Why do athesits blame christians for cherry picking verses?

Question

They aren't.

I hear it all the time.

Why don't christians condone slavery since it is in the old testament, or why don't christians say its ok for a rapist to marry a virgin if she is singel and pays the father.

The thing is thats not what christianity is all about.

Clearly atheists haven't read this verse.

Hebrews 3:3
Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself.


The old testament is not what christians practice, so just because there's lots of **** written in the old doesn't mean they practice it. There's a reason why there's a thing called "The old testament", and "The new testament". So if you want to accuse a christian for cherry picking then look up the new testament and accuse them stuff like "Giving women rights to teach in public"

But some might say that Paul is not Jesus. But he was according to the bible sent by Jesus. So you can use that.

But i know there are people going to bring up "The Ten Commandments".

That's more of a Judaism-Christianity thing. Some have argued that its not relevant in christianity since Jesus did all the thing.

Not a christian, Atheist. But Christians are deffinetely not cherry picking verses if it means only following the new testament.

By just looking at the history of old testament, in religious view (Not Historical view) Is not practicing it

Answer 1

Why do athesits blame christians for cherry picking verses



- Because they do, well documented.



I hear it all the time.



- And then you wonder why. Tryreading something intelligent rather than just fundie captions.



The thing is thats not what christianity is all about.



- It is what the bible is about, but then you cherry pick only the parts youi like. See how that works.



Clearly atheists haven't read this verse.



- But then you have not read - no law has changed, no word has changed no letter has changed. There you are cherry picking again.



The old testament is not what christians practice,



- It is when you want to hate some one.



just because there's lots of **** written in the old doesn't mean they practice it.



- They do when it is convenient. By the way, the 10 commandments are in the OT.



So if you want to accuse a christian for cherry picking then look up the new testament and accuse them stuff like "Giving women rights to teach in public"



- Except that Corinthians says women are to be quite and subserviant in public and to all men. You have never actually read the bible have you.

Answer 2

Because you do. You're probably not able to see it because your religious leaders did the picking for you and simply told you that these verses counted, these others didn't, and still others don't really mean what they say. You personally didn't do the cherry picking, but you've been taught an interpretation with the cherry-picking already in place.



The Massachusetts Bay colonists believed that the Old Testament rules were still valid and based their court system on them. When there was a case of a young farmhand accused of getting too friendly with one of the animals, they brought the animal in, killed it in front of the kid, then hung the kid, according to Old Testament law. They certainly did not believe that the law was for Jews only, or that it had been nailed to the cross with Jesus.



So clearly if you've been taught that the OT is no longer valid, or the law was not meant for Christians, it's because someone has cherry-picked and made up an excuse for not following the parts they decided they didn't want to follow.



Paul was sent by Jesus according to Paul. Convenient, huh? (Acts was written by one of Paul's close followers, in case you didn't know that.) If you read between the lines you can see that the original apostles were none to happy with what Paul was teaching and tried to visit his churches to correct what he had wrongly taught them. Paul's hissy fits about being contradicted by the people who actually knew Jesus snuck into a few of his letters, most notably Galatians.



Sure, I'll bring up the Ten Commandments, because your excuse for that is "That's different. It just is. Don't ask why." Seriously?

Answer 3

Some Christians SAY that every word in the Bible is true, is god's instructions for how to live, and should be followed completely.



So people arguing with them choose things that those people clearly DON'T live by. That's not cherry-picking.



WE don't say every word in the Bible is unalterably true; fanatical Christians do.



If the fanatical Christians would stop saying that every word is literally true, and should be followed to the letter, then we wouldn't keep raising those kinds of issues.



Myself, I just talk about how almost no one keeps the Sabbath holy -- people do all sorts of stuff they're "not supposed" to, according to the Bible.



LOL -- Christians don't argue that the Big Ten aren't relevant; they scream about them constantly, want them posted everywhere, force every child to memorize them (even though only a few are universal moral principles -- the rest are all about worshiping the imaginary Sky Bully).



LOL, YOU are trying to argue that NO Christian has EVER cherry-picked from the NT? HAHAHAHAHAHA!



I guess you've never MET any Christians.

Answer 4

Atheists blame Christians for cherry-picking verses because Christians routinely cherry-pick verses. And they by no means limit this cherry-picking to the Old Testament.



Every major (and minor) doctrinal argument between Christian denominations is based on which verses they say are important, and which should be ignored. Whether it's which day of the week to go to church, the state of the dead, the Rapture, or even the Trinity.



Some Christians answer those questions one way based on what is written in the New Testament, while other Christians answer them entirely differently - based on what is written in the New Testament.

Answer 5

Because they do. They do it constantly. Hundreds (maybe thousands) of Christians every day quote any number of verses in the NT about Jesus' returning to say that he's coming any day now and completely ignore the verses where he says that it will happen in the lifetime of the people he's talking to. They quote "God is love" all the time and ignore all the verses in the OT where god says he hates evil and the wicked, and that the book says perfect love does not fear but that fearing God is a good thing and loving him with all your heart and mind and soul is mandatory.



And the irony in it all is that they will never understand that for most claims in the bible, you can use bible verses to argue both the position and the counter position. They have no choice but to cherry-pick most of the time.



As for the OT, Isaiah is where the get the name "Lucifer" from, and ignorantly continue to use that to name the Satan. Genesis is where they get their science from if they're creationists, and also the father of their religion: Abraham. Exodus is where they get their prophets from, and the rest is what they think is real history pointing to their demigod, even when it has nothing to do with their demgod. There is no detaching Christianity from its origins, even though Christianity is heretical to its origins.

Answer 6

Except there are plenty who do cherry pick parts of the OT to support hatred and discrimination. The ignore the parts they want to ignore and pay attention to the parts that make them feel like they can tell two people they cannot get married or that a person of the wrong color should not be around people of the other color or that a girl can't go to school and so forth.



Also, a lot of people ignore the parts of the bible that do not add up. There are lots of errors and contradictions in there. Most people ignore those. I suppose that would be kind of reverse-cherry picking.

Answer 7

You're right of course...I haven't read the whole Bible so I don't know every verse nor do I care to. But Christians do cherry pick their Bible quotes whether you believe it or not. I like to look at the big picture which is your god teaches you to love and some do I guess. But there is also a great deal of hatred in so called Christians. Indeed I sense some animosity in your question/rant. Where is your love? For gays, Atheists, or anyone else you seem to have issues with?

Answer 8

Don't confuse flesh with hypocrisy and slave trades perpetrated by those wearing incommensurable spectacles - And Atheism is just a pigeon hole we mentally choose to join, because if we wield illusion we're likely to reap it too.



We never seem to hear so called black people working at burger king or in local warehouses complaining about the activities of a bygone era. (Pointing fingers at slave trades)

Not every so called white man enslaved in a warehouse covets the managers wife or the managers daughters - Likewise, not every so called black man coveted the slave masters wife or the slave masters daughters - But it seems that some did and some do.



When we point fingers there are always fingers pointing back at us.

And now you know how the devil works - slice it and dice it how you like, and justify yourself for an eternity - When all said and done, all flesh is as grass (What if I was blind?), but we all know that for people like them the grass is always greener on the other side, and they will always pick up keys which open doors which don't exist. (Funny how we are more likely to hear so called black people ensconced in hypocrite organizational monogamy, civil service, finance/banking, politics, law and even Thespians/Music/Idolatry AKA the entertainment industry etc making such allegations against slavery – These are merely the same duplicitous usurping skulldugers sneaking around rich in ego pointing fingers due to their own horrendous reflection - Obsessed with taking the Devils cash and falling asleep - (The Devil hates the mirror)



While some of us strive to assist and help our neighbours, it seems many are sneaking around carrying hammers sickles and spades murdering them without being caught – Hmmm !!



PS: Good luck conquering this lunatic asylum, it's been tried many times before.

Answer 9

They don't cherry pick? Of course they do. Why the anti-gay sentiment that's prevalent among many evangelicals, while ignoring verses which condemn those that are greedy or gluttonous? Not only that, but the New Testament condones slavery, which, I'm pretty sure, was banned in spite of it being acceptable in Biblical times.

Answer 10

They are fulfilling the same role from long ago when the Sadducees and Pharisees tried to trap Christ with questions from the Old Testament:



"Then the Pharisees went and plotted together how they might trap Him in what He said. 16And they sent their disciples to Him, along with the Herodians, saying, “Teacher, we know that You are truthful and teach the way of God in truth, and defer to no one; for You are not partial to any. 17“Tell us then, what do You think? Is it lawful to give a poll-tax to Caesar, or not?”....



Then again:



"23On that day some Sadducees (who say there is no resurrection) came to Jesus and questioned Him, 24asking, “Teacher, Moses said, ‘IF A MAN DIES HAVING NO CHILDREN, HIS BROTHER AS NEXT OF KIN SHALL MARRY HIS WIFE, AND RAISE UP CHILDREN FOR HIS BROTHER.’....



And again...:



"34But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered themselves together. 35One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, 36“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?”....



The desire to trap Christians is an ancient one! The preferred method is to pick something from the Old Testament (the "Law and the Prophets")....and challenge those under Christ's New Covenant about Why aren't they following the Old Covenant, or How do they explain ______...etc., etc., etc., over and over, just as when Christ walked the Earth.

Answer 11

There's a reason the OT and NT are both part of the Bible. Clearly you aren't a Christian, so try not to be the posert child for those of us who are.



Speaking of cherry-picking, you're the one doing that, by dismissing the OT all together.

Answer 12

There is a very good reason I accuse christians of cherry picking and that's because they do. Is it not cherry picking when they refuse to obey jesus telling them to follow the laws of the prophets?



Matt 5:18, 19 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Answer 13

As a Christian; suggest one think about definition of old testament!!! God's old testament is the law of Moses; NOT Genesis-Malachi. One CAN NOT have the law of Moses before Moses was born. Similar logic; one CAN NOT have the law of Jesus before Jesus was born HOWEVER Jesus was the light of the world created on Day 1 of Creation (John 8&9). Put anoter way; Genesis is NOT old testament.

Answer 14

Amazing, however, how often Xians dig back into the Old Testament to rationalize their anti-gay positions on various issues. You can't have it both ways - if the New Covenant replaced the Old Testament then leave it alone entirely. (As it happens, there's nothing at all in the New Testament quoting Jesus as opposing homosexuality.)

Answer 15

Why do Atheist blame Christians for Cherry picking Verses Hey honey please read what you wrote Hebrews 3:3 what is that called DAH what do you call that "Cherry picking a verse " you pull verses out of the bible to express your view cherry pick defined as to select or choose the most beneficial verses to express your view ok you just confirmed Christians cherry pick unless your not a christian And if you reject the the OT then where does your god come from and your religious law of the 10 commandments and last i checked Catholics where Christians and they along with you practice polytheism God _ Jesus _ holy spirit DUH now that's really cherry picking your god # 1 is origin in the OT as well as your "CREATION THEORY" God # 2 Jesus from the NT and beats me where the #3 spirit comes from you are one of the best cherry pickers I have see

Answer 16

Then they shouldn't have stuck their doctrine onto the Old Testament and called it a continuation - much to the ire of the Jews.

Answer 17

You might want to tell that to the scores of Christians who use the Bible to condemn homosexuality even though the only reference to it is in the old testament. Also, pretty much every Christian everywhere holds the ten commandments to be the primary source of Christian morality.

Answer 18

Because that's what they do and they want us to pick only

the cherries they pick; the ones they think are spoiled but

Christians know are meant for someone elses' recipe.

Answer 19

Then they shouldn't have stuck their doctrine onto the Old Testament and called it a continuation - much to the ire of the Jews.

Answer 20

So, you respond to the criticism of cherry-picking verses, by cherry-picking a verse?



I'm confused.

Answer 21

You mean the old testament does not count anymore?

The rule that god gave to his followers are not to be followed anymore?

The objective morality from god has changed?

The true word of god is only half true?

OMG.

Answer 22

So, you respond to the criticism of cherry-picking verses, by cherry-picking a verse?



I'm confused.

Answer 23

Because Christians do and it disgraces God!



"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means." George Bernard Shaw

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony



What excuse do you use to show intolerance, hatred, bigotry and persecution towards anyone that dares believe differently to yourself?



"Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. -Mat 6:1