Question:
Why do atheists doubt the existence of Jesus but not Buddha and Muhammad?
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2015-01-07 21:54:09 UTC
Muhammad.... idk there's quite a bit of evidence for his existence but how can we be sure it's verifiable?

Siddhārtha Gautama Shakyamuni on the other hand, was definitely most likely just a legend like you claim Jesus was. Just a metaphor for the Buddha but not actually literally the first Buddha.
Fourteen answers:
Martin T
2015-01-08 04:30:21 UTC
I doubt them all.

In each case, there is a lot of evidence that - some considerable time after the event - that many people were convinced that they had existed.



I have had a close look at the evidence for the existence of Jesus and it strikes me as fairly good. I have not examined the evidence for the other 2; however I know that many people doubt their existence, or claim that the accounts we have of them were written a long time after the event and are not reliable.



In the case of the Buddha it scarcely matters. Anyone who is interested can check it for themselves: Is it true that living according to certain precepts will help to clear the mind and dispel psychological suffering? Try it and find out!



The precise identity of the originator of the ideas is not so important.



Also, we are all potentially Buddhas. Those Buddhists who believe in reincarnation believe that eventually everyone will become a Buddha.
2015-01-07 22:15:33 UTC
I actually have more belief in sidhartha Ghutama the the Prince who became the Buddha than the other two.



Buddha was not and totally denied he was a prophet or from God in any way.

Buddism is a religion without God ..a wonderful philosophy of doing good and living peacefully.

When he was asked about God..if there was a God, he just smiled and told them not to concern themselves about a creator but to focus on now.

Buddha was here 500 years before the Jesus story came about. The story of Jesus is very much like a myth. In General its good and wonderful to live by..but people diified the myth..

Buddha isn't worshipped as a God or anything..he never wanted that.

But I respect his teachings. They've changed my life.

I'm a former Christian.
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2015-01-07 22:07:03 UTC
There are hundreds of established evidences for the existence of Buddha and Muhammad. We atheists rely on evidences. There are plenty of reasonable evidences including multiple literary/historical sources confirming existence of Buddha and Muhammad and the timeline matches. Keyword here is other/impartial sources. There are hindu literatures that has references of Buddha's existence.



In case of Jesus, there is no single reference so far found about him in other literatures of similar time period until Constantine made it big. The lone reference that was earlier thought to be the proof turned out to be a forgery. The extra-ordinary claims of miracles and the number of disciples Jesus supposedly had should not have been gone unnoticed by writers of that time period. So existence of Jesus is still a mystery and unproven.
BriaR
2015-01-08 01:21:53 UTC
I am an atheist and I don't doubt that Jesus (or someone like him) existed. Ditto Buddha and Mohammed.



Difference is I just believe they were men with some good ideas about how we can best live together. I don't believe the fairy stories, myths and downright lies invented by the great religions of the world to boost the credentials of their chosen icons.
Skeptic
2015-01-07 21:59:04 UTC
Who says we don't? You? When did you become the spokesperson for atheists? I didn't vote for you.



Anyways, I actually don't entirely doubt the existence of any of them, including Jesus. I think each of those people probably did in fact exist but that the stories about them don't have evidence or even could have evidence to the contrary.
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2015-01-07 21:55:27 UTC
A greater number of Christians doubt the literal existence of Jesus than do atheists. Why do you think that is?
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2015-01-07 21:57:44 UTC
Muhammad existed. Jesus existed. Buddha may have existed, but Buddhism wouldn't really suffer if he didn't.
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2015-01-07 23:20:42 UTC
We dont doubt thats for agnostics we reject. All claims of theism. The fight against christianity is more privilent becuase the western world has always been more scientific, progresive and secular so here is where atheism will arrise, so their battle is more again Christianity because thats their neighbour.
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2015-01-07 21:56:32 UTC
"Just a metaphor for the Buddha but not actually literally the first Buddha."



What?
2015-01-07 22:04:14 UTC
There were some places in Saudi Arabia that Muhammad built them and still are. and his grave,his shrine,his Quran,his religion,

MORE than anything His Daughters.
Reileah
2015-01-07 22:06:16 UTC
I agree with Sly Phy.
Sly Phi AM
2015-01-07 22:01:46 UTC
Evidence is paramount. Why believe anything that has no evidence to support it?
True
2015-01-07 21:56:26 UTC
They hate what is the truth
nikki1234
2015-01-16 13:38:12 UTC
according to "the threefold lotus sutra", one definition of shakyamuni has his life as 565-486 BC,; so, shakyamuni (gautama) lived 80-years.

while the 'major writings of nichiren daishonin'; vol. 3, listed his lifetime as::born: april 08, 1028 B.C.---died: feb. 15, 949 BC.

Archaeological Discoveries Confirm Early Date of Buddha's Life



Nov. 25, 2013 — Archaeologists working in Nepal have uncovered evidence of a structure at the birthplace of the Buddha dating to the sixth century B.C. This is the first archaeological material linking the life of the Buddha -- and thus the first flowering of Buddhism -- to a specific century.

Pioneering excavations within the sacred Maya Devi Temple at Lumbini, Nepal, a UNESCO World Heritage site long identified as the birthplace of the Buddha, uncovered the remains of a previously unknown sixth-century B.C. timber structure under a series of brick temples. Laid out on the same design as those above it, the timber structure contains an open space in the center that links to the nativity story of the Buddha himself.

Until now, the earliest archaeological evidence of Buddhist structures at Lumbini dated no earlier than the third century B.C., the time of the patronage of the Emperor Asoka, who promoted the spread of Buddhism from present-day Afghanistan to Bangladesh.

"Very little is known about the life of the Buddha, except through textual sources and oral tradition," said archaeologist Professor Robin Coningham of Durham University, U.K., who co-led the investigation. Some scholars, he said, have maintained that the Buddha was born in the third century B.C. "We thought 'why not go back to archaeology to try to answer some of the questions about his birth?' Now, for the first time, we have an archaeological sequence at Lumbini that shows a building there as early as the sixth century B.C."

Early Buddhism revealed

The international team of archaeologists, led by Coningham and Kosh Prasad Acharya of the Pashupati Area Development Trust in Nepal, say the discovery contributes to a greater understanding of the early development of Buddhism as well as the spiritual importance of Lumbini. Their peer-reviewed findings are reported in the December 2013 issue of the international journal Antiquity. The research is partly supported by the National Geographic Society.



To determine the dates of the timber shrine and a previously unknown early brick structure above it, fragments of charcoal and grains of sand were tested using a combination of radiocarbon and optically stimulated luminescence techniques. Geoarchaeological research also confirmed the presence of ancient tree roots within the temple's central void.



"UNESCO is very proud to be associated with this important discovery at one of the most holy places for one of the world's oldest religions," said UNESCO Director-General Irina Bokova, who urged "more archaeological research, intensified conservation work and strengthened site management" to ensure Lumbini's protection.



"These discoveries are very important to better understand the birthplace of the Buddha," said Ram Kumar Shrestha, Nepal's minister of culture, tourism and civil aviation. "The government of Nepal will spare no effort to preserve this significant site."



Buddhist tradition records that Queen Maya Devi, the mother of the Buddha, gave birth to him while holding on to the branch of a tree within the Lumbini Garden, midway between the kingdoms of her husband and parents. Coningham and his colleagues postulate that the open space in the center of the most ancient, timber shrine may have accommodated a tree. Brick temples built later above the timber shrine also were arranged around the central space, which was unroofed.



Four main Buddhist sites

Lumbini is one of the key sites associated with the life of the Buddha; others are Bodh Gaya, where he became a Buddha or enlightened one; Sarnath, where he first preached; and Kusinagara, where he passed away. At his passing at the age of 80, the Buddha is recorded as having recommended that all Buddhists visit "Lumbini." The shrine was still popular in the middle of the first millennium A.D. and was recorded by Chinese pilgrims as having a shrine beside a tree.



The Maya Devi Temple at Lumbini remains a living shrine; the archaeologists worked alongside meditating monks, nuns and pilgrims.



In the scientific paper in Antiquity, the authors write: "The sequence (of archaeological remains) at Lumbini is a microcosm for the development of Buddhism from a localized cult to a global religion."



Lost and overgrown in the jungles of Nepal in the medieval period, ancient Lumbini was rediscovered in 1896 and identified as the birthplace of the Buddha on account of the presence of a third-century B.C. sandstone pillar. The pillar, which still stands, bears an inscription documenting a visit by Emperor Asoka to the site of the Buddha's birth as well as the site's name -- Lumbini.



Despite the rediscovery of the key Buddhist sites, their earliest levels were buried deep or destroyed by later construction, leaving evidence of the very earliest stages of Buddhism inaccessible to archaeological investigation, until now.



Half a billion people around the world are Buddhists, and many hundreds of thousands make a pilgrimage to Lumbini each year. The archaeological investigation there was funded by the government of Japan in partnership with the government of Nepal, under a UNESCO project aimed at strengthening the conservation and management of Lumbini. Along with the National Geographic Society, the research also was supported by Durham University and Stirling University.



Coningham and Acharya were joined on the Antiquity paper by coauthors K.M. Strickland, C.E. Davis, M.J. Manuel, I. A. Simpson, K. Gilliland, J. Tremblay, T.C. Kinnaird and D.C.W. Sanderson.



A documentary on Coningham's exploration of the Buddha's life, "Buried Secrets of the Buddha," will premiere in February internationally on National Geographic Channel.



For a National Geographic news video about the findings, see: http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/news/history-archaeology-news/b



sorry, the article is a little bit long, but i do not have the link to the original page available. but i will include a link to the LOTUS SSUTRA, which is considered to be the highest work of shakyamuni. after, preaching for 40-years the teachings of means, he reveals the truth of enlightenment in his "lotus sutra".

the 'muryogi sutra', [sutra of innumerable meanings]is the prelude, while the nirvana sutra [sutra of meditation on the bodhisattva universal virtue] are the prologue, to the lotus sutra.


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