Question:
If the founding fathers wanted a Christian country, why did they let Athiest rules in?
The Bald Satyr
2009-06-09 09:59:22 UTC
Like slavery and barring women from voting?

Why didnt Christian founders put a stop to such prejudice towards their neighbours and put it in the Constitution?

Also why did thy let Athiest relativity 'morals' into the constitution?

Did Athiest founding fathers bully them into leaving out the 10 Commandments??? W hy did they let that happen?
Twenty answers:
Daken
2009-06-09 10:03:13 UTC
Slavery is a Christian value, as is oppressing women.
Heidelzbth
2009-06-09 10:04:40 UTC
The country is not a Christian country, no matter how you try and say it is. There is a difference between religion and government, and the two should not be mixed, why should a "Free" nation, that came that way to escape religious prosecution be able to add the ten commandments into the constitution. America is founded on the Freedom of Speech and Freedom to live and believe or not believe what you would want. And all of the founding fathers were not Christians, there was a diverse group
QUILL
2009-06-11 10:03:25 UTC
You are either angry at all Atheists, all Christians, or else you are sadly misinformed, for there is no indication that the Founding Fathers had any notion of founding a 'Christian country.'



Having escaped from the legal clutches of the English Established Church and its tentacles in polity and legislation or from similar controlling ecclesiastical powers in Europe, they sought to establish a country where every man would be free to follow the religion of his choosing, or none at all, and to this end provided in the Constitution a resolution that the US Government would keep its nose out of matters religious.



That it has not done so is a matter of record, and that certain cults on the far right of the Evangelical Political Movement has no intention of ceasing from their delusions that it is going to be a 'Christian Ciountry' whether the rest of the county likes it or not, and do so especially in regard to those who are either not Christians, or who are Christians but hold the Constitutional opinion that government should not interfere with the religious and spiritual lives of the people, nor with whatever way they seek to express their beliefs or non-beliefs.



Religion has often been used as a method of social control, and those that advocate the politicising of Christianity do so at the cost of alienating themselves from the teachings of Jesus Christ who said,



"My kingdom is not of this world; if it were my servants would fight."



And those that seek to Christianise politics alienate themselves from God and Jesus Christ by way of distorting their gospel and forcing it, like Procrusteas, to fit whatever object of political philosophy that they decide it must be applied.



Jesus gave other advice that such pseudoreligio-political animals conveniently overlook,



"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"



There is no confusion, no mixing of principles, no borrowing 'across the aisle,' so to speak, but a clear definition of the God given separation of polity and religion. Accordingly, there should be no confusion here, at least for true believing Christians or thinking atheists, etc.



The withholding of the civic franchise from women is not an atheistic principle, but was the natural result of Judeo-Christian patriarchalism that saturated the 'civilised' world.



Likewise, slavery is not atheistic, but it also has Judeo-Christian roots, and while there were some brave Christian ministers and politicians that stood against slavery, there were many more Christian gentlemen that not only exploited the men, women, and children stolen from their homelands and brutalised by their capture, transport, and treatment when bought and enslaved further by decent Christian gentlemen plantation owners that could, at best, only be called Christians up to a point.



Governments ought not to attempt to control what people think about, imagine, or espouse, for such activities by either governments, politicians, religious leaders, and criminals fall inside the much vaunted 'freedom of the individual' to pursue his or her own destiny. It has been referred to as 'The American Dream.'



Although the Constitution does not contain the Decalogue, it is based on the principles of respect and responsibility for the community and family that are addressed in the Decalogue.



The framers of the Constitution were intelligent enough to know that there are some things that cannot be legislated, of whose number are unkindness, hostility, and bad manners. No doubt you will know of others.
Shogun
2009-06-09 10:22:27 UTC
Bald,



They do have you on your historical knowledge. Our nation was founded as a theist nation. This is due to George Washington, Ben Franklin and some other key founding fathers being Free Masons. They even incorporated Masonic teachings into government practices, such as the oath the president takes. Free Masons must only believe one God, this allows those of most religions to fraternize for the good of mankind, which is what they meant for our nation. This has long ago been corrupted by politicians.
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2016-10-01 15:19:11 UTC
The founding fathers didn't wish a Christian united states. They observed from Europe how unfavourable that's to combine up faith and state so the U. S. shape grew to become into specifically written with the intention to maintain the two separate. till those days, Christians thought slavery and banning females from voting have been completely appropriate.
Ancient
2009-06-09 17:16:55 UTC
History is commonly misunderstood today because it is taught from a Marxist point of view. The Marxist point of view did not come into being until long after this nation was founded.



In fact, the atheists who migrated to this country did not come over until just before and after the Revolutions of 1848 in Europe. They took over this country through rapid immigration, involvement in banking and industry, and, of course, dominance of the newspaper industry. So much so that we ended up with a Civil War in the United States between two factions of people representing entirely different worldviews (not that I would claim the southern viewpoint as necessarily Christian but rather traditional American).



I would also not classify all the people of the 'Old Northwest' or 'Back East' as belonging to the Marxist European crowd (as evidenced by the draft riots, plots to withdraw from the Civil War or even the union as it stood at the time, etc.).



Just read the New York Times then follow it up by any of the writings of the founders to see the difference between the New America and the Traditional America.



And for further information, the separation of church and state thing was to prevent any state from requiring someone to be a Puritan, Quaker, Anglican, etc. (establishment of a religion) in order to vote within that state. The groups that fled to America originally, excepting the Catholics, were attempting to escape various state-mandated religious institutions and practice free exercise of (Christian) religion - what we would call denominations today. In each state within Europe, the prince, emperor or king had already chosen what religion the people had to follow on penalty of imprisonment, confiscation of goods, torture, and death. Some rulers felt wrong about killing another for wishing to worship God in their own way and thus only imprisoned the people who would not convert to their particular faith (Lutheran, Reformed, Catholic).



Even in the 19th century, religion was a term which would refer to one's specific denomination of Christianity and race still at least referred to a person's nation of origin (since tribalism had died). Before then, the term race referred to various tribes and had nothing to do with modern connotations (read any classical geography/history).
l3ecarefulhere
2009-06-09 10:08:07 UTC
Where exactly do you think the first 3 commandments would fit in the Constitution? No place in the Constitution does it attempt to preserve "relativity" morals. And prejudice cannot be legislated away, only discrimination, which they did.
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:11:50 UTC
False, they wanted a country where they ruled and they controlled the wealth they made. They didn't want to have a 'divine' king take the wealth away. The US was founded by rich men for rich men. Later on other types of people were included.



They built in a wall of separation for religion (God) and the affairs of men. They did not want a theocracy or a single religion country.
Pyth
2009-06-09 10:04:10 UTC
Atheists wanted slavery and barring women from voting?



the american south was comprised of the most devout Christians in modern history. In bible times, women weren't allowed to have any say in the community and slavery was condoned.



Epic Fail
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:03:41 UTC
The founding fathers didn't want a Christian country. They wanted separation of church and state.



Many of the founding fathers were agnostics.
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:03:02 UTC
Slavery is very biblical. In fact, the cult guide book even says that you can rape the sexy ones so long as you treat them well.
♣ÇhÄøŠ♣
2009-06-09 10:03:08 UTC
Sexism and Slavery were condoned in the Bible.
Nymphetamine
2009-06-09 10:04:02 UTC
You must have an irony complex.



Atheists proposed slavery?





LMAO....just LMAO
jehovianwitness
2009-06-09 10:07:50 UTC
You left your brain in a dishwasher - go and get it before it's too late.
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:04:11 UTC
We were created as a secular country.



Separation of church and state.



It's that simple.
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:07:56 UTC
So, grammar and history the subjects you failed in school?
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:09:13 UTC
slavery, oppression...sounds christian.
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:04:02 UTC
You suck at history.
Allie Q
2009-06-09 10:05:39 UTC
TROLL.
anonymous
2009-06-09 10:03:04 UTC
YOU GOT YOUR HISTORY WRONG. CHECK IT AGAIN PLEASE.


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