Question:
Why would God let the Holocaust go on for years, but he helped my cousin's church buy a new sound system in less than six months?
King Apologist
2016-01-08 16:48:17 UTC
Are millions of Jews' desperate plights less interesting to him than upgrading a church sound system?
79 answers:
?
2016-01-09 07:32:33 UTC
Perhaps because your cousin's church consists of true believing born again Christians while the victims of the Holocaust were just unsaved Jews. Or perhaps in God's plan the sound system is more important. Maybe. It's more likely, though, that if there is a god, he does not answer prayers and takes a hands off approach neither punishing evil nor rewarding good.
Romans
2016-01-09 13:22:42 UTC
Oh King Apologist, with hellfire do you flirt

Why would God let the Holocaust go on for years, but help your cousin's church?

Concerned for six month sound systems, when you'll soon be in the dirt?

Your blaspheme reaches God’s ears and daily breaks his heart

You care not for the plight of the Jews or thereof any part

You search the scripture in such vain to try and prove God wrong

When he sent His Son to die for you and now asks you how long?

Will you neglect your great salvation? And curse God until you die?

He waits for your repentance. Please open up your eyes.
Annmarie
2016-01-09 14:17:09 UTC
I'm pleased your cousin's church got a new sound system - but after six months of regular tithes and offerings (I used to go church) obviously meant that there was enough money in the kitty to purchase a new system - its not rocket science. In regards to the Holocaust, let's not forget the cause behind it was Hitler and Nazis. So in short - sound system supplied by humans. Holocaust caused by humans.
Beautiful Bird
2016-01-10 09:19:40 UTC
God is not, and never has been, a party to man’s crimes. Is it not man, rather than God, who has been responsible for all the injustices committed throughout the centuries? (Ecclesiastes 8:9) Only the Jews? Did not others in addition to the Jews suffer? The book The Forgotten Holocaust shows that there were three million non-Jewish Poles caught up in the Holocaust. A History of the Modern World refers to the millions of other people involved in it. The catalog of defenseless victims murdered by Nazi tyranny numbs the mind—about six million Jews and millions of other people, including Poles, Slavs, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Gypsies, homosexuals, and the disabled. As the God of righteousness, Jehovah will not forget those who suffered and died unjustly. They will be resurrected, restored to life right here on earth. (Job 14:14, 15; Isaiah 25:6-8) According to God’s own promise, “the former things shall not be remembered, they shall never come to mind.” (Revelation 21:4)
?
2016-01-10 12:40:43 UTC
We may never know the reason's behind God's decisions.



Your cousin's church getting a new sound system isn't because God would rather give him that than save millions of people. Heck, God probably wasn't the cause of that.



God's reasoning and decisions is something beyond the human mind can understand. We may think that he is making the wrong decisions, but he knows what he is doing.
?
2016-01-10 12:50:45 UTC
I'm pleased your cousin's church got a new sound system - but after six months of regular tithes and offerings (I used to go church) obviously meant that there was enough money in the kitty to purchase a new system - its not rocket science. In regards to the Holocaust, let's not forget the cause behind it was Hitler and Nazis. So in short - sound system supplied by humans. Holocaust caused by humans.
Laura
2016-01-09 15:09:27 UTC
Miracles happen- definitely! Remember that (as cheesy as it may sound) anything is possible with God! God gave man free will, the ability to choose what to do with their life, the ability to accept or deny God. The Holocaust was an evil created by humans, influenced someway or another by the devil. Although I do understand... Why wouldn't God put an end to their misery? The truth is, I don't know. But where a lack of human knowledge comes in, faith perserveres. We as humans cannot even hope to imagine God's greatness within our minuscule brains and understanding.
Cath.Ian
2016-01-10 09:54:14 UTC
What an unbelievably 'primitive' question, the sort of thing one would expect from a three year old. God didn't help you get a new sound system. And where was he when the gas chambers were operating in Auschwitz? Right there suffering with the rest.
fixerken
2016-01-09 23:54:24 UTC
You take a bunch of God fearing Christians and put them in a contest that has only one winner, that winner thanks God! Does that mean all others are not like by God?

Organized crime has no problem buying what ever they want from houses, cars, airplanes to cloths, does that mean they have God's approval?

That kind of reasoning is why so many are turning away from being Christian and turning to becoming Atheist, the truth of the matter is God had nothing to do with getting a sound system, Christ Jesus, God's only begotten Son is only concerned about declaring the good news of his Father's Kingdom and not in getting sound systems (Matt 24:14; 2 Tim 4:2).

That kind of thinking would mean that only rich people are approved by God, that comes from the wicked one Satan the Devil, he's the God of this world (1 John 5:19), this is why Jesus said he was no part of this world in the 17th chapter of John!
2016-01-09 07:58:09 UTC
If he stops bad things as they happen there would be no history or obstacles to overcome. The years that the Holocaust took place are just a blink of an eye to him. This entire life until Judgement Day is a blink of an eye to him. He has chosen not to stop things before, why should he do so now when he knows humans have the capability of stopping them themselves? When you ask God why he won't do something ask yourself and others why you won't either.
?
2016-01-09 06:27:49 UTC
Because God isn't a sky genie. There are an infinante number of worlds and a physical and spiritual universe that is conditioned by the movement around the physical location of God. God is not part of this movement and therefore isn't conditioned by time and space. There is no present in the mind of God. So God cannot be surprised or even in control of what happens in the movement which is time and space (the physical universe)
2016-01-09 10:58:44 UTC
The bible is full of written accounts that teach God's favour is on His people. When they rejected His laws and statutes, they lost His blessings and protection. They sometimes went into captivity in Babylon until they came to their senses.



A lot of the children of Israel rejected Jesus and the new covenant God established with His church .. even though the first members came directly out of Judaism. So righteous people in a church who are faithful to His teaching can expect their prayers to be answered when they abide by the covenant that currently applies.



Consider for a moment how many "modern" western people reject God, or blindly follow false and unscriptural doctrines in religions large and small - who depart from the Spirit-led teaching of the New Testament .. is it any wonder that people and nations lose His blessing and the world is overrun by Babylon?
2016-01-10 11:51:16 UTC
The same reason that churches remain wealthy with gold and art while they tell the poor to feed the starving. Whilst your money is in your pocket it's yours. Once you put it the collection plate, it's ours all ours and you can't have it back. God had no say. The churches go against the bibles teachings by doing this.
?
2016-01-09 13:04:17 UTC
Or why did he let Christians go to concentration camps and die for hiding Jews? Or why does a family get killed in a head on by a drunk driver? Or why does a 1 year old get a rare cancer and only lives 6 months more, or why were Rwanda human carnage floating down a river. Why does a person who could care squat about God have wealth and the pleasures of life.
Rodney G
2016-01-10 05:06:42 UTC
Some of the answers above certainly come close to how I see things. When Adam an Eve were created, they were perfect genetically and in all ways. They however wanted to be "Like God, knowing good and bad". In other words they did not want God's Theocracy, but to rule themselves. God permitted this and we see the disastrous results thereof. After the flood of Noah's day, (see Professor Walter J Veith's "Total Onslaught") God, Yahweh made for himself a special people, the Jews and through that nation the Messiah would come, and through Him, all humanity could (if it wished) be saved. Now, remember that the Jews still had free will and much of the time they did not keep their covenant. with Yahweh. During these times which were many, God simply took away his protection that he gave the nation when ruled by Kings the like David and Solomon, and a few others. During such times the surrounding nations would hammer Gods people, because they were "stiff necked" and as a nation disobedient, worshiping Idols, of wood and stone, and Ashoreth poles were popular also. However as now, some individuals would keep God's statutes and God would look out for these. A few people actually practice putting God FIRST above all else. These ones he blesses abundantly. I am fortunate to be so blessed. God can also bless work places and churches etc, where a number of true worshipers are gathered. Now as for the Holocaust, because I am not a judge, I can only offer a suggestion. In the past, there may have been only one or two Jewish people who kept Gods statutes. In fact these (usually prophets) were often stoned to death because they did not want to hear what the prophets said. This too is what happened to Jesus. Perhaps nothing has changed. There were a few Jews escaped Nazi Germany, and they may have been true servants of God. This does not mean that those who were murdered by the Nazis were evil (except to say that in Gods eyes, people's morals are but filthy rags compared to his high standard). By our standard they were likely similar in mix to our own society. The sacrifice of Jesus fixed a major wrong committed by Adam and Eve. (Jesus believed they were real people). Thus we with our filthy rags can be saved if we worship God in Spirit and truth. Thus I feel that most who were murdered were not worshiping in "spirit and truth".

There are also other possibilities also like Hitler despised the Jews because of their wealth, perhaps accumulated during times when God did look put for them for obedience. (previous generations). Other things have been suggested and one of these is that the Jews are being (wrongly) punished for murdering Jesus Christ. Now as for the PA system, the Church may well have a majority of loving Christian disciples, and God maneuvered things in that congregation's favor. In my own congregation, God is constantly refining its love and it is a very welcoming one. We lack nothing, and we help the poor and spread the good news, with healing (my ministry) and people come after being healed. My answer is quite complex I realize but it only scratches the surface. I do hope this is of some help, as it was a serious and well asked question. Blessings to all who read this.
?
2016-01-11 17:28:25 UTC
The American Jewish Congress sent an open letter to Pope John Paul II. It was published in The New York Times. It protested the papal audience granted to Kurt Waldheim, the president of Austria, accused of being involved in the Nazi killing of Jews during World War II. Waldheim was cited as the symbol “of current efforts to diminish, falsify and forget the Holocaust.”



After acknowledging that the agony of the Holocaust could not be undone, the letter said: “But surely the most sacred command of our generation is memory: not to forget how silence became indifference, indifference became complicity, and finally turned into a nightmare of slaughter for millions upon millions.” Waldheim, the letter said, “wishes to inflict on the victims of the Holocaust the final indignity of forgetfulness.” The pope was then castigated because he “put moral principle aside” and received Waldheim at the Vatican. The letter continued:



“Is it possible, Your Holiness, that in Waldheim’s forgetfulness [of the Holocaust] there is an echo, however distant, of the Church’s forgetfulness as well? Has Your Holiness dealt with the indifference of the Catholic churches in Europe to the fate of the Jews during World War II? Not a word on the subject has been uttered in any of your Papal visits to various European countries and to the Death Camps. Despite the extraordinary heroism of so many individual Catholics, isn’t it true that, along with so much of the rest of the world, the official churches were largely silent and abandoned the Jews in their agony? And if the Church, to which millions look for moral guidance, cannot yet come to terms with its past, if it cannot respond to the demands of sacred memory, what hope is there for others?”



Of course, the attempted genocide of millions of Jews does cry out for remembrance. But reflect a moment. When the letter mentions the Holocaust, is it not presented exclusively as a Jewish holocaust? Was it not “to the fate of the Jews” only that the Catholic churches were accused of indifference? And according to this letter, was it not ‘much of the rest of the world and other churches’ that “abandoned the Jews in their agony?” Only the Jews? Did not others in addition to the Jews suffer?

The book The Forgotten Holocaust shows that there were three million non-Jewish Poles caught up in the Holocaust. A History of the Modern World refers to the millions of other people involved in it. Even of the German Jehovah’s Witnesses, non-Witness sources have reported that “some 10,000 were imprisoned” and “more than two thousand perished in concentration camps.”



The Holocaust is not to be regarded, therefore, as an assault on the Jews alone. Hitler was determined to exterminate any group of people that did not bow to his doctrine of Aryan superiority. Jehovah’s Witnesses were included because they believed and applied the Bible principle at Acts 17:26, 27.
JORGE N
2016-01-09 18:45:22 UTC
Why does He let millions if not billions of humans go hungry while I sit here in a coffee shop drinking imported coffee and surfing the Internet for free? Doesn't quite sound fair does it? You would think God was more fair but it appears that He isn't.
jimblejam
2016-01-09 21:13:05 UTC
Some people probably chose to do some very bad things and some were possibly brainwashed or scared into compliance to do bad things. Are you mad at God for giving you free will or something? Nevermind. Don't answer that. People do make mistakes, though that doesn't scratch the surface of empathy needed for the historical event stated.
A.C.
2016-01-08 17:41:13 UTC
I believe in a Creator who rarely interferes in the affairs of humans, but lets us exercise free will. Therefore, humans let the Holocaust go on for so long, whether it was hatred of Jews, apathy or fear of retaliation against their own families if they spoke up. Humans also decided to buckle down and raise the money for the church's sound system in matter of months rather than just putting up with the old one or being apathetic about fund raising for the new one.
?
2016-01-09 09:12:15 UTC
I think what needs to be established in anyone's mind before deciding to believe in God is that physical death and suffering isn't the worst thing that can happen to a human being, dying on earth a sinner leads to eternal death, spending eternity in hell is the worst thing that can happen. Only God knows why he let the holocoust happen but I also know he gave humans free will. Evil and suffering that come from us as humans can be difficult to solve without interfering with our free will
2016-01-09 09:29:02 UTC
The nazis were there for a reason, while your cousin's church probably just got enough money because people gave them money. Where in the bible did it say that you wouldn't experience bad things though? The bible says that things will only get worse because of the evil of humanity.
SupernaturalHunter
2016-01-10 17:27:00 UTC
God wants us to be able to praise Him. So that would explain the sound system. As for the Holocaust, it was mercy and salvation to those who we're Jewish bcz they didn't believe Jesus really was the Messiah.
?
2016-01-09 14:02:59 UTC
FUNNY



the answer humans earned money and paid for the sound system and if you twist stuff enough and claim a god did it your not living in reality but using a human action and CLAIMING it was a "GOD " action



Yes and when the tree limb Blows off a tree and breaks my car window the insurance company Claims it was a "ACT of GOD " another example of how we allowed religion to infuse into society



The truth is it was a cause and effect of natural phenomena called "NATURE There is no cosmic brain floating in space with INTENT
Tico
2016-01-10 06:20:51 UTC
Hardly a comparison. Germany didn't win the war and Hitler's cronies are all burning in hell. Half of his country was handed over to the communists. Life and death is savage. Look in your garden and you'll see how savage it is. There's no place for complacency.
Aleph
2016-01-09 06:03:35 UTC
Experiences by two holocaust survivors:



"Jehovah God is not blind to injustices. He does not turn a blind eye to all the happenings in the world. He is interested. It's not like most of the people say, well why does God permit that? Either he doesn't exist, or if he really exists, here comes the doubt already, well then he doesn't care about us suffering here. He's so far, who knows, up there in the heavens, and he doesn't have to suffer, he has a nice life, enjoyable, and so he couldn't care less what humans have to suffer. And so what's the result? You know, then they lose their faith and trust. And boy, isn't that true? Most people have, if they had so much faith, but that little bit is also gone now. And then people, what is the result, or the response of most of the people? Then they get bitter against God. And haven't you heard that yourself in the service, that people always come with that accusation, if there is a God, why doesn't he do something? Well Jehovah has done something already. He has already installed a government, a righteous government in the heavens, and has given all of us the hope of everlasting life in a new righteous order of things to restore a paradise here on the earth. So Jehovah has done something on his part already for all of us, but we have to hold on." - Rudolf Graichen.



http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/SpecialTalks/Kempler%20Joseph%20-%20Staying%20Faithful%20Under%20Severe%20Persecution.mp3



http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/SpecialTalks/Graichen%20Rudolf%20-%20Staying%20Faithful%20Under%20Severe%20Persecution%20and%20QA.mp3





Why Does God Allow Suffering?



Why does God allow suffering? If Jehovah God is all-powerful, loving, wise, and just, why is the world so full of hatred and injustice? Have you ever wondered about these things yourself?



Some worry that asking such a question means that they do not have enough faith or that they are showing disrespect for God. When reading the Bible, however, you will find that faithful, God-fearing people had similar questions. For example, the prophet Habakkuk asked Jehovah: “Why do you make me witness wrongdoing? And why do you tolerate oppression? Why are destruction and violence before me? And why do quarreling and conflict abound?”—Habakkuk 1:3.



God hates wickedness and the suffering it causes far more than any human does. (Isaiah 55:8, 9) Why, then, is there so much suffering in the world?



Do you know why people make the mistake of blaming God for all the suffering in the world? In many cases, they blame Almighty God because they think that he is the real ruler of this world. They do not know a simple but important truth that the Bible teaches. The real ruler of this world is Satan the Devil.



The Bible clearly states: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) When you think about it, does that not make sense? This world reflects the personality of the invisible spirit creature who is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Revelation 12:9) Satan is hateful, deceptive, and cruel. So the world, under his influence, is full of hatred, deceit, and cruelty. That is one reason why there is so much suffering.



A second reason why there is so much suffering is that..mankind has been imperfect and sinful ever since the rebellion in the garden of Eden. Sinful humans tend to struggle for dominance, and this results in wars, oppression, and suffering. (Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9) A third reason for suffering is “time and unexpected events.” (Read Ecclesiastes 9:11.) In a world without Jehovah as a protective Ruler, people may suffer because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.



To find out why God allows suffering, we need to think back to the time when suffering began. When Satan led Adam and Eve into disobeying Jehovah, an important question was raised. (Read Genesis 3:2-5.) Satan implied that mankind would be better off without God’s rulership. This was an attack on Jehovah’s sovereignty, his right to rule. Adam and Eve rebelled against Jehovah. In effect, they said: ‘We do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.’



Let us consider an illustration. Imagine that a teacher is telling his students how to solve a difficult problem. A clever but rebellious student claims that the teacher’s way of solving the problem is wrong. Implying that the teacher is not capable, this rebel insists that he knows a much better way to solve the problem. Some students think that he is right, and they also become rebellious. What should the teacher do? If he throws the rebels out of the class, what will be the effect on the other students? Will they not believe that their fellow student and those who joined him are right? All the other students in the class might lose respect for the teacher, thinking that he is afraid of being proved wrong. But suppose that the teacher allows the rebel to show the class how he would solve the problem.



Jehovah has done something similar to what the teacher does. Remember that the rebels in Eden were not the only ones involved. Millions of angels were watching. (Job 38:7; Daniel 7:10) How Jehovah handled the rebellion would greatly affect all those angels and eventually all intelligent creation. So, what has Jehovah done? He has allowed Satan to show how he would rule mankind. God has also allowed humans to govern themselves under Satan’s guidance.



The teacher in our illustration knows that the rebel and the students on his side are wrong. But he also knows that allowing them the opportunity to try to prove their point will benefit the whole class. When the rebels fail, all honest students will see that the teacher is the only one qualified to lead the class. They will understand why the teacher thereafter removes any rebels from the class. Similarly, Jehovah knows that all honesthearted humans and angels will benefit from seeing that Satan and his fellow rebels have failed and that humans cannot govern themselves. Like Jeremiah of old, they will learn this vital truth: “I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.”—Jeremiah 10:23.



Allowing time to pass has thus been necessary. In the thousands of years of human history, mankind has been able to try every form of self-rule, or human government. Mankind has made some advances in science and other fields, but injustice, poverty, crime, and war have grown ever worse. Human rule has now been shown to be a failure.



Second, Jehovah has not helped Satan to rule this world. If God were to prevent horrible crimes, for instance, would he not, in effect, be supporting the case of the rebels? Would God not be making people think that perhaps humans can govern themselves without disastrous results? If Jehovah were to act in that way, he would become party to a lie. However, “it is impossible for God to lie.”—Hebrews 6:18.



Humans were created with free will. So the question is, how will you use the free will that Jehovah has given you? Satan, Adam, and Eve made the worst possible use of free will. They rejected Jehovah God. What will you do?



You have the opportunity to put the marvelous gift of free will to the best possible use. You can join the millions who have taken a stand on Jehovah’s side. They make God rejoice because they take an active part in proving Satan a liar and a miserable failure as a ruler. (Proverbs 27:11) You too can do that by choosing the right course of life.



https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/why-does-god-allow-suffering/
Whatsupdoc
2016-01-11 08:24:53 UTC
You seem to think God is a fairy Godmother. He's not. He watches as humans disobey his commands like naughty children who are out of control. He has to pick up the pieces afterwards when you ask him to help, as you have seen from all the remembrance services for Charlie Hebdo, etc.



The desire for worldly goods, like Stereo systems, comes from Satan.
Jimbo
2016-01-10 04:46:12 UTC
Sometimes Christians ascribe miracles to God that He had nothing to do with. The Holocaust was man's inhumanity to man. God had nothing to do with it. Your cousin's church go their sound equipment through their own labor or donations. The Holocaust took place because the Jews and the world turned a blind eye to evil and went to their own slaughter like sheep rather than resist the evil before them.
2016-01-08 21:44:23 UTC
I heard about this guy that was taken to the ghettos when the nazis were collecting them.



He became the head honcho of the place and began using his power to repeatedly rape women of his choosing. If they didn't **** him they went hungry and would also have any protection they had left taken away.



If god is a being of love and he doesn't protect someone then they must be doing something pretty fuckin bad wouldn't you say?



I can also say with certainty that no being of love would buy a sound system for someone to blast people's ears with the doctrine of hell.
laidawestbrook2
2016-01-12 07:26:48 UTC
1 Thessalonians 2:5 In fact, at no time have we turned up either with flattering speech,+ (just as YOU know) or with a false front*+ for covetousness,+ God is witness! 6 Neither have we been seeking glory from men,+ no, either from YOU or from others, though we could be an expensive burden*+ as apostles of Christ. 7 To the contrary, we became gentle* in the midst of YOU, as when a nursing mother cherishes+ her own children. 8 So, having a tender affection for YOU,+ we were well pleased to impart to YOU, not only the good news of God, but also our own souls,*+ because YOU became beloved+ to us.

9 Certainly YOU bear in mind, brothers, our labor and toil. It was with working+ night and day, so as not to put an expensive burden upon any one of YOU,+ that we preached the good news of God to YOU. 10 YOU are witnesses, God is also, how loyal and righteous and unblamable+ we proved to be to YOU believers. 11 In harmony with that YOU well know how, as a father+ does his children, we kept exhorting+ each one of YOU, and consoling and bearing witness to YOU, 12 to the end that YOU should go on walking+ worthily of God who is calling+ YOU to his kingdom+ and glory. This is the example ministers of God should follow and not put an expensive burden on the congregation.
Candy
2016-01-09 13:26:11 UTC
God relates with mankind, as individuals, as groups, or even entire nation and'or even as an entirety of a species, AS THEY WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AT TO RELATE BACK WITH HIM. It is up to mankind at to take care for the things, of mankind. The church, related at with God at for the means to would get their sound system in less than six months(Actually, even they, are sorta EXTEMELYslow at how to relate, really), and mankind as an entire species only related with God in at to would acknowledge Him enough to would end that particular suffering of the Jews at in a way it would take indeed, even years. God would like, totally agree with you, mankind is a really slow at betterment/s. Like, for example, some people, aren't even a mature enough at even yet, to would even believe in him?
Name
2016-01-10 17:18:28 UTC
So the news of a surround sound system somehow brought your mind to the Holocaust?
2016-01-09 13:13:29 UTC
Why not ask God? Also, if you had ever looked at a bible in your life you would know that all such things as the holocaust, and similar events were foretold. Ignorant. Why ask such a question when you do not believe in God?
L
2016-01-08 19:47:20 UTC
The same reason why innocent men,women and children are suffering all over the World. And the rich get richer and greedier. Because he doesn't exist. People should stop wasting time worshiping God and spend the time helping people who truly need help and love.
Samuel
2016-01-09 22:09:01 UTC
First, lets define who God is. Based on the Christian faith God is an all powerful, all knowing, and eternal being who is loving, but just. Based your scenario God does not sound loving at all.



Second, did God allow the Holocaust specifically because he hated the Jews. If so than that would contradict the bible because in Genesis 1:27 its says, "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them". If we take that verse into mind that would mean God loves everyone equally regardless if your a Jew, Christian, Muslim, Atheist and etc. So that means God doesn't hate the person, but he hates the sin. The only thing blocking people from going to heaven is sin, but if we recognize and accept that we are sinners and believe on Jesus Christ as the one who can take away our sins we won't have to deal with separation from God (hell) in the afterlife. In John 3:16 it says,



"16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life"



Third, we also have to keep in mind of the original sin where both Adam and Eve chose (were not forced by God= freewill) to disobey God and eat the fruit from the knowledge of good and evil. In Genesis 2:15-17 it says



"15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”



When both of them disobeyed God, physically they did not die, but they died spiritually. All of us are descendants of Adam and Eve meaning we are all born sinners. In Isaiah 1:28 it says, " But rebels and sinners will both be broken, and those who forsake the Lord will perish" and in Romans 6:23 its says" For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord". So death is not really the result of God allowing it, but because of man's choice to disobey God.



Well thats all I got for now. All I advise you to do is read and really study the Bible if you really want to know more. I'll try to post again. Also, if their is any questions or objections (which i am probably sure there are going to be) i'll try to answer them ASAP.
Coop 366
2016-01-10 16:09:50 UTC
In both cases it is the people not God doing this but you are looking for a reason to put God down, just using your God given right of Freewill.
Albert
2016-01-11 08:26:37 UTC
Is it not man, rather than God, who has been responsible for all the injustices committed throughout the centuries? (Ecclesiastes 8:9) It is as historian Arnold Toynbee stated: “Human beings are unique in being able to be wicked, because they are unique in being conscious of what they are doing and in making deliberate choices.” So man’s misuse of his own free will has resulted in untold suffering.
kim
2016-01-09 22:26:40 UTC
I would not presume to understand the universe or Gods order, his ways are far above our ways. He has the power and he created the universe and gave us his only Son that whom ever shall believe in him will not die but will be raised again on the last day. We are born with souls and degrees of faith, and we either trust God or not. We choose heaven or hell. We choose to carry our crosses and have faith or not. Even the apostles of Christ said Lord increase our faith!
2016-01-09 18:09:43 UTC
It is kind of difficult for finite beings to explain the "why" of the actions of an Infinite Being. Sorry I couldn't help.
?
2016-01-08 23:11:42 UTC
Because god is love. It says so in the bible. If it is in a book it must be real. Unless it is a science book that disproves creationism :')
2016-01-08 18:33:07 UTC
A couple reasons.

1 The Jews are disobeying Him. Jesus fulfilled the old covenant.

2 It was what He used to bring the Jews back to Israel. (They are in the wrong, but they are still Gods chosen people. Plus, it is written that the Jews would return to Israel.)

3 Who says it was God that got it for them? Maybe the church is a church that doesn't preach the true Gospel. If so, Satan is happy to help.
Guru Hank
2016-01-09 18:39:14 UTC
'No man comes to the Father, but through me'.



The Jews deny Christ.
The Notorious Doctor Zoom Zoom
2016-01-09 09:47:53 UTC
Because God is not real. The Holocaust WAS real though.
Jemma
2016-01-09 08:57:07 UTC
I really doubt god bought the sound system or was probably generous people who donated
Richard English
2016-01-09 00:37:14 UTC
You have the details wrong. The Holocaust was caused by Adolf Hitler, not by god. Simple history proves this basic fact.
2016-01-09 11:43:46 UTC
Didn't you get the memo? He stopped caring about Jews 2,000 years ago.
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2016-01-09 17:09:21 UTC
The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind. - Psalm 115:16
Uncle Thesis
2016-01-08 17:18:53 UTC
You make a valid point.

At the same time you overlook 1 John 5:19.

It says the god of this world is Satan.

The Creator has nothing to do with the world today.
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2016-01-09 21:23:30 UTC
Because people reward people for their hate against G-D so they can pretend to be deities. Since Jews don't conform to idolatry, people hated them and have tortured them for being truthful.
Schmoolie
2016-01-10 17:04:56 UTC
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
?
2016-01-09 06:17:38 UTC
There is not a single doubt that God has some f*cked up system of prioritizing.
Patrick
2016-01-09 13:49:20 UTC
this is a loaded question, it's not a genuine question,it's a statement of unbelief and ridicule
2016-01-08 18:44:42 UTC
God also answers the prayers of republican Christians in America while allowing children in 3rd world countries to starve to death.
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2016-01-09 23:59:53 UTC
This life is a test. God allows free will. All will be better if you do the right thing.
2016-01-08 17:14:46 UTC
Sound systems seem to be fairly high on the priority list. Especially if you can afford to pay for them...
2016-01-10 14:39:07 UTC
Why ask us plebs! Have a chat with God and he'll tell you!
?
2016-01-09 11:15:47 UTC
The jews cried at Jesus's sentencing, " His blood shall be on us and on our children!"

They made their choice.
brother trucker
2016-01-08 17:17:57 UTC
Because God uses humans to carry out His will in this world. Humans were willing to build the organ but they hesitated far too long before destroying the Nazi regime. Sometimes our values are not Gods values. It is still good to thank God for all of His many mercies.
hillbilly
2016-01-08 16:57:40 UTC
Silly person. Can't reason.
?
2016-01-08 17:40:12 UTC
Because not all Jews were not obeying God. God told all Jews, when they obey God - he blesses them. when they disobey God the blessing is removed. Since they are chosen by God over other tribes of the world, their blessing would be better and their curse will be worse than experienced by other tribes.



God will always save those who are worthy to be saved. That's why Jews still exist today, as a people and culture distinctly different from where the people they went to live with, then they were kicked out of Jewish lands. That's why even though a lot of Jews died in Holocaust, the ones who survived are still one of the riches people in the world and one of the smartest people in the world. You can't say the rest of the ancient civilizations are still around or share the same privileges of blessing - they have been incorporated into other societies and lost their identities as a result.



Same concept is applied to Christianity. I heard of a church in England from a pastor in England that was destroyed by a lightning causing a fire. The head of that church was teaching against God. They tried to rebuild it and put in state of the art lightning protection. Another lightning cause by a tiny cloud (sky was clear except for that tiny cloud and there were witnesses) fried the whole system. God just do not want that church around and rebuilt.
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2016-01-10 10:08:42 UTC
perhaps your credid bought it on credit, alas the the Jews could not. Read history
2016-01-10 01:35:17 UTC
he gave us freedom of Choice it is Not Gods domain But ours he only wants people in heaven who choose to be there
?
2016-01-10 10:06:20 UTC
The ways of the Lord are not for us to know!
2016-01-09 10:23:45 UTC
GOD and in the name of GOD , both are different
?
2016-01-08 16:56:18 UTC
Personally, I doubt the validity of that particular event.



There are simply too many holes in the official story that we are told to believe without questioning.
Dr Yes level 9 since 1999
2016-01-08 17:43:12 UTC
Ever since God had that affair with that Jewish chick, and she had his little bastard, he has distanced himself from the Jews.
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2016-01-09 23:16:21 UTC
Free will god ways are not our ways
Smartassawhip
2016-01-09 03:55:36 UTC
We can't tell what God's reasons are sometimes. Why did God allow His only begotten Son to suffer so much pain and misery on the Cross? The Bible said it was because God loves us so much and wants to forgive us our sins. Why did Jesus allow it. He said He didn't have to. That His Father asked Him to and He could have said no but He said Yes because He loves us so much. What does suffering have to do with love? The word love in English really has no specific definition which is why people are so confused about it. You have to add a prefix like family love, or true love (whatever that is), brotherly love, or romantic love. The New Testament is written in Greeks have completely different words for different kinds of love. There is eros for erotic or romantic love, filio, for family love, and agape for what Jesus called the highest kind of love. Agape is not a feeling or emotion like the other kind of loves. Emotions may accompany it but are not necessary. It is a decision and it is an irrevocable decision that cannot be taken away nor the person or God change their mind. Agape is a decision to always speak and act in the best interest of the other even if it causes some suffering on the part of the person or God who decides to agape someone. When Jesus said, There is no greater love than if a man lays down his life for his friends. That was said in the Greek ands the word was agape and Jesus was talking about Himself although He wants us to agape others also. So, it is God's and Jesus's willingness to undergo this amazingly great suffering of God watching His only begotten Son be Crucified and Jesus allowing them to Crucify them when He didn't have to that proves their amazingly great agape love for us. Where am I going? Please be patient as I have to talk about this to answer the question.



Remember the tree in the Garden of Eden that God commanded Adam and Eve to not eat the fruit of. It was the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil." Also remember that Satan was a liar and wanted Adam and Eve to eat from this tree. If the tree really gave the knowledge of good and evil Satan wouldn't have wanted them to eat the fruit of this tree. No, what the tree gave was the idea that a human by thinking could decide for himself what WAS GOOD OR EVIL AND NOT HAVE TO OBEY God's Commandments that God gave us to keep us from pain and suffering because He loves us. Satan, the liar told Eve that God did not love us, was a bad god, and wanted to keep us down. That if she ate the fruit she could be like the God's knowing good from evil.



So Satan lied and told Eve that God was a bad God and that we shouldn't keep His Commandments. Because both God and Jesus allowed themselves to suffer such great suffering for us it proves how much that they love us and that Satan is ar. Satan still lies about that and you can even see the results of that in some of the answers here.



Ok, now for the answer. Why did God allow the 12 tribes of Israel to suffer so long or at all in the Holocaust.? I think it has something to do with the relationship between Jesus and Israel. If you read my comments you read that the apostles said the scripture, "I called my son out of Egypt" which was written about God delivering the 122 tribes of Israel out of Egypt into the land of Israel, also applied to Jesus when He could return to Israel after He was in Egypt to prevent Herod from killing Him. I also remember that at least 1 of the Apostles said, Never forget that1 day with The Lord (LORD God, Yahweh) is as a thousand years." Never forget is a pretty strong statement. Jesus was dead for 3 days or rather was Resurrected on the 3rd Day. The 12 tribes of Israel were removed from Israel almost 2000 years before returning in 1947. Their return to Israel is similar to Jesus Resurrection. Also remember that when Jesus returns He will rule the world for 1000 years. 2000 years until the 12 tribes of Israel returned to the land of Israel and 1000 years of Jesus rule on Earth make 3 days or 3000 Years. It does seem to me that the Holocaust of the 12 tribes of Israel is similar and relates to Jesus Crucifixion. Was God cruel to do that. Remember that God asked Jesus to come to Earth and be Crucified but He could have said no. He said yes because He loves us so much. What if each of the people of the 12 Tribes of Israel also volunteered for the Holocaust before they were born because they love God so much. I know that is a stretch but it fits in with all the other things. One thing we know for sure, both God our Father and Jesus His Son agape us so much that they were willing to endure such suffering to save us from our sins and to prove to us that Satan is a liar, the Commandments are for our benefit, and that they love (agape) us more than the human mind is capable of understanding. Glory be to God.
Ernest S
2016-01-08 16:53:00 UTC
The problem here is that if He gives you longer in which to repent, if you don't then your judgfement will be the greater.



or if He should give you sufferings as an incentive to turn ...





What do you suppose He should do in your case?



And is your case any different from any other?
?
2016-01-08 16:49:49 UTC
God works in mysterious ways



Equally interesting is why he (god) allows faith healers to heal the ill in a paying environment and not in hospitals
2016-01-09 12:46:01 UTC
God did no such things
2016-01-08 22:07:20 UTC
He's not real.
Jason B
2016-01-09 19:36:42 UTC
GOD saves children and babies and people who haven t heard of Jesus (Native Americans before 1492)..oNCE cOLUMBUS AND OTHERS INVAdED THE naTIVE amERIcAN HOMELAND IT WAS ALL OVeR FOR THE naTIVES BECAUSE OF jESUS...
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2016-01-08 18:58:07 UTC
because god doesnt exist... idk thats just my thoughts, i started wondering things like this a while ago and decided that until theres proof i better just not go out and flaunt things about how great my god is if hes letting people die...
2016-01-10 09:51:28 UTC
Could it be there is no God?
2016-01-09 09:04:46 UTC
hello this is 21th century, no more miracles dude
Felicia
2016-01-11 07:42:51 UTC
huh
?
2016-01-08 16:49:22 UTC
Jeremiah 30 God would of been a liar if he didn't
2016-01-09 13:59:59 UTC
Because... THERE IS NO GOD!
?
2016-01-09 09:01:52 UTC
God loves that bass, duh!


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