Question:
Have you become aware of the well worn phrase, " well, man wrote the Bible"?
2009-12-10 00:26:11 UTC
Obviously sisnce man is involved, wouldn't man be instructed to write it? But of course you know the atheistic "point" in this famous cliche. I have a question. If man wrote the Bible on his OWN accord or recognizance, why would it include works and Commandments that would be and are impossible for humanity to achieve? Wouldn't it be something that appeals to the senses? So many things do so, for example in poetry, existentialism, philosophy and so forth.
The Bible in no way shape or form appeals to the senses or the mind of man. The New Testament of Jesus Christ is proof of that.
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2009-12-10 00:33:59 UTC
If the bible was divinely inspired by god, then it would be 100% accurate and contain not one single Contradiction,. But, as we know, when you get 10-25 people writing about the old campfire stories that the ancients told, you are bound to get some contradictions.





The bible is a fairy tale. nothing more.
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2009-12-10 04:50:21 UTC
Err, "MAN WROTE THE BIBLE" isnt only a comeback/whatever used by athiests. A LOT of Christians, esp on y/a use that phrase too. Esp when lost Christians ask questions about the untruthfulness/contradictions in the bible. Christians tend to say that if you sit downa nd read the bible with a mind to criticise and think literally, it won't be perfect, since man DID write it. Are you and idiot? The NEW testament? When was this written. Only an idiot would think that jesus wrote the whole bible himself. Even if his disciples or supporters wrote it, they are mere followers and students. Did every student in school get an A+ while you were there? "The Bible in no way shape or form appeals to the senses or the mind of man." I think it does. Why else would people feel such a connection to it? I cant believe i bothered; Im not saying Christianity is a lie but your question is just stupid and makes Christians look stupid.
2009-12-10 00:41:20 UTC
That's a bad as Ive ever heard.

There's nothing Obvious about man being instructed to write the bible.

If that's the case wouldn't babies be instructed to write pediatric medical textbooks, its about them after all.



It would include the 10 Commandments because they are "Goals".

The first 5 are all about how to treat God. Would God tell us to do what he knows we can't do ?



The Bible appeals to my senses. Be nice,be humble, be helpful, don't be a selfish destructive jerk to the environment, I don't know what part of that bothers you, but Im ok with it.
bazpartu
2009-12-10 00:43:19 UTC
the more impossible it is to achieve the harder man tries to achieve it, this is how we landed on the moon!

the reason it is like this is to be able to control through fear - most of these religious type claim they are going to hell anyway, for oversight such as drinking booze, smoking, eating the wrong kinds of meat etc and to make it almost impossible to acheive the ideal means that the flock will try perhaps even their hardest but will never get there hence the prophecies of doom and the toeing of lines.



the bible cannot be proof to itself- it needs further evidence to corroborate.



look at it another way - would you be happy to accept a jail sentence or a death sentence on the basis of one persons evidence?
MoronFife
2009-12-10 00:36:26 UTC
Try Chinese scriptures. They are 3,000 years older than the Bible and the Chinese built an Empire that rivaled Rome. They had a completely different religion and God.



The commandments came from the Egyptian book of the dead. These things were borrowed from culture to culture throughout time from ordinary men who wrote these stories down on scrolls. Miracles are fairy tales.



There was no Jesus, its a fictional character.
belle91001
2009-12-10 00:57:05 UTC
The Bible is the Word of God. God used men to write the Bible and relay the message that He wanted to give to us. Yes, it is true their is many versions of translations of the Bible, and you will have to ask God to help you with the revelation of the Word and to get a translation that is not out of line.



The Bible is the only ancient scriptures or recordings that has been proven, time and time again through science and archeology. To fully understand the Bible you will have to study it over a period of time. I've been Christian for many years, and I have to admit that there is still books in the Bible that I have not studied at all. There is just too much other gems to work through. For example the book of Romans is one of my favourites (if you want to call it that), and yet I do not have even half the understanding and knowledge I would like to have.



The Bible has not been written to appeal to anyone's senses. The laws in the Bible are in essence captured in two laws: 1. Love God with everything you have and 2. Love your neighbour as yourself. None of it is impossible to achieve, it is an attitude adjustment that you have to make, and it is possible to achieve through the power of the Holy Spirit in the Name of Jesus Christ.



Oh, and by the way, Christ is not a myth or story book character, He is as real as you and me, and again science and history has proven it. (And I am not referring to the shroud of Tourin, and those kind of relics).

But, no one has to belief me, why don't you ask God to show Him to you. IF you are true in your search, and not trying to make a mockery of it, I can promise you he will show Himself to whomever seeks Him.
Nate
2009-12-10 00:32:11 UTC
You're asking this as if you want it to appeal to the senses of today. What you fail to note is that it wasn't intended to appeal to one's senses today but the senses of a much more superstitious time.



Further, many books include things that are impossible. They're called fictional books.
2009-12-10 00:35:38 UTC
the bible has had many edits: omissions & mistranslations :: it is not 100% the word of Ģ๑Đ



some of the commandments are in sync with natural human emotions: such as not killing & stealing: both things i would feel bad about doing or experiencing without any say so from the bible
The Dark Side
2009-12-10 00:33:09 UTC
Can you give some examples of things that are "impossible for humanity to achieve"? Remember that fiction can contain anything.
2009-12-10 00:34:28 UTC
"why would it include works and Commandments that would be and are impossible for humanity to achieve"



Uh...what? You make outrageous claims and then offer no actual evidence of said claims.



By all means, please show me these so called "impossible for humanity of achieve" works.
**[Witty_Name]**
2009-12-10 00:34:08 UTC
Basically what you are saying is that anyone in the world could write anything and say God told them to write that and you would believe it.



Your arguments are vague and uninformed. Please stop asking these mundane questions.
Mystery Lady
2009-12-10 00:42:28 UTC
Man also makes up stories as he goes.
Illuminator
2009-12-10 00:47:00 UTC
Of course man wrote the Bible; what was God to do? Send man a fax? Obviously God had to get his message across in a practical way.



Using the Four Senses of Scripture to Interpret the Exodus



Literal (or historical): We better understand salvation history by knowing the story itself and the historical details about the chosen people. In the story of the Exodus, the literal sense is the actual crossing of the Red Sea by the Israelites and the drowning of the forces of Pharaoh.



Christological (or allegorical): We better understand Christ’s death and resurrection by relating it to the literal sense. Luke uses the christological sense when he tells us that Moses and Elijah spoke with Jesus about his "exodus" during the Transfiguration (cf. Luke 9:31). As God freed Israel from Egypt at the Red Sea and honored them as the chosen people, he freed Christ from the bonds of death and raised him to glory.



Moral (or tropological): We better understand God’s will in our lives by relating the literal sense to our lives in Christ. In baptism, Christ "drowns" original sin in the waters.



Anagogical: We better understand the hope of eternal life to which we are called. In our own deaths, we hope to be freed definitively from sin and mortality and raised up in glory. The destruction of death and Hades in the lake of fire (Rev. 20:14–15) is an anagogical reference to the Exodus.



For a good introduction to the four senses, see Making Senses Out of Scripture: Reading the Bible as the First Christians Did by Mark P. Shea (Basilica Press, 1999).



Catholic spiritual writers often have meant their own writings to be read in this way, as Dante said of his own Divine Comedy and St. John of the Cross illustrates in commentaries on his own poetry.



2 Timothy 3:12-17: Indeed all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceivers and deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned (TRADITION) and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it (MAGISTERIUM) and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings (SCRIPTURE) which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.



Note verse 14. It admonishes Timothy to do three things:



1) Remember what you have learned and firmly believed (Tradition)

2) Know from whom you learned it (Magisterium)

3) Know you have the Scriptures



The Bible on St. Paul's list comes in third, not first. He actually gives here the traditional Catholic teaching on the three sources of sound teaching.



In verse 15 he goes into an excursus on the Bible. This brief excursus emphasizes the value of the Bible and recommends a fourfold method of exegesis. This verse was used in the pre-Deformation Church as a proof text for the Quadriga which was the standard Catholic approach to the Bible. The Quadriga method used the following four categories:



Literal/Literary (teaching) - the text as it is written

Analogical (reproof) - matters of faith

Anagogical (correction) - matters of hope/prophecy

Moral (training in righteousness) - matters of charity



The analogical, anagogical and moral senses of the Bible were known collectively as the spiritual senses. The 'reformers' rejected the BIBLICAL fourfold method of exegesis, and ignored 2 Tim 3:12-17.



This is one of many rebutting defeaters in 2 Tim 3 for those who wish to use it to support sola scriptura.
2009-12-10 00:30:17 UTC
Maybe you should agree with it, Lol


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