Atheist: I just want to know your views and opinion on my question?

Question

How about if there is something supernatural happens in your life lets says you see a human floating in the air and walking on the top of the water. Are those happenings in your life can make you believe on God existence?

For example of this are those great magicians below.

Robert Houdin French, 1805-1871

Romanoff & Juliette

Joseph Dunninger

Cris Angel

Answer 1

It's a dumb question. There are no real supernatural occurrences.



Watching Penn & Teller perform magic tricks doesn't make me believe in a god.

Answer 2

No, it wouldn't make me believe in God. I would assume it's an illusion...a trick of some sort. Since illusionists/magicians can do things that are so astonishing that we can't fathom how they could have possibly done them, and yet we know that they're only illusions/tricks, it would take something pretty amazing for me to think that there was any sort of supernatural element at work. Do you automatically jump to the furthest conclusion when you see a magician do a trick? If you see 100 magicians do a card trick where they're able to pick out a card from a deck that you had looked at earlier, and then you're shown how the trick works, and then later you see magician #101 do a similar trick, would you first assume that magician #101 is *actually* psychic before you would think that it's "just a trick"? Of course not. (At least, I would HOPE not.) You know it's just a trick because historical precedence has shown you that people can do tricks like that. It's the same thing here. I know that talented illusionists can do amazing tricks, so I'm not going to presume that when I see someone do something amazing, that the supernatural is involved.

Answer 3

Chris Angel is pretty open out of performances that it is the trick of illusion and nothing supernatural is actually going on. He has a bit of a war on Uri Geller because he feels Geller manipulates people by trying to make them believe his act is something really supernatural. Some Christians got peeved with him when he demonstrated how he pulled off his walking on water illusion since they felt he was invalidating a miracle by showing it could just be an illusion trick. Houdini was also a bit of a debunker of literal super naturalism. He acknowledge he was an escape artist. It seems to some he was searching to find if there was something truly supernatural but he wrote about how he only found fakes. He told his wife if it were in any way possible to commune with the living after death he would and to try on the date of his death. He apparently gave her a secret message so she would know it was real and not faked. She did try through her whole life and held many seances but there was no communication.

Answer 4

Well it's entirely up to you to believe, if you were to ask me i do say god do exist! What we humans want is hope, hope for all sort of stuff and god bring us that.



About the list magicians that you mention, they are just entertainers, they entertain us, why would you want to work if you can pick a winning lottery ticket every single time? There are a whole lot of special effects and camera tricks, have you ever realize that magicians don't wear short sleeves shirts when they are performing? Magic tricks...

Answer 5

I believe I have seen a ghost before, but see how that has little to do with the existence of God.

Supernatural happenings and religion are two different things. There are things is life that can't be answered by science, but wh yshould they be anythingt o do with religion?

I simply do not belive in God, religion of any sorts. And never will.

Seeing a ghost will have no affect on me.

Answer 6

It's interesting that you bring this up, since some of the most effective skeptics are Penn + Teller, and James (The Amazing) Randi. Houdini was a debunker, too, at least partly because he wanted it to be true. It seems that magicians have the most professional interest in the lines between magic and charlatanry.

Answer 7

magic is not supernatural. it's a trick. i can walk on water (add cornstarch). i can float in the air (either the balducci levitation or a parachute). that doesn't make me supernatural. if i want proof of god i only have to look at the complexity of life and existence's requirement of an observer. i also have to look away from the bible and any other book claiming a supernatural origin.

Answer 8

Just clever tricks.

There are videos on youtube that show how Cris Angel levitates.



Beyond that though, why does something supernatural have to be indicative of a God?

Answer 9

Just because you observe something you don't understand or can't explain does not prove the existence of god or anything "supernatural"; it merely highlights an gap in your knowledge or understanding.



Think of the reaction of the first Native American Indians to see a gun being fired - it would have seemed like magic to them.

Answer 10

Cris Angel........WTF? Ahhhhhahahahahahahahahahah!! You cant be serious right? These are TRICKS!!! Not REAL!!!! But to attempt and answer your question....If I did witness something that was beyond a doubt REAL and in no way some form of trickery then yes it would change my beliefs.....but thats not going to happen now is it??

Answer 11

If I seen a person walking on water or floating in the air I would check my blood sugar.

Answer 12

None of that would make me believe in god. Why should it? Magic tricks are just that--tricks. I have witnessed events I could not reconcile with my totally materialistic view of reality, but none of them suggested divine intervention to me.

Answer 13

The ability to walk on water has beenb performed by illusionists world wide

Answer 14

they are just MAGICIANS.

not supernatural.







one more thing.

doesnt the fact that a lot of magicians "walk on water"

make jesus not look so amazing after all?

Answer 15

they would make me think of david copperfield, derren brown, or that i need to up my meds



you know its only tricks because no human can do that, its a biological and physical impossibility



however if someone did, and it was PROVEN actaully tangibly proven, then id believe he had soem powers, but not that he was a god or god

Answer 16

Would observing something apparently supernatural make me believe in something else supernatural? Of course not, that's just silly.

Answer 17

If someone truly had supernatural powers, would they waste their time as a performer? (OK, maybe if your name was Michael Valentine Smith, but other than anyone with a Martian upbringing...)

Answer 18

No. I see no reason to put everything I can't explain down to the existence of an almighty sky being.

Answer 19

Are you trying to say these magicians are God? Cos sorry to burst your bubble but their illusions....

Answer 20

You left out

Answer 21

For some people, observing **** in the road is proof of god's existence. For others, unexplained phenomena are not proof of the christian fairy.

Answer 22

Illusionists do not enhance my belief in God. I am uncertain why you would make a list of people whose primary artform is deception.

Answer 23

Are you seriously asking if magic tricks would make us consider the existence of god? No.

Answer 24

You left out Harry Houdini.

Answer 25

No, it would make me believe that they are really good magicians.

Answer 26

I've read that some Atheists who experience the supernatural power of God became believers.

Answer 27

Not really -- because I know those people are professional ILLUSIONISTS, and don't make any claims about the supernatural.

Answer 28

no, if anything it reaffirms my belief that if there was a jesus, that's all he was. just a really good magician of his day.

Answer 29

There's a reason they're called "tricks."

Answer 30

No...



They would merely make me doubt my sanity, such as it is.

Answer 31

... no. Those things are called "illusions". Use your brain.

Answer 32

LOL No

Answer 33

what? can you clarify

Answer 34

lol... ur deceived big time......