Question:
Christians look at what your Bible foretold, If you dont believe it then your not a Christian?
Staring Is Rude So Don'T Stare
2013-02-23 16:03:44 UTC
THE AWAITED PROPHET WAS TO COME FROM ARABIA

Deuteronomy 33:1-2 combines references to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. It speaks of God (i.e. God's revelation) coming from Sinai, rising from Seir (probably the village of Sa'ir near Jerusalem) and shining forth from Paran. According to Genesis 21:21, the wilderness of Paran was the place where Ishmael settled (i.e. Arabia, specifically Mecca).

Indeed the King James version of the Bible mentions the pilgrims passing through the valley of Ba'ca (another name of Mecca) in Psalms 84:4-6.

Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the beloved of God. His elect and messenger who will bring down a law to be awaited in the isles and who "shall not fail nor be discouraged till he have set judgement on earth." Verse 11, connects that awaited one with the descendants of Ke'dar. Who is Ke'dar? According to Genesis 25:13, Ke'dar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of prophet Muhammad.



MUHAMMAD'S MIGRATION FROM MECCA TO MEDINA:
PROPHECIED IN THE BIBLE?

Habakkuk 3:3 speaks of God (God's help) coming from Te'man (an Oasis North of Medina according to J. Hasting's Dictionary of the Bible), and the holy one (coming) from Paran. That holy one who under persecution migrated from Paran (Mecca) to be received enthusiastically in Medina was none but prophet Muhammad.
Indeed the incident of the migration of the prophet and his persecuted followers is vividly described in Isaiah 21:13-17. That section foretold as well about the battle of Badr in which the few ill-armed faithful miraculously defeated the "mighty" men of Ke'dar, who sought to destroy Islam and intimidate their own folks who turned -to Islam.


For twenty-three years, God's words (the Qur'an) were truely put into Muhammad's mouth. He was not the "author" of the Qur'an. The Qur'an was dictated to him by Angel Gabriel who asked Muhammad to simply repeat the words of the Qur'an as he heard them. These words were then committed to memory and to writing by those who hear them during Muhammad's life time and under his supervision.

Was it a coincidence that the prophet "like unto Moses" from the "brethren" of the Israelites (i.e. from the lshmaelites) was also described as one in whose mouth God will put his words and that he will speak in the name of God, (Deuteronomy 18:18-20). Was it also a coincidence the "Paraclete" that Jesus foretold to come after Him was described as one who "shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak (John 16:13)
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Citrine Dream
2013-02-23 16:04:48 UTC
I stopped being a Christian a long time ago, what's your point?
The_Cricket: Thinking Pink!
2013-02-24 00:41:22 UTC
Deuteronomy 33 is not about Muhammad. It says that *God* did these things. Muhammad is not God. Here:

http://www.answering-islam.org/BibleCom/dt33_2.htm



Psalm 84 is probably not about Mecca, since Mecca didn't even exist until at least the 4th century CE. Also, the pilgrimage spoken of in Psalm 84 was to Zion, not Mecca. Further, the same valley is mentioned in other parts of the Bible (2 Samuel 5:23-24 and 1 Chronicles 14:14-15), and it's described as being only a few miles from Jerusalem, not in Arabia. Here:

http://reformedanswers.org/answer.asp/file/40469



Isaiah 42 does not say that the "servant" will come from Kedar. What it does say is this:

Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;

let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.

It then goes on to say:

Let the people of Sela sing for joy;

let them shout from the mountaintops.

Here:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Zaman/isaiah42.htm



As for Habakkuk 3, the verse says:

God came from Teman,

the Holy One from Mount Paran.

Is Muhammad God? Of course not. So no, this verse is not talking about Muhammad. Here:

http://carm.org/does-habakkuk-3-3-predict-muhammad



Isaiah 21 is not about Muhammad. Here:

http://www.answering-islam.org/BibleCom/is21-13-17.html



Deuteronomy 18 is also not about Muhammad. Here:

http://carm.org/deuteronomy-18-muhammad



I'm sorry, but you're mistaken.
Cader and Glyder scrambler
2013-02-24 00:08:31 UTC
The most important of those specifically states that the prophet like Moses will come from the Hebrews, and the one about the paraclete is talking about the Holy Spirit as is obvious from reading the context. If Mohammed was prophet of God he would not have killed so many Jewish people as well.



The New Testament, not the Koran, describes what is required to be a christian.
2013-02-24 00:23:24 UTC
If I believed what you wrote, then I would have to not believe in the Bible.



And I would have to be not a Christian.



And I would have to be an idiot!



Did you even **read** the stuff that you wrote? Do you honestly believe that it is **reasonable**?



Question: who gave you the authority to determine who is and who is not a Christian?





Conclusion:

a - unsupported (and unsupportable) claims

b - completely and totally bereft of logic (reason)



Truly: only an idiot would believe what you have written here! It's **not reasonable**.



- Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com/
anthony h
2013-02-24 00:07:33 UTC
that dumb koran has nothing to do with the word of God.



your koran is about what muhammad says he saw in his mental fits of pyschosis.



JESUS SAID BEHOLD I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS. not muhummad who plagerized the word of God and created a bloody violent murdering religion of death and destruction, that is the job of satan.



You have been deceived.
Mr. Bluelight
2013-02-24 00:08:55 UTC
Ever notice how there's a Pasadena in California and a Pasadena in Texas?



Suppose this is the same thing?
Jersey Girl
2013-02-24 00:12:54 UTC
Surely you jest.



Come to forums.catholic.com



And post this on there. We'll be very happy to explain everything to help you understand your error.
2013-02-24 00:11:04 UTC
I believe in people knowing the difference between *your and *you're
choZen
2013-02-24 00:10:15 UTC
I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.


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