Question:
Someone asked me if I wanted to know what God says about abortion today. I said no. But on second thought...?
2009-03-13 21:27:09 UTC
...what does God say about abortion?
Eighteen answers:
2009-03-13 21:42:14 UTC
Well, at least half of all pregnancies end in spontaneous abortion - otherwise known as miscarriage. He must not be completely against it.
2009-03-16 10:13:12 UTC
Unless god is talking to someone today, he's saying nothing about abortion. Historical records (that haven't been confirmed) show that god hasn't said anything for thousands of years. Some of those records are statements from the people who allegedly god was talking to and not one of them was able to provide concrete evidence or a witness.



The bible doesn't mention abortion at all. Religious people usually take bits and pieces and make their own interpretation. Very convenient.

What they always omit is Jesus clearly saying that your sins are your business and that other people's sins are not. This is not interpretation.



People must be free to make the choices for their lives and be responsible for them.

It's not about encouraging abortion or supporting abortion or enforcing abortion. Each person has to take that decision and live with that.



(By the way, I'm not religious)
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2009-03-13 21:40:23 UTC
Of course I will get a bunch of thumbs down from the fundies but the bible is actually pretty clear about whether or not a fetus is considered a real person.



Job 10:18-19

"Why did you bring me out from the womb?

Would that I had died before any eye had seen me

and were as though I had not been,

carried from the womb to the grave.



...to be carried from the womb to the grave is to have never existed. These words were written by Job who God said at both the beginning and at the end of the book was the most righteous man on earth and that the things Job said were right. I'll take Job's word with God's referral over the fundies any day of the week.
Daver
2009-03-14 17:41:04 UTC
The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches:



2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:



You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.



God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.



2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae," "by the very commission of the offense," and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law. The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.



2322 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), gravely contrary to the moral law. The Church imposes the canonical penalty of excommunication for this crime against human life.



2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.



Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, "if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human fetus and is directed toward its safe guarding or healing as an individual. . . . It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence."
2009-03-14 01:06:02 UTC
Romans 13: 1-7



“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.



This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”



Clearly it is the job of Christians to obey the laws, and the laws of this country clearly state that abortion is legal. So too should Christians respect and honor that law. God commands them to NOT disobey, which entails attempting to get the law overturned. If god wanted abortion to be illegal he wouldn’t have appointed authorities to make it legal.(this is from the link)

Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not considered a human life.(from second link)





Based on the two links them christians who claims it's murder are wrong and so is any christian who doesn't support abortion as they are not obeying God
Fiery Sunset! ☺☻♫☼♥♪
2009-03-13 21:36:01 UTC
Would a god force a woman to go through the most physical pain of her life only to have that life possibly ruined?
A B
2009-03-13 21:32:13 UTC
Abortion is never specifically mentioned in the Bible. However, it is mentioned that life starts at the first breath. So exiting the birth canal is when life starts.
2009-03-13 21:34:38 UTC
Seriously, using the search function won't kill you. This question was just asked a few minutes ago.



https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20090313211816AAqpWDu&show=7#profile-info-8Ff80pV5aa



The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However, there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He knits us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty of someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as the penalty for someone who commits murder. This clearly indicates that God considers a baby in the womb as just as much of a human being as a full-grown adult. For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman’s right to choose. It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).



The first argument that always arises against the Christian stance on abortion is, “What about cases of rape and/or incest?” As horrible as it would be to become pregnant as a result of rape and/or incest, does that make the murder of a baby the answer? Two wrongs do not make a right. The child who is a result of rape/incest could be given up for adoption to a loving family unable to have children on their own – or the child could be raised by its mother. Again, the baby should not be punished for the evil acts of its father.



The second argument that usually arises against the Christian stance on abortion is, “What about when the life of the mother is at risk?” Honestly, this is the most difficult question to answer on the issue of abortion. First, let’s remember that this situation is the reason behind less than one-tenth of one percent of the abortions done in the world today. Far more women have an abortion for convenience than women who have an abortion to save their own lives. Second, let’s remember that God is a God of miracles. He can preserve the life of a mother and a child despite all the medical odds being against it. Ultimately, though, this question can only be decided between a husband, wife, and God. Any couple facing this extremely difficult situation should pray to the Lord for wisdom (James 1:5) as to what He would have them to do.



Over 95% of the abortions performed in the world today are with women who simply do not want to have a baby. Less than 5% of abortions in the world today are for the reasons of rape, incest, or the mother's health at risk. Even in the more difficult 5% of instances (rape, incest, life of mother at risk), abortion should never be the first option. The life of a human being in the womb is worth every effort to allow a full-term birthing process.



For those who have had an abortion, it should be remembered that the sin of abortion is no less forgivable than any other sin. Through faith in Christ, any and all sins can be forgiven (John 3:16; Romans 8:1; Colossians 1:14). A woman who has had an abortion, or a man who has encouraged an abortion, or even a doctor who has performed one can all be forgiven by faith in Jesus Christ.
2009-03-13 21:33:53 UTC
I don't know- but anyone who claims to know what a god has to say about anything should not be trusted.
Loosey™
2009-03-13 23:38:54 UTC
He sez be fruitful and multiply so I can roast some more souls in hell for eternity.
2009-03-13 21:36:17 UTC
abortion is wrong. The Lord has said, "You shall not murder," (Exodus 20:13). The life that is growing within the mother is a child, a baby. The Bible looks at the life in the womb as a child.: Exodus 21:22 says, "And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide," (NASB).1



The main concern of the "Pro-Choicers" is not the guarded protection of the life in the womb. Instead, the main concern is the "rights" of the mother over and against the rights of the child growing in her. The child, who cannot exercise its own will, is killed. And, in order to make the killing more palatable, the baby is called a "fetus", or "non-viable", or "not yet human", etc. This eases the conscience. But, for those who say the baby isn't 'viable', have you ever seen a sonogram of an abortion? You can see the 'non-viable fetus' retracting from the instruments of death and seeking self preservation. It wants to live. Some would respond by saying that even a rodent wants to live. But what is in the womb of the mother is human.



The Bible says for people to protect the weak and down trodden. But with abortionists, the rights of the baby are sacrificed to the rights of the mother -- and the father doesn't even have any rights. The mother cries out that the life in here is part of her body and that she has the right to do with her body as she wills.



True love does not seeks its own, but is other centered. It gives. "For God so loved the world he GAVE his only begotten son..." (John 3:16). Abortion is the ultimate in selfishness. It puts the mother's convenience and desires above the life of her own baby. To kill the baby in the womb means to consider oneself more important than anyone else.



Even in nature, as far as I understand, animals don't kill what is in their own wombs. People are the only ones who kill their young while still unborn. In this society of "self esteem," "personal accomplishments," and "empowerment," true love is losing out and death is winning.



However, there is hope in Jesus. If you've had an abortion, you can be forgiven by the Lord. All you need to do is confess it to the Lord Jesus and ask Him to forgive you. That is what I did years ago when the girl I lived with became pregnant and had an abortion. I was guilty. As a man, the inner turmoil and guilt I felt was horrible. I can't imagine what it would be life for a woman. Nevertheless, the Lord has graciously forgiven me and her. I say this only in the hopes that others would come to find the sweet forgiveness found in Jesus.



Nevertheless, the unbeliever is not convicted by the words of God. So, I've presented what I consider a logical argument against abortion.



A rational Case against Abortion

What is growing in the womb of the woman is alive.

Even one celled creatures are alive.

What is growing in the woman is more than a one celled creature.

The nature of the life is human.

It is the product of human DNA, therefore it's nature is human.

Because it is human in nature, if left to live, it will result in a human baby.

Humans are humans not because they have a feet, hands, walk vertically, and speak, etc. They are humans because of their nature.

A person born without arms and legs is still human.

A person who cannot speak is still human.

A person in a coma, helpless, unaware, unmoving, is human.

What is growing in the womb does not have the nature of an animal, a bird, or a fish. It has human nature.

To abort the life, which is human in nature, is to kill that which is human in nature.

Therefore, abortion is killing a life which is human by nature.

Where, then, does the mother get the right to kill the human within her.

Objections Answered

The life in the womb is not human because it is not fully developed.

This disregards the fact that the nature of the life is human. It has human DNA and is alive. How can its nature not be human if it is alive and has human DNA?

This asserts a false premise that someone is not human until he/she is fully developed.

What constitutes full development? One hour before birth or one hour after? Is there really a difference?

Then when did the natures change? When did the non-human nature develop into a human nature?

At what point does it become human and by what criteria do you make this judgment?

If you cannot decide when, then you are risking killing a person.

The human tissue produced in the woman is the property of the one who produces it.

But if what is growing in the womb is a person, it cannot be owned.

Is the life in the womb property like a cat or a dog that can be owned?

Then when does the child become stop being the property of the mother? At birth? At one year old? Two? Ten? Twenty?

It is animals who are owned, not people -- unless you want to reintroduce slavery.

If If the tissue is not human, but just an organ like the stomach, it belongs to the one in whom it dwells.

But, the stomach is meant to be a stomach. The life in the womb is meant to be a person. They are different by design and nature.

They are different in nature, because the stomach does not have the ability to become a human.

But a human has the ability to produce a stomach.

Therefore, being human encompasses its own body but is not defined by it.

The life in the womb is really part of the woman and the woman has the right to do as she wills with her body.

If it is part of the woman then does the woman has four arms, four legs, and 2 heads? Is that what a human is?

It is part of the woman only in the sense that the life is living and growing inside the mother.

Her body is feeding the life. Her body is separate from the life.

The life growing in the womb can even have a different blood type than the mother. It is, therefore, an independent life with human DNA.

Not so. The Law says the woman (and man) do not have the right to take illegal drugs into their bodies.

The reason is that it supports illegal drug trafficking and...

It harms others who the user seeks to support his/her habit as well as the harm that can come to another because of the actions of the one under the influence of drugs.

In abortion, no one is hurt since the fetus is not a person.

This is simply begging the question. You assume it isn't human, even though it is alive and has human DNA, and then pass judgment that it is not a person.

The fetus is alive and death injures it.

The fetus has the nature of a human and is injured by killing it by scraping, ripping, and/or sucking its brains out as late term abortions are sometimes done.

Then that means the mother has no feelings about the life that has been removed from her womb, that wonderful place that only a woman in her nature has.

Does this really leave the woman uninjured? Countless women are psychologically harmed when they kill the child in their womb.

Rape is a condition that justifies abortion.

Rape is horrible. But why should the child pay for the sins (wrong doing) of another? The baby is innocent of the offense and his life need not be taken because of the act of another.

If what is in the womb is human, then killing it because of the act of another would be wrong.

To restrict a woman's right to choose is to deny her rights as a woman.

This is a self-centered reason. It ignores:

That the life in the womb is human in nature.

That the woman has a responsibility to protect and guard life.

That it puts the woman's personal interests and comfort above the value of life of the baby.

That it is not denying a woman's rights anymore than she does not have the right to murder, steal, or lie.

Rights come with responsibilities. Choosing to kill another is a great responsibility that needs to be taken seriously. This is why we have trials.

However, in the womb, no trial is necessary, just the desire of the mother.

There are too many people in the world.

Since when does the value of human life depend upon how many people there are? Besides, if the number of people is the issue, maybe they should start getting rid of the sick and old. Maybe they should get rid of those who aren't intelligent or good looking. Where will it stop?

A question for those who believe in abortion and that the life in the womb is not human. Is it okay, to take a fertilized egg between a man and a woman and place it in the womb of a dog?

If you say no, then why? If it is not human then it doesn't matter, right?

If you say no because it will become a human then you admit that it has human nature and is alive. If it is human in nature and alive, then you do not have the right to abort it.

If you say it is alright, why is okay?
2009-03-13 21:31:39 UTC
For some reason he has neglected to tell me. I wonder why.
vondahl
2009-03-13 21:31:34 UTC
I think he says if you cut a baby out of your stomach, he'll cut you out of his heart.



That's the word on the street these days, at least.
PaulCyp
2009-03-13 21:35:35 UTC
He says THOU SHALT NOT KILL. He doesn't specify the ages of the human beings who will be the victims. Therefore we must assume He is speaking of ALL human beings.
Seeno†es™
2009-03-13 21:37:24 UTC
It is murder. The blood of your child will be on your hands.
2009-03-13 21:31:29 UTC
Yer pretty bored are ya?

Me too..
2009-03-14 15:04:14 UTC
SFA.

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2009-03-13 21:40:31 UTC
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