Question:
Do Evolutionists and Big Bang theorists agree with each other on anything?
realchurchhistorian
2007-12-15 10:23:08 UTC
Christians and ID people always give the same answer. Start with God.

I have seen so many conflicting statements by those who reject God today I am beginning to suspect that Evolutionists and Big Bang people do not even know their own theories.

Can you all come to some kind of concensus or something?

The irony is that everytime I post a critical question about Evolution several people tell me I should learn what it is before I talk about it! Have you noticed this?

I bet I know more than 90% of the posters on here about Evolution and I reject the obsolete theory!
Twenty answers:
2007-12-15 10:33:36 UTC
>> Christians and ID people always give the same answer. Start with God.



That's not really an answer.
Diogenes
2007-12-15 11:07:08 UTC
There is no common ground for Evolutionists and Big Bang theorists to agree about. The two topics have nearly nothing to do with each other. The fact you ask this question demonstrates you fail to understand the fundamentals of either discipline. Biologists and Cosmologists are as different as it's possible to be and still be scientists. Please consider that virtually all of the postings about Evolution are originated by Christians and that within science there is no discipline called "evolutionist." This "issue" is a fraud, perpetrated by those who understand evolutionary principles the least -- namely, Christians who are eager to defend Biblical creation.



Look at it this way. If I had your undivided attention, eight hours a day for four years, I might be able to teach you just enough physics and electronics so that you could almost understand how your television works. It would be a long and difficult process, with lots of mathematics and strange concepts which allow us to think about difficult topics. I know you know that televisions actually do work. I also know that you must admit that television engineers know a lot more about how TV's work than you do. (I'm assuming you're not a TV engineer.) So, you accept that TV's actually work and that you really don't understand exactly how and why.



Now, what makes you think you know Jack Crap about evolution? What makes you imagine you know diddley squat about Big Bang theory? The truth is you are so ignorant of the fundamentals of both biology and cosmology that the only thing you know for sure is that you disagree -- before you've even bothered to learn the fundamental principles involved. Your Bible tells you one thing and you can't even be bothered to learn the factual truth. That is precisely why, given two thousand years, organized religion has utterly failed to provide either technological progress or ethical and moral stability for human civilization. Face it, Christian -- your ilk has already had their chance and has failed spectacularly. Humanity has finally discovered science, which makes it possible for us to discover the physical truth for ourselves. We have no need of ignorant Christian superstitions within modern scientific Western Civilization.
ragoonanan
2016-10-11 12:35:13 UTC
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2007-12-15 10:31:38 UTC
Indeed, there are some who reject creationism over evolution, yet they do not fully understand evolution. I admit it, I do not fully understand evolution, either. I'm sure I've made some incorrect statements regarding evolution in my time. I am not a scientist. However, that does not make evolution invalid.



I do understand how the scientific method works, though, and that is why I put my faith in science.
meissen97
2007-12-15 10:27:15 UTC
Might I request honestly from you? You claim evolution and the big bang are related. We know they are not. You also claim abiogensis and evolution are related when they are not.



Don't lie to people.



Edit: You are a liar, that is a fact. I have looked at all your questions over the months I have been here. You continually attempt to engage in propaganda wars and discredit evolution using deceit and lies. You make unsubstantiated claims for example "evolution is an obsolete theory." You did it on several questions you just asked.



https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20071215095946AAQWA3p



You claim the Christian community rejects evolution when Catholics are Christian and the Pope accepted it long ago.



More to come.





Edit again: So after rereading this all you wanted was someone to admit they didn't know everything? That is why I call you a liar. You used deceit and that was all you were looking for.
TimeWastersInc
2007-12-15 11:20:15 UTC
its actually the big suck theory. The universe is now expanding because it at one time was shrinking. fianlly it became so compacted that it imploded. Like a gargantuant super nova scattering shreds of all it can sucked into it as a black hole. All those are is massive graviton fields that compress matter. for instance.. should you fall into one.. you mass would become so small (and dead) that no microscope could see you. What I know about all this would stun and amaze you brother.
Gyspy
2007-12-15 10:32:43 UTC
Evolution is a law of nature... just like gravity is a law of nature... the human race is just beginning to learn of what evolution is ... it's unreasonable to expect when people are just learning to understand the whole effects of something... when it comes to the big bang, I reject the big bang theory for it doesn't conincide with the laws of evolution.... I think people feel under pressure to come up with an answer facing a bunch of liars claiming to know the anwers all the time like the christians do....
Super Atheist
2007-12-15 10:30:58 UTC
The Big Bang is part of Cosmology/Cosmogony.



Evolution is part of Biology.



Just because you use Goddidit as the answer in both cases doesn't mean that they're part of the same discipline.



Further, evolution is a proven fact, with no sensible arguments. The Big Bang itself is pretty conclusive, but the events surrounding it are still subject to speculation and experiment.



If you want a single, immutable answer, and you don't care that it's wrong, go ahead and stick to your magic wizard.



CD
2007-12-15 10:30:03 UTC
in the real world (not in this open forum) you can not get one single scientist to debate both evolution and the big bang at the sane time. as they claim that they are not in any way on the same subject.



to everyone who thinks that evolution is a proven fact, i would like to see the millions of fossils that are suppose to represent the millions of mutations that prove one species evolved into another.
Alex S
2007-12-15 10:42:31 UTC
Why should they? One is Physics the other is Biology.

There's absolutely no link between the two fields. One

theory could be valid/invalid without even remotely

touching the validity of the other.
2007-12-15 10:45:41 UTC
What do they have to agree on? Other than "process" opposed to "creation, period"? Oh, i know of one more point of agreement between evolution and Big Bang. Science.
2007-12-15 10:30:49 UTC
It's possible they could fit together.

God creating the universe - could just be the Big Bang. And when it says in the Bible God created everything in 6 days, it could have been a period of thousands of years, beause days are not always necessarily 24 hours. But who knows.
2007-12-15 10:43:41 UTC
Could you please give me an example of conflicting statements between the Big bang theory and the theory of evolution
Buke
2007-12-15 10:33:12 UTC
If you want to know about the sciences then you should go ask in the sciences section. This is religion here.



When you return from the sciences section maybe you can speak to us about the importance of humility, because those kids over there will humiliate you quite completely.
† PRAY †
2007-12-15 10:26:54 UTC
well they are supposed to believe the same but on here you will get many different answers from them to the same question and it leads you to believe that they really don't know what they are talking about and only a few of them have really tried to study it out..

I can't believe the answers you are getting to this question as to what these people really believe.. Every one is different and contradicts the other one's theory.
2007-12-15 10:26:22 UTC
Most people add their own assumptions to the theories.
2007-12-15 10:26:42 UTC
Yes. I am both, and I know several other people who are both, and we all agree you are a tiresome trolling fool. Happy Christmas! Oh, and please tell me of your theory which makes evolution obsolete? It isn't intelligent design, for one thing.
synopsis
2007-12-15 10:27:20 UTC
"I bet I know more than 90% of the posters on here about ..."



it is a near-universal principle that the less a person know the more they think they do.
2007-12-15 10:30:49 UTC
From what you post, the only thing you know about evolution is what your preacher told you.
ǝɔnɐs ǝɯosǝʍɐ Lazarus'd- DEI
2007-12-15 10:27:24 UTC
Ok, I'd like to see your "unbiased" explanation of the "obsolete" theory.


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