Do I understand Genesis correctly?

Question

1) God creates stars. Apparently, the stars give out no light.

2) Then, God creates light.

3) Then, God creates the Sun, which is a star, which..... he created earlier?

Is anyone else getting the feeling this narrative was written by an ignorant goat herder, and not an omniscient deity?

Answer 1

1) Have you ever been out at night on a new moon? Even with all the light from the stars, it's still pretty much black out there. When you're talking about day and night, it's still night even though there are stars out.



2) We're talking about the creation of the earth here, so the light in this case is very likely to be our sun.



3) Where does it say that he created the Sun separately? I thought that was part of the creating light thing from number 2?



As far as your conclusion, no, I never got that sense. Though, it helps when you have already come to that conclusion, and then read these verses looking for evidence that you can use to prove that fact to yourself and to others. If it helps, you can remember that this account was told to someone several thousand years ago. The people of that time period would have understood nothing of the science that you and I know today.



Let's say that God actually had told them exactly how the process worked, scientifically speaking. For one thing, we still would not have understood it (ask any scientist how they would create a planet from scratch and I think they could all admit that that's well beyond our current understanding). For another, even if we could begin to grasp it now, it would have done nothing to help the people who lived in the last several thousand years. The bible, used properly, is meant to be a guiding light to all peoples, not just the scientists at the height of human knowledge. Three, you probably would STILL think it was wrong, even if He did. Chances are, He (assuming for the sake of argument that God was behind the creation account) has a better understanding of science than we do. Since we are currently incapable of making our own planets, there is a chance that the methods He used would be unknown to our science. Thus, you would see the description (even if it was sufficiently detailed) and simply conclude that it was written by "an ignorant goat herder" who was apparently trying to sound smart and failing badly. Because that is the only possible explanation when you don't understand the description, right?

Answer 2

You probably do not understand Genesis correctly. In my study of the subject I would readily concede that it is impossible to understand it correctly by reading only Genesis.



It was not written by a goat herder. If it was it would probably make a lot more sense.



It wasn't written by Moses either as some still contend. You will have a hard time finding a Bible scholar today that concedes the so called Mosaic books were written by Moses. It is commonly conceded that the final edition of Genesis was written after the Babylonian period by the racist Ezra.



One of the main reasons for this contention is that the Mosaic books condemn Moses' own descendants to the class of Gentiles, dogs. Moses would never write a book condemning his own protégé in this way, as a matter of fact there is little record that shows Moses was even racist as the writers of Genesis most certainly were.



Moses married a Midianite woman, the daughter of a Midianite priest that worshipped the Creator God and none of his children were Israelite by the code outlined in Genesis. This means that a great deal of the priests and scribes that did write Genesis were not Israelites as so many were descendants of Moses so I don't see how anyone can claim with any degree of confidence to understand the book. Its a confusing book whos focus is incest and racism.



The Bible must be read critically or not understood at all. The portion you are having challenges with is an interesting history of a very racist society creating its own very racist God. These are some of the errors Jesus came to correct and the Old Testament will never be fully understood except in the light of the prophets and the teachings of the New Testament. We need to read the whole book for a complete understanding including the parts that warn us about the inaccuracies contained there.

Answer 3

And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. (Genesis 1:3-4)

We can see here that God is making a statement, followed by that statement being executed: "Let there be light" is directly followed by and there was light. God is not making a big speech to anyone here.

Rather, God is speaking through His activities. He is speaking His intent via His design of the physical universe. Remember that we are talking about the Supreme Being, Who originates from the spiritual dimension - a dimension where time does not exist - creating the physical universe, and setting in motion what we see around us. Notice that God simply had to command light. This indicates that light - which is energy - originates from God. Light emanates from God. This is confirmed by numerous scriptural passages. Therefore, when God was creating the physical universe, He simply endowed it with His light.

'God saw that the light was good' indicates His approval. He is commanding the creation of the physical universe, and then He is approving it.



The source of the light was NOT the sun - God hadn't created the sun or the moon or stars at that point.



Methinks you have no intention of understanding Genesis or any other part of the Bible correctly; you have the sole intention of attempting to ridicule the Bible and those who believe it, who KNOW it to be the 100% inerrant, infallible Word of God.

However, there are many others who have attempted to do the same, who when reading it with an open mind, have been miraculously transformed and discovered for themselves that the Book which they had attempted to ridicule is indeed the Word of God.

That may happen to you too. Even if you are an ignorant goat herder.

Answer 4

As a non-christian who believes that some parts of the bible are correct while others are false, let me try to analyse it in a way that can make these statements correct.

So the first step was 'let there be light as evident by " And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. "-Genesis 1:3

So I don't know where you got the stars coming into existence first (note,i am a non-christian, i am just being objective here).

As for whether the sun came first or the stars, it is not clear in the bible (at first glance). Moreover, when you study a text you should not be giving your own definitions of words. Back then stars meant those shiny things in the sky that were far away. Today stars are defined as planets that emit light (including our sun... not sure if they call them planets but u get the idea).

Every context has it's own definitions, so u have to take those definitions, not our own cultures ones.

Answer 5

Without a biblical scholar for a teacher to help you know what language you would have been reading, you need faith and special gifts of the spirit to comprehend. Literally translating, using old ideas about it, and not consulting scholars or the available concordance, or the manuscript info is futile.

It has not been fully and correctly brought to you because you must start with "milk", and later find the "solid food".

Since it takes the spiritual awakening within you, you must give it time and seek learned people.

If they had the right info but not faith? they would make it an abomination. Who's they ? They change what it says to change God's meaning. This can make it lose its power to help you, who do you think they are ? false teachers and Kenites. They want you to misunderstand and give up.

You can get a Companion Bible and a Strong's Concordance These are the first 2 things to answer the many questions you would have but real teachers are difficult to find. Keep looking.



Watch, they(their believers) give a thumbs down when they rear their ugly heads.

Without study or teaching, they have concluded and begun to attack something. Transliteration, copyist error or changes made by kings and principalities to cloud your vision are the obvious evidence.

Your attacks are the second unfortunate example.

Ask for grace, wisdom, healing. Let go of worldly cares.

Seek his face, gain freedom from the pain the evil one can lead you into. Accept the forgiveness. It is not your fault unless you knowingly choose it. The deceived might not be able to stand against the false christ.

Answer 6

IF the scripture was dictated by anyone, that would have had to occur several thousand years before anything was put in writing. The Old Testament writings occurred beginning 800 BCE and the events of Moses took place around the fourth year of Solomon's reign or around 1444 BCE. King James authorized a translation that is suspected of inaccuracies. The work was actually a revision of The Bishop's Bible of 1568 AD, which was a revision of The Great Bible of 1539 AD, which was itself based on three previous English translations from the early 1500s. So, the men who produced the King James Bible not only inherited some of the errors made by previous English translators, but invented some of their own. So the word commonly used today is not at all viable, whether it was divinely dictated or not.

Answer 7

Dear Friend,



Let me see if I can help clarify this for you.



Genesis 1:3-5, On the first day God commanded the light to shine out of darkness and established the Day and the Night cycle. This act is not to be confused with the establishment of the sun, moon and stars on the fourth day. 2 Corinthians 4:6 the Apostle Paul draws a parallel between the original separation of light from darkness and the conversion of a sinner.



Now, let's jump down to Genesis 1:14-19. It was not until the fourth day did the Lord set the sun, moon, and stars in the heavens as lightbearers and as means for establishing a calendar.



Hope that helps.



Tender blessings,

Answer 8

No, you do NOT understand Genesis correctly. Chapter 1:1 of Genesis says God created THE HEAVEN and the EARTH. Next, verse 2 says the earth was without FORM, and DARKNESS was upon the face of the DEEP. In verse 3, God created LIGHT. Stars and the sun aren't created until verse 14. So you're understanding is based upon your FAILURE to actually READ the text of Genesis. However, that's not surprising when attempting to discredit and mock the Bible. It's also typical of people assuming things not in evidence and being ignorant of the facts.

Answer 9

I get the feeling that I'm dealing with an ignorant blowhard every time I read one of your questions.



The key to understanding the Creation account in Genesis is found in the second verse "... And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters."



Everything that takes place is from the perspective of being on the earth's surface. As any astrophysicist and cosmologist knows, that when a planet is newly formed there is so much planetary debris that it blocks out the sun. There is no light. As this planetary debris clears. Light becomes visible. Day and night become detectable. As the atmosphere clears even more, the stars become visible in the night sky.

Answer 10

The book of Genesis is a basic template for how life began. It is not hard, if you approach it humbly and willingly and ready to understand. If you approach it combatively looking for flaws and ready to tear it down, you will get what you are looking for.



This is a principle of life that transcends any religious ideal. If you wanted to learn how to cook, you would practice the principles of open mindedness, willingness and the desire to understand how to cook. You would never learn how to cook by throwing your pans and pots around the room and ordering fast food.



So, when you read the Bible, read it with a humble and open mind. Ask God to show you. Even as a person who was born again over 12 years ago, I still have to do this on occasion when reading the Bible. The answers are there if you ask and seek and are willing. Without those things, you're just kicking against the pricks. Do you not love yourself more than this?

Answer 11

Let's see if you understand it when i translate it to you. "In the beginning, the Elokim created heaven and earth." Translate, in the cleansing fire, male and female together created a head and a body, thus a child.

"They saw the the earth was a void and desolation". They saw that this body was empty, no knowledge except eat, drink, pee and sh.t., And now we see the path of creation, all the steps you read now is what the parents teach there child, and you will see that the human is created at the very end, since you teach anatomy and sexuality to your child in age it is able to understand it. See the path and you will remember that your parents used the same path of knowledge to teach you all they knew. They created him to their image, we all create all around us to our image.



The Genesis is the third step, Exodus is the way of, or path to, creation, upper Egypt, female or desert, has to unite with lower Egypt, male fertile land to create anew dynasty. Moses is the male, and his penis the Pharaoh, he fights against sexuality, he fights this pharaoh who keeps his people, his sperm flow prisoner. This people is released when he goes to the desert, and after pass over, when children turn from children state to adult state, or sexually fertile, the son of the Pharaoh dies, the child become adult and then the people will be released and enter the holy land, the uterus of the woman. This story is a bout the human body, his life, his sexuality, his metaphysical and physical way of acting and living. Pharaoh means light carrier, and the male penis is the candle that will bring the light into the lighthouse, the light of life, and this light, the kingdom of god, our baby will see it 9 month after Easter. The New Testament is the second step, the realization of this creation. The books are written in triangular order, so the first book is not the first, and so on, it is permanent jumping back and forth, it are 22 trinities, positive, neutral , negative, thus the 22 letters of the Hebrew Alphabet treated at all 3 levels. The whole work is 22 x 3 is 66 books and there are 6 hidden books, the Goetias, or books of magick, together 6 and 66 books or 72 . You walk the zodiac and its 12 x 3 houses in positive and negative, the 36 lesser and 36 higher keys of Solomon, or the states of behavior and mind for the good and the bad, of the human being. Bible is Astrology, Astronomy, and Anatomy of the human body.



The Bible is a baby, cabbage and stork story, it is pure science and human morphology written is a stupid fairy tale way. It needs some enlightenment from a kabbalist Rabbi to be able to read the kabbalist slang with it's rhetoric, allegory, symbolic metaphors, mirrored words, interlaced writing system, inverted and numeral letter symbolic, where names are path, and so on. You can not read it as such literally, since it is nonsense. But remember, you can live with ease without it.

Answer 12

Your post is so tired (we've heard it about 40-million times here by as many people), and so badly written, and that "ignorant goat herder" comment is the most ignorant comment on the 'Net overall. The scriptures you were referring to are rough summaries and at the same time symbolic. See if you can get yourself past that stupidly-written "ignorant goat herder" idiocy and try to come up with something intelligent in your next comment. No, you do NOT understand Genesis AT ALL. I'm not even a Christian, but i can see that you've never studied into scripture. I'm not an atheist, however. I'm just one of those people who investigates and studies into things. You ought to do the same, because your post (troll?) indicates otherwise ...

Answer 13

The biblical writers didn't of course have the knowledge we have today, and wouldn't have known that the sun is a star, or that moonlight is reflected light from the sun. They would also have thought that daylight was something spiritual that banished evil, not physical as we now know it is nor that it travels, and would not have thought of the sun as being its source (the moon is referred to as a "light" in verse 16). The functions of the sun and moon may have been considered as being to separate the light from the darkness - day and night - and darkness would not have been thought of as merely the absence of light but the presence of evil.



Genesis 1:14 says “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years". That passage implies that the author believed in Astrology.



Now we understand so many more concepts of how nature works, such as space-time, expanding finite but unbounded universe, Big Bang, evolution, quantum mechanics, and so much more. But the Genesis attempt at explaining how the world came into being, and why people have to work to survive and suffer illness and death, was a step on the road to reaching today's knowledge. And today's knowledge will be a step on the way to future understanding for which we may not have concepts today.

Answer 14

Moses married a Midianite woman, the daughter of a Midianite priest that worshipped the Creator God and none of his children were Israelite by the code outlined in Genesis. This means that a great deal of the priests and scribes that did write Genesis were not Israelites as so many were descendants of Moses so I don't see how anyone can claim with any degree of confidence to understand the book. Its a confusing book whos focus is incest and racism.

Answer 15

No, evidently you don't understand Genesis correctly, because the Genesis 1-2 stories speak poetically of the mystery, beauty and abundance of God's creation. But you're all hung up on poking holes in a trivia-minded literalist reading.



Literalist analysis of Genesis is about as productive as literalist analysis of Langston Hughes's poem "Vari-colored Song". To wit, if the narrator had a heart of gold? He'd be dead, because a gold heart would not be able to pump blood. He wouldn't be able to sell his heart of gold and head north with the dough. And obviously his heart is not Georgia clay either, because clay is no more suitable than gold as a biopump.

Answer 16

Moses married a Midianite woman, the daughter of a Midianite priest that worshipped the Creator God and none of his children were Israelite by the code outlined in Genesis. This means that a great deal of the priests and scribes that did write Genesis were not Israelites as so many were descendants of Moses so I don't see how anyone can claim with any degree of confidence to understand the book. Its a confusing book whos focus is incest and racism.

Answer 17

It's not entirely your fault that you think this way because you have been trained to think this way. Most people have been trained to think this way that have been born in the past 50 years and born on the Western 1/2 of the planet. Modern Western physicists look at what they can see and with a certain amount of arrogance believe that what they see is all that there is. Then they again look at the Universe without a thought about God and see a certain order and regularity in what they see and assume that this regularity is a system of "laws" about how things must work.



In Reality God created all that there is and is in complete charge of everything. He does this so that us humans who He created will be able to predict things and order our lives and predict things.



We look at the stars and see that in the process of converting hydrogen to helium that they give off something that we call light and our nearest star (our sun) gives off light so that we can see. We assume that that is the only way light can be created. God is in complete control of everything. He can create light in any way He choses; whether from the process within a star or just by using His Will.



Geneses in the English translation also says that,

in the beginning the world was without form and void." The word "without" is a translation of the Hebrew word, "Tohuvebuho". This word can also be translated as "became" rather than "was". This is especially the case since there was a "War in Heaven" before humans were created; when Lucifer rebelled against God and convinced 1/3 of the angels to follow him instead of God. The Bible calls Lucifer, Satan after that. This had already happened when Satan tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden or Satan wouldn't have tempted her.



The Bible is not easily understood. In fact it takes the Holy Spirit to help a person understand it as well as much study. Unfortunately no Bible Authority on Earth has all of the answers and some of the so called Bible authorities and preachers are not only in error but at times out right lie to either hide their ignorance or to try and get people to believe what they want them to believe. A good start in understanding the Bible is to ask God to help give you the understanding of what the Bible means every time you read it. The website "www.blueletterbible.com> is a good source "and easy" to find out the meaning of the original Hebrew and Greek words that the Bible is written in because often the translators of the original texts of the Bible make mistakes or consciously change the meaning.



I hope this is a start for you in coming to understand the most important and the most interesting book that was ever written. God bless you.

Answer 18

Not that I think you deserve an answer: your question shall be viewed by others!:



Although the Sun was Created long before the Genesis Period mentioned after Gen Ch1 V1. it was in darkness because darkness was upon the Earth both the darkness of wickedness and the physical darkness because life upon Earth had been destroyed previously, thus the Craters upon the moon and mars etc there had been a great war in the Heavens and upon Earth wiping out everything, this is why there are lakes of radioactive glass in several places in the world like india and America.

Answer 19

No.



Belief in God will ultimately be a matter of faith because absolute proof (or disproof) of the supernatural will never be found. However modern Astrophysics has proven the existence of God beyond a reasonable doubt.



Newton's Third Law of Motion states "For every action there is equal and opposite reaction." Every action in the universe was caused by a prior equal and opposite reaction.



If we logically follow each and every action and reaction back to the beginning then logically there has to be a first action without a prior equal and opposite reaction. Modern astrophysicists call this event the Big Bang.



This first action was completely independent of outside forces. This action was God, the un-caused cause, creating the universe. This proof also fulfills the principle of Occam's Razor.



By the way, it was Georges Lemaître (1894–1966), a Belgian Catholic priest and professor of physics and astronomy, who proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lem...



Another beyond a reasonable doubt:



A universe in which life has a chance to exist can only happen in where a couple of dozen universal constants coincide, including:

+ Minimum interval of space

+ Minimum unit of time

+ Planck's Constant

+ Maximum velocity

+ Gravitational Attraction Constant

+ Weak Force Coupling Constant

+ Strong Nuclear Force Coupling Constant

+ Rest Mass of a Proton

+ Rest Mass of an Electron

+ Electron or Proton Unit Charge

+ Minimum Mass of the Universe

+ Total Visible Rest Mass

+ Boltzmann's Constant

+ Hubble Constant

+ Cosmological Constant

+ Cosmic Proton/Photon Ratio

+ Permittivity of Free Space

+ Electromagnetic Fine-Structure Constant

+ Weak Fine-Structure Constant

+ Gravitational Fine-Structure Constant



A couple of percent difference in any one of these constants would make the universe completely uninhabitable. Roger Penrose, a peer of Hawking, calculated that the chance of a universe capable of supporting life as we know it as one part in 10 raised to the power of 10 raised to the power of 123.



This fine tuning of the universe, while not an absolute proof of God, can be used to help prove the existence of God beyond a reasonable doubt.



What worried me more right here though is what kind of person goes to a forum of a subject matter about which the people who are interested therein he has little but disdain? What pleasure gets you off, poking religious people with a virtual pointy stick? Please don't.



Don't like dinosaurs? Then stop hanging around in a dinosaur related forum!



If God does not exist, your question is irrelevant.

If God exists, your question is redundant.

Answer 20

Your question shows that you are reading the book of Genesis literally, but this is a common error.

It is the first of five books of the Old Testament which are called the Pentateuch by the followers of Jesus and the Torah by Jews, and there is a history to it.

In 593 BC the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar I invaded Judea and carried away 2500 captives to Bablylon. He returned in 583 BC and burned down the Temple in Jerusalem and the original Pentateuch was destroyed in the fire. Again he took captives back to Babylonia.

In 539 BC, Cyrus the Great, the Persian King, conquered Babylon and Belshazzar (of writing on the wall fame) was killed. The Persian throne was usurped by Darius I, who released all the captives from Babylon. He appointed the Jewish scribe, Ezra, as Governor of Jerusalem, and sent him back to rebuild the Temple, which he did. As all the exiles had returned from Babylon he had no Pentateuch to teach them, so he gathered all the scribes together to rewrite it under his editorship, and it is believed that he wrote Leviticus himself, which is why it is full of rules and regulations.

The people of the Old World were not scientific and thought the earth was a flat disc around which the universe revolved. This can be seen in the texts. They did not understand how the earth worked, so natural disasters were “Acts of God.” When it came to the start of the world, the scribes were stumped, so they had to use allegory to show that almighty God created all things. The scientific age started with Copernicus in 1530 AD and now people tend to use hindsight when they read the Bible, whereas they need the ancient mindset to understand what was actually being said.

History from elsewhere in the Middle East shows that Adam actually came from the Indus valley, north of Karachi on West Pakistan, which was then known as the Garden of Eden’ in 3065 BC. He was an adult when he met Eve in Sri Lanka and they both moved to the Holy Land. The disjointed story of Cain shows that other people were already on the earth so Adam could not have been ‘the first man on earth’. The divine birth of Adam was symbolic, as it was intended to show he was the First Hebrew.

The Pentateuch was written to teach faith, not scientific fact. Despite the allegory and symbolism used it pointed the same way as the other books of the Old Testament – towards the coming of Christ, whose divine birth was prophesied by Adam’s divine creation, and that is why Jesus is called the ‘Second Adam’.

Answer 21

If this question is open later, I may return to edit this and explain why that appears to contradict but doesn't. I have heard the explanations in the past. Something like it was created on one day but light became visible to the earth on another.



And no. You don't understand Genesis correctly, in answer to your question.

Answer 22

Try this:

:1 God creates the 'heavens and earth"; 'heavens and earth' being a compound word for "everything" (aka the universe)



:2 POV shifts to the surface of the earth



:3 "Let there be light" is at the surface of the earth (read the whole verse for context). The light is not created, just visible (the Hebrew for "create" is not present here.)



:14 “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night"; Again, the POV is still the earth's surface and "Let there be" is not creation language. The atmosphere clears to be transparent enough to view the sun and the moon as required by the more complex life of the time.



Now what we have is a list of 11 creation events that are in order and what is observed in the record of nature.



Goat herder, huh? (o more directly .. no, you do not understand Genesis 1 correctly.)

Answer 23

No. When Jehovah created light, it only shone so far upon the Earth, since in the beginning it was covered by many layers in the atmosphere, mostly of minerals and water. (Which is why there was a separation of the waters above from the ones below in Gen.1:6 & 7...) This light was unable to touch the actual ground as of yet, for the sun had already been out in space and shining, just not upon the Earth yet due to its outer layer of firmament. When light was finally able to shine upon the firmament, this is when the sun, moon, and stars took their respective places in regards to how they would affect Earth, and how one would give brighter light for a period(that being called 'Day'), while the second period would have lesser light from the moon and stars. (That period being called 'Night'.)



The Earth didn't have any DIRECT light upon it until after the waters circling in the atmosphere fell upon it, which was how the Flood was made. This is the case due to the 1st rainbow recorded being shown AFTER the Flood was over, which is always after a rainfall, something that hadn't happened prior to the Flood.

Answer 24

You folks do not understand the creation story.

1) The story is about the transformation of Earth into a livable planet as would be seen from a position on Earth's surface.

2) The obstruction that limited visibility of stars was the upper level cloud cover. Earth was overcast because of mantle heat. There are two references to atmospheric changes in the story.

3)It lists the after extinction of seed bearing life, birds and fish, and mammals. It says that birds originated in the sea. Compare this order to the end of the Paleozoic, the end of the Mesozoic, and the current end of the Cenozoic.



There are twenty three items in the correct order in creation- 1 in 23! odds of that.



If you dislike religion, I understand. If you think the creation story is bogus, You are dead wrong.

Answer 25

Genesis was written by Moses, the information was given to him by God.

However it was men who translated the original scripts and decided what to put in and what to leave out.

So we can debate as much as we like, we don't know the answers because like everything else in this world another authority took over and decided what we should know. More control methods.

Interesting fact is that Thomas the Apostle was left out of the Bible, and he tells us that Jesus actually said "The Kingdom of God lies within". Now that is very interesting because we are now talking spiritual, and no wonder they left that out of the Bible. If you look at the history of the Bible you will understand how it can contradict itself, because simply this is powerful men at work behind the scenes deciding what information to give us the sheep to keep us from finding the real truth about God and the Universe.

Answer 26

No, you didn't understand it correctly because you have dissected it wrongly without asking God to guide you in understanding His Word through His Holy Spirit! (II Timothy 2:15)

The Bible is an Instruction Book for life and death and after life (eternal life or eternal separation with, or from God/Jesus/His Holy Spirit; on how to live a godly life! It tells us where we came from, how we got started and who God and His Son Jesus is in relationship to us. What they have to do with us?, is we live on their green earth, that They produced/provided (Geneses 1:26-28) for us to maintain and live a blessed life. So far we have done a lousy job because of all the chaos, mayhem, rebellion and division.

We are not all scientist to figure out the stars, planets and Big lights that God give, but we know they are there because scientist have searched and investigated to see that it's true what God said He did to create earth.

Answer 27

Moses wrote his account in Hebrew, and he wrote it from the perspective of a person standing on the surface of the earth. These two facts combined with the knowledge that the universe existed before the beginning of the creative periods, or days, help to defuse much of the controversy surrounding the creation account. How so?



A careful consideration of the Genesis account reveals that events starting during one “day” continued into one or more of the following “days.” For example, before the first creative “day” started, light from the already existing sun was somehow prevented from reaching the earth’s surface, possibly by thick clouds. (Job 38:9) During the first “day,” this barrier began to clear, allowing diffused light to penetrate the atmosphere.*



On the second “day,” the atmosphere evidently continued to clear, creating a space between the thick clouds above and the ocean below. On the fourth “day,” the atmosphere gradually cleared to such an extent that the sun and the moon were made to appear “in the expanse of the heavens.” (Genesis 1:14-16) In other words, from the perspective of a person on earth, the sun and moon began to be discernible. These events happened gradually.



The Genesis account also relates that as the atmosphere continued to clear, flying creatures—including insects and membrane-winged creatures—started to appear on the fifth “day.”



The Bible’s narrative allows for the possibility that some major events during each day, or creative period, occurred gradually rather than instantly, perhaps some of them even lasting into the following creative days.*



[Footnotes]



* In the description of what happened on the first “day,” the Hebrew word used for light is ’ohr, light in a general sense, but concerning the fourth “day,” the word used is ma·’ohr′, which refers to the source of light.

Answer 28

All of this is fully accounted for by the revolutionary evolutionary theological theory of Pandeism -- Christianity/Islam have no answer for Pandeism -- for all man-made 'scripture' and 'revelation' based religions are fully accounted for and superseded by Pandeism, which accounts for all of the actions imagined by vain men to be communications from their deities as simply miscomprehended manifestations of an underlying unconscious mind -- a Creator which has in fact fully become our Universe (Quantum Mechanics supports this proposition). Every line in not only the Bible/Quran but every scripture ever written and every revelation or prophecy or miracle ever experienced, and for ALL religions, is explicable as a product of a pandeistic Universe -- and amazingly without contradicting anything known to science!!

Answer 29

For proof of creation, but not in six twenty four hour days 6000 years ago read Biblical Antiuquities Book I by archaeologist and Bible scholar E. Raymond Capt. This book explains the creation story as originally written in ancient cuneiform, the first non-pictograph form of writing. If you have not read this book you have not been exposed to the other side of the story. Yes, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1), but this beginning was millions of years before Adam and Eve.



Source: Biblical Antiquities, Book I by E. Raymond Capt

Please, do a Yahoo search for this book.

Answer 30

God is almighty. He created light first and saw that it was good so he made it into a ball a giant life giving ball, the sun, after he saw that it was good. And Moses was the one who wrote Genesis. By definition an almighty God can communicate to his people so he came to Moses in a dream and showed him how everything was created. So Moses wrote it down into the book of Genesis.

Answer 31

I think you should think about the distant of the stars and the sun. The stars lights up it in the sky at night depending on where you live and less pollution. They are not as close to the earth as the sun.The sun is a star but it is much closer to earth. We can see the effect of the it closest to the earth. We can observe the intelligence of the designer by means of distant that is between our sun and the earth. If the sun was too close we will burn up. If it was too far we will freeze to death. It seems to me you don't have all your facts. You just prove what the Bible states: When anyone is replying to a matter before he hears it, that is foolishness on his part and a humiliation.—Prov. 18:13.

For more information go www.JW.Org.

Answer 32

The scriptures were written, not by men of science, but by men led along by holy spirit...they simply wrote down what God made them know...but it may not have been in chronological order...

Moses wrote Genesis to Numbers...How could a man remember all that unless he was helped? By Jehovah...



(2 Peter 1:21) For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit.

Answer 33

Though Atheist, I'll try to come up with a hypothetical explanation to explain this the best I can. The stars without light could of been referred to as the raw star dust that eventually accrues to become a star. After a while, God could have allowed the actual stars to form via gravity, thus creating light. Then, God could have just created another star that he dubbed, the sun that was tempered for life. Still, I completely agree that this is a bunch of bs.

Answer 34

To answer the question, in my opinion, the answer would be "No, you do not".

This is not a bad thing, and that answer is not meant as a negative. The Septuagint translated the scriptures into as many languages as they could at that time, and newer languages may not have words to equal the meanings of the old words. It's like Native American, the word for enemy and friend is the same word, it's simply a form of stress and inflection, so "stars" and "galaxies" may have been the same word back then.

Answer 35

Here is an okay explanation of genesis, it is a match, it was right on until they changed it.



Here you go: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=12719.0



I go with the other party though. There are theists, atheists, and agnostics. But behold there is actually a fourth way! It is the i don't really give a ****-ists. Because even if there is a god it doesn't mean i am not absolutely doomed for now. Is god helping anybody at all? Nope. We're all doomed.



Please. Don't be a theist, or atheist, or agnostic, be an i don't give a ****-ist because this sucks and we're all dead anyway and if there is a god he isn't exactly helping is he.

Answer 36

In the beginning there was only God and he is made of magnificent energy more glorious than anyone can imagine. Everyone thinks he is an a form similar to man but he is not. And us as part of the divine are living this life in human form to learn and grow spiritually and when we are done we return to the divine source and we do maintain our individuality. I saw this in a vision and felt the presence of other souls and felt a love more wonderful than can be described in human terms. If only this could be conveyed to those who do not believe. A wonderful future awaits all who desire to return to our source of life and energy and from which all things were made. All souls are a part of him yet with a separate consciousness. All of us are a part of God and it is glorious and wonderful.

Answer 37

As someone who actually reads Hebrew, I can tell you that is not correct.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" - This is when He created the sun, the "heavens" include the sun.



It might be a bit trickier in the English translation, however you can still see it - there is a difference between "God creating" and a statement of God "letting" something be.



The word used in the first verse is "bara" - which means creating from nothing. God letting something be is "yehi", which is not an action of creating but an action of existence.



To understand this more completely, in Job God talks about the earth being covered in thick clouds as He created it. In context, we can put two together and understand that God merely let the light pass on through to the earth.

Answer 38

Here is a brief recap of all the religious answers above:



1. The Bible doesn't actually say what it says.

2. You are too dumb to understand it.

3. You have to have magical faith filters to "translate" it.

4. The Bible wasnt meant to be a science book, except when we say so.

5. God didn't write this part of the Bible, this part was by goat herders.

6. Extra-biblical claims or opinions inserted to "explain" what it says.



So, yeah, basically it comes down to denying the ACTUAL WORDS in the Bible / denying their OWN BELIEFS (God is omniscient, BUT he doesn't know how the universe works)



IN short: Believers themselves are saying just reading the actual words without any outside influence telling you what to think doesn't work. You have to massage the words and filter them through extra-biblical beliefs to force it to make sense.

Answer 39

Yep.

And God said, "let there be light," and there was light.

Sounds like this version of god was a bit in the dark.

To separate light from darkness requires space.

Where does time not exist? The only place where time doesn't exist is where there's no space.

Where is there no space? In a time that doesn't actually exist.



God doesn't originate from anything. Everything originates from God.

Answer 40

The Bible simply is trying to tell you of the human past and because of the knowledge gained .. you can surmise the future if the past is continued unchecked . As with any story ,, they had to start some where .. and they started with nothing .. and explained the order in which it is believed things came to be ... in non scientific ways .

Use the Bible as a human history book and you wont error like so many are .

Answer 41

No.



You and a few Creationist Christians wrongly assume the Bible is a Science textbook. It is not. The Bible is a Theology textbook.



The Bible's primary purpose is to teach us the truth about God and His (or Her) love for us, not to teach facts about history or science.



All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)



For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 105 and following.



With love in Christ.

Answer 42

The Genesis is a Metaphor. Actually, from GOD came time and space. Space was filled with pure energy. From energy, particles appeared. And the process of formation of the Cosmos started. Without the presence of modern astronomy, it was impossible to make the masses swallow the creation-story. So, the metaphor.

Answer 43

No, you don't.



"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."



It says God created the heavens. It doesn't say God filled them with anything at that point, i.e.: stars.



Perhaps you should take up goat herding since basic reading comprehension is beyond your ability.

Answer 44

You're wasting your time trying to get good answers from those who think they understand the "true" meaning of the holy book.



The answers they tell you will vary because the Bible itself is not very clear in its verses. As some of these people stated, the "Hebrew" word for certain terms are not actually present. That is because the Bible was translated into a multitude of other languages, and English was certainly not the first one. There are many differences in the translations large enough to have people split themselves into millions of churches, and that is an observable fact.



If anything, the Bible differs from person to person, and asking "god" what it really means won't help you much either.

Answer 45

No. Like so many persons you chose to read the Bible without knowledge, understanding or wisdom. You refuse to study and want to comment on topics without studying or giving any thought to what you saying. Even the most ignorant of people are wise enough to refuse to call the Author of the Bible stupid. Besides do you understand the Bibles use of the term stupid - from the Hebrew it means those who are ignorant and refuse to obey the standards and commandments of God.

Answer 46

Speaking as a Christian and with my limited knowledge about what GOD has done,that He has not revealed in His word,I can only apprehend which is based solely on the trust and faith of the truthfulness of GOD's own words. Either you believe it to be the Divine word of GOD or it is not.This Genesis passage falls into the category of "Mystery" and so it will be revealed in GOD'S own timing. 1Co 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time,until the Lord comes,who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts.And then shall each one have praise of God. IN MY OWN OPINION BASED ON MY RESEARCH of this passage. The light of verse 3 is only recorded as it being created. Whatever it was,it was created 2Co 4:6 For it is God who said, "Out of darkness Light shall shine;" who shone in our hearts to give the brightness of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. To give the brightness of the knowledge of the Glory of GOD. That "light" is emanated out of nothing yet is light. This can be understood in the same construct as we understand how Gravity is understood or how energy in the universe exists or whatever "mystery" of GOD is to be understood with the limited mind. Some espouse that GOD had created particles that make up the light that we have no comprehension. Mdybe something to do with the "God particle"? So in essence it was created by an" omniscient Deity?

Answer 47

No, you don't

genesis 1 -3 are sacred cosmological and anthropological allegories (muthoi) and are not meant ( nor were they when composed) to taken in stark literalism

Answer 48

It sounds like you're looking at it as literal. Really The creation story corresponds to phases of our own spiritual growth. Emanuel Swedenborg was shown the inner meaning of the Bible and things in Heaven and Hell in order to enlighten people. This is said to be a key role in the Lord’s 2nd Coming which is a coming within people rather than coming in physical form again. (The literal description of the 2nd Coming is actually symbolic which he explains in Heaven and Hell). I copied this from Secrets of Heaven by Swedenborg. It explains the inner meaning of the first three days of the creation story:



The six days or time periods, meaning so many consecutive stages in a person’s regeneration, are these, in outline:

The first stage is preliminary, extending from infancy to just before regeneration, and is called void, emptiness, and darkness. The first stirring, which is the Lord’s mercy, is the Spirit of God in constant motion on the face of the water.



In the second stage, a distinction is drawn between the things that are the Lord’s and those that are our own. The things that are the Lord’s are called a “remnant” in the Word. In this instance the “Remnant” refers principally to religious knowledge acquired from early childhood on. This remnant is stored away, not to reappear until we arrive at such a stage. At present the second stagerarely comes into play without trouble, misfortune, and grief, which enable bodily and worldly concerns-things that are our own-to fade away and in effect die out. The things that belong to the outer self, then, are separated from hose that belong to the inner self, the inner self containing the remnant that the Lord has put aside to await this time and this purpose.



The third stage is one of repentance. During this time, at the prompting of the inner self, we speak devoutly and reverently and yield a good harvest (acts of neighborly kindness, for instance). These effects are lifeless nonetheless, since we suppose that they come of our own doing. They are called the tender plant, then the seed-bearing plant, and lastly the fruit tree.



There’s always some kind of deeper meaning like this. The Bible isn’t written in clear perfect truths without clothing them, because it would spiritually blind us. The sun corresponds to God. The warmth is His love, and the light is His truth. Looking straight at the sun blinds us. Clouds correspond to the literal meaning of the Bible. It’s written like this to allow imperfect people to have a connection to the perfect God/truth.



These verses have to do with this: "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." Matt 7:6. “And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled out, and the skins will be ruined.” Luke 5:37.



Some of the Bible is literal, like what happened with Jesus in the New Testament, but there's a deeper meaning to that too. Jesus obviously used symbolism in His parables which shows that's God's way, so the rest of the Bible uses it too.



As an example of why symbolism isn’t a lie: "Blessed are you who hunger now" is in Luke. People who don’t understand it’s symbolic would think that means literal feeling hungry for food. I would think it would mean something deeper. "Blessed are you who hunger and thirst for righteousness" is in Matthew. I would interpret Luke as meaning the same thing as what it says in Matthew. That doesn't mean what is says in Luke is false, it means it's true in a deeper meaning. So the Bible obviously uses this symbolic way.

Answer 49

You might be the ignorant one. Why do you insist upon stuffing God into your limited box of concepts? If God is who He says He is, then He is all-knowing(which you are not), He is all powerful(which you are not), and can do anything He chooses to do(which you can't do). Just because you can't imagine something means that it can't possibly be? Now, that is true arrogance, and perhaps borderline ignorance.

Answer 50

God created the Heavens...... didn't say he made the stars on day one.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.





3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Answer 51

Genesis says "In the beginning of the creation...a mighty wind swept over the waters", so there was wind and water before the creation. God created a "vault," a solid dome, and called it heaven. He put stars in the vault to make lights, like light bulbs in a ceiling, according to the Bible. Religious people ignore this or make pitiful excuses to explain it.

Answer 52

The Bible was written by men who were inspired by a belief in God. They did not have degrees in astronomy or astrophysics 2,000 years ago. It is a story of creation, not a scientific treatise, and should not be taken literally as it obviously contains many factual errors.

Answer 53

Genesis was written 3000 years later from a variety of manuscripts. So it jumps back and forth. analysis have said, you can tell the original story is took and retold.

Answer 54

No.



You don't get it.



You are interpreting a cosmological model from a hardline fundamentalist perspective.



That is as idiotic as believing the Earth is 6000 years old and humans lived alongside dinosaurs.



Grow a ******* brain, moron.

Answer 55

You can read as many holy books that you want to read and yet at the end of the day, it is still up to your own interpretation what you chose to believe in in your heart of hearts and in your soul and spirit.



I like to believe that the "light" being spoken about is not physical visually observable phenomenon but that of spiritual light, the abstract ability to realize that we are more than just flesh and blood.

Answer 56

The Bible WAS written by "goatherders". It was inspired by God through the Holy Spirit, and as any writer will tell you, inspiration is not easily understood by others, and often not even the writer. The Holy Spirit takes great spiritual awareness to understand, and what He "says" is often not understood immediately. The Holy Spirit is like the mind of God. God communicates with us through His Spirit/His mind. The ideas in the Bible are explained in a way that the common man can understand. Again, the BIble was NOT "written" by God.

Answer 57

Creation was a singular event. All of the universe was a singular statement, although I do believe the extent of it has been under constant expansion, a continuous act.

Read the text: there is no timeline to Genesis 1: 1 and 2



After that we are given a picture of the earth as being "dark and void" with the Spirit of God "brooding" over the surface of the "waters."



That could mean the earth was covered in water, or it could mean the earth was encased in cloud, or both.

From this point I prefer both, because the following discourse then fits. "Let there be light" could then be the removal of the shroud of cloud surrounding the earth, or simply thinning it to allow the sun to shine on it. In a later passage the land masses are made to show, so it is likely as well that at one point the earth was fully encased in water.



Clarence Larkin was a cartographer, whose grasp of the creation event takes on a few of the more difficult issues people have with the creation story. He made charts and intricate timelines to illuminate the order of creation and a number of its events as they may have unfolded, rather seamlessly, and for that reason I invite you to read his book, "Dispensational Truth or God's Plan and Purpose in the Ages." He also covers a multitude of various other ideas of Biblical doctrines with similar charts and references, all quite enlightening, and for any dispensationalist, essential reading.



You can't take any opinion, even one as well studied as Larkin's is, and assume it to be true. What you should do is consider all possibilities of how it might be true. After all, over 4 billion people on this planet believe a higher power made it all, including us, and this faith is held in spite of any so called "science" that is claimed to prove differently, and many believers have doctorates, and degrees in related fields. My pastor has a degree in zoology, and one of our deacons has a doctorate in paleontology. They believe fervently.



How much study outside of anti faith websites have you done?



In the end analysis, if a person wants to live whatever life they please, a faith in God does not enable them to do that.



If a person is more concerned about being truthfully interested in their own purpose, whether it be their own design, or from outside themselves, as most people believe, then a bit more study is involved, and your conscience will stop urging you to ask questions that so far you have asked with your own tongue planted stiffly into your cheek.

Answer 58

Light is also known as "day". So God did create the stars, but they do not give off much light. He wanted a division of light so he made "day and night". He was also going to create the animals on the fifth "day" (longer period than we consider as day) and they needed much light to soar the skies, land and bodies of water. Genesis 1-2.

Answer 59

Your order is wrong, you switched 1 and 2.



Basically, God created the light....thats the first day....later on, God than creates the stars and sun. So you should be asking, what was day one? since this light was not the sun or stars? But you do not do this.



Obviously though, You do not care since your about looking down on Gods word. Whatever, you have your reward...keep posting.

Answer 60

Light does not have to come from stars.

God said let there be light first then later made 2 great lights.

the first "light" was just that. light, it wasn't a star.



you are reading it as an ignorant goat herder who can't read.

sorry to be so harsh.

Answer 61

Somewhere in between "ignorant goat herder" and "Omniscient Deity" you'll find "Prophet", as in Moses; one who speaks with God and takes down His words. And, if you'll go back to basic English 101, assuming you're educated, you'll find such literary devices as metaphor, creative expression and artistic license. Cut the Bible some slack; there's lots of good in it.

Answer 62

God created the other stars to beautify the night. This was after He created the sun. Science is not real. The physical realm is only a mere replica of the spiritual realm.



People always say not to take the Bible literally, but it is science we can't take literally because God can destroy our lousy science.

Answer 63

God created "Light", the Light God created is not light from the sun or moon, the "Light" that God created was the "Truth" in His WORD.



Light that God created in Genesis 1:3 was the "Truth" in His WORD. God manifested the "Truth" of His Word as "LIGHT", and gave the Power of His WORD to His first created Son, and sent His Son with the Power of His "Truth" to bring "Light" into this physical world.



In Genesis 1:1, God had already created the universe, the earth, the stars (sun & moon) and the first female and male flesh bodies, which have now been named Dinosaurs.



Lucifer who was God's second Son to be created, "Destroyed" those flesh bodies known as Dinosaurs, and the universe, earth, and stars, this is what Genesis 1:2 is telling me.



God cast Lucifer from heaven after he "Destroyed" all that God had created in the very first earth age, which is known in heaven not as an earth age, but as the first seal, more correctly known as "one of the seal", in which the next seal is known as the second seal, which comes after ONE.



Revelation 12:1-5 is speaking about Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2-4 is speaking about Revelation 12:7-13.



Revelation 12:6 is speaking about Genesis 1:6 through 2:3 and the first half of Genesis 2:4, this portion of Genesis is speaking about the second seal and when God Re-created, the universe, the earth, the stars, sun, and moon when God created this female and male to resemble Cavemen and Cavewomen



The second half of Genesis 2-4 through about Gen 4:1 is talking about the Christ, when God gave him the power of His "LIGHT" to MAKE, not the power to Create, but the power to MAKE, and the Christ, who is a Spirit, MADE all that was MADE, and nothing was MADE, that was MADE without the Christ MAKING IT. This is what John 1:1-14, Genesis 1:6 through Genesis 4:1, and Revelation 12:14 is telling me.



The Christ brought the "LIGHT" of God's WORDS into this world through the Prophets, who were chosen before the world was created, as these prophets were called "THE 12 STARS", in Revelation 12:1, and the Spirit of the Christ was the first that was to be begotten into this world by the FEMALE, named the "Woman Clothed with the sun, this Woman was a Female DINOSAUR and her man-child was the Christ.

Answer 64

No, an ignorant goat herder would have more sense than you and better reading abilities. You must be a product of the Public Schools.

Answer 65

Don't look for scientific accuracy in the bible. Its full of laughably naïve errors. Muhammed even says the sun sets in a pond each night.

Answer 66

The writers of the Bible were obviously not scientists ;) but Christians will just say that Genesis is meant to be poetry...which is convenient.

Answer 67

Dude you're trying to apply the physics to the one that created laws of physics. You don't find the irony in that? It's like your computer saying to you, no that's wrong I wasn't programmed that way, therefore you are not real.

Answer 68

I get the sense you are a very ignorant person, perhaps you need to get an education and start with reading and learning how to understand what you read.

Answer 69

The Bible was written in simple terms to make it available to all.

Perhaps in Revelations it is better to say dragons breathing fire rather than draw a Russian fighter jet!!

Answer 70

No you don't.



But we do get the impression that ignorant fools with a hatred of God refuse to understand.

Answer 71

There is always the scientific expression of the creative activities that we have been able to find out about if the religious expressions don't do it for you. But some things your just going to have to figure our for yourself it neither do it for you.

Answer 72

Revelation 21:23 KJV And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Answer 73

We're all here now and our job is to do good in the world. Dr. King said, "We came here in separate ships, but we're all in the same boat now." Backing and forthing about old manuscripts is mostly pointless. Maybe 'God' created the world, maybe not, but right now WE have work to do. WE have to create the light and all the rest of it. 'God' did his part, now it's up to us!

Answer 74

Any place in the universe is dark without God´s speaking light into existance.

Answer 75

No, you just are not understanding what the goat herder is writing, to bad for you. I would suggest you pray for understanding and maybe the one that really did the writing will help you to understand what you are reading.

Answer 76

lol, no of course not



I get the impression God was a 5 year old who scribbled down a bunch of nonsense in stone and some over zealous parent thought it was a masterpiece.

Answer 77

Get this - Dinesh D'Souza in his book "What's So Great About Christianity?" actually wrote "the biblical account of how the universe was created is substantially correct" (page 124)!

Answer 78

What Bible are you reading? Get a kjversion Bible and believe. Here is wisdom:"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."- The Word of God.

then " And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." - the Word of God.

Then. " And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."- The Word of God.

Answer 79

Well, sorry that Galileo wasn't around to specify that the sun was a star

Answer 80

I doubt very much you "understanmd" ANYTHING correctly !!



You don`t even know WHAT you`re talking about , you IDIOT !!



STOP trying to come across as "intelligent" and get your facts straight !!

Answer 81

Does anyone get the impression that this question is being asked by an arrogant fool who thinks he knows something he really has no clue about???

Answer 82

God created the heavens (first) and the earth (later)

His first COMMAND was LIGHT BE in Hebrew. This was the light in all the stars and our sun which is also a star. The ignorant one is you...NOT GOD. Apparently you need to learn to read and comprehend what you read.

Answer 83

Yep

Answer 84

God didn't need the Sun or the moon to give light, he said let there be light (and there was light) before he created the Sun and moon... Because he's God!

Answer 85

the book was written in a non-western different language and a far-different society than ours. they did not think the way we do and they expressed themselves differently. notably, their view o time and space was far different from what ours was until recently. also, reference to the stars was made after reference to light.

Answer 86

That's exactly the case. A very ignorant man wrote this drivel that some try to claim is so divinely wise. I guess apologists will try to excuse the errors in overly-concocted crap.

Answer 87

Genesis is just like the rest of all religious texts, absolute fiction!!.

Answer 88

You aren't understanding the term "as far as it is translated correctly"????

Answer 89

You should just science and then science because without science there'd be no science and science created science so the universe is science

Answer 90

You cna't expect the babble to make any sense. Have you read any other parts of it? You wont be surprised.

Answer 91

Whoever wrote it didn't know the sun was a star. iTS Time People Stop Saying THE BIBLE Was Written By god.

Answer 92

No, you are obviously misinformed; invincibly ignorant at best. Intentionally ignorant in the least. Anyone of any intelligence would be far better informed.....!

Answer 93

The correct context of the Bible is that it was written by men to express their faith. We end up in trouble when we try to interpret it literally.

Answer 94

Clearly you do not.

Clearly, you either did not read it, or you did not remember what you read. (Your chronological order is completely at odds with Genesis.)

Answer 95

God inspired men to write the bible for honest hearted imperfect people to understand.

Answer 96

You are ignorant because befoer ALL CREATION it says



He alone has endless life and lives in inaccessible light

Answer 97

We all interpret things differently don't worry about it.

Answer 98

May God appropriately deal with your arrogance & ignorance in such a way that you know its from Him. Then, may He grant you a truly repentant heart before Him.

Answer 99

That's because they were written by goat molesting goat herders.

Answer 100

do you really believe any of that is literally true?

there is no way that i can.

if your religion's teaching are the stars, then mine is the moon. and, if you teachinging are as numerous as fireflys, mine is the sun.

give it up, and read other religions, already.

Answer 101

No one does. There have been so many changes in the 100's of translations over the years....too many,

and hundreds of versions of the Holy Bible....what?????

Answer 102

you have just demonstrated you are incapable of the most simple of tasks

the first page of the bible is so simple even a child can understand the order of creation

Answer 103

your mistake was trying to make sense of a collection of fairy tales written by an ancient tribe of murderous woman hating savage jew goat herders.....

Answer 104

An acorn is not an oak tree. You lack the ability to think.

Answer 105

Sounds like a goat herder read it.

Answer 106

This is scientifically correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HyYH1eYH1o

And our sun is a specific star.

Next question.

Answer 107

No, you do not. Let us actually read it. Turn with me in your Bibles, if you will, to Genesis Chapter 1.



Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)



1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.



2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.



3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.



4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.



5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.



6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.



7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.



8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.



9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.



10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.



11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.



12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.



14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:



15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.



16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.



17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,



18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.



19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.



20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.



21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.



23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.



24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.



25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.



26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

God creates light in the second verse (photons appear) and the stars in the fourteenth verse. You never actually read Genesis did you?

Answer 108

You have to be a good cherry picker to understand the bible

Answer 109

They were better with Peter Gabriel (ha ha)

Answer 110

You have it out of order:



"Genesis 1:1-27



1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.



3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.



6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.



9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.



11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.



14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.



20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.



24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.



26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”



27 So God created mankind in his own image,

in the image of God he created them;

male and female he created them."





But more importantly, you are also not taking into account the symbolism in the words used and its poetic nature. Also, we know that God is outside of time, and time references used in the Bible are not always to be taken literally. "that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" (2 Pet. 3:8; cf. Ps. 90:4)



Some philosophers have noted that there are discrepancies in the order of things in order to emphasize that all things come from God. Light, in the Bible, also refers to the Word of God and His creation springs forth from His Word. I find it interesting that God calls the light, "good," but says nothing about the darkness.



To reiterate - God is outside of time and the poetry and symbolism all need to be taken into account when reading Genesis.

Answer 111

YES if one goes back far enough

Answer 112

If nothing makes sense for you, then yes, you did

Answer 113

Do you not understand poetry, either?

Answer 114

You just reject the truth. God knows everything & can choose what he wants to reveal.

Answer 115

actually the bible was made by the first priest, although i personally dont believe in how everything was made, i do believe in jesus and gods existence

Answer 116

Man created God in his own image !!!!

Answer 117

no you don't. you are not welcomed in the Christian community anymore

Answer 118

I can't help you!

Answer 119

Jesus’ Day When the Son of God, Jesus Christ, was on earth, he sent out his followers to announce the good news about God’s heavenly government. (Matthew 10:7) In fact, he instructed his disciples in the manner in which they should present this unusual and important message at each home and what steps to take where householders failed to show genuine interest. “When you are entering into the house, greet the household; and if the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you. Wherever anyone does not take you in or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city shake the dust off your feet.”—Matthew 10:12-14. Jesus instructed his disciples to “shake the dust off [their] feet” when they left a home or a town where there was a complete lack of interest in God’s Kingdom. What did he mean by this advice? Shaking the dust off one’s feet indicated a disclaiming of responsibility or accountability for the consequences that a householder would suffer because of lack of interest in God’s message. It implied that Jesus’ followers were peacefully departing and leaving that house or city to the consequences that would eventually come from God.



Show Interest—It Means Your Life! It is of interest to note that Jesus Christ compared the responses of our day to those of the days of Noah and of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Matthew 24:37-39; Luke 17:26-30) Immorality and violence were prevalent both in the days of Noah and in the days of Lot. Indeed, the righteous man Lot was tormented and distressed when observing the lawlessness and the indulgence in loose conduct by the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah.—2 Peter 2:6-8. Yet, when Jesus refers to Noah’s day and to Lot’s day, he focuses our attention, not on the immorality and violence of those times, but, rather, on matters of daily concern—eating, drinking, marrying, being given in marriage, buying, selling, building, and planting. He indicated that many would not respond to the message of the good news of God’s Kingdom but would be preoccupied with the everyday affairs of life and thus show no interest in what God purposes to do. The message is one of life-or-death importance. Failure to listen would be costly. To take no note or show no interest is a serious sin.— Matthew 6:31, 32. Just how serious? Jesus went on to explain: “On the Judgment Day God will show more mercy to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah than to the people of that town” who did not listen or show interest. (Matthew 10:15, ) If a person does show interest, listens, and believes the message, even though he may be immoral and violent, he can change his personality and find favor in Jehovah’s eyes to qualify as a subject of the Kingdom, even as the early Christians in Corinth did.—1 Corinthians 6:9-11. In all his conversations with his disciples, Jesus Christ urged them to listen, to pay attention, to show interest in the important message of the Kingdom of God. To rouse the attention of those to whom he spoke, he admonished: “Pay attention to how you listen.” “Let him that has ears to listen listen.” “Listen to me, all of you, and get the meaning.” “Listen and get the sense of it.”—Luke 8:18; Mark 4:9; 7:14; Matthew 15:10.



Illustrative Use. The Bible at times alludes to the preciousness of pearls in an illustrative way. With reference to the surpassing value of true wisdom, Job said: “A bagful of wisdom is worth more than one full of pearls.” (Job 28:18) In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus Christ counseled: “Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open.” (Mt 7:6) Evidently Jesus meant that, if a person shows that he is like a dog or a swine, with no appreciation for spiritual things, one should not further endeavor to share spiritual thoughts and teachings with him. Such corrupt persons would only trample upon valuable spiritual things and abuse or injure anyone endeavoring to share these with them. This does not mean that Jesus’ disciples are to use no discernment in connection with other people, Jesus’ disciples should leave those people and seek out ears that are more receptive.

Answer 120

Nope, the only ignorant ones here are you atheists.

Answer 121

dd

Answer 122

No, you do not understand the genre.

Answer 123

If I were you I would read it again!

Answer 124

yeah

Answer 125

hahaha

Answer 126

Good luck...

Answer 127

Did you have a NDE?

Answer 128

God had an orgasm then everything was created.

Answer 129

no

Answer 130

When I was at university I converted to Catholicism and at the time I was invited to a lecture that looked into the truth about the bible more deeply.



I have Asperger's and so can take things too literally, which if you take the bible too literally then it becomes hard to comprehend.



There is a lot in the bible that does contradict itself, but it's done in such a way to make it easy for us humans to understand. There is also a lot of things in the bible that is skipped, for example from the birth of Jesus up until the time he was wandering around healing people what happened then? There is no mention of what happened when he was growing up from a child to an adult, all that bit was skipped.



And this is the same with a lot of the bible to take



" The Beginning

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.



And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.



And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.



And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.



Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.



And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day."



This is the beginning bit from Genesis and if you look at Genesis 1:3 God creates light at this point - it doesn't state that he creates the sun, it just states that he creates "a light" so that he has a day and a night to go by.



It's not until Genesis 1:14 (the end paragraph of the above quote) that it states that God creates the stars, along with it two great lights to create a day and night, but at the beginning God had already created day and night - but there was no definition as to how or what this day and night was, it could be that God created a temporary light on the first day and then on the fourth day created the sun along with the stars and planets to make the light permanent.



A lot of what is written is written in a way to make it easier to understand. The other thing you have to also think about is that at the beginning there is references to a "day", in one day God created the heavens and earth - now think about that one - what is our definition of "a day".



a day is the amount of time it takes for this planet to rotate fully around on it's axis so the sun rises and sets which on this planet is 24 hours. However if you were on another planet a day would have a totally different definition. If you went to Pluto a day is 6.4 Earth days, on Jupiter a day is only 10 hours. Time is just a man-made creation to define when something will happen, or the age of something based on our planets current position, and speed of rotation around the sun, so this entire beginning bit of the bible is wrote in such a way to give us some kind of inclination as to what exactly happened, but we already know that it didn't exactly happen like that - at that point human's don't have any way of figuring out strictly how long a day is.



If you look back in history it wasn't until the 3rd century BC that Aristarchus of Samos thought that the earth might possibly be rotating around the sun, and this wasn't fully accepted until the 16th century when Copernicus realised that Galileo was right and that we did rotate around the sun not the other way around (and even recently we've discovered more that the sun itself rotates around it's own axis!)



The proper definition of time certainly wouldn't have been around at the time when God created the earth and for many years we didn't really have any way of measuring time properly - it wasn't until 2000BC that the Egyptians first came up with two obelisks that could define the 12 hour periods based on shadows (an early and slightly cumbersome version of the sundial!) and also water clocks that measured water flowing through ports and then it took till the 14th century for someone to come up with a proper mechanical watch.



So all this talk in the beginning about time is based on our current knowledge of time and our current definitions of time. Plus don't forget the bible wasn't originally wrote in English, it was translated from it's original language (it's originally wrote in Hebrew, Aramiac and Greek), and all three of these translations would have come up with slightly different interpretations when converting it to English, even now translations do have a way of going wrong for example - if I said to you in Dutch "mijn neef is een deel van mijn familie , maar niet mijn gezin" that would make perfect sense in Dutch, but if I translated that to English it wouldn't make any sense due to the different interpretations - that line means "my cousin is part of my family, but not my family", it's because in Dutch you have two words for family - gezin which is your immediate family, and familie which is your extended family, but in English we don't have a definition for both types of family so a direct translation of that sentence doesn't make any sense, and just imagine that's one small sentence - try translating an entire ancient book from three ancient languages into a modern day language.



The original bible probably doesn't even mention time in Genesis, this has probably been added when it was translated to make it easier to comprehend because how do you define a day when a day doesn't even exist, and when it does exist it only exists in that form for people on that specific place that you've created and you haven't even created people at that time either so how do you even know at that point they're going to define time as night and day, we could have defined time as the entire cycle of the moon rather than splitting it up into days, or we might have discovered atoms way earlier and defined time based on the hydrogen atom (like we do now with the atomic clock).



On Voyager there is a golden record - on that record is symbols for anyone or anything that finds it which instructs them how to play the record. On the disc is etched a symbol showing one hydrogen atom going around and the number of times a hydrogen atom will go around which defines how fast the record should be played at. We could have just put please play this record at 33rpm or drew a picture based on our definition of time in relation to our sun, but that would have been useless to an alien life form who might be on a totally different planet that is spinning a lot faster than ours, or slower, but we used the hydrogen atom to define record speed because hydrogen is so abundant throughout the universe and if an alien spacecraft does find it hopefully the scientists on board will be able to decode our definition of time, unless of course they don't have any hydrogen on the planet their on.

Answer 131

no

Answer 132

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