Question:
Christians.........................?
anonymous
2009-04-25 07:17:50 UTC
Christians please answer this, and actualy READ it before you answer please

Here are two people that lived BEFORE Jesus was even born.

Mithra (lived a few hundred years BEFORE Jesus was born.
Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds.
He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
He had 12 companions or disciples.
Mithra's followers were promised immortality.
He performed miracles.
As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again.
His resurrection was celebrated every year.
He was called "the Good Shepherd" and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
He was considered the "Way, the Truth and the Light," and the "Logos," "Redeemer," "Savior" and "Messiah."
His sacred day was Sunday, the "Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
Mithra had his principal festival of what was later to become Easter.
His religion had a eucharist or "Lord's Supper," at which Mithra said, "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."
"His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement or pledge of moral and physical regeneration."
Shmuel Golding is quoted as saying that 1 Cor. 10:4 is "identical words to those found in the Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ


Horus, simialrities with Jesus
Jesus and Horus (Egyptian god)
Both a god
Both a son of a god
Both born of a virgin
Both birthdays 12/25
Both performed miracles
Both healed the sick and the blind
Both raised Lazarus from the dead
Both walked on water
Both died on a cross
Between 2 thieves
Both descended into hell (Jesus did in biblical works not included in bible)
Both ascended into heaven on the 3rd day

What makes you sure Jesus is real and these two not? Just intrested
Thirteen answers:
EyeLovesJesus
2009-04-27 07:05:05 UTC
Hello ((((((( Stanley )))))))



I could provide an answer from a search on the net, but you may not accept it..



So all I can do is provide my own testimony, as to how I know that "Jesus" is the Son of God and Mithra and Horus are not..



When I was at the lowest point in my life, I called out for help!!



If Mithra or Horus were the Son of God..then they turned their backs on me.. :(



"Jesus" did not turn His back on me..He answered my plea.. :)



It was "Jesus" that turned my life around..



He took away all the hate, anger, selfishness and bigotry..



Then He replaced it with ~Love~ Peace, Joy, Gentleness, Kindness and a humble heart.. :)



That is how I know without any doubt the "Jesus" is the Son of God.. :)





((((((( HUGS )))))))





In Jesus Most Precious Name..

With ~Love~ In Christ.. :)
anonymous
2009-04-25 15:01:52 UTC
This thing about Mithra must be mythology which is not true, only a bunch of stories.



It can't be true. It was made up in order to dissuade people from believing in Jesus as the true Son of God, the Savior of the world. The devil has done many many things to either destroy the Bible, destroy God's people or to deceive everyone in some way to not believe in the truth. No one (but Jesus) was ever born of a virgin unless the mother had artificial insemination without ever having sex. Of course we know that no such thing happened in those days.



Read the prophecies about Jesus in Isaiah 7:14, 9:2, 6-7, 11:1-5, 52:13-15; 53:1-12, Micah 5:2, Ps. 22, 69. I hope you get a Bible as soon as possible!



Micah 5:2 says Jesus was born in Bethlehem by the way and this was confirmed in Matthew 2:1.
XY GTHO
2009-04-25 07:29:13 UTC
C.S. Lewis wrote a bit on this. I guess if you can google for Mithra, I can quote someone.



"But if my religion is true, then these stories may well be a preparatio evangelica, a divine hinting in poetic and ritual form at the same central truth which was later focused and (so to speak) historicised in the Incarnation. ... I could not believe Christianity if I were forced to say that there were a thousand religions in the world of which 999 were pure nonsense and the thousandth (fortunately) true. My conversion, very largely, depended on recognizing Christianity as the completion, the actualization, the entelechy, of something that had never been wholly absent from the mind of man."



"We must not be ashamed of the mythical radiance resting on our theology. We must not be nervous about “parallels” and “pagan Christs”.
Jeancommunicates
2009-04-25 07:48:24 UTC
Satan was in the Garden of Eden and Satan knew that he would bruise Jesus' heal and Jesus would crush his head. God said that in the Garden. God said in the Bible, that He does nothing unless He tells His prophets first.



Mithraism became popular in the 1st and 4th Century AD as did many false religions.



Noah's grandson Nimrod who built Babel (Babylon) had a wife named Semiramis and son named Tammuz. This old evil queen of heaven as she was called spawned many gods and goddesses and their false religions. Noah spoke of the world before the flood and God's plan.



Egypt had many gods and goddesses, not just Horus. For this reason, God gave Moses a staff that was more powerful than the Egyptian priests' staffs. God showed Pharaoh that his gods and goddesses were not able to help him. God made a mockery of these false idol gods and took the Hebrew people out of bondage.



Satan set up your Mithra and Horus and all other false religions in this world. Satan is very knowledgeable and very old and very powerful. Satan is the god of this world, but Satan is also a defeated foe. Jesus triumphed over Satan and took the keys of death and hades from Satan.



What makes me know that Jesus is the Son of God and Mithra and Horus are not?



The "martyrs" my friend, the martyrs. Just recently a little girl in Columbine High School when asked if she was a Christian was killed for her "yes" answer. Those 2 young men were so possessed of Satan that they spouted hateful words concerning Jesus.



Who has ever died for Mithra or Horus - both false?



Another proof of Jesus as the Son of God is the Jews. Jesus said that He would not return until they said, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord." Many Jews are recognizing Christ as God in human flesh today. The bible said, that God would regather the Jews and return them to their land and they would become a people in one day. In 1948, in one day the UN established the Jewish homeland of Israel. Before airplanes were invented the Bible said they would return on wings of eagles and they returned on airplanes.



Has any man ever died for Mithra? Has any man ever died for Horus?



Jesus Christ is Lord and the Son of God and God in human flesh.
?
2009-04-25 07:23:18 UTC
Jesus wasnt born on December 25th, that is just the day that was chosen to celebrate His birthday. Jesus was born in late September early October
?
2009-04-25 07:24:12 UTC
LOL your accounts of these ancient Gods is inaccurate. After Jesus began to get popular practitioners of these ancient religions in an effort to increase their sphere of influence made these claims even though anyone who knew their actual histories would know it wasn't so.



You can get more info here http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/pagint.html



I LOL at your Horus and Mithras comparison 1st thing written -"both a God" and your 5th -"Both performed miracles" duh they said their God performed miracles? Thats really rare! You got me that time. Does your God perform miracles? uh yeah cause you know he's like God and stuff. You go into almost any faith and the deity probably performed a miracle.



Did you know Mithras was born an adult on dec 25? And the sheperds helped him out of the rock that he was born from (not like Jesus born of a woman where sheperds WITNESSED his birth)



Mithras was a great traveling teacher-so was every other prophet in existence (muhamed, various judeo-christian prophets, etc.) DUH!



Mithras had 12 companions - their isnt any proof of that they prove 2 people (twins) and various animals (still doesnt add to 12)



Mithras followers were promised immortallity- really? Whoa! Now that is some uniques spiritual stuff. I mean really Mithras followers were probably the first to ever say something like that.



As "the great bull of the sun Mithras sacrificed himself for world peace. THESE ARENT EVEN YOUR WORDS OR THOUGHTS YOU ARE A PARROT I WILL NOW START TO PARROT ANSWERS BACK.



As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.

This description is rather spun out into a sound-alike of Christian belief, but behind the vagueness lies a different story. Mithra did not "sacrifice himself" in the sense that he died; he was not the "great bull of the Sun", but rather, he killed the bull (attempts to somehow identify Mithra with the very bull he slayed, although popular with outdated non-Mithraists like Loisy and Bunsen, were rejected by Vermaseren, who said that "neither the temples nor the inscriptions give any definite evidence to support this view and only future finds can confirm it" [Verm.MSG, 103]; it was not for the sake of "world peace" (except, perhaps, in the sense that Cumont interpreted the bull-slaying as a creation myth [***.MM, 193], in which he was entirely wrong). Mithra could only be said to have "sacrificed himself" in the sense that he went out and took a risk to do a heroic deed; the rest finds no justification at all in modern Mithraic studies literature -- much less does it entail a parallel to Christ, who sacrificed himself for atonement from personal sin (not "world peace").



Mithras died and rose again. Then why was it written "there is "no death of Mithras" -- Gor.III, 96"???? Whoa that doesnt make any sense?



Mithras I.D. himself with the lion and the lamb. No it was only the lion (sun god=leo=lion) no lamb. However lets pretend he did...



The lion and the lamb come from jewish scriptures DUH! WayDuh beforeDuh JesusDuh andDuh MithrasDuh. Ever hear of "The lion of Judah"???????? I wish I could write duh in every language right now!



Mithras was the way and truth and yadda yadda this exist in nearly every deity.



Mithras day was the lords day before christ. When a Roman ruler came into power that day was THEIR day. Christians use this and the idea of the first fruits for worshiping on sunday (Jesus rose [came into power] on a sunday!) Sunday is the 1st day of the week, it is the first day you "harvest" of the week so many "give" it to God.



Mithras Lords supper is not proven to be prechristianity the text found was in medevil times (well after christtianity had been established) they coppied us unless a dated document can prove otherwise.



"His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement or pledge of moral and physical regeneration."

This is rather a confused statement, for it compounds an apparent falsity (I have found no indication that Mithra's "sacrifice" was annual, rather than a once-in-the-past event); it uses terms from Judeo-Christian belief ("passover", "atonement") to describe a rite from Mithraism, without showing any similarities at all. I see this as little more than a case of illicitly applying terminology, and until more detail is provided, it can be regarded as little else.



Shmuel Golding is quoted as saying that 1 Cor. 10:4 is "identical words to those found in the Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ." In her latest work Acharya attributes this comment also to Weigall.

In response to this, I need to say that if Golding has or Weigall had some Mithraic scriptures in their possession, they need to turn them over to Mithraic scholarly community at once, because they will want to know about them. Ulansey [Ulan.OMM, 3] tells us that "the teachings of the (Mithraic) cult were, as far as we know, never written down" and we "have been left with practically no literary evidence relating to the cult which would help (us) reconstruct its esoteric doctrines." So where is Golding/Weigall getting this from? (A reader also noted that Paul is alluding the the Old Testament book of Numbers; so how does that square with a Mithraic origin for this verse?)



I dont think you really want me to crush your horus one to do you? Hey I have a GREAT IDEA why not do your OWN research and get some of YOUR OWN IDEAS. Just a thought.
anonymous
2009-04-25 07:29:01 UTC
Just stop trying to contradict the Holy Bible. The thousands of devoted Biblical Scholars would have discovered this already if it were true. It's not though.
anonymous
2009-04-25 07:25:07 UTC
Nice logic Esther - "Jesus is the son of God.....because He is." Is that really the best justification you have, the logic you would get from an eight year old when asked why they did something?
anonymous
2009-04-25 07:43:36 UTC
Jesus and John were lovers dear, and that's hot ! Horus was not .
Devilishly Sexy MasterMinD
2009-04-25 07:21:58 UTC
If these facts are true, I have to say I'm ''astounded''.



Perhaps you can show us the source... it'll help with credibility.
anonymous
2009-04-25 07:21:57 UTC
There is scant evidence for an 'historical jesus'. There is ABSOLUTELY NO credible, tangible, concrete evidence for a 'divine jesus'. The 'jesus' of the gospels is FICTION!
Esther
2009-04-25 07:21:30 UTC
I don't know about any of these things you wrote and frankly I don't care.



Jesus is the son of God.....because He is.
anonymous
2009-04-25 07:21:45 UTC
You shook my faith i am no longer Christian thanks!


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