Do you think homosexuals are actively choosing to defy God?

Question

When a person chooses to become homosexual, is he deliberately choosing to defy God in his heart?

(I am an athiest and I support acceptance of homosexuals. This question is for those who believe it is a sin.)

Answer 1

Oh nobody reads supporting text anymore, so I have found. I would think that some think this to be true. I mean if they think the reasoning that teenage girls are promiscuous because they are possessed by demons. Then I would not put it past them to think that us gay boys are also controlled by the Devil himself.

Answer 2

Do you think that people choose to be homosexual or is it something determined at birth? If they did not have a choice in the matter, would that not simply make them a part of God's creation? I am a widowed clergy spouse and I can assure you that most clergy, who I know, do not feel that homosexuals have chosen to live lives of sin. The Bible only has about 11 references to homosexuality and not all of them necessarily condemn it. David was believed by many to have had a homosexual relationship and yet he was considered special to God. The reason that many churches will not perform gay marriage ceremonies is because they are not real sure as to how it is perceived by God. Marriage is a sacrament and churches must be very careful about the things that they are blessing. I belong to a denomination that does not have what I call "communion police". If you have sinned and repent of that sin, you not only CAN take communion but you have a duty to do so. There is no checklist to see if you are worthy of God's grace, that's up to Him.

Answer 3

Well first of all I do not believe homosexuals are unique in any way because they sin, everyone is a sinner.



Second of all that is not to say that homosexuals are somehow unacceptable to me. I cannot think of a way that I reject homosexuals and I cannot imagine how by my acceptance anything is gained. I am just a man after all.



Third the deliberateness of sin has often been a subtle matter for everyone, not just homosexuals. For instance man who is falling in love with a would be mistress, we all know falling in love can be an exciting an wonderful feeling, but as innocent and romantic as it may be, it is still a sin.

Answer 4

Whether a person "chooses" his sexual orientation or not is completely beside the point. We are all of us born with temptation to sin, every one of us. Mine may not be the same as someone else's, but I do assure you, I have been tempted to sin, on many, many occasions, and, if I have to be honest, there have been more than a few times when I have chosen the sin, to my shame, and to my sorrow.

The point is that when I choose to sin, I do, indeed, deliberately choose to defy God in my heart. I know that God commanded me not to do a thing, and I do it anyway, because in my selfishness, that is what I want to do, or God commands me to do a thing, and I do not do it, because in my selfishness, I do not want to do it. That is sin, and in the long run, it generally hurts me as much or more than it does anyone else.



Supporting acceptance of homosexuals is not the problem. God would have us to accept everyone, and in so far as it lies within ourselves to do so, to be at peace with everyone.

Supporting the sin of gay sex is something else entirely.

While I will support someone's right to make their own choices, I will not support their right to force anyone else to endorse that choice.

For instance, let's say my friend is a kleptomaniac. I still love him and accept him for the good that is in him...but I will not tell him that it's OK to steal, nor will I support his efforts to make it legal to shoplift.

I have a friend who swears that some of the "coolest" people he has ever known were a pair of mass murderers he met in prison. I'm sure they were fun to be around...but I wouldn't want them to move into the house across the street...



I am noticing that a great many atheists support acceptance of homosexuality. I am also noticing that a great many atheists seem to be homosexuals, and I am wondering if there is any connection.

Perhaps they don't wish to believe in a God that tells them that their sexuality is a sin...perhaps the point of whether they are defying Him or not by indulging in gay sex is moot, since they have already defied Him by refusing to accept Him.

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EDIT: Thosewerethedays summed it up nicely when he told you that, in his experience of love, God is the furthest thing from his mind.

I don't know about you, but I found that statement to be one of the most ironic I've ever read in this forum.

Answer 5

I'm sure that christians would believe that homosexuals are defying god, but then again christians believe in a book that was written by humans, not god. No one really knows how god would feel about homosexuals. I'm a peaceful person and would like to believe that god would accept all good people, no matter their preference.

Answer 6

Actually, the reason I "choose" to be gay is because I know it absolutely infuriates fundagelicals!



My only wish is that I were a big, loud drag queen (a la Miss Chablis) living in Tupelo, Mississippi and I owned a large gay bar which was directly across the American Family Association headquarters!

Answer 7

I think when a so called Christian claims that being gay is a sin, that God did not create gays, or even better miss interprets bible scripture in Lev. to try and claim their reason for being a bigot, they themselves are choosing to defy God.



Bobert just proved my point.

Answer 8

Where theres where your wrong, people dont choose to be homosexual no matter what the popular belief is, if your homosexual you are born homosexual and it only presents itself with time. I dont believe its a sin, cause im not even sure i believe in god, and yes i am atheist.

Answer 9

Well - if there was a god - only the closeted ones would be defying god. After all, who made them that way? Wouldn't any respectable designer want his products to do what he designed them to do?

Answer 10

Oh, yes, we all wake up in the morning and ask ourselves: "What is the most offensive way we can defy God and assure our eternal damnation? I have it! We'll choose to be gay! That'll show Him!" Give me a break. When you experience love, God is the farthest thing from your mind.

Answer 11

Defy Nature yes

Defy the longivity of Mankind Absolutely

Answer 12

I believe it is sin because the Bible says it is. It doesn't bother me and I don't hate homosexuals. However, I cannot say it is ok. Do they actively choosing to defy God? How do I know, we have to ask them.

Answer 13

"When a person chooses to become homosexual"



What, birth?



I know, not the demographic you wanted. Sorry, sorry. I'm going now. ;)

Answer 14

homosexuals don't choose

"homosexual" isn't a sin and was only a term/word since 1869



The bigots will claim anything and everything and it won't be rational

Answer 15

Yes.



G-d said that the act of homosexuality is forbidden - not the feeling.



It is all right to be attracted to members of the same sex. However, part of being a human as opposed to an animal is that we have the power to control our inclinations and act despite them. Anyone who chooses to act on such inclinations is lowering themselves to the level of animals who are ruled by them.



Remember, you asked for my opinion.

Answer 16

I also support acceptance...

I can see you wish to bash the living hell out of the chistians ands they're beliefs...



Carry On!



Just Kidding, I'm just in the "f*ck organized religion" mood today.

Answer 17

Absolutely because as god is against it he would not make people that way they must be choosing to defy him.



Man how do people believe this sh*t

Answer 18

Glad you agree homosexuality is a choice.



I do not think defying God is one of the top considerations although it may be a consideration in some cases.

Answer 19

YES......God created man as male and female......God gave a woman as man's companion.....when a person chooses to change what God has ordained it is 'rebellion' against God and is a sin against God and him/her-self

Answer 20

Yes. At first they knew homosexual conduct was sin. As they chose to continue to live in sin their heart becomes hard to the voice of God. Eventually they not only think it is right but demand that everyone else says it is good.



Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Answer 21

Maybe. And in doing so, they are helping humans out by being the bravest humans of all.....

Answer 22

No, not all of them. Some of them don't understand what God wants them to do. In their cases, it's ignorance of God's will rather than defiance.

Answer 23

Someone has to.



That God guy is a prick.

Answer 24

I think they choose their life style.

Answer 25

what day did you choose to be straight?

Answer 26

nope just actively choosing to defy logic....

how could anyone say no to jessica alba....



crazy gays



except gay women... they have the right idea...

how could anyone find us men attractive...

Answer 27

No, they can't help it. If they can there probably wont be as many gays.

Answer 28

No...I believe they just want to satisfy themselves.

Answer 29

that's kind of a loaded question, but in a sense, yes they are.

Answer 30

albiet deliberate or by ignorance, yes.

Answer 31

My Answer: NOPE!

Answer 32

everyone in this life has trials...it's possible that be gay is someone's trial...BUT the thing about it is...if you want to live right...you don't have to choose to be gay

Answer 33

I believe homosexuality is a choice........by choosing such behavior, people do defy God -- whether they believe they are doing that or not.....................



God Bless.................