A question on Marriages among Telugu Brahmin Community:What is called a "Nagavalli Muhurtam"?

Question

In Nagavalli Muhurtam, a seperate Mangalsutra is being tied to the Bride and it is said that Nagavalli Muhurtam is more important than of the original Muhurtam.
This practice is common among most of the Tamil Nadu based Telegu Brahmns particularly of Aswalaayana Sutra followers.
Why this Nagavalli Muhurtam is not in vogue among Tamil Brahmin Community ???
Another question about "Thingan Nagavalli" being performed on an auspicious day somedays after the marriage, in which the original Mangal Sutra tied on the day of marriage is being replaced by the bride groom with another one in the presence of close relatives/elders in the family ???
I think this practice is not also in vogue among Tamil Brahmin Community.

May I know about the significance of Nagavalli and Thingan Nagavalli Muhurtams ???

Answer 1

Dear Bull,



The word Nagavalli is wrong , but many pundits even use it.



The Correct word is ; NAAKA BALI.



You may ask or refer Internet or Books.



I will add further tomorrow or day after if the question is open till then.



EDIT.



Thank you Mr Bull.



Here I give information from Hindu Vivaaha Prakaranam.

If you can read and understand telugu , iI will send the complete Book in pdf form.



NAAKA-BALI

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In olden days the marriages are used to be performed for FIVE DAYS.

This Naak-Bali comes on the 5 th day.{ Now Every thing is condensed and result we are experiencing}

The place where this Ceremony is being conducted is smeared wityh COW-DUNG. and then with FIVE colours a Rangavalli called ''Chitrakam Bali'' like Rangavalli is drwanby Suhaasinis.

Around the Rangavalli Earthern pots are placed (small size with neck) and now cpotton thread is drawn around these 5 pots NINE times.On for corners Jyotis or deepams are lighted.

Vadhu and Varudu ( bride and bride groom) make THREE pradakshinams around this , and enter inside and sit facing EAST.

Then with Samantrakam, they do pooja or worship, ''gods Agni,Vaayu,Surya,Chandra,Rudra,Viswey Devaas,Bruhaspati,Indra,Varuna..'' Dwaadasa devataas., for their blessings.

The thread around pots ( Nine threads combined is given to issueless couples and Scriptures say they will have children.

Then they do Worship the Nalala Poosalu (black beads) and GOWRI DEVI..

Now Naagavalli Bottu is given by mother of Bride and it is worshipped. and the Bottu and Nalla Poosalau are now made as a neclace and ties in the neck of Bride while Purohit chants a Mantram.;

'' Neela lohiteyBhavatah krutyaasaktirvyajytey,

Edantey syaa ghnaataayah patirbandeyshu badhyatey.''



Then the Vadhu and Varudu both worship SACHI DEVI.for granting Health, Wealth and Prosperity, Longevity,and Children.



This is NAAKA-BALI ( or Naaga valli as being called now) is in breif.

With time there may be many changes, but that results not in a positive way.



Thank you Bull for the opportunity.

Answer 2

Telugu Marriages

Answer 3

As our friends have said earlier... It is NAGA-BHALI DHOSHA PARIHARAM , in some beliefs the families performing this ritual descended from a common ancestral family, where a snake was born instead of a baby but was accepted by the family and grown, among them, but in one instance due to the negligence of the family members the snake dies a painful death, this is one version, another version of the story is that a wild snake was killed for entering the household, And a snake s wrath is carried on to many generations, hence to apeace the snake s spirit, this ritual is performed in the marriage of every descendant, some female restrain from eating the vegetable "Snake Gourd" in their food, because the vegetable was used as an idol of worship, during the snake worship.

Answer 4

just one correction.

The word nagavalli is derived from the word Naka-bali which infact related to some sacrifices in ancient periods to please Devas (gods)but now changed .

even now Brahmins performing marriages pronounce it as naka bali not naga valli.

Nagavalli (derived from naka-bali, a sacrificial offering to the naka-residents, i.e., Devas) is the last religious event in Telugu wedding.

Now animal sacrifice is no more in practice.

now we are practicing it as





"Nagavalli: Ceremonies to induct the bride into her household duties and display of gifts

The groom ties black beads, threaded by unmarried girls, around the bride's neck. After this the groom holds the right

foot of the bride and places it on a granite grinding stone called 'sanni kallu' as he chants a mantra. The groom then

Nagavalli - display of gifts adorns each of the bride's second toes with a pair of silver rings (matti). It is during this

ceremony that the groom's family presents the bride with jewellery, sarees, and sweets and these gifts are displayed for(http://www.simplymarryzine.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=143)

During nAgavalli, a silk cloth cradle was made and a piece of sandalwood, a ripe mango and turmeric was placed in it to pray for an off spring as healthy as the ripe mango, as pure as the turmeric and as self fragrant as the sandalwood. This is followed by a fun filled event where the bride and groom fight over who will collect the gold and silver rings dropped in a narrow mouthed vessel. Probably to check who dominates in the new family.



Holding the bride’s left foot toe, the bridegroom then helps her tread on a grindstone called sannikallu kept on the side of the fire. The manthras say: "Mount up this stone. Let thy mind be rock-firm, unperturbed, by the trials and tribulations of life" and when it is finished, the groom adorns the bride's toes with mettelu, silver rings.

poet Arudra described all the rituals performed in Telugu marriage in a cinema song " sree rastu subhamastu' in the movie " pelli pustakam"(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCqe6M5BcNw)

The original intentions and ideas behind ceremonies related to marriage radically differs from that of we see in this modern age.

the internet is still not uploaded with authentic information regarding marriage and funeral ceremonies.

Answer 5

nagavalli is the post main function.(jeelakarrabellam ,& tying mangalasutram)



now a days all the telugu brahmins follow the nagavalli as a post marriage function



In Nagavalli Muhurtam, a seperate Mangalsutra is being tied to the Bride::

nallapoosalu /black beeds (& paalakai poosa made of gold) are tied



nagavalli function: during nagavalli function bride and groom play with a flower ball,

secondly a (new) saree is held above both bride and groom and a small wooden doll is placed in the saree spread above the heads and water /paanakam in slight quantity is poured so as to fall on the heads of groom and bride , signifiying the child passing urine.

in nagavalli there is an aacharam where the bride goes to alaka paanpu

(alaka :: meaning shall we say angry? or not happy?

and paanpu:: bed)

and in good olden days he used to demand a herculas/ raleigh bicycle from his maamagaru,

subsequently it has gone to vespa scooter , depending upon the capacity of the father in law.

(now a days i dont see the alakapaanpu as the NEGOTIATIONS are on lump sum basis)

during nagavalli , the mother in law beautify her daughter in law with golden armaments, pure silk sarees etc ( that are promised/given from grooms side)



then in saptha padi, groom arnament the bride's toes with mettes.

in between there is a minor function of retrieving the rings from the vessel( binde filled with liquid/water)



and the mangalasoothram (with manje kair)which was tied during marriage is changed preferably sootras placed in a golden chain on 16th day ( padahaaru rojula pandaga)

Answer 6

Nagavalli is the name of Betel leaves since they resemble th e hood of a snake. Usually this custom of nagavalli soothra is the fair version of the one tied at the time of Muhurtham, when only thread is tied. During nagavalli, the thread with black beads and golden beads and Pottu is tied. I can't find any mention ab. thingal nagavalli in the given answers. Thingal Nagavalli is followed by Iyengars also but not with the name. Even in other castes except brahmins the function is called "Thali perukkik kattuthal" when the one tied on the day of marriage is replaced with a new thread. Since it is performed within the period of one month from the date of wedding, this is called thingal (Month) nagavalli.

Answer 7

dear friend-- iam very happy to answer the questions which you asking . this is very important one among them.





agni sakshi - "Fire as the witness."

Homam, fire ritual, do not form a part of the main function in South Indian weddings. In brahmin communities fire rituals like nagavalli & lAja homam are performed only after the mangalyadaarana ceremony. Ancestors are the witness to the main wedding, not the fire God.



After the main ceremony, the holy fire is lit symbolizing purity and serving as a witness to the vows that are to follow. The couple offers prayers to Agni (the God of Fire). These prayers have a special significance for the couple who say, "Today in your presence, we have become one, and only you can separate us from one another." The Bride and Groom will make an offering of rice into the Agni, which symbolizes fertility, friendship, and the good fortune of their marriage. It is believed that Agni will dispel darkness and ignorance from the couple’s life and lead them into the world of light and knowledge.



nagavalli---

An important post marriage ritual performed on the wedding day is nAgavalli. saptapadi, the seven steps & the vows, form part of nagavalli. The bride and groom pledge and declare to all those present that they have accepted one another voluntarily. Holding each other's hands, the couple takes seven steps, symbolic of the seven marital vows, around the sacred fire.



As they hold hands and walk around the fire, the bride and groom pledge the following vows:



1. Let us take this first step vowing to keep a pure household, avoiding all things injurious to our health.

2. Let us take this second step vowing to develop mental, physical and spiritual strengths.

3. Let us take this third step with the aim of increasing our wealth by righteous means.

4. Let us take this fourth step to acquire knowledge, happiness, and harmony by mutual love and trust.

5. Let us take this fifth step to pray for virtuous, intelligent and courageous children.

6. Let us take this sixth step for longevity.

7. Let us take this final step to vow that we will always remain true companions and life-long partners.



This is a very significant event in the whole marriage ceremony, and it is only when they walk seven steps together, that the marriage is complete legally according to the vedic hindu scriptures.



During nagavalli, a silk cloth cradle was made and a piece of sandalwood, a ripe mango and turmeric was placed in it to pray for an off spring as healthy as the ripe mango, as pure as the turmeric and as self fragrant as the sandalwood. This is followed by a fun filled event where the bride and groom fight over who will collect the gold and silver rings dropped in a narrow mouthed vessel. Probably to check who dominates in the new family.



Holding the bride’s left foot toe, the bridegroom then helps her tread on a grindstone called sannikallu kept on the side of the fire. The manthras say: "Mount up this stone. Let thy mind be rock-firm, unperturbed, by the trials and tribulations of life" and when it is finished, the groom adorns the bride's toes with mettelu, silver rings. At this time the priest shows the couple the Arundhati star. Arundhati, the wife of vasisTha maharshi(the great saint), is exemplified as an ideal wife, the embodiment of chastity. By seeking her blessings, the bride expresses her devotion toward family life.



This is followed by appagintalu the official handover of the bride to the groom and ever since her family name is renamed.



thanq very much for giving the opputunity to answer your excellent question.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

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Answer 10

I think mathangi good among the best is in compromising mood. what's the jagda between both of you? anyway make a compromise withat lady otherwise, it looks "அவங்க அழுதுருவாங்க !!!!""

Answer 11

anjalee....annnnjaleeeeeeeeeeee..pushpanjale..dagadakka dagadakka...sri anjali gave a nice answer.

kalyana vaibogame...enna ootle kalyanam varudhaaaaaaaaaa? Also i find good answer from geyamala madam.