the same disdain as Harry Potter. However, the fact that its a modern classic tends to give it a bit more leeway in their eyes.



The entire Narnia series is loaded with biblical allegory, which makes it fine.



Harry Potter is very harmless really. Yes it talks about spells, potions, and the like; but it doesn't go into anything concerning the wiccan religion (or any other religion that deals in magic). If reading something like this is enough to lessen or weaken your faith in your god, what does that really say about your faith?



It's sad really. All three series are ultimately about a battle between good and evil. The most ironic part is that the fundamentalists who want HP banned, base their entire belief system on a man who performed magic...
The Pope
2007-01-31 11:46:27 UTC
Greetings. I, personally, LOVE the Harry Potter books, and I am Christian. Now, as to why some parents do not allow their children to read them, it is because they have not read them themselves and they are only going by what other people tell them. They are afraid and ignorant. As to why they allow their children to read Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia - they have been told that these books represent Christianity, and therefore are acceptable to read. Harry Potter is to the new generation what Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia were to generations of the past. They are marvelous books, and they should be enjoyed, and read aloud often.
westdyk1
2007-01-31 11:39:08 UTC
If you break down Narnia into the utter finemost pieces, you will find that the entire story has Christian overtones. Just about every piece of the Narnia story (all 7 books) relate to parts of the Christian life and walk.



Similarly, Lord of the Rings also has Christian overtones, however, these are much more difficult to find. One of the easiest ones if Gandalf's fall into darkness, his rebirth, and his coming as the sun rises in the east.



As for Harry Potter, as a Christian, I have had some long talks regarding Harry Potter with some parents who say they would never let their children read it and others who would. I am of the mind that if the child is old enough to understand the difference between what is real and what is phantasmagorical, then they would be ok to read it. However, the primary difference between the three books is that Harry Potter delves into the realm of the occult in witchcraft and sorcery. As you read further into the series of books, the theme becomes darker and more sinister.



The former two series show a salvation message while the latter has yet to provide anything of the sort.
tonks_op
2007-01-31 11:40:54 UTC
SOME Christian kids are not allowed to read HP. Their parents are misinformed. It is good that they are against it, because this way the people who need the message are getting it. Look really, really close. Especially book 6, the last page in the chapter "the lightening stuck tower". What do you see? The image she paints in your mind. DD is Jesus. Read it very carefully. .... the skull part. She does not say the dark mark this time she says Skull.. as in Golgotha. The HP books are full of Christian Symbolism, but not meant for you to see it plainly. It is very subliminal. She has done a great job. Any hypnotherapist would be proud of her, and I am.



There is so much I would like to say to the fundamentalist, but they would probably not understand anyway. Pity. Let me just say this. Rowling is a Christian and she can not talk about her beliefs until after the last book is published. Those of us who 'see' beneath the surface know what is coming. There is going to be a Resurrection. Then the whole world will know that this story is based on Christian ideas, but written so that everyone the world over will find something that they can follow. And to those who say that HP teaches the children bad things. You are very, very wrong. Read the teachings of Dumbledore. I dare you. Look on the internet for them.
lllll
2007-01-31 12:34:59 UTC
Because J. K Rowling was on food stamps when she wrote harry potter and J.R.R. Tolkein and C.S. Lewis were best buddies. Not to mention the undertones of Christianity all throughout Narnia, etc. Besides, anything that would encourage children to read would be like the educational system doing its job and we cant have that.
Prophet ENSLAVEMENTALITY (pbuh)
2007-01-31 12:20:24 UTC
The fact that some Christians see the Harry Potter books as "manuals on the occult" for young impressionable kids sickens me. Mainly because they're shamelessly and flamboyantly flaunting their abject, paranoid, and pitiful ignorance of the occult and the spiritual world in general.The spells in Harry Potter do not and CAN NOT produce any effect whatsoever, because 1. magick doesn't work that way and 2. they are laughably incoherent garbled admixtures of Latin and English that don't actually mean anything.
Sldgman
2007-01-31 11:49:19 UTC
The harry Potter books and movies are as much about witchcraft as Baywatch is about the profession of lifegaurd.



Following is part of the US Catholic Bishops review of the Harry Potter movies:



It is to be stressed, as with its predecessor, the film is only a fantasy -- not a course in witchcraft -- so it is not attempting to undermine Catholic beliefs. Harry is out to thwart evil and protect his fellow students even at the risk of his own safety.



it remains very clearly a fantasy, in no way a textbook for teaching black magic, and thus is no threat to Catholic teaching.



Despite lots of wand-waving, the real victories are won through self-sacrifice. As Gambon's Dumbledore counsels, "We must face the choice between what is right and what is easy." Such life lessons would support the contention of Father Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican official formerly of the Pontifical Council for Culture, that "the chief concern of ... (Rowling) is to help children understand the conflict between good and evil."
Jay
2007-01-31 11:37:01 UTC
1) Christians are allowed to read Harry Potter. Only a few sects or groups are trying to ban it.



2) Harry Potter is a book about witches, which are expressly forbidden in the Bible.



3) Narnia is a story that is a parable of the life of Christ (Aslan), the Apostles (the sons of Adam, and daughters of Eve...Adam & Eve!), the eldest of whom is Peter (>wink<), and the betrayer (forget his name) who betrays for a pittance.



4) Lord of the Rings is a similar tail, though not as laden with Christian symbolism.



5) Read #1 again.
Amy
2007-01-31 11:40:10 UTC
Narnia is fine - C.S. Lewis was a Godly man and his work reflected that. Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter are more graphic, demonic, fantasy in worldliness, godlessness. Potter especially - although the author claims it's just for fun - it's still witchcraft unfit for impressionable minds that have a hard time discerning truth from imagination. Perhaps at 15 or so - if my kids are interested they may be allowed to. What goes in must come out - will reading those book glorify God - that's the bottom line.
ccttct l
2007-01-31 11:49:15 UTC
With some ignorance and with others hypocrisy. Not all who profess to be Christians are Christians and not all true Christians are at the same level in their understanding of the Bible.



It is the joy of Christians to direct others by actual example to the character of Christ. Christ is at the center of their affections and he is the theme of the Christian life.



If the reading material does not inspire a deeper love for HIm, enourage a stronger desire for moral excellence or promote the development of a Christlike character then for a Christian, it is off limits. Reference literature is another story.



To the Christian I would say;



Can you picture reading the book to God ? Is it literature that you would recommend to Christ ? Is the beauty of Christ and the glory of God clearly and unmistakably magnified therein ? Will anyone desire to become a Christian after reading it ?



Show N Tell
Charnal_Void
2007-01-31 11:36:32 UTC
The use of magic is thought to be a dark art attributed to the Devil. So Harry's out. The whole Narnia/Lotr is all about the battle between good and evil. Thus most Christians favor these.
Cheshire Cat
2007-01-31 11:51:42 UTC
It depends on who got more donations from what author or publisher. Why else do people advertise one thing but badmouth another? $



Other than that it could be because JRR Tolkein and CS Lewis were both publicly Christian and cited their beliefs as expressed as metaphor in their books, while JK Rowling (hmm... what's up with all the initials instead of full names, eh?) claimed her primary influences to be her own experiences and Greek mythology. You also don't see much of a direct discussion of religion in her books either, even though Harry apparently lives in the "real world" too.
Lilith
2007-01-31 11:38:47 UTC
I've found that people who have to ban or barr themselves and others from whatever it may be (literature, movies, etc.) is because they themselves are weak willed and weak minded and are easily influenced. So they think that everyone else must be equally weak minded. People who ban their kids from reading Harry Potter obviously think that magic is real and evil instead of imaginary instead of just a story like all the normal folk do. Those who are easily swayed must be highly constricted I guess.
cmssko
2007-01-31 11:37:41 UTC
While the Lord of the Rings and Narnia do have elements of sorcery in them it is not focused on in their main plots.



Harry Potter is about witchcraft only.



I don't agree with it but some people feel that way. And note that I say some people not all.
2007-01-31 11:38:59 UTC
first, Witchcraft is NOT evil, only ignorant people whom close off their minds think that, and Harry potter is a child fantasy book, and in all reality if youve ever read harry potter, there are NO REAL spells, and it is like the other books, about good over doing evil, Harry battling Lord Voldamort to save other people....seems pretty good to me.



Fact is, most all Christains are ignorant, thats why.
2007-01-31 11:37:47 UTC
I see nothing wrong with Harry potter my son read it has them all, but some see all mention of witches and wizards as evil did they read fairy story's to their children I wonder even snow white has a witch in it .
straightup
2007-01-31 11:44:23 UTC
I wouldn't say "christian kids" because there is probably only a small group that won't allow their kids to read it, and if that is their choice, then so be it. They are great books and I'll let my kids read em'.
2007-01-31 11:35:32 UTC
Some Christians allow their kids to read that kind of stuff; other Christians do not.
akholler
2007-01-31 11:35:43 UTC
I cant answer that for sure...



However Narnia has very strong relationships to the Bible and it has been used as a tool to teach children...
guy f
2007-01-31 11:34:46 UTC
They can't read harry potter because it has magic in it and the magic is black and "evil" but i don't believe that. The reason the kids can read Narnia is because the story mimmicks what happened to jesus christ like how the lion sacrifices himself for the children. So basically the reason why they can't read it is because their parent's are deeply religous and their relion says that magic comes from the devil and that anyone who practices it will burn for it.
2007-01-31 11:35:30 UTC
C S Lewis was a famous Christian apologist so his books are regarded as okay by Christians.
2007-01-31 11:35:07 UTC
I'm a chrstian 19 year old, and I've read all of them at one time or another. I guess it depends on the parents.
g3tth1sc0ck
2007-01-31 11:37:45 UTC
i dont know in wich confession u r!

NOBODY say anything like that !!!

may be some stupid ppl not the pope not serious bishops...



IS NOT TRUE



About the lord of the rings i must say that if u read it with "understanding" u'll see that is one of the best crhistian books ever wrote...

p.s. (sorry about my english)
primoa1970
2007-01-31 11:35:06 UTC
Harry Potter represents witchcraft and evil.....

Lord of the Rings and Narnia represent Christ wiping out all evil.
2007-01-31 11:38:43 UTC
because, the church is nothing more then there to satisfy the peoples need for power. they abuse this power on their children, forcing them to do things claiming its gods will. not letting them do other things claiming they are devilish.



these people need to grow up.
2007-01-31 11:36:55 UTC
because the authors were both devout christians.
2007-01-31 11:40:55 UTC
Is that true



Never heard of it
2007-01-31 11:34:54 UTC
I'd heard a lot about the Harry Potter books, how they were filled with the occult, witches, spells, potions, and more. Emails came in asking me to comment on the books. So, I finally read one. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, by J. K. Rowling was my intro into the series.

Would I recommend it to Christians to read? Yes, and no. Yes, if you are doing research on the influence of the occult in today's society, or if you have a large website and need to review a book, or if you simply like reading this kind of thing and have no problem at all with it influencing you. On the other hand, I would not recommend it if you want to guard you or your children from the influence of occult principles and ideas. I'm sorry to say that the Potter book I read was definitely filled with witches, potions, spells, ghosts, magic wands, flying broomsticks, and more. It was definitely heavily into the occult.

Unfortunately for me, I am in a bit of a quandary. I think it is good let our imaginations run free, as long as it isn't sinful. Also, I don't want to be a kill-joy when it comes to simply reading fun kid stuff. After all, C. S. Lewis, the renowned Christian author wrote "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe." It is a story of make-believe, a witch, good and bad, a talking lion, etc. So, what is the difference between them? There is a big difference. C. S. Lewis wrote "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" with the intention of teaching Christian concepts. The failures of the occult side were demonstrated against the power of grace, love, and truth of God, though done through metaphor. The Potter book(s?) do no such thing, at least not the one that I read. It taught no Christian principles at all. If anything, it taught things in direct contradiction to scripture.

In the book, Harry Potter is an orphaned young boy. His parents were killed by an evil sorcerer named Voldemort who, for some unknown reason, couldn't kill Harry when he was an infant. The child is then delivered to his relatives who are Muggles, people who do not believe in magic. Harry, who is unaware of his true parentage and the world of magic, spends 10 years living in dingy conditions under the stairs of these selfish and uncaring Muggles. Finally, a giant named Hagrid appears with a startling invitation to study at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. Of course, Harry attends and is introduced to the previously unknown world of magic. The rest of the book takes place at the school. The occult flavor of the book is aptly represented in some of the course books required for the classes at the school: The Standard Book of Spells, A History of Magic, Magical Theory, Magical Drafts and Potions, The Dark Forces: a Guide to Self-Protection, etc.

In the book several spells are cast and we see the use of an invisibility cloak, magic wands, and flying broomsticks. Witches are basically people who have magic skills. Ghosts are helpful. Mention is made of the need to study the stars and their names, which can affect magic, along with herbs and fungi which are used in potions. In all, there is plenty of magic, wizardry, spells, as well as plain old suspense and drama. The book was written well enough to keep my interest. Too bad it was filled with so much dark occultism. Furthermore, lying and deception were not condemned. Instead, they were justifiably used to accomplish the necessary ends of the characters.

I offer two criticisms. First the subjective. I found that after I had finished reading the book, I was more open to accepting occult ideas. I was desensitized a bit to the occult having spent a few days vicariously involved in it. The result was that these dark ideas were simply on my mind and I was more "aware" of and accepting of the ideas of sorcery, casting spells, using potions, etc. And in a very small way, I noticed my interest in reading the Bible had diminished. Now, this is just me and my experience, very subjective, and I do not claim that it is normative. It is just my observation of how I felt about it. Nevertheless, I can't help wonder how it might effect the young, impressionable kids who are hooked on the books. As a Christian, I can't see the influence being a positive one.

Second, biblically, we are to focus on godly things, not the ungodly. "Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, let your mind dwell on these things," (Phil. 4:8). Also, the Bible condemns contacting the dead, séances, etc. Therefore, as a Christian parent, I would not want my children reading the Potter's books because I don't want them to be influenced in any way towards the occult. When they are older and can make their own choices or when I think they are mature enough to read the books and not be negatively influenced by them, then I think it would be okay.

But, as a Christian, I cannot recommend that Christians read the Harry Potter books.

Are the Harry Potter books sinister attempts to undermine Christian values and replace them with the evil teachings of witchcraft and sorcery? No. Should Christians seek to have the books banned? No. Are they fun to read? Yes. This isn't a proclamation of fear or intolerance. As a Christian, and from a biblical perspective, I believe the Harry Potter books to be harmful spiritually. Right or wrong. That is my opinion.


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