Question:
Christians what about the The God Morality Dilemma!?
portgirl
2010-11-13 23:23:12 UTC
Here is The God Morality Dilemma!
1. Does your morality come from God or the bible? Also you may asking where does their their morality come from but be prepared for a long, long answer that ends up as god or bible
Either answer works

1a. Do you believe in the 10 commandments?
This answer only shows if they rationally know that the new testament is part of the old testament

2. Can God Change his mind or rules for us to follow at any time, either now or in the future?
The only answer to this can be yes!

3. Do you believe your Gods word absolute?
The only answer they can give if they believe is "Yes"

4. Hypothetically if god ordered you to kill your own child, would you?

Just some quick evidence to show god can, would and will in the future order you to murder your family
Killing Bothers, Family and Friends Exodus 32:26-29
Mother and Father ordered to murder offspring Zechariah 13:3
love god more than family Matthew 10:37
Kill Sons of Sinners Isaiah 14:21
Kill Homosexuals Leviticus 20:13
http://www.mypaac.org/

and

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrRr1024?feature=mhum

So, I honestly want to know what Christians think about the God Dilemma when faced with the reality that god has in the past and can in the future ask you to murder in his name.
Seven answers:
rr1024
2010-11-13 23:24:37 UTC
Have you found Atheism YET?

Atheism is Love for all people, all sexualities!



Let LOVE fill your heart and mind by allowing the Atheist Love to pulsate through your body. With Atheist Love you will be able to shed the hate, oppression and tyranny of God and Religion.



Here is The God Morality Dilemma!

1. Does your morality come from God or the bible? Also you may asking where does their their morality come from but be prepared for a long, long answer that ends up as god or bible

Either answer works



1a. Do you believe in the 10 commandments?

This answer only shows if they rationally know that the new testament is part of the old testament



2. Can God Change his mind or rules for us to follow at any time, either now or in the future?

The only answer to this can be yes!



3. Do you believe your Gods word absolute?

The only answer they can give if they believe is "Yes"



4. Hypothetically if god ordered you to kill your own child, would you?



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The God does not exist Hypothesis's

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Hypothesis: Does your God Exist?



Data Collection and Test:



This test will show either the gods/devils are not as powerful as claimed or they do not exist at all, in either case they do not deserve anyones worship.



Here is a simple god/devil test

1. God you will post on every Forum, Blog, FAQ and Yahoo Answers Category on the internet in exactly 30 seconds (GMT) after this post has been made. You will post world wide and your post will state the following:



"I am god, I exist"



A) In every Forum, Blog, FAQ and Yahoo Answers Category must have the same exact time stamp based on human time GMT.



2. Mr. Devil you will post on every Forum, Blog, FAQ and Yahoo Answers Category on the internet in exactly 30 seconds (GMT) after this post has been made. You will post world wide and your post will state the following:



"I am devil, I exist"



A) In every Forum, Blog, FAQ and Yahoo Answers Category must have the same exact time stamp based on human time GMT.



This simple test shows the devil does not exist and god does not exist. Furthermore, there is nothing that states we can not test the devil or god for that mater.



The bible only states its believers do not test god.



On the other hand there is nothing written anywhere that states we should not or can not test the devil so we tested both for completeness.



Note that since god and devil are two dependent deities, if we show one does not exist then the other does not exist.



Theory God does not exist

**We have shown that gods of any kind do not exit exists

**There is no god and there is no devil ;-)



Now happier times are a head for all people
J
2010-11-14 07:37:42 UTC
I note that the only one quote you had from the New Testament is : 'love god more than family' Matthew 10:37. That is a good advise. Even though we love our family, they are not perfect. But God is perfect and God is Love. We really should love God more than our family.



All the others were from the Old Testament. Note the name, 'OLD'.



Nobody cares about the Old Testament. Even Jews don't follow Moses. Do you understand? . Why should Christians care about OT when we have the New Testament which is far, far better?? Do you get it??
Jim
2010-11-14 07:43:58 UTC
My morality doesn't come from God. God does not create morals.



Morals are human social constructs, beliefs in "right and wrong." They are social constructs created by a society in order to maintain cohesion and avoid chaos - they amount to the collective social wisodm of a human society. It is a great misunderstanding of God and a great disservice to God, to confuse morality with God. God has nothing to say about how we live our lives or our sexual preferences. To me, God is unconcerned with those things. God is impersonal in this respect.



Now, there are ways to live and ways to die, ways for a society to stay in one piece and other ways for a society to DECAY and fall apart. Whole civilizations rest in the dust of humanity because they failed to recognize the changes which lead to social decay. We have whole examples of empires and why they fell, but most of it had to do with social decay, anarchy, the loss of social cohesiveness - which leads to easy targets during war and a weakened economy which can lead to the failure of a social structure.



1a. Do you believe in the 10 commandments?



In view of the fact that there are ways of living which are healthier and more just than other ways, yes, I believe in the 10 Commitments (ahhh! I changed it!). Think about what I said, they are Commitments, NOT Commandments. In fact, calling them a set of commitments IS WHAT A COVENANT IS! A covenant is a promise - a bond. They only became known as commandments because if you read the OT, you will see, what a hard necked bunch the Israelites were - they had to be threatened in order to comply - so instead of calling them Commitments as God called them, Moses had to change them to Commandments so they would LISTEN! Its not all that got changed by the way!



2. Can God Change his mind or rules for us to follow at any time, either now or in the future?

Of course God can change His/Her opinion. There isn't anyhthing YOU can do that God cannot, and that includes opinions. Opinions often require re-assessments do they not? We have to revisit with the facts and adjust our conclusions based upon facts. God is evolving, whether or not you want to believe it and that means, God is changing. There is BOTH an Unchanging nature of God and a Changing nature of God. The unchanging nature of God is the Absolute Nature - these are things about God that will never change, that remain constant throughout all eternity. THere is another part of God that is changing, for you see, there is nothing which is seperate from God - if Change is the nature of life and the universe, then this reflects the dualistic nature of God as Changing. Thus, God is the Changless Changer...on the one hand, unchanging, constant and eternal, on the other hand, changing. The universe reflects the underlying nature of God's basic nature - God you see, IS THE PROCESS of life and life, is ever changing yet ever constant - it is BOTH.



3. Do you believe your Gods word absolute?

I just answered this. God is BOTH absolute and relative. God is all of everything that is, both the changeless and the changing.



4. Hypothetically if god ordered you to kill your own child, would you?



No, because such an order would not come from God...NOT EVER! And that makes me wonder about the OT deal with Abraham and Issac and the nonsense of sacrificing Issac on an altar. If it wasn't God, then it had to be Abraham, who was just a little senile at the time. Note, God put a stop to it tho.



Whenever you hear a voice saying "Kill," it is NOT the Voice of God!
jrrose
2010-11-14 07:26:57 UTC
They will somehow try to reconcile it in their minds that it's ok for gawd to kill or order the death of its own creation.



Rather morbid of them if you ask me.
anonymous
2010-11-14 07:38:32 UTC
There's no dilemma, that's what about it. When people disagree with God, they're wrong.
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2010-11-14 07:27:11 UTC
no, us atheists are the immoral ones because without a god, you go around killing people!



i havent killed anyone yet, but when i do, ill tell you.
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2010-11-14 07:24:47 UTC
Nothing you say can make me doubt my Faith so you might as well stop trying.


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