#13 Atheists what would be your LOGICAL rebuttal of this evidence supporting the existence of the supernatural?

Question

In order to make various theories “work” it has been proposed that as many as 26 different dimensions exist. These extra proposed dimensions are additional dimensions of both space and time beyond the 3 physical and 1 time dimensions of our own existence. Some of these theories, such as the “M-Theory”, were created specifically to attempt to dismiss the fine-tuning of our universe which is such strong evidence for the existence of God. If there were an endless number of universes then ours might just be the one that got all of the values right. But it is ironic that in doing so they are actually providing more evidence of His existence.

Scientists have stated that if there are extra-dimensions then it is possible that each of these other dimensions could have universes of their own with intelligent life that would be completely different than our own. They also have said that they could be occupying the same physical space as we are but if they possessed our exact four dimensions they could interact within our universe while we would have no knowledge of their presence. If a 5-dimensional being from a universe with all of our dimensions +1, and they had discovered a way to enter the rift between our universe and his, then he might even be able to present himself in our 4-dimensional world. Most likely we would only see him as a wisp or what we might call a “ghost” or an "apparition" . If this isn’t the definition of “supernatural” then I don’t know what is.

Answer 1

It is not evidence, it is just wild speculation.

Answer 2

You seem to confuse a lack of belief in the existence of any gods with a PhD in theoretical physics.

Answer 3

That's an unsupported assertion masquerading as fact. Yes, a multiverse is indeed a far better explanation for the "finely-tuned Universe" than the existence of a creator is. So you, finding that fact inconvenient, are desperate to discredit it. The thing is, there's math. String theories aren't just made up out of thin air, they conform to the maths. (That's how they picked up the 'theory' part of the name in the first place, despite not being scientific theory, because it's mathematical theory, not observational science). But it's baseless paranoia on your part to try to dismiss it as an attempt by those evil scientists to invalidate your superstitious supernatural beliefs. So you slur it as pseudoscience without even realizing it's math, not science.

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Answer 4

I was brutally raped and left for dead.

Answer 5

In order to make various theories “work” it has been proposed that as many as 26 different dimensions exist



- SO?



were created specifically to attempt to dismiss the fine-tuning of our universe



- How absurd. That is the brain dead fundie idea.



which is such strong evidence for the existence of God



- Only in your dreams.



If there were an endless number of universes then ours might just be the one that got all of the values right.



- SO?



But it is ironic that in doing so they are actually providing more evidence of His existence.



- Can you actually think?



Scientists have stated that if there are extra-dimensions then it is possible that each of these other dimensions could have universes of their own with intelligent life that would be completely different than our own.



- The operative word is "IF" and "could" be rather than "would" be.



If this isn’t the definition of “supernatural” then I don’t know what is.



- It is called hypothesis and science. You are just dreaming.

Answer 6

So. You're using something labeled pseudo-science to...what now? Have a go at atheists? BWHA HA HA, kiddo!



You'd have to do more than copy-paste drunken fun from scientists to...yeah. This is a big ole fail, cupcake.



What's fourteen? Can we throw some suggestions into your hat? Maybe try the hollow earth stuff, someone might fall for it. You never know on R/S. Have you tried the NDE stuff? Maybe that pic of the dinosaur allegedly taken during the Civil War?? Ooooh!!! So much stuff yet! I see you reaching at least seventeen, dear!

Answer 7

The logical rebuttal would be that you don't know what you're talking about. Nowadays, nobody is claiming there are 26 dimensions. Currently string theory proposes there are 10 dimensions (9 plus time), and they don't propose some woo-woo dimensions, but suggest that each of the three regular known dimensions could be subdivided into three dimensions themselves.



Your science background isn't in quantum physics or string theory. Once you achieve understanding in those sciences then you'll have to dramatically change your imaginary theory.

Answer 8

Atheism : The DIS/UN/NONbelief in gods and or goddesses



Add to or take away from this, and it's no longer atheism.



U added an entire page of 6 paragraphs to this.



Its no longer atheism.



U have no evidence



Feelings and theories aren't evidence.



Jesus isn't evidence since u can't prove Jesus.

Answer 9

None of that proves the existence of a god. It sounds like an "I do not know therefore god" sort of thing in what you are saying.



Dave D · What are you calling supernatural? Just because you do not understand it does not make it supernatural. A god would certainly be capable of breaking through this unknown if one existed and you wouldn't have to guess about anything. Supernatural is just a word that's used when someone lacks the knowledge of the natural.



You are assuming there is a god and what makes no sense is a god giving us 5 senses and not appealing to either one of those senses to let us know he in fact exist just as he supposedly did to the people who wrote about him.You would imagine a god doing that with this same god being upset with us for not knowing he exist. It's more believable that people will make up gods just as they have always done than a god that has done so much and created a whole Universe while simultaneously not existing with not even a trace of evidence that would lead to his discovery



. If you can communicate with me, with me understanding you clearly than certainly a god would be able to do the same. It makes no sense for a loving god or any god to play hide and seek. If it's some sixth sense I am supposed to have than a god should have given me one if one in fact exist and actually cared about me knowing he exist at least within the senses this god has supposedly given me.



"The reason for the physical is what we can learn without direct knowledge of Him"



That doesn't make any sense and makes it sound like it's some god toying with us. You are trying to give us some sixth sense we do not have in which imagination or belief is no substitute for. If you think that makes any sense tell me how it makes sense.

Answer 10

#420 What evidence?



Update: I'm sorry, but proposing extra dimensions in a hypothetical sense does not constitute evidence.

Answer 11

The 19th dimension is total bullshit. How could there be a dimension where everyone hops instead of walking? Also, god doesn't exist.