Are Jehovah Witnesses considered false prophets and part or are the actual AntiChrist?

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2013-09-11 22:46:50 UTC

The men they follow are. The governing body. They worship these men, defend them when they have been proven false, change their teachings, or commit illegal acts. They turn a blind eye to facts presented to them about their organization and will never research what is told to them.

They hate and name call anyone who has found truth in Jesus. They shun them and call them apostates.

Research the history of the jehovahs witness organization, all the way to the founder Charles Taze Russel. many of their beliefs stem from spirit medium, Johannes Greber, he was deep into satanic occult. Research the law suits of child molestations/rapes that were covered up due to their corporate policies & the 2 witness rule(when a child is raped if there are not 2witnessess the matter is disregarded & the pedophile remains in the congregation, the child must live with this and face the predator at each meeting).They are told to leave the matter in jehovahs hands and not report to authorities. Gag orders are placed on the victims.

The recent Candice Conti case may help you understand.It is not an isolated incident. Their organization broke ceasers laws many many times. Never reporting child sexual abuse & leaving children in danger.

They preach they have no part of the military. Yet their corporation has stocks in Rand cam, naval military equipment & were members of the united nations for 10 years without the lower ranking members finding out. They resigned when the covers were blown in a British newspaper.

Johanes Greber & jw's(mute the sound)

http://youtu.be/HdR0DO1BL2Q

http://youtu.be/VlCn7pBdkrU

Candice Contie verdict explained

http://youtu.be/_ELBt4mA7sI

Randcam, stock in military naval equipment (securities & exchange comission)

http://youtu.be/ayZpOSA9Lgw

jw's bible the NWT

http://youtu.be/kjtBq5mG_Wg

faulty foundation of the jw's ( mute the sound on the video, it distracts from the content)

http://youtu.be/joU-Pe6YqME

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Tim in '66

2013-09-12 08:21:49 UTC

I don't really get your comment, "I questioned them if they were considered to be "false Prophets" or the "AntiChrist" THEY LIED and said they were not and even showed me in their bible that they were not but somehow I honestly don't believe them."

Why are you even asking this question if you can honestly say that "they lied"? You add, they "showed me in their bible that they were not but somehow I honestly don't believe them," which just throws even more confusion into your saying "they lied."

If you KNOW they lied, then where is your evidence? Instead you say "they lied" and then you seem to be asking y!a forum members whether it is true that they lied or not.

That's like a judge in a court of law saying that the defendant is guilty and then asking counsel for the prosecution and for the defense to present their cases.

The JW Governing Body has made wrong predictions in the past, but there has never been one that was with anything other than pure motive, with no intent to deceive.

Insofar as their being the anti-Christ, if you have, as you say, "been studying the bible with the Jehovah Witnesses from some time now," how would you reach such a conclusion?

Let me ask you, when you look at scriptures such as Matthew 28:19,20; 10:11-14; 24:14; and Luke 8:1, who do you identify as preaching the good news of God's Kingdom, in obedience to Jesus' commands, and as he prophesied would be done globally in the "conclusion of the system of things"? [Matt.24:3] Matthew 24:14 [NWT] reads: "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."

Who, other than Jehovah's Witnesses, is doing that work? In my 63 years, I have never had anyone other than JWs come to my door to preach the good news of God's Kingdom, in obedience to Christ's command.

If JWs are the ANTI-Christ, why would they be the only ones doing that kingdom preaching work globally as Jesus commanded?

How does that make any sense?

There will always be a rash of naysayers on forums such as this that will eagerly supply you with their versions of "proofs," but not one of them will be able to refute what I have said above.

Why is that, do you think?

Tiny

2013-09-11 13:29:55 UTC

If you studied the bible with Jehovah witnesses for some time you would know the answer to this question. The Bible clearly identifies who the false prophet and Antichrist are. You said they showed you from the bible but you don't believe them. Well that's your choice. So really it's not them that you don't believe, it's Jehovah God that you don't believe since you don't believe in what the bible says. So really you are calling God a liar.

Qwe

2013-09-11 14:10:24 UTC

I dont believe your a Jehovahs Witness. Are you an apostate?

We cant be False Prophets because we dont beleive in them or any thing else in are old magazines.

We arent the Antichrist that is the pope who use to be Michael the ArcAngel in some of are old books. We no they were written by bad "imperfect" men becasue they have pagan cymbals on them writen by satan and forcinating apostates,

We dont drink the wine or crackers at teh memorial ((only the realy old ones do it and we dont believe them any way) and that does NOT mean we are anti- "christ " we just want to be in paraside earth with him.,

We dont have pagan ceblerations like anniversaries or baby birth day showers and any thing thats fun for worldy people.

We dont have anticrist symbols like crosses or 666s or penticles or goths any more just things in all are old books

CF

2013-09-11 12:54:34 UTC

Some opposers claim that Jehovah’s Witnesses are false prophets. These opponents say that dates have been set, but nothing has happened. Again we ask, What is the motive of these critics? Are they encouraging wakefulness on the part of God’s people, or are they, rather, trying to justify themselves for falling back into sleepy inactivity? (1 Thessalonians 5:4-9) More importantly, what will you do if you hear such criticism? If a person is questioning whether we are living in “the last days” of this system, or perhaps is entertaining ideas that God is so merciful that he surely will not cause the death of so many millions of people during the “great tribulation,” then this individual already has prepared his heart to listen to such criticisms.—2 Timothy 3:1; Matthew 24:21.

Yes, Jehovah’s people have had to revise expectations from time to time. Because of our eagerness, we have hoped for the new system earlier than Jehovah’s timetable has called for it. But we display our faith in God’s Word and its sure promises by declaring its message to others. Moreover, the need to revise our understanding somewhat does not make us false prophets or change the fact that we are living in “the last days,” soon to experience the “great tribulation” that will pave the way for the earthly Paradise. How foolish to take the view that expectations needing some adjustment should call into question the whole body of truth! The evidence is clear that Jehovah has used and is continuing to use his one organization, with “the faithful and discreet slave” taking the lead. Hence, we feel like Peter, who said: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.”—John 6:68.

Only in the spiritual paradise, among Jehovah’s Witnesses, can we find the self-sacrificing love Jesus said would identify his true disciples. (John 13:34, 35) By their bad fruits, false prophets are exposed for what they really are. But Jesus indicated that the good trees would be identified by their fine fruits. (Matthew 7:15-20) And what fine fruitage we have in the spiritual paradise! Amazing increases are taking place in practically every country. Over (7,000,000) happy subjects of God’s Kingdom around the globe are living proof that Jehovah has a people on the earth.

Because they are taught by God, Jehovah’s Witnesses really produce the fruits of Christianity in their lives. (Isaiah 54:13) Only Jehovah’s people have completely broken free from Babylonish superstitions. Only they have an organization that completely abides by what God’s Word has to say on sexual immorality, abortions, drunkenness, stealing, idolatry, racial prejudice, and other worldly pursuits and practices. And they alone are the ones obeying the command to preach the good news of Jehovah’s Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14) God’s own Word unquestionably points to Jehovah’s Witnesses as the one organized people that have his blessing!

What or who is the antichrist mentioned at 1 John 2:18; 4:3?

In a broad sense, “antichrist” refers to all who oppose or lyingly claim to be Christ or his representatives. The words of Jesus and John show that the antichrist is a composite entity made up of many individual antichrists who spread religious deception and reject God’s Kingdom.—12/1, pages 4-6.

troll to troll

2013-09-12 20:44:16 UTC

The Jehovah's Witnesses follow the Faithful and Discreet Slave.

For many years the Governing Body has take up the nicname of FDS.

They claim to feed the domestics, take this as animals or servant/slaves, the right food at the proper time.

The FDS claim to be anointed.

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Anointed in Greek is ""christos"" or directly translated christ.

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Anti Christ in Greek directly translates to ""instead of Christ"".

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Is the Governing Body '"christs"'?

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Is the the Governing Body acting in-stead of Christ?

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The Governing Body is claiming to be divine.

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Are they anointed (christs) and spokesmen for god jeh hovah?

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Now let us look at the Wath Tower quote given:

What or who is the antichrist mentioned at 1 John 2:18; 4:3?

In a broad sense, “antichrist” refers to all who oppose or lyingly claim to be Christ or his representatives. The words of Jesus and John show that the antichrist is a composite entity made up of many individual antichrists who spread religious deception and reject God’s Kingdom.—12/1, pages 4-6.

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Does this quote fit the Governing Body?

Candy

2013-09-11 12:33:40 UTC

Its not to speak in defense of JW's, but they are no more anti-Christ than a trinitatrian,who aren't even really even monotheists, but pagans. At least JW's know how many "One God" is, and that 1+1+1, doesn't equal 1. All trinitarians are anti-christ Which is in fact most the world's professed Christians. They teach a Christ that never existed and is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible. The trinity is a 1700 year old flat out satanic version of Christianity that would make the first century Apostles want to barf. Trinitarians are the Pharisees and Sadducees of our day, and the persecutes of all other faiths, as well that of the true faith of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ will even say to a countless many of them, perhaps even most "I never even knew you", and they will rot in hell forever for the hate they spewed, against JW's, and everyone Else, too..

H.E.AVENly EYES ! ! !

2013-09-11 12:32:59 UTC

SOME people in Christendom consider JWs to b false prophets or the actual AntiChrist.

and there are ENDLESS arguments for and against !

so how do u know who's telling u the truth

well just one way would b to determine for your SELF whether or not u have felt Jehovah Gods VERY POWERFUL Holy Spirit while u were having one of ur studies with Jehovah's Witnesses.

now if u have felt this very powerful Holy Spirit while studying with Jehovah's Witnesses then simply do not let ANYone tell u that u didn't !

because that very same Holy Spirit is (PROOF POSITIVE) that u have found the TRUE religion !

Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the Following !

Jesus is NOT God but rather is Gods Son (John 1:1 NWT)

The Father is GREATER than Jesus (John 14:28)

The Holy Spirit is Gods Active Force and is NOT a Person

Gods Name is Jehovah (Psalms 83:18 KJV)

Your Soul is YOU and is NOT immortal

Hell is NOT a place of Eternal Torment but rather is simply the COMMON GRAVE of mankind. Hell is basically a SLEEP-like condition

MOST people now dead will b resurrected to Eternal Life on a Paradise Earth

Jehovah's Witnesses do not celebrate PAGAN holidays such as Christmas and Easter

Jehovah's Witnesses take SERIOUSLY Gods Command 2 ABSTAIN from Blood (Acts chapter 15)

Jehovah's Witnesses do not involve themselves in petty NATIONALISTIC wars of mankind thus fulfilling Jesus command 2 love ur neighbor as yourself ! .

4 more info on what JWs believe try http://www.jw.org/

TJ.

2013-09-11 12:42:59 UTC

Any answer on False Prophets will be skip in their head .. the have a fallacy or tendency to respond that

"God's People dont Lie only make Mistake because of human error in interpreting the holy spirit's message"...

So debating on false prophets are useless to them because of the belief and who their Representative is and More recently, the WTS has tried to escape the "false prophet" label by saying Jehovah's Witnesses have not made prophecies in God's name. "Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah.'" (Awake! March 22, 1993, p. 4)

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Even if we show it to their face the truth,,,from the bible will be discarded .. ( So much for people to claimed that the Bible is from God..)

Edit: the 1914 Generation is an example

The most recent prophetic failure is likely to have the greatest impact on JWs: 'New truths' in the November 1, 1995 Watchtower magazine changed the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses concerning "the generation that saw the events of 1914," and the November 8, 1995 Awake! drops that magazine's long-standing prophecy.

Ever since the late 1940's Awake! magazine had been promising the "sure hope for the establishment of a righteous New World" on page 2 of each issue. Then in 1964 it added the thought that this would happen "in this generation" -- "...reflecting sure hope for the establishment of God's righteous new order in this generation."

In 1975 it was no longer Awake! magazine's promise but now became the Creator's promise: "...the Creator's promise of a new order of lasting peace and true security within our generation." -- January 8, 1975

It was a very serious step to add this expression, "the Creator's promise," since it meant that the Watchtower Society (the magazine's publisher) was now prophesying in the Creator's name -- in God's name. The Creator warns in the Bible against doing this without receiving a command from Him to do so:

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But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. -- Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NIV

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Did the Creator really command the Society to say that He promised the new order would come "within our generation"? Elsewhere, the Society specified more precisely what it meant by "our generation":

"Jesus was obviously speaking about those who were old enough to witness with understanding what took place when the 'last days' began....Even if we presume that youngsters 15 years of age would be perceptive enough to realize the import of what happened in 1914, it would still make the youngest of 'this generation' nearly 70 years old today....Jesus said that the end of this wicked world would come before that generation passed away in death." -- Awake! October 8, 1968, pages 13-14

In 1982 the Watchtower Society changed the prophecy on page 2 of each Awake! issue to include the same thought about 1914. It was no longer a vague "our generation" that would see the world's end, but the generation that saw the events of 1914: "...the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new order before the generation that saw the events of 1914 C.E. passes away." (January 8, 1982)

Nearly identical wording repeated the same prophecy in each issue until January 8, 1987, when Awake! magazine's statement of purpose was moved to page 4 in a redesigned format. Starting with that issue, the 1914 generation prophecy was dropped entirely. Then it was restored on page 4 of the March 8, 1988 issue -- "...the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away" -- wording that continued to appear through October, 1995.

By then, however, the generation that saw the events of 1914 had largely passed away. All that remained were a relatively few surviving individuals in their late 90's -- people nearly a hundred years old.

Obviously, the prophecy had failed.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22, quoted earlier, supplies the basis for determining the answer. It states that its words of condemnation apply when what a "prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true."

Was the prediction spoken "in the name of the LORD"? Yes, because it was introduced as "the Creator's promise."

crosseyed

2013-09-11 13:53:41 UTC

hi there.

no, jws are not false prophets.

they follow a false prophet - the watchtower.

they said Christians would die in the streets in their millions in 1918.

we didn't.

false.

very persuasive false prophet, sure. has all the coercive persuasion techniques readily deployed against their own followers. but still false.

the antichrist spirit says jesus is not come in the flesh.

jws say jesus was raised a spirit creature, who materialized bodies complete with nail wounds, just to fool people that he had been resurrected.

this is against what the bible says.

jesus is sufficient.

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2013-09-11 22:47:28 UTC

As you were studying with JWs, did. they mention to you that Jesus is not your mediator ?

The Watchtower teaches that Jesus is mediator of only 144000 who include the Watchtower leaders....

Although JWs claim to be the only true Christians , in reality,there is little content about Jesus their literature ,meetings and even in their songs. ..but more on obedience to the Faithful Slave, their leaders. ...

The Watchtower is a false prophet that has drawn JWs away from Jesus and replaced him as mediator.

?

2013-09-11 12:28:32 UTC

You do know that nowhere in the Bible do you find "the Antichrist", right?

Autobot Gemini Grimlock

2013-09-11 12:26:06 UTC

>.< *facepalm*

JWs are not antichrists. What bogus religion said they were?

I think you got it right when you said, "I honestly don't believe.."

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2013-09-11 12:30:09 UTC

if you want to know what hell is like carry on with them otherwise leave. they are not the only religion to say they are with God but are so far from God that God wants none of them

2013-09-11 12:32:45 UTC

History itself has fully discredited the JWs as FALSE PROPHETS .

Everything about them is right here

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/changed-watchtower-teachings.php

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