Question:
If God created the world in seven actual days..?
Gamla Joe
2007-05-16 13:22:26 UTC
Then why so long?

A deity that is omnipotent could create a universe in less then seven seconds. Seven days seems too long.

Also how could there be days before a sun?
26 answers:
Redeemed
2007-05-16 13:25:49 UTC
"If God created the world in seven actual days..?"



No, six days to be precise...
ronald s
2007-05-16 13:31:58 UTC
There was light before the sun. The question how could there be days before the sun is completely irrelevant because God having the power and ability to create the sun. Would have the power and ability to use the presun light to act as day and night.



You are right time (not timing though) is irrelevant to God. He exists outside of time and space. He has to because he created it.



But think about what 7 days is. It's our week. Days, months, years are astronomical observations. The week is not. God took seven days to teach us our week work for six and rest of the seventh.



Good question one is commonly asked. I hope this helps.
J G
2007-05-16 13:35:22 UTC
okay first the sun was created before the days began.



next god's omnipotence is not called to question in the seven days. im sure he could make it in less time but he chose to so thats it then.



but more importantly i doubt the whole story is meant to be taken literal. story telling is an important way to view genesis. the bible was pass down from generation to generation.



now let me take you back, it sounded like this.



long ago, god set out to make the earth. he created the sun and all this stuff and that was the first day on earth.



its not meant to be a list of facts, its a flowing story.
Spurious
2007-05-16 13:32:19 UTC
If you choose to take it literally, then it's 7 days. But if, however, you really look at the metaphorical side of it, the 7 does not necessarily have to mean "days" at all. it could simply mean 7 steps in the creation process.........and that still does place logical emphasis on the world being formed and structured in a certain order, as the scientists would agree. And even if the 7 is symbolic of a time period, what is 7 days in God's time might just be millions of years by human time.
Kithy
2007-05-16 13:29:02 UTC
Well, it was 6 days. *wink* He rested on the 7th. (I know, smartass answer). But I have to agree.. an all powerful deity should be able to simply create the whole thing in the blink of an eye.



Good point... it also says he created the plants before there was sunlight. If you read the 1st chapter it says God created the Light and said it was good, then a couple of days later created the sun, moon and stars. What was that 1st light if it wasn't the sun?
SOM S
2007-05-16 13:36:19 UTC
First, you cannot compare those 7 days with 7 days of today. Second, everything God does, has a clear logic - the events had to have a sequence and to describe the sequence He describes them in periods (called days for our ease of understanding). The logic is more apparent when you map the periods with major changes in the evolution of universe as described by science (Big Bang then Gaseos clouds, then cooling down then formation of planets then formation of water and then life). So He created the universe under certain principles and framework which human beings can discover and use to innovate their own stuff.

I have tried to capture a lengthy topic in one paragraph to ensure people dont get bored with details - if you are interested, there are a number books/study material available that helps in making the connection (and trust me, it makes a lot of sense).

Hope this helps.
Yoda
2007-05-16 13:33:52 UTC
God is unborn, that is "for God there is no past, present and future". The spiritual world does not grow, age, or die. Therefore, time is a concept of the material world only.



Now, the creator deity is a mortal being whom will also die at the desolution of the material world. He is the God whom took 6 days to create the world, and one day of rest. The only question to ask is "how long is one day for the creator deity?". It doesn't say 6 earth days' does it?



The lesson from this passage is that one should work for 6/7th of your time, and rest for 1/7th of it.
johnnywalker
2007-05-16 13:28:40 UTC
-God could have done it in a split second-why He chose 6 days will remain a mystery until the end.

-Days before the sun? Whats your point? He created light before the sun. The sun is "not" light, it does give off light as it burns. Plants could live quiet a while without the sun-one day would not be a problem for plants.
BigOnDrums
2007-05-16 13:28:49 UTC
They were time periods, not actual days like we know them. He did these things described systematically. He made everything by gathering matter. It was done this way so non-believers could speculate how it could happen naturally. This way even the existance of it all wouldn't be proof enough for some. If we all had proof of everything, there would be no room for faith and therefore no reason to come here to be tested.
2007-05-16 13:26:12 UTC
To cling on to a stubborn belief that the Bible is completely literal in a matter we know it cannot be stands in the way of spirituality rather than heightening it. It does nothing to spread Jesus' message or give more credit to God. It is a form of Bible worship that distracts from the real spiritual aspect of Judaism and Christianity.
Jelly Beans
2007-05-16 13:25:33 UTC
sorry but yeah i think you are wrong, the stories in the first part of the old testament were not written down as such, like a diary or journal each day as things happened. no, they were passed down generation after generation around the campfires and on long hunts until someone recorded them, currently believed to be moses or his scribe and by then the story of course had changed many times as had the time and space perception.



Source(s):



wanna jelly bean
Lauren.
2007-05-16 13:26:06 UTC
And how many days are in a week on Earth today ???



Exactly..





Seven days because this was supposed to set a standard for our week .....





ya know... work 6 and rest on the seventh... the sabbath.... usually when people go to church.



People say "WHY DID HE NEED A DAY TO REST?!?!"



yeah its because when he was setting our standard of time he created a day to rest and worship him.... not because he needed a power nap...
2007-05-16 13:49:46 UTC
According to the Abrahamic myth, it was six days. But even so, what's the rush? There was no one around to look at their watch and ask God, "Hey, what the heck's taking you so long?"
2007-05-16 13:26:48 UTC
The real question is.... a super all-powerful deity needs a 7th day to rest? Why does god, a supreme being need to rest? Surely something as powerful as god would not need to rest himself after a long week at work.



And more importantly... what does god need with a starship?
June smiles
2007-05-16 14:24:39 UTC
You people do not get it, A day in God's time is not something we can possibly measure. Also, God created in the way he chose, we don't know what it was.



God's time, God's way!
bluebear
2007-05-16 13:26:12 UTC
a good and classic argument.

it is the conundrum, the dividing line between those who are into the literal translations and those who allow high metaphor to play a role
joe_on_drums
2007-05-16 13:30:27 UTC
Each miracle took a day. Each new day added more life and miracles to it's credit.



The measure of a day is not referring to "day-light", but to a day's time.



Whatever you can do to add a POSITIVE spin on the earth, please do! We can use your help, but keep it positive.
Graciela, RIRS
2007-05-16 13:26:51 UTC
When you ask a question like this you'll usually hear "The Lord works in mysterious ways". This means you've stumped the other person and they have no logical explanantion.
♥LadyC♥
2007-05-16 13:26:01 UTC
How long can it take you to create a world?



Not being a smarty-pants, just using a scenario. God can do whatever is in his power to do, in his own time.
Azena
2007-05-16 13:25:10 UTC
Yes
Soundtrack to a Nightmare
2007-05-16 13:25:32 UTC
Also, a deity that is omniscient, unlike yourself would know the answer to your question. Ask Him, son!



word
2007-05-16 13:26:04 UTC
He did a good job and He can do anything....time could be around whenever He says....try tfootnote bibles folks....THEY HELP TO EXPLAIN ALOT OF STUFF
2007-05-16 14:27:17 UTC
It was six days dear.
Bad Liberal
2007-05-16 13:25:18 UTC
Stop making sense.
Danielle
2007-05-16 13:25:33 UTC
no one know
MG
2007-05-20 10:35:23 UTC
Did God really take six days?

by Don Batten (editor), Ken Ham, Jonathan Sarfati, and Carl Wieland



First published in The Revised & Expanded Answers Book

Chapter 2



Are the days of creation ordinary days? Could they be long periods of time? Why six days? Does the length of the days really affect the Gospel? How can there be ‘days’ without the sun on the first three days? Does Genesis 2 contradict Genesis 1? How are we meant to understand the Bible?





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Why is it important?



If the days of creation are really ‘geologic ages’ of millions of years, then the Gospel message is undermined at its foundation because it puts death, disease, thorns and suffering before the Fall. This idea also shows an erroneous approach to Scripture—that the Word of God can be interpreted on the basis of the fallible theories of sinful people.



It is a good exercise to read Genesis chapter one and try to put aside outside influences that may cause you to have a pre-determined idea of what the word ‘day’ may mean. Just let the words of the passage speak to you.



Taking Genesis 1 in this way, at face value, without doubt it seems to say that God created the universe, the earth, the sun, moon and stars, plants and animals, and the first two people, within six ordinary (approximately 24 hour) days. Being really honest, one would have to admit that you could never get the idea of millions of years from reading this passage.



However, the majority of Christians (including many Christian leaders) in the Western world either do not insist that these days of creation were ordinary days, or they accept and teach that they must have been long periods of time—even millions or billions of years.





How does God communicate?



God communicates through language. When he made the first man Adam, he had already ‘programmed’ him with a language, so there could be communication. Human language consists of words used in a specific context that relates to the entire reality around us.



Thus, God can reveal things to man, and man can communicate with God, as these words have meaning and convey an understandable message. If this were not so, how could any of us communicate with each other, or with God, or God with us?





Why ‘long days’?



Romans 3:4a: ‘ … let God be true, and every man a liar.’

In every instance where someone has not accepted the ‘days’ of creation to be ordinary days, it is because they have not allowed the words of Scripture to speak to them in context, as the language requires for communication. They have been influenced by ideas from outside of Scripture. Thus they have set a precedent that could allow any word to be reinterpreted by the preconceived ideas of the person reading the words. Ultimately, this will lead to a communication breakdown, as the same words in the same context could mean different things to different people.





The Church Fathers



Most ‘church fathers’ accepted the days as ordinary days.1 It is true that some of the early church fathers did not teach the ‘days’ of creation as ordinary days—but many of them had been influenced by Greek philosophy, which caused them to interpret the days as allegorical. They reasoned that the creation ‘days’ were related to God’s activities, and God being timeless meant that the ‘days’ could not be related to human time.2 In contrast to today’s allegorizers, they could not accept that God took as long as six days.



Thus the non-literal ‘days’ resulted from extra-biblical influences (i.e. influences outside the Bible), not from the words of the Bible!



This approach has affected the way people interpret Scripture to this day. As the man who started the Reformation said:



‘The Days of Creation were ordinary days in length. We must understand that these days were actual days (veros dies), contrary to the opinion of the Holy Fathers. Whenever we observe that the opinions of the Fathers disagree with Scripture, we reverently bear with them and acknowledge them to be our elders. Nevertheless, we do not depart from the authority of Scripture for their sake.’3





Today’s church leaders



Many church leaders today do not accept the creation days as ordinary Earth-rotation days. However, when their reasons are investigated, we find that influences from outside of Scripture (particularly belief in a billions-of-years-old universe) are the ultimate cause.



Again and again, such leaders admit that Genesis 1, taken in a straight-forward way, seems to teach six ordinary days. But they then say that this cannot be, because of the age of the universe, or because of some other extra-biblical reason!



Consider the following representative quotes from Bible scholars who are considered to be conservative, yet do not accept the days of creation as ordinary days:



‘From a superficial reading of Genesis 1, the impression would seem to be that the entire creative process took place in six twenty-four-hour days ... this seems to run counter to modern scientific research, which indicates that the planet Earth was created several billion years ago’4



‘ ... we have shown the possibility of God’s having formed the earth and its life in a series of creative days representing long periods. In view of the apparent age of the earth, this is not only possible—it is probable.’5



It is as if these theologians view ‘nature,’ as a ‘67th book of the Bible,’ albeit with more authority than the 66 written books. Consider the words of Charles Haddon Spurgeon in 1877:



‘We are invited, brethren, most earnestly to go away from the old-fashioned belief of our forefathers because of the supposed discoveries of science. What is science? The method by which man tries to conceal his ignorance. It should not be so, but so it is. You are not to be dogmatical in theology, my brethren, it is wicked; but for scientific men it is the correct thing. You are never to assert anything very strongly; but scientists may boldly assert what they cannot prove, and may demand a faith far more credulous than any we possess. Forsooth, you and I are to take our Bibles and shape and mould our belief according to the ever-shifting teachings of so-called scientific men. What folly is this! Why, the march of science, falsely so called, through the world may be traced by exploded fallacies and abandoned theories. Former explorers once adored are now ridiculed; the continual wreckings of false hypotheses is a matter of universal notoriety. You may tell where the learned have encamped by the debris left behind of suppositions and theories as plentiful as broken bottles.’6



Those who would use historical science (as propounded by people who by-and-large ignore God’s written revelation) to interpret the Bible, to teach us things about God, have things back to front. Because we are fallen, fallible creatures, we need God’s written Word, illuminated by the Holy Spirit, to properly understand natural history. The respected systematic theologian Berkhof said,7



‘ ... Since the entrance of sin into the world, man can gather true knowledge about God from His general revelation only if he studies it in the light of Scripture, in which the elements of God’s original self-revelation, which were obscured and perverted by the blight of sin, are republished, corrected, and interpreted. … Some are inclined to speak of God’s general revelation as a second source; but this is hardly correct in view of the fact that nature can come into consideration here only as interpreted in the light of Scripture.’



In other words, Christians should build their thinking on the Bible, not on ‘science.’





The ‘days’ of Genesis one



What does the Bible tell us about the meaning of ‘day’ in Genesis 1? A word can have more than one meaning, depending on the context. For instance, the English word ‘day’ can have perhaps 14 different meanings. For example, consider the following sentence: ‘Back in my father’s day, it took ten days to drive across the Australian Outback during the day.’ Here the first occurrence of ‘day’ means ‘time’ in a general sense. The second ‘day,’ where a number is used, refers to an ordinary day, and the third refers to the daylight period of the 24-hour period. The point is that words can have more than one meaning, depending on the context.



To understand the meaning of ‘day’ in Genesis 1, we need to determine how the Hebrew word for ‘day,’ yom, is used in the context of Scripture. Consider the following:



A typical concordance will illustrate that yom can have a range of meanings: a period of light as contrasted to night, a 24-hour period, time, a specific point of time, or a year.



A classical, well-respected Hebrew-English lexicon8 (a one-way dictionary) has seven headings and many subheadings for the meaning of yom—but defines the creation days of Genesis 1 as ordinary days under the heading ‘day as defined by evening and morning.’



A number, and the phrase ‘evening and morning,’ are used for each of the six days of creation (Genesis 1:5,8,13,19,23,31).



Outside Genesis 1, yom is used with a number 410 times, and each time it means an ordinary day9—why would Genesis 1 be the exception?10



Outside Genesis 1, yom is used with the word ‘evening’ or ‘morning’11 23 times. ‘Evening’ and ‘morning’ appear in association, but without yom, 38 times. All 61 times the text refers to an ordinary day—why would Genesis 1 be the exception?12



In Genesis 1:5, yom occurs in context with the word ‘night.’ Outside of Genesis 1, ‘night’ is used with yom 53 times—and each time it means an ordinary day. Why would Genesis 1 be the exception? Even the usage of the word ‘light’ with yom in this passage determines the meaning as ordinary day.13



The plural of yom, which does not appear in Genesis 1, can be used to communicate a longer time period, e.g. ‘in those days.’14 Adding a number here would be nonsensical. Clearly, in Exodus 20:11 where a number is used with days, it unambiguously refers to six Earth-rotation days.



There are words in biblical Hebrew (such as olam or qedem) that are very suitable for communicating long periods of time, or indefinite time, but none of these words are used in Genesis 1.15 Alternatively, the days or years could have been compared with grains of sand if long periods were meant.



Dr James Barr (Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford University), who himself does not believe Genesis is true history, nonetheless admitted as far as the language of Genesis 1 is concerned that:



‘ … so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Gen. 1–11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that (a) creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience (b) the figures contained in the Genesis genealogies provided by simple addition a chronology from the beginning of the world up to later stages in the biblical story (c) Noah’s Flood was understood to be world-wide and extinguish all human and animal life except for those in the ark.’16



In like manner, nineteenth century liberal Professor Marcus Dods, New College, Edinburgh, said:



‘ … if, for example, the word “day” in these chapters does not mean a period of twenty-four hours, the interpretation of Scripture is hopeless.’17



Conclusion



If we are prepared to let the words of the language speak to us in accord with the context and normal definitions, without being influenced by outside ideas, then the word for ‘day’ in Genesis 1—which is qualified by a number, the phrase ‘evening and morning,’ and for day one the words ‘light and darkness’—obviously means an ordinary day (about 24 hours).



In Martin Luther’s day, some of the church fathers were saying that God created everything in only one day, or in an instant. Martin Luther wrote:



‘When Moses writes that God created Heaven and Earth and whatever is in them in six days, then let this period continue to have been six days, and do not venture to devise any comment according to which six days were one day. But, if you cannot understand how this could have been done in six days, then grant the Holy Spirit the honor of being more learned than you are. For you are to deal with Scripture in such a way that you bear in mind that God Himself says what is written. But since God is speaking, it is not fitting for you wantonly to turn His Word in the direction you wish to go.’18



Similarly, John Calvin stated: ‘ … albeit the duration of the world, now declining to its ultimate end, has not yet attained six thousand years … God’s work was completed not in a moment but in six days.’19



Luther and Calvin were the backbone of the Protestant Reformation that called the Church back to Scripture—Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone). Both of these men were adamant that Genesis 1 taught six ordinary days of creation—only thousands of years ago.









WHY SIX DAYS?



Exodus 31:12 says that God commanded Moses to say to the Children of Israel:



‘Six days may work be done, but on the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16Therefore the sons of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations, for an everlasting covenant. 17It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed.’ (Ex. 31:15–17)



‘Then God gave Moses two tablets of stone upon which were written the commandments of God, written by the finger of God.’ (Ex. 31:18)



Because God is infinite in power, and wisdom, there’s no doubt He could have created the universe and its contents in no time at all, or six seconds, or six minutes, or six hours—after all, ‘with God nothing shall be impossible’ (Luke 1:37).



However, the question to ask is, ‘Why did God take so long? Why as long as six days?’ The answer is also given in Exodus 20:11, and that answer is the basis of the fourth commandment:



‘For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and sanctified it.’



The seven-day week has no basis outside of Scripture. In this Old Testament passage, God commands His people, Israel, to work for six days and rest for one—that is why He deliberately took as long as six days to create everything. He set the example for man. Our week is patterned after this principle. Now if He created everything in six thousand, or six million years, followed by a rest of one thousand or one million years, then we would have a very interesting week indeed!



Some say that Exodus 20:11 is only an analogy in the sense that man is to work and rest—not that it was to mean six literal ordinary days followed by one literal ordinary day. However, Bible scholars have shown that this commandment ‘does not use analogy or archetypal thinking but that its emphasis is “stated in terms of the imitation of God or a divine precedent that is to be followed.”’20 In other words, it was to be six literal days of work, followed by one literal day of rest, just as God worked for six literal days and rested for one.



Some have argued that ‘the heavens and the earth’ is just Earth and perhaps the solar system, not the whole universe. However, this verse clearly says that God made everything in six days—six consecutive ordinary days, just like the commandment in the previous verse to work for six consecutive, ordinary days.



The phrase ‘heaven(s) and earth’ in Scripture is an example of a figure of speech called a merism, where two opposites are combined into an all-encompassing single concept, in this case the totality of creation. A linguistic analysis of the words ‘heaven(s) and earth’ in Scripture shows that they refer to the totality of all creation (the Hebrews did not have a word for ‘universe’). For example, in Genesis 14:19 God is called ‘Creator of heaven and earth.’ In Jeremiah 23:24 God speaks of himself as filling ‘heaven and earth.’ See also Gen. 14:22, 2 Kings 19:15, 2 Chron. 2:12, Ps. 115:15, 121:2, 124:8, 134:3, 146:6, Is. 37:16.



Thus there is no scriptural warrant for restricting Ex. 20:11 to the earth and its atmosphere, or the solar system alone. So Ex. 20:11 does show that the whole universe was created in six ordinary days.





Implication



As the days of creation are ordinary days in length, then by adding up the years in Scripture (assuming no gaps in the genealogies21) the age of the universe is only about six thousand years.22



Objections to literal days in Genesis 1



Objection 1

‘Science’ has shown the earth and universe are billions of years old, therefore the ‘days’ of creation must be long periods (or indefinite periods) of time.



Answer



a) The age of the earth as determined by man’s fallible methods is based on unproved assumptions, so it is not proven that the earth is billions of years old.23–29



b) This unproved age is being used to force an interpretation on the language of the Bible. Thus, man’s fallible theories are allowed to interpret the Bible. This ultimately undermines the use of language to communicate.



c) Evolutionary scientists claim the fossil layers over the earth’s surface date back hundreds of millions of years. As soon as one allows millions of years for the fossil layers—then one has accepted death, bloodshed, disease, thorns and suffering before Adam’s sin.



The Bible makes it clear30–35 that death, bloodshed, disease, thorns and suffering are a consequence of sin.36 In Genesis 1:29–30, God gave Adam and Eve and the animals plants to eat (this is reading Genesis and taking it at face value, as literal history, as Jesus did in Matt. 19:3–6). In fact, there is a theological distinction made between animals and plants. Human beings and higher animals are described in Genesis 1 as having a ‘nephesh,’ or life principle. (This is true of at least the vertebrate land animals as well as the birds and fish: Gen. 1:20,24.) Plants do not have this ‘nephesh’—they are not ‘alive’ in the same sense animals are. They were given for food.



Man was permitted to eat meat only after the Flood (Gen. 9:3)—this also makes it obvious that the statements in Genesis 1:29–30 were meant to inform us that man and the animals were vegetarian to start with. Also in Genesis 9:2 we are told of a change God made in the way animals react to man.



God warned Adam in Genesis 2:17, that if he ate of the ‘tree of the knowledge of good and evil,’ he would ‘die.’ The Hebrew grammar actually means, ‘dying, you will die.’ In other words, it would be the commencement of a process of physical dying. It also clearly involved spiritual death (separation from God).



After Adam disobeyed God, the Lord clothed Adam and Eve with ‘coats of skins’ (Gen. 3:21).37 To do this He must have killed and shed the blood of at least one animal. The reason for this can be summed up by Hebrews 9:22:



‘And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.’



God requires the shedding of blood for the remission of sins. What happened in the garden was a picture of what was to come in Jesus Christ, who shed His blood on the cross as ‘the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world’ (John 1:29).



Now if the garden were sitting on a fossil record of dead things millions of years old, then there was the shedding of blood before sin. This would destroy the foundation of the atonement. The Bible is clear: the sin of Adam brought death and suffering into the world. As Romans 8:19–22 tells us, the whole of creation ‘groans’ because of the effects of the Fall of Adam, and will be liberated ‘from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God’ (verse 21). Also, bear in mind that thorns came into existence after the Curse. Because there are thorns in the fossil record, it had to be formed after Adam and Eve sinned.



The pronouncement of the death penalty on Adam was both a curse and a blessing. A curse because death is horrible and continually reminds us of the ugliness of sin; a blessing because the consequences of sin—separation from fellowship with God—need not be eternal. Death stopped Adam and his descendants from living in a state of sin, with all its consequences, forever. And because death was the just penalty for sin, Jesus Christ suffered physical death, shedding His blood, to release Adam’s descendants from the consequences of sin. The Apostle Paul discusses this in depth in Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15.



Revelation chapters 21 and 22 make it clear that there will be a ‘new heaven and a new earth’ one day where there will be ‘no more death’ and ‘no more curse’—just like before sin changed everything. If there are to be animals as part of the new earth, obviously they will not be dying or eating each other, or eating the redeemed people!



Thus, adding the supposed millions of years to Scripture destroys the foundations of the message of the cross.



Objection 2



According to Genesis 1, the sun was not created until day four. How could there be day and night (ordinary days) without the sun for the first three days?



Answer



a) Again, it is important for us to let the language of God’s Word speak to us. If we come to Genesis 1 without any outside influences, as has been shown, each of the six days of creation appears with the Hebrew word yom qualified by a number, and the phrase ‘evening and morning.’ The first three days are written the same way as the next three. So if we let the language speak to us—all six days were ordinary Earth days.



b) The sun is not needed for day and night! What is needed is light and a rotating Earth. On the first day of creation, God made light (Gen. 1:3). The phrase ‘evening and morning’ certainly implies a rotating Earth. Thus if we have light from one direction, and a spinning Earth, there can be day and night.



Where did the light come from?



We are not told,38 but Genesis 1:3 certainly indicates it was a created light to provide day and night until God made the sun on day four to rule the day He had made. Revelation 21:23 tells us that one day the sun will not be needed, as the glory of God will light the heavenly city.



Perhaps one reason God did it this way was to illustrate that the sun did not have the priority in the creation that people have tended to give it. The sun did not give birth to the earth as evolutionary theories postulate; the sun was God’s created tool to rule the day that God had made (Gen. 1:16).



Down through the ages people, such as the Egyptians, have worshipped the sun. God warned the Israelites in Deuteronomy 4:19 not to worship the sun like the pagan cultures around them did. They were commanded to worship the God who made the sun—not the sun that was made by God.



Evolutionary theories (the ‘big bang’ hypothesis for instance) state that the sun came before the earth, and that the sun’s energy on the earth eventually gave rise to life. Just as in pagan beliefs, the sun is, in a sense, given credit for the wonder of creation.



It is interesting to contrast the speculations of modern cosmology with the writings of the early church father, Theophilus:



‘On the fourth day the luminaries came into existence. Since God has foreknowledge, he understood the nonsense of the foolish philosophers who were going to say that the things produced on earth came from the stars, so that they might set God aside. In order therefore that the truth might be demonstrated, plants and seeds came into existence before stars. For what comes into existence later cannot cause what is prior to it.’39



Objection 3



2 Peter 3:8 states ‘that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,’ therefore, the days of creation could be long periods of time.



Answer



a) This passage has no creation context—it is not referring to Genesis or the six days of creation.



b) This verse has what is called a ‘comparative article’—‘as’ or ‘like’—which is not found in Genesis 1. In other words, it is not saying a day is a thousand years—it is comparing a real, literal day to a real, literal thousand years. The context of this passage is the Second Coming of Christ. It is saying that to God, a day is like a thousand years, because God is outside of time. God is not limited by natural processes and time as humans are. What may seem like a long time to us (waiting for the Second Coming) is nothing to Him. What to us may seem to be a long time, or a short time, is nothing to God, either way.



c) The second part of the verse reads ‘and a thousand years as one day,’ which in essence cancels out the first part of the verse for those who want to equate a day with a thousand years! Thus it cannot be saying a day is a thousand years or vice versa.



d) Psalm 90:4 states: ‘For a thousand years in your sight are as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.’ Here a thousand years is being compared with a ‘watch in the night’ (4 hours40). As the phrase ‘watch in the night’ is joined in a particular way to ‘yesterday’—it is saying that a thousand years is being compared with a short period of time—not simply to a day.



e) If one used this passage to claim that ‘day’ in the Bible means a thousand years, then to be consistent, one would have to say that Jonah was in the belly of the fish three thousand years, or that Jesus has not yet risen from the dead!



Objection 4



Insisting on six solar days for creation limits God, whereas allowing God billions of years does not limit Him.



Answer



Actually, insisting on six ordinary Earth days of creation is not limiting God, but limiting us to believing that God actually did what He tells us in His Word. Also, if God created everything in six days, like the Bible says, then surely this reveals the power and wisdom of God in a profound way—Almighty God did not need eons of time! However, the billions of years scenarios diminish God by suggesting that mere chance could create things, or that God needed huge amounts of time to create things.



Objection 5



Adam could not have accomplished all that the Bible states in one day (day six). He could not have named all the animals, for instance; there was not enough time.



Answer:



Adam did not have to name all the animals—only those God brought to him. For instance, Adam was commanded to name ‘every beast of the field’ (Genesis 2:20), not ‘beast of the earth’ (Genesis 1:25). The phrase ‘beast of the field’ is most likely a subset of the larger group ‘beast of the earth.’ He did not have to name ‘everything that creeps upon the earth’ (Genesis 1:25), or any of the sea creatures. Also the number of ‘kinds’ would be much less than the number of ‘species’ in today’s classification (see Noah's Flood—what about all that water?).



When critics say that Adam could not name the animals in less than one day, what they really mean is they do not understand how they could do it, so Adam could not. However, our brain has suffered from six thousand years of the Curse—it has been greatly affected by the Fall. Before sin, Adam’s brain was perfect.



When God made Adam, He must have programmed him with a perfect language. Today we program computers to ‘speak’ and ‘remember.’ How much more could our Creator God have created Adam as a mature human (he was not born as a baby needing to learn to speak), having in his memory cells a perfect language with a perfect understanding of each word. (That is why Adam understood what God meant when He said he would ‘die’ if he disobeyed, even though he had not seen any death.) Adam may also have had a ‘perfect’ memory (something like a photographic memory, perhaps).



It would have been no problem for this first perfect man to make up words and name the animals God brought to him and remember the names—in far less than one day.41



Objection 6



Genesis chapter 2 is a different account of creation, with a different order, so how can the first chapter be accepted as teaching six literal days?



Answer:



Actually, Genesis chapter 2 is not a different account of creation. It is a more detailed account of day six of creation. Chapter 1 is an overview of the whole of creation; chapter 2 gives details surrounding the creation of the garden, the first man, and his activities on day six.42,43



Between the creation of Adam and the creation of Eve, the KJV/AV Bible says (Gen. 2:19) ‘out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every fowl of the air.’ This seems to say that the land beasts and birds were created between Adam and Eve. However, Jewish scholars did not recognize any such conflict with the account in chapter 1, where Adam and Eve were both created after the beasts and birds (Gen. 1:23–25). There is no contradiction, because in Hebrew the precise tense of a verb is determined by the context. It is clear from chapter 1 that the beasts and birds were created before Adam, so Jewish scholars would have understood the verb ‘formed’ in Genesis 2:19 to mean ‘had formed’ or ‘having formed.’ If we translate verse 19 thus: ‘Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field … ’ the apparent disagreement with Genesis 1 disappears completely.



Regarding the plants and herbs in Genesis 2:5 and the trees in Genesis 2:9 (compare with Gen. 1:12), the plants and herbs are described as ‘of the field’ in Genesis chapter 2 and they needed a man to tend them (2:5). These are clearly cultivated plants, not just plants in general (Gen. 1). Also, the trees (2:9) are only the trees planted in the garden, not trees in general.



In Matthew 19:3–6 Jesus Christ quotes from both Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:24 when referring to the same man and woman in teaching the doctrine of marriage. Clearly, Jesus saw them as complementary accounts, not contradictory ones.



Objection 7



There is no ‘evening and morning’ for the seventh day of the creation week (Gen. 2:2), thus we must still be in the ‘seventh day,’ so none of the days can be ordinary days.



Answer



Look again at the previous section entitled ‘Why six days?’ Exodus 20:11 makes it clear that there were seven literal days —six for work, and one for rest.



Also, God stated that He ‘rested’ from his work of creation (not that He is resting!). The fact that He rested from his work of creation, does not preclude Him from continuing to rest from this activity. God’s work now is different—it is a work of sustaining His creation, and of reconciliation and redemption because of man’s sin.



The word yom is qualified by a number (Gen. 2:2,3), so the context still determines it is an ordinary solar day. Also, God blessed this seventh day and made it holy. In Genesis 3:17–19 we read of the curse on the earth because of sin. Paul refers to this in Romans 8:22. It does not make sense that God would call this day holy and blessed if he cursed the ground on this ‘day.’ We live in a sin-cursed earth—we are not in the seventh blessed holy day!



Note: In arguing that the seventh day is not an ordinary day because it is not associated with ‘evening and morning’ like the other days, proponents are tacitly agreeing that the other six days are ordinary days because they are defined by an evening and a morning!



Some have argued that Hebrews 4:3–4 implies that the seventh day is continuing today. However, verse 4 reiterates that God rested (past tense) on the seventh day. Also, only those who have believed in Christ will enter that rest, showing that it is a spiritual rest, which is compared with God’s rest since the creation week. It is not some sort of continuation of the seventh day (otherwise everyone would be ‘in’ this rest).44



Hebrews does not say that the seventh day of creation week is continuing today, merely that His rest is continuing. If someone says on Monday that he rested on Friday and is still resting, this would not suggest that Friday continued through to Monday!



Objection 8



Genesis 2:4 states ‘In the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.’ As this refers to all six days of creation, it shows that the word day does not mean an ordinary day.



Answer:



The Hebrew word yom as used here is not qualified by a number, the phrase ‘evening and morning,’ light, or darkness. In this context, the verse really means ‘In the time God created’ (referring to the creation week) or, ‘When God created.’



Other problems with long days and similar interpretations

If the plants made on day three were separated by millions of years from the birds and nectar bats (created day 5), and insects (created day six) necessary for their pollination, then such plants could not have survived. This problem would be especially acute for species with complex symbiotic relationships (each depending on the other; e.g. Yucca plant and moth45).



Adam was created on day six, lived through day seven, and then died when he was 930 years old (Gen. 5:5). If each day were a thousand years, or millions of years, this would make no sense of Adam’s age at death!



Some have claimed that the word for ‘made’ (asah) in Exodus 20:11 actually means ‘show.’ They propose that God showed or revealed the information about creation to Moses during a six-day period. This allows for the creation itself to have occurred over millions of years. However, ‘showed’ is not a valid translation for asah. Its meaning covers ‘to make, manufacture, produce, do’ etc., but not ‘to show’ in the sense of reveal.46 Where asah is translated as ‘show’—for example, ‘show kindness’ (Gen. 24:12), it is in the sense of ‘to do’ or ‘make’ kindness.



Some have claimed that because the word asah is used for the creation of the sun, moon and stars on day 4, and not the word bara which is used in Genesis 1:1 for create, that this means God only revealed the sun, moon and stars at this stage. They insist the word asah has the meaning of ‘revealed.’ In other words, the luminaries were supposedly already in existence, and were only revealed at this stage. However, bara and asah are used in Scripture to describe the same event. For example, asah is used in Exodus 20:11 to refer to the creation of the heavens and the earth, but bara is used to refer to the creation of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1:1. The word asah is used concerning the creation of the first people in Genesis 1:26—they did not previously exist. And then they are said to have been created (bara) in Genesis 1:27. There are many other similar examples. Asah has a broad range of meanings involving ‘to do’ or ‘to make,’ which includes bara creation (see What about the ‘Gap Theory’? for more on asah and bara).



Some accept that the days of creation are ordinary days as far as the language of Genesis is concerned, but not as literal days of history as far as man is concerned. This is basically the view called the ‘Framework Hypothesis.’47,48 This is a very complex view which has been thoroughly refuted by scholars.49–51



The real purpose of the ‘Framework Hypothesis’ can be seen in the following quote from an article by one of its proponents:



‘To rebut the literalist interpretation of the Genesis creation “week” propounded by the young-earth theorists is a central concern of this article.’48



Some people want the days of creation to be long periods in an attempt to harmonize evolution or billions of years with the Bible’s account of origins. However the order of events according to long-age beliefs does not agree with that of Genesis.



Consider the following table:



Contradictions between the order of Creation in the Bible and Evolution/Day-ages--



Biblical account of creation ----Evolutionary/long-age

speculation

Earth before the sun and stars--Stars and sun before earth

Earth covered in water initially--Earth a molten blob initially

Oceans first, then dry land--Dry land then the oceans

Life first created on the land--Life started in the oceans

Plants created before the sun-Plants came long after the sun

Land animals created after birds--Land animals existed

before birds

Whales before land animals--Land animals before whales







Clearly, those who do not accept the six literal days are the ones reading into the passage their own preconceived ideas.





Long-age compromises



Other than the ‘gap theory,’ (which is covered in What about the ‘Gap Theory’?, ) the major compromise positions that try to harmonize long ages and/or evolution with Genesis fall into two categories:



‘theistic evolution,’ wherein God supposedly directed the evolutionary process of millions of years, or even just set it up and let it run, and



‘progressive creation’ where God supposedly intervened in the processes of death and struggle for survival to create millions of species at various times over the millions of years.



All long-age compromises reject Noah’s Flood as a global Flood—it could only be a local event, because the fossil layers are accepted as evidence for millions of years. A global Flood would have destroyed this record and produced another! Therefore these positions cannot allow a catastrophic global Flood that would form layers of fossil bearing rocks over the earth. This of course goes against Scripture, which obviously teaches a global Flood (Gen. 6–9).52



Does it really matter?



Yes, it does matter what a Christian believes concerning the days of creation in Genesis 1. Most importantly, all schemes which insert eons of time into or before creation undermine the Gospel by putting death, bloodshed, disease, thorns and suffering before sin and the Fall, as explained above (see Answer to Objection 1 above). Here are two more reasons:



It is really a matter of how one approaches the Bible, in principle. If we do not allow the language to speak to us in context, but try to make the text fit ideas outside of Scripture, then ultimately the meaning of any word in any part of the Bible depends on man’s interpretation —which can change according to whatever outside ideas are in vogue.



If one allows ‘science’ (which has wrongly become synonymous with evolution and materialism) to determine our understanding of Scripture, then this can lead to a slippery slope of unbelief through the rest of Scripture. For instance, ‘science’ would proclaim that a person cannot be raised from the dead. Does this mean we should ‘interpret’ the resurrection of Christ to reflect this? Sadly, some do just this, saying that the resurrection simply means that Jesus’ teachings live on in His followers!



When people accept at face value what Genesis is teaching, and accept the days as ordinary days, they will have no problem accepting and making sense of the rest of the Bible.



Martin Luther once said:



‘I have often said that whoever would study Holy Scripture should be sure to see to it that he stays with the simple words as long as he can and by no means departs from them unless an article of faith compels him to understand them differently. For of this we must be certain: no clearer speech has been heard on Earth than what God has spoken.’53



Pure words

God’s people need to realize that the Word of God is something very special. It is not just the words of men. As Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 2:13, ‘you received it not as the word of men, but as it is, truly the word of God.’



Proverbs 30:5–6 states that ‘Every word of God is pure … do not add to His words, lest He reprove you and you be found a liar.’ The Bible cannot be treated as just some great literary work. We need to ‘tremble at his word’ (Isa. 66:5) and not forget that:



‘All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfected, thoroughly equipped for every good work.’ (2 Timothy 3:16–17)



In the original autographs, every word and letter in the Bible is there because God put it there. Let us listen to God speaking to us through His Word, and not arrogantly think we can tell God what He really means!



References and notes

Van Bebber, M. and Taylor, P.S., Creation and Time: A Report on the Progressive Creationist Book by Hugh Ross, Films for Christ, Mesa, Arizona, 1994.

Hasel, G.F., The ‘days’ of creation in Genesis 1: literal ‘days’ or figurative ‘periods/epochs’ of time?, Origins 21(1):5–38, 1994.

Luther, M., as cited in Plass, E.M., What Martin Luther Says, a Practical In-Home Anthology for the Active Christian, Concordia Publishing House, St. Louis, Missouri, p. 1523, 1991.

Archer, G.L., A Survey of Old Testament Introduction, Moody Press, Chicago, Illinois, pp. 196–197, 1994.

Boice, J.M., Genesis, An Expositional Commentary, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Vol. 1, Genesis 1:1–11, p. 68, 1982.

Spurgeon, C.H., The Sword and the Trowel, p. 197, 1877.

Berkhof, Louis, Introductory volume to Systematic Theology, pp. 60, 96.

Brown, Driver and Briggs, A Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament, Clarendon Press, Oxford, p. 398, 1951.

Some say that Hosea 6:2 is an exception to this, because of the figurative language. However, the Hebrew idiomatic expression used, ‘After two days ... in the third day ... ,’ meaning ‘in a short time,’ only makes sense if ‘day’ is understood in its normal sense. See Ref. 1, pp. 74–5, for a more details.

Stambaugh, James, The days of creation: A semantic approach, Proc. Evangelical Society’s Far West Region Meeting, The Master’s Seminary, Sun Valley, California, April 26, p.12, 1996.

The Jews start their day in the evening (sundown followed by night)—obviously based on the fact that Genesis begins the day with the ‘evening.’

Stambaugh, Ref. 10, p. 15.

Stambaugh, Ref. 10, p. 72.

Stambaugh, Ref. 10, pp. 72–73.

Stambaugh, Ref. 10, pp. 73–74.

Grigg, Russell, How long were the days of Genesis 1?, Creation 19(1):23–25, 1996.

Barr, James, Letter to David C.C. Watson, April 23, 1984.

Dods, M., Expositor’s Bible, T & T Clark, Edinburgh, p. 4., 1888, as cited by Kelly, D.F., Creation and Change, Christian Focus Publications, Fearn, U.K., p. 112, 1997.

Plass, Ref. 3, p. 1523.

McNeil, J.T. (ed.), Calvin: Institutes of the Christian Religion 1, The Westminster Press, pp. 160–161, 182, 1960.

Hasel, Ref. 2, p. 29

Whitcomb, J.C. and Morris, H.M., The Genesis Flood, Presbyterian and Reformed Publ. Co., Phillipsburg, New Jersey. Appendix II, p. 481–483, 1961. They allow for the possibility of gaps in the genealogies because the word ‘begat’ can skip generations. However, they point out that even allowing for gaps would give a maximum age of around 10,000 years.

Pierce, L., The forgotten archbishop, Creation 20(2):42–43, 1998. Ussher carried out a very scholarly work in adding up all the years in Scripture to obtain a date of creation of 4004 B.C. Ussher has been mocked for stating that creation occurred on October 23rd—he obtained this date by working backwards using the Jewish civil year and accounting for how the year and month etc., were derived over the years. Thus he didn’t just pull this date out of the air, but gave a scholarly mathematical basis for it. This is not to say this is the correct date, as there are assumptions involved, but the point is his work is not to be scoffed at. Ussher did not specify the hour of the day for creation as some skeptics assert. Young’s Analytical Concordance, under ‘creation,’ lists many other authorities, including extra-biblical ones, who all give a date for creation of less than 10,000 years ago.

Morris, H.M. and Morris, J.D., Science, Scripture, and the Young Earth, Institute for Creation Research, El Cajon, California. pp. 39–44, 1989.

Morris, J.D., The Young Earth, Master Books, Green Forest, Arkansas, pp. 51–67, 1996.

Austin, S.A., Grand Canyon: Monument to the Flood, Institute for Creation Research., Santee, California. pp. 111–131, 1994.

Humphreys, D.R., Starlight and Time, Master Books, Green Forest, Arkansas, Appendix C, 1996.

‘Progress Towards a Young-Earth Relativistic Cosmology’ Proc. 3rd ICC, Pittsburg, PA., pp. 83–133.

Wieland, C., Creation in the physics lab (interview with Dr Russell Humphreys), Creation 15(3):20–23, 1993.

Taylor, I.T., In the Minds of Men, TFE Publ., Toronto, pp. 295–322, 1984.

See also What about carbon dating? and Does God exist?.

Ham, K., The Lie: Evolution, Master Books, Green Forest, Arkansas, Introduction, pp. xiii–xiv, 1987.

Ham, K., The necessity for believing in six literal days, Creation 18(1):38–41, 1996.

Ham, K., The wrong way round!, Creation 18(3):38–41, 1996.

Ham, K., Fathers, promises and Vegemite, Creation 19(1):14–17, 1997.

Ham, K., The narrow road, Creation 19(2):47–49, 1997.

Ham, K., Millions of years and the ‘doctrine of Balaam,’ Creation 19(3):15–17, 1997.

Gill, John, A Body of Doctrinal and Practical Divinity, republished by Primitive Baptist Library, 1980, p. 191, 1760. This is not just a new idea from modern scholars. In 1760, John Gill in his commentaries insisted there was no death, bloodshed, disease or suffering before sin.

All Eve’s progeny, except the God-man Jesus Christ, were born with original sin (Rom. 5:12,18–19), so Eve could not have conceived when she was sinless. So the Fall must have occurred fairly quickly, before Eve had conceived any children (they were told to ‘be fruitful and multiply’).

Some people ask why God did not tell us the source of this light. However, if God told us everything, we would have so many books we would not have time to read them. God has given us all the information we need to come to the right conclusions about the things that really matter.

Lavallee, L., The early church defended creation science, Impact, No. 160, p. ii, 1986. Quote from, Theophilus, ‘To Autolycus,’ 2.8, Oxford Early Christian Texts.

The Jews had three watches during the night (sunset to 10 p.m.; 10 p.m.– 2.00 a.m.; 2.00 a.m.–sunrise), but the Romans had four watches, beginning at 6.00 p.m.

Grigg, R., Naming the animals: all in a day’s work for Adam, Creation 18(4):46–49, 1996.

Batten, D., Genesis contradictions?, Creation 18(4):44–45, 1996.

Kruger, M.J., An understanding of Genesis 2:5, CEN Technical Journal 11(1):106–110, 1997.

Anon., Is the seventh day an eternal day?, Creation 21(3):44–45, 1999.

Meldau, F.J., Why We Believe in Creation Not in Evolution, Christian Victory Publ. Co., Denver, Colorado, pp. 114–116, 1972.

Nothing in Gesenius’ Lexicon supports the interpretation of asah as ‘show.’ See Taylor, Charles V., Revelation or creation?, 1997.

Kline, M.G., Because it had not rained, Westminster Theological Journal 20:146–157, 1957–1958.

Kline, M.G., Space and time in the Genesis cosmology, Perspectives on Science & Christian Faith 48(1), 1996.

Kruger, Ref. 43, pp. 106–110.

Pipa, J.A., From chaos to cosmos: a critique of the Framework Hypothesis, 1996. Presented at the Far-Western Regional Annual Meeting of The Evangelical Theological Society, USA, April 26, 1996.

Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology, pp. 302–305, summarizes the Framework Hypothesis and its problems and inconsistencies.

Van Bebber, M. and Taylor, P.S., Ref. 1. pp. 55–59, 1994. See also Ref. 21, pp. 212–330. Also see Was Noah's Flood Global?

Plass, Ref. 3, p. 93.





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