Question:
No Salvation for Judas?
?
2017-04-30 11:57:06 UTC
In the Old Testament, we read that the Messiah needed to be betrayed by a close friend for money. Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver or gold (not sure which one). This tells me that Judas had no hope for salvation. He was selected before the creation of the world to betray Jesus. What do you say?
Eleven answers:
?
2017-04-30 13:32:21 UTC
The traitorous course of Judas Iscariot fulfilled divine prophecy and demonstrated Jehovah’s foreknowledge as well as that of his Son. (Ps 41:9; 55:12, 13; 109:8; Ac 1:16-20) Yet it cannot be said that God foreordained or predestinated Judas himself to such a course. The prophecies foretold that some intimate acquaintance of Jesus would be his betrayer, but they did not specify which of those sharing such acquaintance it would be. Again, Bible principles rule against God’s having foreordained Judas’ actions. The divine standard stated by the apostle is: “Never lay your hands hastily upon any man; neither be a sharer in the sins of others; preserve yourself chaste.” (1Ti 5:22; compare 3:6.) Evidencing his concern that the selection of his 12 apostles be wisely and properly made, Jesus spent the night in prayer to his Father before making known his decision. (Lu 6:12-16) If Judas were already divinely foreordained to be a traitor, this would result in inconsistency in God’s direction and guidance and, according to the rule, would make him a sharer in the sins that one committed.

Thus, it seems evident that at the time of his being selected as an apostle, Judas’ heart presented no definite evidence of a treasonous attitude. He allowed a ‘poisonous root to spring up’ and defile him, resulting in his deviation and in his accepting, not God’s direction, but the Devil’s leading in a course of thievery and treachery. (Heb 12:14, 15; Joh 13:2; Ac 1:24, 25; Jas 1:14, 15; see JUDAS No. 4.) By the time such deviation reached a certain point, Jesus himself could read Judas’ heart and foretell his betrayal.—Joh 13:10, 11.
magix151
2017-04-30 14:31:58 UTC
It was silver. And maybe he can be saved. One day.
Beorh House
2017-04-30 12:50:34 UTC
There were many possible Judases. Judas was the scapegoat mentioned in Leviticus who took away the memory of Azazel the leader of the Fallen Angels so that the death of the righteous goat--Jesus--could be fully comprehended and celebrated as forgiver of sins.
anonymous
2017-04-30 12:25:01 UTC
No man may judge another survival possibilities. With Judas, however, I doubt it.
?
2017-04-30 12:21:54 UTC
No, because Judas Iscariot was a Christian who fell into the hands of the living God and was recompensed with the “more severe” punishment of everlasting destruction. Judas did not live to the day of Pentecost of the year 33 of our Common Era to be baptized with holy spirit and to be begotten by God the Father to a heavenly hope. However, he had been chosen to be an apostle of Jesus Christ and had been given special powers by means of the holy spirit when he was sent forth with the eleven other apostles on preaching work, which is found at Matthew 10:1-8. But Judas betrayed his Savior Jesus Christ, not to gain everlasting salvation but to get thirty pieces of silver from the murderous enemies of his Master.



The Lord Jesus, during his presence in his heavenly kingdom, will do away with this lawless one and bring him to nothing. He will utterly destroy this lawless one, for which reason this one is called “the son of destruction.” Those making up this “man of lawlessness” down through the past nineteen centuries are judged adversely and sentenced to Gehenna at their individual deaths. They will have no resurrection any more than that other “son of destruction” will, namely, Judas Iscariot. They just do not love the truth that leads to salvation. Hence they believe the lie and persistently spread the error. It is not strange, then, that the clergy of Christendom oppose the message of God’s Messianic kingdom and persecute the messengers. When Babylon the Great is destroyed forever, this “man of lawlessness” will also be executed with the “judgment of Gehenna.”
?
2017-04-30 12:21:18 UTC
I don't think he was selected to do it, but it was known that he would. He could be forgiven by Jesus.
gw
2017-04-30 12:18:50 UTC
His suicide stopped any possible forgiveness because he was no longer able to ask for it. God cannot give forgiveness without a change of heart.
Freethinking Liberal
2017-04-30 12:17:44 UTC
I feel sorry for Judas in the fictional book because the god thing wanted his 'son' killed to make a good story. He supposedly set up Judas to set this up... now it would be called entrapment.



Still, in fiction, anything can happen and anyone can be blamed.
Bible
2017-04-30 12:03:26 UTC
Sin against the holy spirit. Jesus Christ said that one who sinned against the holy spirit would not be forgiven in the present system of things nor in that to come. (Mt 12:31, 32) A person whom God judged as having sinned against the holy spirit in the present system of things would therefore not profit by a resurrection, since his sins would never be forgiven, making resurrection useless for him. Jesus uttered judgment against Judas Iscariot in calling him “the son of destruction.” The ransom would not apply to him, and his destruction already being a judicially established judgment, he would not receive a resurrection.—Joh 17:12.
Mog
2017-04-30 12:00:00 UTC
Origen strangely believed Judas committed suicide in order to seek Jesus in the afterlife and beg for forgiveness.
geessewereabove
2017-04-30 11:59:36 UTC
Being as Judas was also stealing money from the money bag to get things just for himself.... He was Sinning many more times also! ALL his decisions!


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